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Mr M
1st Republic Army
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Posted - 2010.08.03 05:55:00 -
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I better put this back on
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Serotta Ortot
Gladiators of Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Optical Illusion I hope to be able to walk around stations holding hands. Space gets lonely.
Putting the "sensual" back in to non-consensual?  
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.08.03 06:54:00 -
[63]
SurpriseSEX!!!
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Caldari 5
Amarr The Element Syndicate Hand That Feeds
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ishina Fel
Originally by: Mica Petrokov If 32 of you are being camped in by four guys, you're doing something wrong.
And yet it's surprisingly common, especially in empire wars 
Normally because the combined Combat Skills SP for the 32 in station is ~20M SP and the 4 outside station have ~20M SP each in Combat Skills
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Red Kelly
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: Red Kelly on 03/08/2010 07:29:10
Originally by: Higgs Bison In EVE, I fly spaceships. I shoot at other spaceships, controlled by players like myself or NPCs.
In what identifiable ways will Incarna improve this for me?
Incarna will help you by that, that people will be exploring the station and not the space, they will not take part in the mass fleet fighting, by so reducing lag on mass fights. Though its ridiculous, yesterday we been in a fleet of 20 hunting red fleet of 10, the lag was so bad that it took 2 minutes to jump through a gate, seriously, and even when the red ships poped , it took about 2 minutes till they changed from ship to pod , was funny when the FC calls a target and you can't target it as it's already a pod but everyone see ship on the overview. CCP better put it's attention to the growing issue of unstable game play instead of adding more lagging features.
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Johan Moisander
Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.08.03 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Higgs Bison In EVE, I fly spaceships. I shoot at other spaceships, controlled by players like myself or NPCs.
In what identifiable ways will Incarna improve this for me?
Well you won't have to do it anymore (it's not actually very fun). I for one can't wait to rp in stations all day instead of actually playing EVE, I'm forcing myself to log on these days so it'd be nice to log on because I enjoy it for a change. And when WoD come out I'm ****ing out of here *****es I'm gonna be a MALKAVIAN FEMALE with a LONG RED DRESS and a THING FOR INCEST.
x if you wanna rp my brother
(ps im a dude in real life but I'm a good actor so its not that weird)
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Cailais
Amarr THE ORDAINED
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Posted - 2010.08.03 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Higgs Bison In EVE, I fly spaceships. I shoot at other spaceships, controlled by players like myself or NPCs.
In what identifiable ways will Incarna improve this for me?
The OP has quite cleverly described his activity in EVE in the most simplistic bare bones manner possible - leading to the conclusion that nothing in Incarna could possibly relate to 'flying spaceships'.
But that's a fallacy. For example someone docked and playing the market isn't flying a spaceship, nor is he shooting at other players flying spaceships - arguably that player is doing nothing even remotely involving spacehips at all, at least according to the OPs definition.
And yet we would instantly recognise market manipulation and trade as being 'EVE'.
The same will apply for Incarna. There will be goods and services related to Incarna that will be traded across EVE. What those are we don't know but we can hazard a guess that they will probably include textiles, clothing, "furniture" (in the widest sense of the term). Not that exciting I grant you, but then just how exhilarating is a cap booster 800? Really?
Some of those products will be rarer than others, and will be sources from 'in space' activities. Those resources, like everything else, will be a source of competition and conflict.
The OP makes the mistake that simply because something is not of value to him; it wont be of value to someone else. Whilst you, or I, might gawk and look on in envy at that faction fit navy apoc and consider that 'worth a nice pile of ISK' the Incarna player might equally desire that pure megacyte table for his corporate office or bar. Maybe he wants some of those Serpentis Exotic Dancers for his bar (the ones who wear that all in one leather outfit in white?) that can only be obtained in the Curse region?
The OP forgets that if you want something for nothing in EVE the only sure fire, 100% cast iron guarantee of getting it is to shoot someone in the face for it.
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.03 09:01:00 -
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You can (s)troll around bases and show off some skin, Then ask ISK for showing more skin...then in the end take the customer into the "private loft" and stab him and take the rest of the isk.
It's just another element. Remember that not everybody goes around shooting people. Some actually mine and do trade...and only that. Boring, but they do. Stop whining. |

Insane Randomness
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Posted - 2010.08.03 17:19:00 -
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What I'm really waiting for is when I get to command my ship from the bridge, and I think the incarna engine is probably the biggest step forwards for this. Mind you, it won't happen if people keep *****ing about how they hate it...
However, I think before any of this happens, one big thing does need to happen... The bugs... In the HTFU video, "Bugs coming at us like starship troopers" applies to more than just devs. It applies to everyone and it means headaches for everyone. I personally think that a sole expansion should be dedicated to fixing bugs, and making sure they are fixed, even the smaller ones. Now I have been in big and small fleets alike, from two, too two hundred and I have yet to experience truly horrific lag. Just turn the graphics down, thats all. Lag is going to be a part of EVE, weather you like it or not. A game that looks this beautiful is not going to be lag free, especially with this many players.
Also if they are focusing on PvE stuff to enrage you pvpers, then explain the jump of all L5 missions to low sec... |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.03 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer It's just another element. Remember that not everybody goes around shooting people. Some actually mine and do trade...and only that. Boring, but they do.
But it isn't about what others want. It's about what I want and don't want. And I don't want WIS so CCP shouldn't add it.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |

Syn Callibri
Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.08.03 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer It's just another element. Remember that not everybody goes around shooting people. Some actually mine and do trade...and only that. Boring, but they do.
But it isn't about what others want. It's about what I want and don't want. And I don't want WIS so CCP shouldn't add it.
I'll grant you this...there are a lot of "I"s in that statement from what I've read so far concerning WIS.
Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
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Xpaulusx
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:15:00 -
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What will Encarna & Dust bring? The 12 year old ****** Leage 
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Towaoc
Caldari Applied Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:25:00 -
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I think Incarna could be huge, along the lines of this:
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker ...The fact still dont change though: a new game engine is being added to EVE online. And that opens for all kinds of fun: Socializing, trade, industry/crafting, all-out war: infantry/vehicles, planetary terraforming/inhabitation/utilization/occupation etc etc etc etc. We will just have to wait and see what will happen!
Literally, a game within the game, and the possibilities are immense. At least in concept, it's a natural and logical extension of Eve both contentwise and architecturally. Thinking about it brings back fond memories of the lively discussions that took place here in these forums back in 2001 and 2002 in anticipation of the original launch. This could be very cool, dudes...
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Blue Binary
Polychoron
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:29:00 -
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Whilst I am sceptical of Incarna itself improving gameplay for me personally, there is little information about features; my initial impression at the moment is social entertainment and dressing up dolls (animations look shiny). What I am interested in is the market opportunities in supplying goods & services for Incarna related business.
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Burnharder
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Posted - 2010.08.03 21:04:00 -
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Quote: Broadens the immersive experience of EVE as a Sci-Fi simulation in general
This ^. And afterwards, walking on planets/moons :p.
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Catherine Griffin
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Burnharder And afterwards, walking on planets/moons :p.
I'd absolutely LOVE to see outposts on planets like in star wars!  And hope "walking on ships" wil also be added!!
Originally by: Blue Binary dressing up dolls (animations look shiny).
I think that's not Incarna, it's the CCP devs that have been playing with some new nvidia tool. I doubt it if this engine is going to make it into the game (I won't object though)!
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Higgs Bison In what identifiable ways will Incarna improve this for me?
Incarna will make:
1). Your balls bigger. 2). Your **** harder.
You will be feared my men, loved by wommen. Girls will want yer baby, some men will too.
What else can you ask for?
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Dr Reinhold
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:29:00 -
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Walking in capital ships perhaps. Regular ships don't need it since we are in capsules after all. Moons and Planets? I dunno, they might but then again that part might be limited to the Dust portions of the game.
I do think there is a lot of good stuff they could add with Incarna but it would be nice if they would put it all on hold and come out with an expansion called "Foundation" in which they updated the UI, industry, FW, Sov and generally fixed bugs. That would earn them a lot of goodwill and perhaps a best game vote next year. 
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Blue Binary
Polychoron
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Griffin
Originally by: Blue Binary dressing up dolls (animations look shiny).
I think that's not Incarna, it's the CCP devs that have been playing with some new nvidia tool. I doubt it if this engine is going to make it into the game (I won't object though)!
I don't think they are just playing with the Nvidia APEX tool, they are using it as a development tool. An article from the Nvidia Developer Zone reports "Vigfus Omarsson (Lead Technical Artist, CCP), Snorri Sturluson (Senior Software Engineer, CCP) .... CCP added physically simulated clothing to their Eve Incarna characters using NVIDIA's APEX Clothing. We will demonstrate, step by step, the full authoring pipeline, from DCC tools to final integration into the game engine."
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eliminator2
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:55:00 -
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incarna will only appeal to me if i can kick pple's ships out of station :p -----------------------------------------------
I met Eliminator1..... I chewed it up, and spat it out. Now, he is my minion.
I kill miners and mission runners people say, I call them target pra |

Analissa Fiora
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Posted - 2010.08.03 22:58:00 -
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90% of the playerbase is against incarna and we're unhappy with the direction of the game. if they dont fix it eve will burn
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Kariel Lateef
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.03 23:02:00 -
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Well I haven't played for year, back for 2 weeks now and just now decided to go through the forums to get caught up on stuff. I found this thread and was immediately reminded of similar threads predicting the destruction of Eve with the release of T3 cruisers.
Some things never change, gladly Eve is not one of these things. I don't know how much "station walking" I will do, but I will be glad to see this new facet of Eve. yeah what ever |

Koba Kyogen
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.08.04 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lord XSiV words
+1 right on the mark
Upsetting, but true
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed. delaying startup again.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.04 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Analissa Fiora 90% of the playerbase is against incarna and we're unhappy with the direction of the game. if they dont fix it eve will burn
No. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Zalafas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.04 02:38:00 -
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Has CCP announced what they intend to do with walking-in-stations, to begin with?
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Analissa Fiora
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Posted - 2010.08.04 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Analissa Fiora 90% of the playerbase is against incarna and we're unhappy with the direction of the game. if they dont fix it eve will burn
No.
incarna is just a stupid little game giving cowardly station-hugging carebears something to do while being camped. if theyre camped theyre not supposed to be "enjoying" it. this is just ccp catering to carebears some more. nobody but carebears want this crap.
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Kariel Lateef
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Analissa Fiora
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Analissa Fiora 90% of the playerbase is against incarna and we're unhappy with the direction of the game. if they dont fix it eve will burn
No.
incarna is just a stupid little game giving cowardly station-hugging carebears something to do while being camped. if theyre camped theyre not supposed to be "enjoying" it. this is just ccp catering to carebears some more. nobody but carebears want this crap.
LOL, yes if you yell load enough someone will care. Sorry no, my particular group of care bears is all 0.0 space, used to PvP and really excited about this. Now I am a relative newbie and high sec, I too look forward to this, not because it will affect my internet spaceship experience, but because it adds another dimension to the game. For me as a Role player, that is good enough.
Problem with the complaints is that everyone wants Eve to be THEIR game, they forget that Eve is EVERYONES game, sandbox, get over it. yeah what ever |

Kariel Lateef
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:27:00 -
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yeah what ever |

Bud Johnson
Rapscallions
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:28:00 -
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It will make it a more complete SciFi simulator. Cornering EVE as a "space ship" game narrows the possibilities of the sandbox. Don't stop whining though, it sustains me through the work day. 
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Kariel Lateef
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.04 04:34:00 -
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Sorry to double post, but had to keep going. Eve is not your game, it is everyone's game, be it the carebear, the 0.0 miner or whoever. Get over your opinion of Eve, it doesn't matter, no one cares. Eve is a game for all, do as you wish, take risks as you wish. Yhe number one draw of Eve is this flexibilty, carebear allow the 0.0 folk to have at it, the miners allow the PVE folk to have a market etc etc.
It is normal human response to hate change, however if all had done that we would still be chipping flint, if you think it is a good idea run with it, myself I like my Ipod and look forward to Dust. yeah what ever |
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