about noob frigs...

I live in 0.0 in a remote station and I have other ships in my hangar, so if I dock up CCP will never give me a noob ship, I have to travel to a nearby station were I have no ships to get one.

Can CCP put a "give one noob ship" button in each station?

to avoid abuse and accumulation, just give one if there is none in your inventory.

Also can you give us other racial noob ships if we have trained other frig racials, making our choice what frig we want to get?

Thanks

That's already possible at your own station... you simply have to make a contract with all your ships to yourself... and not accept the contract, your hangar is now empty, simply undock and redock, free rookieship is now in your hangar

A few tweaks:

IMPAIROR:
+4 PWG, -5 CPU, +5 Cargohold

IBIS:
+2 PWG, +10 CPU, -5 Cargohold

VELATOR:
+3 PWG, -5 Cargohold

REAPER:
+1 PWG, +5 CPU

We're also dropping one launcher from the Imp and Vel. There are potential future plans to expand missile options for Gallente and Amarr but those who brought up the lack of direction given to new players by even hardpoints make an excellent point.

How about rookie frigate bpos that are like the shuttles? uses trit only.

Okay after looking at the ships again i realise that the cap on these are very low, and with low skills this could make level missions pretty hard when your damage isnt high enough to remove ships quick, from what I could calculate a Impairor would properly only be able to run its armor repper 5-6 times before being capped out which is about 30-36 sec combat, if this is enough fine. if not consider bumping up cap.

Okay after looking at the ships again i realise that the cap on these are very low, and with low skills this could make level missions pretty hard when your damage isnt high enough to remove ships quick, from what I could calculate a Impairor would properly only be able to run its armor repper 5-6 times before being capped out which is about 30-36 sec combat, if this is enough fine. if not consider bumping up cap.

IBIS:

Role bonuses:
20% bonus to Small Hybrid Turret optimal range
10% bonus to missile kinetic damage
30% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength
10% bonus to shield resistances

No.

Seriously, 30% ECM strength?

GRIFFIN : 15% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength and 10% bonus to ECM Target Jammers' capacitor need per level.

So L5 frigate gives you 150% jam strength? So an IBIS can almost perma jam a rifter with a racial jammer and outperforms a GRIFFIN??

Look, ECM is already an issue, we don't need swarms of ECM IBIS' out there. These frigates should be viable as nooby training and most nooby training is going to happen against NPC ships not as ECM platforms use in PVP.

I think the whole EWAR element of these should be totally turned away. A noob doesn't need EWAR to learn to play the game with 2 mid slots.

Low cap but very fast cap regen.

No.

Seriously, 30% ECM strength?

GRIFFIN : 15% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength and 10% bonus to ECM Target Jammers' capacitor need per level.

So L5 frigate gives you 150% jam strength? So an IBIS can almost perma jam a rifter with a racial jammer and outperforms a GRIFFIN??

Look, ECM is already an issue, we don't need swarms of ECM IBIS' out there. These frigates should be viable as nooby training and most nooby training is going to happen against NPC ships not as ECM platforms use in PVP.

I think the whole EWAR element of these should be totally turned away. A noob doesn't need EWAR to learn to play the game with 2 mid slots.

oh, serious suggestion!

ok, one goal you could have for these noob ships could be a way for newer players to check out every faction type ship in the game when just starting out. Give 1 of each of them to new players. just for fun.

THEN, make civilian versions of each weapon type. Kinda like dust is >.> <.< which i hear at fanfest *no break NDA*

Right now there is no civ autoconnon, or civ atries. I think giving people some more civ options would be great change at some point. Help players pick which race path to move down. IT's confusing honestly to start and there is no ammo. So do that to, make the cheap almost free gear use civ ammo.

Right now players moving up to real turrets sometimes gets confused by ammo. can't blame them.

CCP Fozzie here is an important question for you are the ewar bonus's merely for show or do you want them to be useful in pvp?

mm... well with 2 slots it will be hard for anyone to use the ewar at all along with their chronic lack of ehp and rather large sig for a tiny ship

If anything I would like to phase out as many civilian modules as possible and just get new players the skillbooks to use tech one right away.

The tutorial actually gives you a normal tech one turret nowadays and teaches you about ammo. The only source of civilian guns is when you unpackage a rookie ship. If anything I would like to phase out as many civilian modules as possible and just get new players the skillbooks to use tech one right away.



Primary purpose is for show, but I'm really interested to see if people find fun ways to use them in pvp. I think some of the community confusion I'm seeing (mostly on other forums) stems from people incorrectly thinking those bonuses are per level.

These frigates should be capable of running level 1 missions and career agents, but we don't want them to be good enough that players keep using them as primary ships more than a few days into the game. Hence the role bonuses instead of per-level bonuses.

http://ghunt.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12752587

You DO realize that we already abuse the noobships? Now you are just encouraging us to embarrass people :)

What do you mean, 'newest'?

Anyway, this is going to be hilarious. But for the love of god get rid of the launcher hardpoints on the velator and impairor, giving amarr and gallente newbies launcher options is just going to confuse them into thinking they need to train missiles for their racial ships and you just end up with a lot of confused newbies wasting training time on missile skills. (For that matter the same can be said about the non-Caldari missile frigs, since 'damaging things with missiles' isn't a significantly different role to 'damaging things with guns' and it has the same side effect of encouraging poor training decisions amongst players who can't be expected to know any better.)

No.

Seriously, 30% ECM strength?

GRIFFIN : 15% bonus to ECM Target Jammer strength and 10% bonus to ECM Target Jammers' capacitor need per level.

So L5 frigate gives you 150% jam strength? So an IBIS can almost perma jam a rifter with a racial jammer and outperforms a GRIFFIN??

Look, ECM is already an issue, we don't need swarms of ECM IBIS' out there. These frigates should be viable as nooby training and most nooby training is going to happen against NPC ships not as ECM platforms use in PVP.

I think the whole EWAR element of these should be totally turned away. A noob doesn't need EWAR to learn to play the game with 2 mid slots.