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Aerilis Gallente Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:38:00 - [1] It's simple. Whenever a PLEX is destroyed, the highest buy orders for PLEXs in that system get filled. Let's say, hypothetically, 74 PLEXs get destroyed in Jita in a kestrel. What happens then is the 74 highest buy orders for PLEXs in that system get magically filled, and the PLEX delivered to those players' hangars. It would be the exact same as if the previous owner of the PLEX had simply sold them, except of course he won't get any ISK. This way gametime is not removed through destroyed PLEX, nor are game mechanics bent in any way to accommodate PLEX. It also produces another ISK sink, which will benefit the Eve economy (the same way big wars that destroy lots of ships benefit the economy). It also won't have any extreme affects on the market, as there are already many people who sell PLEX straight to buy orders (they can't wait for their ISK). When I need my monthly PLEX, I usually just put up a buy order and wait a couple hours. Come on CCP, the money you make from destroyed PLEXs isn't that much, it's not worth alienating the playerbase. This way everybody gets what they want.
Dalmont Delantee Gallente Fidelis Discordia	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:40:00 - [2] Or we can just not emo about a game mechanic which doesn't bother 90% of the player base and the 10% are moaning probably have nothing to do with plex purchase/using and therefore just having some stupid mixed up moral dilema regarding a company making some money. If you don't want the company to make money don't play, don't transport plexes and play something else :P Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons
Pipecock Jackxon Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:41:00 - [3] yeah or you could just not undock with 74 plex in a kestrel
Roosterton	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:41:00 - [4] Quote: alienating the playerbase. "Alienating the playerbase?" Why do I care if some moron undocks in an untanked Kestrel with 74 and gets popped?
Xelie Hello Kitty Goes Commando	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Aerilis it's not worth alienating the playerbase. I think most of the playerbase just finds it funny actually.
Dansel Gallente Telsa inc	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:46:00 - [6] Imo, setting the droprate of PLEX to 100% seems better to me. And by the way, they should really separate sigs from the main post.
Roosterton	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:48:00 - [7] Originally by: Dansel Imo, setting the droprate of PLEX to 100% seems better to me.
Shawna Gray Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Aerilis it's not worth alienating the playerbase. I think the whole episode is hilarious and its great to see this happening.
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:50:00 - [9] Edited by: Stick Cult on 10/08/2010 22:50:04 Quote: Come on CCP, the money you make from destroyed PLEXs isn't that much, it's not worth alienating the playerbase. This way everybody gets what they want. 1) If the money destroyed from PLEX isn't that much, then why do you care? 2) It's not alienating the playerbase, it's alienating the vocal few on the forums. 3) This change doesn't make ME happy, so it's not everyone. edit: I am totally serious on #3 too, this would suck. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Aerilis Gallente Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:52:00 - [10] Edited by: Aerilis on 10/08/2010 22:53:07 Originally by: Stick Cult Edited by: Stick Cult on 10/08/2010 22:50:04 Quote: Come on CCP, the money you make from destroyed PLEXs isn't that much, it's not worth alienating the playerbase. This way everybody gets what they want. 1) If the money destroyed from PLEX isn't that much, then why do you care? 2) It's not alienating the playerbase, it's alienating the vocal few on the forums. 3) This change doesn't make ME happy, so it's not everyone. edit: I am totally serious on #3 too, this would suck. 1. Because I do not agree with the ethics of it (my opinion, you are entitled to yours) 2. From what I've seen, your side has been just as vocal as mine, if not more so. 3. How would this negatively affect you? I really thought this through and thought it was an elegant solution.

Isten Baba	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:54:00 - [11] Can we please get back to the important issue, namely CCP's lack of focus/commitment to EVE basics, and their ridiculous strategy regarding vampires and consoles? Just let them have that extra bit of cash, as long as they spend it on EVE.
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:55:00 - [12] Originally by: Aerilis Originally by: Stick Cult Edited by: Stick Cult on 10/08/2010 22:50:04 Quote: Come on CCP, the money you make from destroyed PLEXs isn't that much, it's not worth alienating the playerbase. This way everybody gets what they want. 1) If the money destroyed from PLEX isn't that much, then why do you care? 2) It's not alienating the playerbase, it's alienating the vocal few on the forums. 3) This change doesn't make ME happy, so it's not everyone. edit: I am totally serious on #3 too, this would suck. How would this negatively affect you? I really thought this through and thought it was an elegant solution. Quite elegant, you're a genius. But it just doesn't make me happy! No really, I don't like it. you're giving PLEX special status again, instead of the just an everyday normal item. To be honest I would prefer the 100% droprate to this. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Dian'h Might Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Aerilis 3. How would this negatively affect you? I really thought this through and thought it was an elegant solution. Plex is an ingame item, making it behave like every other ingame item is the elegant solution. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac"
Shawna Gray Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:58:00 - [14] Originally by: Aerilis How would this negatively affect you? I really thought this through and thought it was an elegant solution. Because i like to see stuff blown up. Even the stupid 100% droprate idea is better than this. At least then you reward the hunters.
Aerilis Gallente Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:59:00 - [15] Originally by: Isten Baba Can we please get back to the important issue, namely CCP's lack of focus/commitment to EVE basics, and their ridiculous strategy regarding vampires and consoles? Just let them have that extra bit of cash, as long as they spend it on EVE. Except they probably won't. If there was a way to make them promise to spend the extra cash on fixing bugs, I might be persuaded. Originally by: Stick Cult Quite elegant, you're a genius. But it just doesn't make me happy! No really, I don't like it. you're giving PLEX special status again, instead of the just an everyday normal item. To be honest I would prefer the 100% droprate to this. Problem with that is people whine about more attention from suicide gankers.
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 23:02:00 - [16] Originally by: Aerilis Originally by: Stick Cult Quite elegant, you're a genius. But it just doesn't make me happy! No really, I don't like it. you're giving PLEX special status again, instead of the just an everyday normal item. To be honest I would prefer the 100% droprate to this. Problem with that is people whine about more attention from suicide gankers. And they should just HTFU. Suicide gankers will target plex tranports no matter what, if not only for teh lulz. As the poster a few posts above me said, treating them as any other drop is the elegant solution. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Simply Humus	Posted - 2010.08.10 23:06:00 - [17] A plex is not 17.5 dollars/euros. It is an ingame item that can be traded and has the potential to be redeemed for 30 days of play time. Once you have paid the 17.5 to CCP you get the item. This is not a trick, you do actually get the item in your redeemable items. What you do or don't do with it after that is not their responsibility. If you accidentally trash the item they're under no obligation to give you a new one. If you undock with it and get blown up and it doesn't drop they're under no obligation to give you a new one. If you don't like how it works don't buy a plex out of game, or in game. That way there's no way CCP can "steal" your money.
Isten Baba	Posted - 2010.08.10 23:06:00 - [18] Originally by: Aerilis Except they probably won't. If there was a way to make them promise to spend the extra cash on fixing bugs, I might be persuaded. Well, I still have hope. Otherwise I would have cancelled my subscriptions by now. I do believe that other (minor, in my opinion) complaints such as this PLEX stuff are dilutuing the more important "focus on EVE" messages.
Solostrom	Posted - 2010.08.10 23:11:00 - [19] Originally by: Aerilis buncha stuff Dude Kestrel's undocking at Jita 4-4 with 74 plexes in hold during a wardec makes me happy! Doesn't need a fix! Super the way it is!
Demolishar Internet Spaceship Raiders	Posted - 2010.08.10 23:38:00 - [20] PLEX prices have risen 30mil since CCP made PLEX destructible

Aerilis Gallente Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.08.11 00:38:00 - [21] Originally by: Simply Humus A plex is not 17.5 dollars/euros. It is an ingame item that can be traded and has the potential to be redeemed for 30 days of play time. Once you have paid the 17.5 to CCP you get the item. This is not a trick, you do actually get the item in your redeemable items. What you do or don't do with it after that is not their responsibility. If you accidentally trash the item they're under no obligation to give you a new one. If you undock with it and get blown up and it doesn't drop they're under no obligation to give you a new one. If you don't like how it works don't buy a plex out of game, or in game. That way there's no way CCP can "steal" your money. This thread isn't about that, please see the other threadnought :) Originally by: Solostrom Originally by: Aerilis buncha stuff Dude Kestrel's undocking at Jita 4-4 with 74 plexes in hold during a wardec makes me happy! Doesn't need a fix! Super the way it is! And nothing would change for you! Gank away!
Felix Esperium Lysergic Distortions Research and Development	Posted - 2010.08.11 00:44:00 - [22] So when my domi gets blown up by WTs on the Jita undock will the person with the highest buy order get one of those as well?
Aerilis Gallente Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.08.11 00:50:00 - [23] Originally by: Felix Esperium So when my domi gets blown up by WTs on the Jita undock will the person with the highest buy order get one of those as well? A Domi can be mined from asteroids and built entirely in game. A PLEX cannot. Simple as chips.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.11 00:52:00 - [24] Originally by: Aerilis Dear CCP: An easy fix Ahahaha...No. Originally by: Aerilis to destructible PLEX that makes everyone happy Ahahaha...No. In short, you lied. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.08.11 00:55:00 - [25] Originally by: Aerilis A Domi can be mined from asteroids and built entirely in game. A PLEX cannot. Simple as chips. Yes, a PLEX is built in game. In fact, the only way to get a PLEX is for a player to make it from a GTC. If no one converted a GTC into a PLEX, they would not exist.
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.08.11 01:00:00 - [26] It's a mystery to me why people think that in-game items that you buy with real money are somehow special. There are plenty of games (LOTRO, DDO, etal) where you directly buy in-game items with real money and they don't offer the money back when you lose the in-game item.
Cire XIII Caldari Ever Flow Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.11 01:03:00 - [27] I don't mind the system currently in place. I would like to CCP state that the drop chance is the same as all other modules, or give some insight into how drop rates work. They have probably already done so, and I should be asking google/eve-search, and not this forum. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. Our problems are server-side.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.11 01:13:00 - [28] Originally by: Cire XIII I don't mind the system currently in place. I would like to CCP state that the drop chance is the same as all other modules, or give some insight into how drop rates work. They have probably already done so, and I should be asking google/eve-search, and not this forum. MMhmm _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.08.11 01:16:00 - [29] Originally by: Dalmont Delantee Or we can just not emo about a game mechanic .. or we can just not emo about a player posing a possible solution ....
Felix Esperium Lysergic Distortions Research and Development	Posted - 2010.08.11 01:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Aerilis Originally by: Felix Esperium So when my domi gets blown up by WTs on the Jita undock will the person with the highest buy order get one of those as well? A Domi can be mined from asteroids and built entirely in game. A PLEX cannot. Simple as chips. How would this negatively affect you?



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