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kbrdhero	Posted - 2010.08.11 19:50:00 - [1] Hey everyone, Although I plan to join a null-sec corp sometime in the future when I have a decent bankroll, I'm currently running level 3's in .5 sec, which happens to neighbor a .4 system. After running missions for a couple weeks, the monotony of "Deliver cargo hear, kill mercs here, herpderp here" began to wear on me. "Hmm, I'm near a .4, maybe I should give piracy a shot," I thought to myself. As a Caldari PvE missile slinger, I realized that my current skill set would not be adequate for my piracy needs. For two weeks I trained up on decent PvP skills (Minmatar frigate, projectile turrets, autocannon specialization, etc.). Finally the time came to venture out into the .4 to make my claim on the oodles of ISK waiting for me, or so I thought. As I soon came to discover, the .4 system that I was planning on pirating in only has one entrance - the .5 that I just came from. This means that most of the ships I ended up scanning down were only there for a simple mission, then would warp out. I can't tell you the number of times I scanned down a ship, only to warp in and find only wrecks. My first 'success' came when I scanned a Hulk and a Bestower. "Oh sweet," I thought to myself, "I just found a two man mining op." I quickly docked, switched from my scanning ship to my PvP fit Rifter, and proceeded to warp to 0. Upon arrival, a massive shield sprung to life in front of me. As a carebear, I'd never seen a POS before, so I spend a good deal of time looking at it. BOOM, there go my shields. "Oh **, missile batteries, why did I not expect those. Gotta warp out of here quick." BOOM, there goes my armor. " me." BOOM**...pod. Went out, bought a new Rifter, refit it, flew back out to the .4 system. After about 40 minutes, I scanned down a Caracal ratting in a belt. "Hmm...depending on what type of rats are in that belt, I could probably take him." Warped to 0, adrenaline pumping the entire time. As soon as I arrive, I land right on the Caracal's face. "Okay okay okay, don't panic, you've got this. What's he currently fighting." Turns out he was engaged with a BS and two destroyers. "Sweet! Time to get my first killmail!" Scram, web, autocannons and rockets all go off at once. "Okay, he's almost out of shield, as soon as that happens he should go down pretty fast." Then I get a private chat request from the guy. Here's what it looked like: Me: "What's it worth to you to save your ship?" Him: "Honestly...I don't have any ISK left, I literally spent all of it on buying and fitting this cruiser." Me: "That was an incredibly stupid thing to do, especially when you're alone in low-sec." Him: "I know...and honestly, I deserve to get popped due to my stupidity :(" By this time he was halfway into armor. I checked out his stats, and sure enough, he'd only been playing EVE for three weeks. I don't know what came over me, but I felt bad for the guy. Three weeks into EVE and he's about to lose everything he's accumulated. I broke off my scram and web and said "GTFO out of this belt, you're about to pop." He warps to station and we continue our conversation. It turns out he travels a lot for his job, so he plays EVE at night in his hotel room to pass the time. He seemed like a really great guy, thankful that I didn't pop him, asking for advice on how to be better prepared, etc. I ended up giving the guy 4 million ISK, just because it'd do him more good than me. So yeah, my first attempt at piracy was a flop. Not only did I lose the kill, but I lost money in the end. Ultimately what I discovered is that I enjoy my game experience more when others are having fun. It would have been awesome to get the kill, but getting to see how excited he was for not getting popped and receiving (for him) a large sum of ISK was more rewarding. Had he been a pirate with a negative sec rating I would have reconsidered, but that's a different story entirely -kbrdhero
SabotNoob	Posted - 2010.08.11 19:56:00 - [2] Maybe you could have killed his ship, spared his pod, and then given him enough isk to replace everything he lost. You would have gotten your first killmail, and he wouldn't have lost everything. Assuming you could spare the isk... ____________________ Chuck Norris can win a game of Connect Four in three moves.
kbrdhero	Posted - 2010.08.11 20:05:00 - [3] Originally by: SabotNoob Maybe you could have killed his ship, spared his pod, and then given him enough isk to replace everything he lost. You would have gotten your first killmail, and he wouldn't have lost everything. Assuming you could spare the isk... Ah, that's a good point, I didn't even think about that. I'm sitting on 200mil ISK right now, so purchasing a ship + fittings wouldn't have been a problem. I'll keep that in mind for next time, thanks!
Seith Silverstein Something Rotten	Posted - 2010.08.11 20:08:00 - [4] Regardless of what trolls might say, I applaud your actions. Unlike 99% of the other carebear ****s out there, you at least strapped yourself into a ship and put your ship on the line. You found out it wasn't for you, but that's not a big deal. Some people don't like certain aspects of games. It's one thing to not enjoy something after trying it, it's another to never try it and post whine thread after whine thread. +1 Internet Cookies for hero. Originally by:** CCP Soundwave I am literally the internet
Irae Ragwan	Posted - 2010.08.11 20:13:00 - [5] +1 for having the balls to pvp and the honor to let a poor idiot run. Inb4 e-hon(u)or = lolz!1
OneTimeAt BannedSpank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.08.11 20:14:00 - [6] Props for having a go, hope you continue. Props also for showing mercy to a new player... not many people would do that. Either or, the call was yours to make. Effectively you 'won' the engagement even if you didn't get a little killmail out of it. You have done it once, you can do it again. ~ One million alts cant be wrong.
Sjugar	Posted - 2010.08.11 20:53:00 - [7] On another note: you might want to look for another system to pirate. If you lose anough sec-status and you're in a deadend 0.4 system you're stuck or you need to pod travel.
Da Bandit	Posted - 2010.08.11 20:55:00 - [8] Sounds like you fail as a pirate. Maybe you should stick to being a carebear :)
Joe Phoenix	Posted - 2010.08.11 21:09:00 - [9] That story made smile :)
kiki mo Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2010.08.11 21:12:00 - [10] Good Job on learning that Eve is a multiplayer game and that no matter how you play it (pirate, carebear, ninja...etc) it is a lot more fun when you are interacting with others (rather than sitting in a belt mining, or ratting, or mission running alone.) You had the power in this engagement, and you played it your own personal style. You probably made Eve a lot more interesting for that noob also. You might be disappointed in null-sec alliances and politics tho, if you like to get personal and have some action. BTW, if you trained up minmatar frig skills, autocannons...etc...why, on the pos-killmail, does it show you were flying a Merlin with rails/rockets?
kbrdhero	Posted - 2010.08.11 21:22:00 - [11] Originally by: kiki mo Good Job on learning that Eve is a multiplayer game and that no matter how you play it (pirate, carebear, ninja...etc) it is a lot more fun when you are interacting with others (rather than sitting in a belt mining, or ratting, or mission running alone.) You had the power in this engagement, and you played it your own personal style. You probably made Eve a lot more interesting for that noob also. You might be disappointed in null-sec alliances and politics tho, if you like to get personal and have some action. BTW, if you trained up minmatar frig skills, autocannons...etc...why, on the pos-killmail, does it show you were flying a Merlin with rails/rockets? I was in the middle of training level 5 projectile turrets and got antsy I only had a couple hundred characters left in my post, didn't want to waste the readers time explaining that I first went out in a Merlin. Good catch though.
Daergaar Caldari Yama Seki	Posted - 2010.08.11 21:37:00 - [12] Edited by: Daergaar on 11/08/2010 21:37:35 I'm not a pirate, but I do enjoy PvP. I've had some incredible luck doing level 3 missions in low-sec with my PvP fit HAM Drake (with an AB and not an MWD). The missions go a bit slow, but I'm not really there for the mission. You'd be shocked how many people scan you down and warp to you to either ninja loot or try and tackle you before their fleetmates warp in. I've shredded plenty of tacklers like that. They're shocked to find themselves webbed and scrammed, and then popped with a barrage of heavy assault missiles and drones.
Andrea Skye Caldari The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.11 22:13:00 - [13] Edited by: Andrea Skye on 11/08/2010 22:13:18 If there isnt tears, it isnt piracy! Tears are worth more than any amount of isk, and tears make your ship go faster. SRSLY. Props for having a go, but if you arent prepared to kill somebody just because thier a new player well... piracy isnt for you. I've had a bunch of good drops from players only a day old. Could be a hauling alt, could be a guy whos just started playing with a friend whos gave him loads of isk. YOU NEVER know for sure until thier ship is a steaming wreck.
Apocrit Vespulus Moderate Inconvenience	Posted - 2010.08.11 22:45:00 - [14] Honestly you'd be doing him a better service by teaching him the important lesson of not flying what you can't afford to lose while his losses are minimal.
Jovialmadness	Posted - 2010.08.11 22:54:00 - [15] You do realize piracy will follow you everywhere you go bro. Its like a stain that will torment your chances of ever getting you into the best of the best. Do this at your own risk!! Im just trying to help you reach your Full potential bro. Of course its relative if peeps can handle It.
ElJo123 Sons Of 0din The Strangers.	Posted - 2010.08.12 00:09:00 - [16] Originally by: Andrea Skye Edited by: Andrea Skye on 11/08/2010 22:13:18 If there isnt tears, it isnt piracy! Props for having a go, but if you arent prepared to kill somebody just because thier a new player well... piracy isnt for you. wat
Vauxim Minmatar Just Us Guys In Space	Posted - 2010.08.12 00:38:00 - [17] This is what happens when bears pvp.
Xenuria Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.08.12 02:51:00 - [18] Originally by: SabotNoob Maybe you could have killed his ship, spared his pod, and then given him enough isk to replace everything he lost. You would have gotten your first killmail, and he wouldn't have lost everything. Assuming you could spare the isk... This is the kind of thing I would do if I had the cash. I purposely avoid conflict with other players. Even when players war dec me I go out of my way to be non-violent. Only when I have no other option do I fight and if possible I leave and spare the pilot should they allow me to by un scramming me. IT is not a play style for everybody but it fits my needs, I would like to think that some day when I got surrounded by some pirates they would be considerate enough to not engage me unless I specifically got in their way. Never kill just for the sake of killing. If you kill you better make dame sure there is a good reason behind it. Be it strategic or otherwise.
lord xavier Queens of the Stone Age	Posted - 2010.08.12 05:02:00 - [19] I agree with Spank completely. You won the engagement. You don't need a killmail to prove that. The fact you got enjoyment out of it proves that. Now though, being a pirate is to cause tears and **. Maybe you are more set on PVPing then pirating. You dont have to Pirate to solo-pvp. Pirating is more of griefing other players. Biomass is free (of) Eve4life!**
kiki mo Caldari Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2010.08.12 20:22:00 - [20] Originally by: Xenuria This is the kind of thing I would do if I had the cash. I purposely avoid conflict with other players. Even when players war dec me I go out of my way to be non-violent. Only when I have no other option do I fight and if possible I leave and spare the pilot should they allow me to by un scramming me. IT is not a play style for everybody but it fits my needs, I would like to think that some day when I got surrounded by some pirates they would be considerate enough to not engage me unless I specifically got in their way. Never kill just for the sake of killing. If you kill you better make dame sure there is a good reason behind it. Be it strategic or otherwise. Couple of things... - You're in an NPC corp...how can other players war dec you? - It's good that you have your own play style and it works for you (this part of your post was actually good), but why did you feel the need to be preachy at the end? "never do this or that... If you kill, you better have a reason..." - Confirming that the Meatsausage Express guys are pretty considerate and do not engage unless you target them first. Decon is a pretty decent system for mining and ratting. I'm sure most lowsec pirates are also, but I have limited experience in other systems.
Tuggrok Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.12 21:39:00 - [21] to op I remember watching the waltons.
Jones Bones Final Agony	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:10:00 - [22] You had fun. Nothing else really matters.
whiteshark12 The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2010.08.12 22:57:00 - [23] Edited by: whiteshark12 on 12/08/2010 23:00:20 #1) you had fun, thats all that matters #2) youll be suprized how many good pirates will repay a newbie character if they get their ship killed but they have a good conversation. they just need to talk without raging. the only guys who really will screw you over without a second thought are hi-sec griefers and ninja-salvagers. not saying anything bad about them, but the way they operate makes goodwill hard to come by. #3) you really shouldve popped him then given him the isk ro re-buy his ship EDIT: actually read some of those posts and i thought i would point out that piracy is just PvP but you fight more for the ISK than for the kill itself. Granted, ive never passed a kill up, but Ransoms are preferred over killmails where we are
Nerogk Shorn Caldari Invicta. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.08.12 23:18:00 - [24] This reminds me of the first couple times I pirated a loooong time ago. It's not hard to feel bad for the people you kill in the beginning. From what I've learned however, is that many will say anything in order to not get their ship destroyed, and some of the really cool people i've met have come from good conversations AFTER one of us has died. A lot of respect can be gained on either side from this. If they die and emorage at you, it is obvious that you don't want to know them. It's hard to tell until you've killed them. The first pirating experience I had was in 2005 when me in a crow and my buddy in a brutix jumped some dude ratting at a static spawn site at the sun in Angur. He was flying a Caracal as well. We were all pumped and excited. Banzai rushed him and blew his ship up. My friend accidentally locked and podded him. He felt really bad about it. That was until a couple days later, when he'd go into the surrounding systems and people would write in local things like "omg Max is in local, he's a pirate, dock up quick!" At which point he felt like a bad ass. haha Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
FunzzeR Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.08.13 01:42:00 - [25] HOLY WALL OF TEXT... tl;dr? PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!! THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!!
Lillith Starfire	Posted - 2010.08.15 08:23:00 - [26] Originally by: Jones Bones You had fun. Nothing else really matters. This. Ignore the immature brats who can only feel big about themselves at other peoples' expense.
Bunzan Cardinal The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2010.08.15 08:38:00 - [27] Originally by: SabotNoob Maybe you could have killed his ship, spared his pod, and then given him enough isk to replace everything he lost. You would have gotten your first killmail, and he wouldn't have lost everything. Assuming you could spare the isk... I've done this a few times if the players are a week ... or even a day old. Consider it more of a catch and release tactic. I get a killmail, he gets isk to replace the ship, advice, and a learning experience. Then just maybe a few months down the road, if he hasnt rage quitted yet, he'll be in a much more expensive ship then some T1 fit cruiser.
Midnight Pheonix Black Omega Mining Syndicate Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.15 13:44:00 - [28] Props to you buddy, and I'll have to agree with some of the posters previous, some of my greatest Eve buddies have been from people I've blown up, or have left me in a pod. I do have to admit I've helped more than one person out after getting the killmail, I personally judge it off of the conversation that follows, and how they fought. Whiners and people who rage only give me more laughs and I rarely hold respect for them. Although I don't pirate anymore, I commend you for your efforts and hope that to see you in 0.0 in the future. Midnight Pheonix
Cikulisuy Amarr D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2010.08.15 14:03:00 - [29] not bad for a first run, bet the adrenaline hit you like a brick, still does that to me in risky combat. you won though, even though you didn't get a killmail. ~
Don Pellegrino Helljumpers	Posted - 2010.08.15 17:50:00 - [30] Congratulations for trying, I wish more people would give solo pvp a try, it's really a blast. By the way, Caldari ships can pvp, too, but only using fits that would make carebears cry. Except the cruise missile Raven, that one just can't

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