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Barrak
Caldari
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.08.07 13:42:00 -
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Hi,
I was just wondering if ECM drones were best utilised in the same manner as normal ECM modules.
Most people tend not to unleash the full power of a whole rack of ECM on the first go, they tend to get staggered and I was wondering if this should also be implemented by releasing the drones seperately with between 5 and 10 seconds between releases?
What say you?
Barrak
In this life (Eve) dying is easy, its living thats hard.
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Admiral Hawke
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Posted - 2010.08.07 14:13:00 -
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TBH, it doesn't really matter. Each drone has a chance to jam of whatever it's individual points are, just like ECM modules. Not to mention, in the middle of a fight, right clicking a single drone at a time could affect your attention from other things like staying alive.
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Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.08.07 15:00:00 -
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My fav is to release 1 EWAR drone amongst my normal attack drones. Nobody ever notices the EWAR one :) Until its too late :)
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Gecko O'Bac
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.08.07 16:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Admiral Hawke
TBH, it doesn't really matter. Each drone has a chance to jam of whatever it's individual points are, just like ECM modules. Not to mention, in the middle of a fight, right clicking a single drone at a time could affect your attention from other things like staying alive.
Well in truth he's right: staggering activation for ecm is the way to go, that way you can stop putting jammers on a target once he's jammed and also you don't overlap durations. For drones it would make sense as well, but on anything other than a 1 vs 1, perhaps 1 vs 2 you're just wasting precious clicks...
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Tragot Gomndor
Amarr
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.08.07 18:00:00 -
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well, actually its better to have 5 times the chance to jam one target, than only 1 time the chance to jam 5 targets...
but regarding only sending in one drone to attack, why not implement something like "Drones: Order 1 drone to attack target" as a new command and it only effect drones that do nothing... should also be a good thing for mainteance drones...
aah and there should be a command to "Reconnect to lost drones on grid" like for probes... peoples often forget their drones or lost them through disconnect...
well, i dont feel like doing feature request, maybe someone else want to steal them :P
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Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.08.08 08:17:00 -
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They do work better if you stagger them - a LOT better. However you need to remember that each drone has to be within its own activation range to do anything and that your only way of controlling the stagger is by controlling the range of the drones from target.
In practice this means that you'll be able to stagger them on the first target (just release them at 10-15 sec intervals) and possibly the second if there's not much going on. I'm simply not good enough at controlling drones to keep the stagger going onto the third target - by that time the drones are all in a tight group probably firing off their jams at the same time.
tl;dr yes it works but its not very practical - might be if you're uber at controlling drones.
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Aerilis
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.08.08 18:01:00 -
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I don't see how staggering them would be better? I mean yes I know theres a chance of two drones getting a jam at the same time, which produces "waste", but the exact same thing would happen if you staggered them no?
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Timm Tachyon
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Posted - 2010.08.08 19:05:00 -
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The staggering of ecm modules on one target is usually not done to prevent "waste" jammtime.
It¦s done to enable you to target the remaining jammers at different targets once you get a hit on your current.
With drones and their travel time this becomes highly impractical. Also the individual drones jamming chance is so low you mostly need a whole flight to get halfway reliable jamming.
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Msc Berzerk
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Posted - 2010.08.08 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Aerilis
I don't see how staggering them would be better? I mean yes I know theres a chance of two drones getting a jam at the same time, which produces "waste", but the exact same thing would happen if you staggered them no?
No not realy, without giving you the logic, i ran a simulation in matlab.
With 5 drones, each having a 20% chance of jamming, with 20 seconds jamming time and cooldown. And the enemy taking 10 second to lock you after having been jammed:
Running a simulation for 10 million seconds, if the drones are all jamming at the same time:
Drones jamming at the same time: target got you locked 22.74% of the time.
Drones equaly spaced (4 second gaps): target got you locked 19.94% of the time.
The differance is that he has you locked about 14% less of the time if you spread them out.
So if 14% less incomming damage is worth it to you, then yes space your drones!
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Aerilis
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:08:00 -
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Ah I forgot re-lock time. Yes then that would make staggered better, ty :) |
Das Governator
The Republican Party
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Posted - 2010.08.08 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
My fav is to release 1 EWAR drone amongst my normal attack drones. Nobody ever notices the EWAR one until they're looting my wreck and scooping my drones to cargo
fixed.
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