Looking forward to being permajammed by a troll ibis!

Just out of curiosity, what would everyone who doesn't want the Ibis to receive an ECM role bonus suggest that it gets to introduce Caldari players into electronic warfare?

On a separate note. Was there any discussion about logistics bonuses? In some respects the rookie ships are already looking to be "get your feet wet in everything"/JoaT style ships so seeing an energy transfer bonus on the impairor, shield transfer bonus on the ibis, remote armor repair bonus on the velator, and tracking link bonus on the reaper might not be too out of place in the grand scheme of things. Nothing major, just say a 25% reduction in capacitor consumption of the first three modules and a 7.5% boost to the effectiveness of tracking links. The bonus arrangement would, to a degree, mimic the setup of the T1 "logistics" cruisers while not actually competing with them.

To be fully clear, all the bonuses on these ships do not scale with level, they are fixed. We'll look at changing the text in the ship info to make that more clear in a later release as it's obviously been a source of confusion.

A few more tweaks:

IMPAIROR:
-0.8 Inertia (agility buff)
-2km lock range
-2 signature radius

IBIS:
-0.65 Inertia (agility buff)
-2km lock range
-2 signature radius

VELATOR:
-1.13 Inertia (agility buff)
-1.5km lock range
-2 signature radius

REAPER:
-0.8 Inertia (agility buff)
-0.5km lock range
-2 signature radius

these buffs are far too small to be of any real effect you need to go further with these changes and also improve the ships in general including at least more mid slots

players over a week old.

We're not trying to have the real effect you're looking for here, sorry.

Goals are for them to be fun for very new players to fly, give new players a look at the combat philosophy of their chosen race, and be useful until they decide to upgrade to a tech one frigate.

I'm also looking forward to comedy fleets and gank nights using these new frigs but flying a rookie frigate should never be a strictly better option than a tech one frigate for players over a week old.[quote]

I understand just disappointed as i thought all ships were going to be useful no matter how old our char is.
These are essentially the tier1 of frigs like the attack frigs are on TQ atm at the very least half the size of their ridiculous sig radius.

I understand just disappointed as i thought all ships were going to be useful no matter how old our char is.
These are essentially the tier1 of frigs like the attack frigs are on TQ atm at the very least half the size of their ridiculous sig radius.

Yeah the rookie frigs have to be an exception to that rule since they are spawned out of nothingness instead of being part of the player economy. We don't want them supplanting anything manufactured by players. Rookie frigs are essentially a separate ship class from other frigates rather than a different tier.

We have a ton of cool stuff coming for the manufactured tech one frigates though.

in what way is ecm broken do you know what you are talking about how many ecm ships have you used?

We have a ton of cool stuff coming for the manufactured tech one frigates though.

All of them, including the pre-nerf 200km range ROFLFALCON. So kindly shut the **** up, kid.

Overall the numbers look good though, minus that ECM bonus.


DO WANT.

Hideously overpowered in small gangs and extremely poorly implemented from a game mechanics point of view.

My corp are already coming up with ways to abuse the new Ibis for no purpose other than flat out trolling. This bonus is a huge mistake.

The 30% ECM bonus vs 10% Damp bonus makes me a sad panda.