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dexington 74	Posted - 2012.07.26 06:35:00 - [1] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: there is literally no way to make it cost as much as a Hulk to suicide gank a Hulk because there is no across the board damage/cost ratio for ships because of the diminishing returns aspect of the game That is the case for most ships, why should it be any different for mining ship?, the aggressor(s) still have the option to form a group an use several less expensive. You can get a battlecruiser for around 40M and hulk a hulk for around 270M. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 74	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:16:00 - [2] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: The point is you don't even have to pay attention anymore, because it won't matter whatsoever. Are we talking about mining, trading or planetary interaction?... even lvl4 missions can be done afk in drone boats. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 74	Posted - 2012.07.26 07:25:00 - [3] - Quote ChromeStriker wrote: Can i get a link to all these new stats??? where does it say barges have orca hp????? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136222&find=unread GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 75	Posted - 2012.07.26 10:59:00 - [4] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: CCP could have done so much with mining, but instead they decided to give us invulnerable bots harvesting ore and ice 24/7. It's not like they don't exist now, all battleships with 8 high out mine anything that can't fit 3 strip miners. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 76	Posted - 2012.07.26 13:04:00 - [5] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: No longer do people even have to use their brain to come up with ways of not getting blown up when mining. As it should be in hi-sec, it's only fair that the aggressor has to be the one using brains. Destroyers taking on +200M T2 ships in high, sec pretty much risk free, is not how it should be. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 78	Posted - 2012.07.26 13:48:00 - [6] - Quote Skippermonkey wrote: Unit757 wrote: Currently, on SISI, a completely untanked hulk has 12k EHP. Considering the vast majority will more then likely still fit max yield/no tank, I would say they will still be gankable. I'm not a professional ganker though, so I don't know. Edit - Sorry, I had low-grade slaves plugged in when I got that number, so it would actually less EHP. I didnt think the changes had made their way to SiSI yet Check to see if the other exhumers have bonuses for Ice and Mercoxit, etc https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136222&find=unread GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 81	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:27:00 - [7] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: ... this dumbing down of the game - yeah, welcome to a risk-free hisec. How can it be dumping down the game, when they make it harder for the gankers? GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:40:00 - [8] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: dexington wrote: Richard Desturned wrote: ... this dumbing down of the game - yeah, welcome to a risk-free hisec. How can it be dumping down the game, when they make it harder for the gankers? oh right, I forgot that gankers are actually the only players in the equation here hint: they made it easier for the miners hint: primarily in hi-sec, where it should be hard to gank miners... somehow it makes sense. if anything the game was dumped down so the self proclaimed hardcore pvp'ers could gank miners in hi-sec, now that it's going to take just a little skills/brains to find someone to gank, the same people are crying "the end of eve"... GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.27 06:14:00 - [9] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: Why can't you add the EHP yourself? Why does CCP have to do it for you? miners are special snowflakes who should not be burdened with difficult decisions like "should I give up yield or drastically increase the ability of my ship to survive a gank?" and gankers are special snowflakes who should not be burdened with difficult decisions like "picking the right target" GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.27 06:31:00 - [10] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: please continue to make mining seem more complex than it really is while making ganking seem far simpler than it really is what is hard some complex for you, seems to be pretty easy for this 7 year old girl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9XbbBtm26U GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.27 06:41:00 - [11] - Quote Jorma Morkkis wrote: Btw, passive regen isn't enough to survive 3 cruiser rats. do the belts spawn anything else then frigs? GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.27 08:02:00 - [12] - Quote Pipa Porto wrote: Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Richard Desturned wrote: they'd need 3 catalysts to kill you in an 0.5 and that's without any gang bonuses Not to rain your parade but 3 catalysts is the default setup even moderate casual gankers use... 3 T2 Catalysts is an unprofitable gank. By a LOT. CCP Soundwave wrote: Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable, it's meant to be an option that let's you punish someone else at your expense. working as intended GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.27 08:24:00 - [13] - Quote Horace Nancyball wrote: Almost 60 pages on a topic done to death every month for the last seven years... Why are you then surprised it's happening again this month? GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.27 08:27:00 - [14] - Quote Jorma Morkkis wrote: Richard Desturned wrote: also fyi that doesn't pay for 3 T2 fit catalysts 3 * 11M = 33M And if you don't insure your ship you're doing it wrong. Concord destroyed ships don't payout insurance, do they? GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.27 08:31:00 - [15] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: provide additional loot for those who sooner or later will kill you anyway. because the 30m in drops makes it so worth it to burn 60M in ships to kill you then don't do it... you are not being forced to suicide gank miners, go shoot at players in low or null for free. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.27 08:37:00 - [16] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: WE ARE DISCUSSING EXHUMERS IN THEIR CURRENT STATE, FIT FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING THEMSELVES UNPROFITABLE TO GANK EXHUMERS IN THEIR CURRENT STATE, ARE GANKED JUST FOR THE LOLZ OF WATCHING PEOPLE CRY OVER LOSING A 250M SHIP GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 83	Posted - 2012.07.27 09:35:00 - [17] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: Second, EvE is dying since 2003 and also being Trammel-ized since they made CONCORD un-tankable, added warp to zero and nerfed nano boats. Long live EvE! no, Crimewatch IS effectively Trammelizing it considering that they're doing literally everything they can do discourage suicide ganks even on those who decide that a shuttle is the best way to move 70 PLEX around. How is crimewatch doing to stop you from blowing up the shuttle? GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á
dexington 91	Posted - 2012.07.28 08:31:00 - [18] - Quote CCPSoundwave just said on twitter, that if this thread reaches an awesome of OVER 9000!!! posts all T2 barges are getting 500 shield/armor and one extra mid slot. Keep the thread alive, tears are fuel for the new barges. GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥-á

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