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Typherin laidai	Posted - 2004.12.24 10:17:00 - [1] Ok so in everyones opinion what is the best 'Combat Space Simulator' of all time ?? For at the time it came out. Now for me its gotta be the 'Wing Commander' series... Or possibly some dodgy assed game thing on I think a Spectrum or atari or somethin... cnt quite remember it entirely (was young at the time ) .. Elite .. or something like that. Whats everyone elses opinion ? And as an added note. at some point will LucasArts please allow 'SOMEONE ELSE' to make them a Star Wars space combat sim as the ones they make are Proper** generally.... Cept mebbe Star Wars X-Wing Alliance,,, Not a bad game ! Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5** 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2004.12.24 10:17:00 - [2] Ok so in everyones opinion what is the best 'Combat Space Simulator' of all time ?? For at the time it came out. Now for me its gotta be the 'Wing Commander' series... Or possibly some dodgy assed game thing on I think a Spectrum or atari or somethin... cnt quite remember it entirely (was young at the time ) .. Elite .. or something like that. Whats everyone elses opinion ? And as an added note. at some point will LucasArts please allow 'SOMEONE ELSE' to make them a Star Wars space combat sim as the ones they make are Proper** generally.... Cept mebbe Star Wars X-Wing Alliance,,, Not a bad game ! Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5** 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.12.24 10:36:00 - [3] It's tied between Elite and Tie Fighter for me. Wing Commander was very good though, remember begging my parents to upgrade to an IBM PS/2 386SX 20mhz so I could play it. :)
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.12.24 10:36:00 - [4] It's tied between Elite and Tie Fighter for me. Wing Commander was very good though, remember begging my parents to upgrade to an IBM PS/2 386SX 20mhz so I could play it. :)
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.12.24 10:42:00 - [5] R-Type. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Discorporation	Posted - 2004.12.24 10:42:00 - [6] R-Type. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Ja'kar	Posted - 2004.12.24 11:15:00 - [7] T-fighter 1st game I had on a base box with the test sound of the ship doing a flyby, ears hurt neighbors complained and mom kicked my head in, but it was well worth hearing the lasers fire with deep base JAK
Ja'kar	Posted - 2004.12.24 11:15:00 - [8] T-fighter 1st game I had on a base box with the test sound of the ship doing a flyby, ears hurt neighbors complained and mom kicked my head in, but it was well worth hearing the lasers fire with deep base JAK
Sinjin Smythe	Posted - 2004.12.24 12:10:00 - [9] Difficult to chose one. My favourites are Tie-Fighter, X-Wing Alliance, Freespace 2 and Wing Commander 3 and 4. If I have to choose, I think I would pick Wing Commander 4.
Sinjin Smythe	Posted - 2004.12.24 12:10:00 - [10] Difficult to chose one. My favourites are Tie-Fighter, X-Wing Alliance, Freespace 2 and Wing Commander 3 and 4. If I have to choose, I think I would pick Wing Commander 4.
DONTSTEALME	Posted - 2004.12.24 12:29:00 - [11] X-wing Alliance But get the feeling I've played less of these then alot in this community ------------------ KISS ME, I'M AN ALT
DONTSTEALME	Posted - 2004.12.24 12:29:00 - [12] X-wing Alliance But get the feeling I've played less of these then alot in this community ------------------ KISS ME, I'M AN ALT
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2004.12.24 15:54:00 - [13] X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter, when it came out it was just amazing. Privateer was pretty damn cool too. ----------- "Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!" Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI I have a blog
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2004.12.24 15:54:00 - [14] X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter, when it came out it was just amazing. Privateer was pretty damn cool too. ----------- "Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!" Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI I have a blog
Reynolds	Posted - 2004.12.24 16:01:00 - [15] Iwar, know as Independence War in the US Have you answered The Call?Masuat'AA Matari
Reynolds	Posted - 2004.12.24 16:01:00 - [16] Iwar, know as Independence War in the US Have you answered The Call?Masuat'AA Matari
Plim	Posted - 2004.12.24 16:31:00 - [17] Freespace 2 for teh pwn. -----------------
Plim	Posted - 2004.12.24 16:31:00 - [18] Freespace 2 for teh pwn. -----------------
Bellicose	Posted - 2004.12.24 18:40:00 - [19] well i really like star wars but all the missions was soo lame "heres a X-wing go solo a Star Destroyer" so my best must be "Freelancer" Who needs a shovel when you have a nice big cannon? KittenArmy capn' crimson
Bellicose	Posted - 2004.12.24 18:40:00 - [20] well i really like star wars but all the missions was soo lame "heres a X-wing go solo a Star Destroyer" so my best must be "Freelancer" Who needs a shovel when you have a nice big cannon? KittenArmy capn' crimson
John McCreedy	Posted - 2004.12.24 20:02:00 - [21] Elite Make a difference
John McCreedy	Posted - 2004.12.24 20:02:00 - [22] Elite Make a difference
MooKids	Posted - 2004.12.24 21:55:00 - [23] Homeworld -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
MooKids	Posted - 2004.12.24 21:55:00 - [24] Homeworld -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Xrak	Posted - 2004.12.24 22:03:00 - [25] Originally by: DONTSTEALME X-wing Alliance But get the feeling I've played less of these then alot in this community Ahh what a game. Pure utter class
Xrak	Posted - 2004.12.24 22:03:00 - [26] Originally by: DONTSTEALME X-wing Alliance But get the feeling I've played less of these then alot in this community Ahh what a game. Pure utter class
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2004.12.24 23:32:00 - [27] Originally by: Plim Freespace 2 for teh pwn. word!
Jebidus Skari	Posted - 2004.12.24 23:32:00 - [28] Originally by: Plim Freespace 2 for teh pwn. word!
Dau Imperius	Posted - 2004.12.25 09:30:00 - [29] Big tie between the Star Wars series and Wing Commander series. Anything else is not a space flight sim.
Dau Imperius	Posted - 2004.12.25 09:30:00 - [30] Big tie between the Star Wars series and Wing Commander series. Anything else is not a space flight sim.
Deidranna	Posted - 2004.12.25 09:42:00 - [31] Tie Fighter best fights ever deidranna
Deidranna	Posted - 2004.12.25 09:42:00 - [32] Tie Fighter best fights ever deidranna
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.12.25 13:39:00 - [33] Originally by: Jebidus Skari Originally by: Plim Freespace 2 for teh pwn. word! Second! Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.12.25 13:39:00 - [34] Originally by: Jebidus Skari Originally by: Plim Freespace 2 for teh pwn. word! Second! Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
RedClaws	Posted - 2004.12.25 13:45:00 - [35] Freespace 1 & 2
RedClaws	Posted - 2004.12.25 13:45:00 - [36] Freespace 1 & 2
Bared Bel'Medar	Posted - 2004.12.25 23:35:00 - [37] There is only one option: Wing Commander. Before wing commander, it was a dark age of crap and as wing commander games progressed, they got better. As an addict of space flight sims, i've played just about all of them (including the one with voice acting by bruce Cambell) and there is no debate in my mind, Freespace is less than X-Wing, X-wing is less than Privateer, and old aaron roberts must bow to his broth, Wing Commander, the greatest flight sim ever. I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer...
Bared Bel'Medar	Posted - 2004.12.25 23:35:00 - [38] There is only one option: Wing Commander. Before wing commander, it was a dark age of crap and as wing commander games progressed, they got better. As an addict of space flight sims, i've played just about all of them (including the one with voice acting by bruce Cambell) and there is no debate in my mind, Freespace is less than X-Wing, X-wing is less than Privateer, and old aaron roberts must bow to his broth, Wing Commander, the greatest flight sim ever. I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer...
Galk	Posted - 2004.12.26 01:20:00 - [39] The original startwars arcade vector. NOTHING comes close. Elite/frontier/Wingcommander 3/freelancer. Pretence to the crown. ------------------------ ---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/
Galk	Posted - 2004.12.26 01:20:00 - [40] The original startwars arcade vector. NOTHING comes close. Elite/frontier/Wingcommander 3/freelancer. Pretence to the crown. ------------------------ ---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/
Asm0dai	Posted - 2004.12.26 02:58:00 - [41] StarLancer or for the retro gamers the space ship levels of Turrican 2 (the ones with the really cool music)
Asm0dai	Posted - 2004.12.26 02:58:00 - [42] StarLancer or for the retro gamers the space ship levels of Turrican 2 (the ones with the really cool music)
Tatsue Nuko	Posted - 2004.12.26 03:40:00 - [43] Frontier: Elite 2 on the Amiga. Everything else pales in comparison, with the exception of EVE, which comes close.
Tatsue Nuko	Posted - 2004.12.26 03:40:00 - [44] Frontier: Elite 2 on the Amiga. Everything else pales in comparison, with the exception of EVE, which comes close.
Mr PeaceMaker	Posted - 2004.12.26 08:26:00 - [45] I-War and I-War 2 gotta love those physics and the games where hard i mean really hard of course after that comes Tie Fighter, Freespace 1&2, X-Wing Alliance was good. Also gotta love the wing commander series it was uber that they could make games like heart of the tiger in 1994 and price of freedom in 1995 it was 3models then not sprites anymore. Also i love Ive Found Her Babylon5 freeware game. Its uber gotta love to fly a starfury and blast stuff away.
Mr PeaceMaker	Posted - 2004.12.26 08:26:00 - [46] I-War and I-War 2 gotta love those physics and the games where hard i mean really hard of course after that comes Tie Fighter, Freespace 1&2, X-Wing Alliance was good. Also gotta love the wing commander series it was uber that they could make games like heart of the tiger in 1994 and price of freedom in 1995 it was 3models then not sprites anymore. Also i love Ive Found Her Babylon5 freeware game. Its uber gotta love to fly a starfury and blast stuff away.
Heptameron	Posted - 2004.12.26 11:18:00 - [47] Jumpgate ffs!!!! no SFS has ever come close to the space flight model on that game... sniff i miss it :(
Heptameron	Posted - 2004.12.26 11:18:00 - [48] Jumpgate ffs!!!! no SFS has ever come close to the space flight model on that game... sniff i miss it :(
Trey Azagthoth	Posted - 2004.12.28 17:47:00 - [49] Freelancer was hardcore man, hell, I bought EVE thinking it would be like Freelancer, boy was a I surprised/excited that EVE is the way it is. Goes to show ya, that you cant buy a game because u want it to be like another one you played. Freelancer for the win!!!
Trey Azagthoth	Posted - 2004.12.28 17:47:00 - [50] Freelancer was hardcore man, hell, I bought EVE thinking it would be like Freelancer, boy was a I surprised/excited that EVE is the way it is. Goes to show ya, that you cant buy a game because u want it to be like another one you played. Freelancer for the win!!!
Dirtball	Posted - 2004.12.28 21:22:00 - [51] Privateer 2 I think is the only space game I really enjoyed. Also that Fragile Allegience game, but that was an RTS.
Dirtball	Posted - 2004.12.28 21:22:00 - [52] Privateer 2 I think is the only space game I really enjoyed. Also that Fragile Allegience game, but that was an RTS.
SirIce	Posted - 2004.12.28 22:20:00 - [53] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Jebidus Skari Originally by: Plim Freespace 2 for teh pwn. word! Second! Third! <\|Fueld by metal , I live\|>
SirIce	Posted - 2004.12.28 22:20:00 - [54] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Jebidus Skari Originally by: Plim Freespace 2 for teh pwn. word! Second! Third! <\|Fueld by metal , I live\|>
JoCool	Posted - 2004.12.28 23:23:00 - [55] Edited by: JoCool on 28/12/2004 23:25:46 Elite Online which is called "JumpGate". Space Flight physics, trade system, 1st person space fighters, lots of items, lots of PvEs and carebears, lots of guns and missiles. What you'd want more? You even had parrots! Ah yes also I consider it one of the most player skill-intensive games ever made.
JoCool	Posted - 2004.12.28 23:23:00 - [56] Edited by: JoCool on 28/12/2004 23:25:46 Elite Online which is called "JumpGate". Space Flight physics, trade system, 1st person space fighters, lots of items, lots of PvEs and carebears, lots of guns and missiles. What you'd want more? You even had parrots! Ah yes also I consider it one of the most player skill-intensive games ever made.
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2004.12.29 13:14:00 - [57] I-war2 for teh win Freespace 2 second Privateer 1&2 in a close third X-wings were good, but not that good Forums: Sharks - MC
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2004.12.29 13:14:00 - [58] I-war2 for teh win Freespace 2 second Privateer 1&2 in a close third X-wings were good, but not that good Forums: Sharks - MC
IZON	Posted - 2004.12.29 13:23:00 - [59] Originally by: Heptameron Jumpgate ffs!!!! no SFS has ever come close to the space flight model on that game... sniff i miss it :( I want my Phoenix back! "...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!"
IZON	Posted - 2004.12.29 13:23:00 - [60] Originally by: Heptameron Jumpgate ffs!!!! no SFS has ever come close to the space flight model on that game... sniff i miss it :( I want my Phoenix back! "...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!"
Fuze Rogue	Posted - 2004.12.29 13:25:00 - [61] x-wing series 4tw starlancer was pretty cool too
Fuze Rogue	Posted - 2004.12.29 13:25:00 - [62] x-wing series 4tw starlancer was pretty cool too
Weebear	Posted - 2004.12.29 16:33:00 - [63] Do I get to count Mercenary? If not, Armalyte. Although I did like that old SNES game Star Fox or whatever it was called. ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
Weebear	Posted - 2004.12.29 16:33:00 - [64] Do I get to count Mercenary? If not, Armalyte. Although I did like that old SNES game Star Fox or whatever it was called. ----------------------- Honor and Serve!
Karrde CZ	Posted - 2004.12.29 16:39:00 - [65] since we're talking about space simulators, David Braben's Elite series is by far the best. As far as fun games goes, XvT, Freespace are my other favorites. Freespace had the best storyline. XvT most dogfight/missions fun. <wishing for Elite 4> .............................. 2005.03.23 05:41:55combatYour 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Mercenary Fighter, wrecking for 879.0 damage.
Karrde CZ	Posted - 2004.12.29 16:39:00 - [66] since we're talking about space simulators, David Braben's Elite series is by far the best. As far as fun games goes, XvT, Freespace are my other favorites. Freespace had the best storyline. XvT most dogfight/missions fun. <wishing for Elite 4> .............................. 2005.03.23 05:41:55combatYour 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Mercenary Fighter, wrecking for 879.0 damage.
Alternative Character	Posted - 2004.12.29 16:45:00 - [67] A small game called eve:online dunno if many of you have head of it. ---------------- Trade and Sales Gallente Trade Conglomerate
Alternative Character	Posted - 2004.12.29 16:45:00 - [68] A small game called eve:online dunno if many of you have head of it. ---------------- Trade and Sales Gallente Trade Conglomerate
JoCool	Posted - 2004.12.29 17:31:00 - [69] Quote was "best 'Combat Space Simulator' of all time ??" dunno if you've read of it
JoCool	Posted - 2004.12.29 17:31:00 - [70] Quote was "best 'Combat Space Simulator' of all time ??" dunno if you've read of it
Xelios	Posted - 2004.12.29 17:35:00 - [71] Freespace 1 and 2 by far.
Xelios	Posted - 2004.12.29 17:35:00 - [72] Freespace 1 and 2 by far.
Ghost Red	Posted - 2004.12.29 20:55:00 - [73] Rez -------------------------------------------- Misomusic!
Ghost Red	Posted - 2004.12.29 20:55:00 - [74] Rez -------------------------------------------- Misomusic!
Zibun Ionic	Posted - 2004.12.30 09:07:00 - [75] I think Frontier iz teh best. Little buggy, but when you get used to them it's just smooth game. Real, open space. Real flight model. Every planet accessible etc.. That game was just awesome space simulator.. Many other are just arcade gamez. forgive our sins that we are about to commit
Zibun Ionic	Posted - 2004.12.30 09:07:00 - [76] I think Frontier iz teh best. Little buggy, but when you get used to them it's just smooth game. Real, open space. Real flight model. Every planet accessible etc.. That game was just awesome space simulator.. Many other are just arcade gamez. forgive our sins that we are about to commit
Elrathias	Posted - 2004.12.30 13:44:00 - [77] my choice gotta be stafox for n64, i loved that game. --------------------------
Elrathias	Posted - 2004.12.30 13:44:00 - [78] my choice gotta be stafox for n64, i loved that game. --------------------------
Scroto Baggins	Posted - 2004.12.30 14:12:00 - [79] Homeworld 1. Not 2 though, even though it had better graphics, 2 was too restricting, IMO. I've played through 1 several times. Salvage corvettes rule! :) Cataclysm is also good, but counts salvaged ships against your unit cap max :( HW1 counted them against your cap, but the cap only applied to your own builds.
Scroto Baggins	Posted - 2004.12.30 14:12:00 - [80] Homeworld 1. Not 2 though, even though it had better graphics, 2 was too restricting, IMO. I've played through 1 several times. Salvage corvettes rule! :) Cataclysm is also good, but counts salvaged ships against your unit cap max :( HW1 counted them against your cap, but the cap only applied to your own builds.
Karrde CZ	Posted - 2004.12.30 16:57:00 - [81] ROTFL!!! EO and a simulation ROTFL!!!!!! oh man my stomach hurts. ;) Originally by: Alternative Character A small game called eve:online dunno if many of you have head of it. .............................. 2005.03.23 05:41:55combatYour 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Mercenary Fighter, wrecking for 879.0 damage.
Karrde CZ	Posted - 2004.12.30 16:57:00 - [82] ROTFL!!! EO and a simulation ROTFL!!!!!! oh man my stomach hurts. ;) Originally by: Alternative Character A small game called eve:online dunno if many of you have head of it. .............................. 2005.03.23 05:41:55combatYour 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Mercenary Fighter, wrecking for 879.0 damage.
Scroto Baggins	Posted - 2004.12.30 17:57:00 - [83] Yeah, the term "space sim" is probably used too loosely. Flightsim fans get mad when you call games flightsims that don't use real physics or realistic planes. But if we were to apply such a restrictive definition to space sims, then there wouldn't be many. Some other good space sims: Orbiter - About as realistic as a space sim can get. Definitely not for the faint of heart tho. One of the few space games that actually doesn't ignore the laws of physics. TREK for MS-DOS - I used to have a lot of fun playing this, but popped it in recently and for some reason it just wasn't as amazing as i remember. Gradius - Much better than Life Force, IMO. Every time I see a picture of the Easter Island stone heads, I always think they're gonna open their mouths and shoot blue circles.
Scroto Baggins	Posted - 2004.12.30 17:57:00 - [84] Yeah, the term "space sim" is probably used too loosely. Flightsim fans get mad when you call games flightsims that don't use real physics or realistic planes. But if we were to apply such a restrictive definition to space sims, then there wouldn't be many. Some other good space sims: Orbiter - About as realistic as a space sim can get. Definitely not for the faint of heart tho. One of the few space games that actually doesn't ignore the laws of physics. TREK for MS-DOS - I used to have a lot of fun playing this, but popped it in recently and for some reason it just wasn't as amazing as i remember. Gradius - Much better than Life Force, IMO. Every time I see a picture of the Easter Island stone heads, I always think they're gonna open their mouths and shoot blue circles.
Galk	Posted - 2004.12.30 18:40:00 - [85] Originally by: Scroto Baggins Yeah, the term "space sim" is probably used too loosely. Flightsim fans get mad when you call games flightsims that don't use real physics or realistic planes. But if we were to apply such a restrictive definition to space sims, then there wouldn't be many. Grand daddy of that being Frontier,,, absolute nightmare. Little more forgiving then id say probaly the best spacey combat simulation, then it's iwar2. Thats the only space combat sim that i opt for the big mother X-45 over my Topgun. ------------------------ ---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/
Galk	Posted - 2004.12.30 18:40:00 - [86] Originally by: Scroto Baggins Yeah, the term "space sim" is probably used too loosely. Flightsim fans get mad when you call games flightsims that don't use real physics or realistic planes. But if we were to apply such a restrictive definition to space sims, then there wouldn't be many. Grand daddy of that being Frontier,,, absolute nightmare. Little more forgiving then id say probaly the best spacey combat simulation, then it's iwar2. Thats the only space combat sim that i opt for the big mother X-45 over my Topgun. ------------------------ ---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/
senz	Posted - 2004.12.31 11:59:00 - [87] elite: frontier was my favourite, at least the one i played the longest (2 years?) - wing commander series was also fun, as was x-wing. the more recently ones X¦ and Freelancer were pretty much fun. EVETrance Radio - designed to enhance your flying experience.... http://radio.evesound.net:8000/evetrance.ogg.m3u
senz	Posted - 2004.12.31 11:59:00 - [88] elite: frontier was my favourite, at least the one i played the longest (2 years?) - wing commander series was also fun, as was x-wing. the more recently ones X¦ and Freelancer were pretty much fun. EVETrance Radio - designed to enhance your flying experience.... http://radio.evesound.net:8000/evetrance.ogg.m3u
fairimear	Posted - 2004.12.31 12:39:00 - [89] Freespace. Nexus the jupiter incident - best new comer. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
fairimear	Posted - 2004.12.31 12:39:00 - [90] Freespace. Nexus the jupiter incident - best new comer. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
Verone	Posted - 2004.12.31 13:04:00 - [91] Originally by: Alternative Character A small game called eve:online dunno if many of you have head of it. yeah, i'll go with this one too... COME AND SOCIALISE WITH US NASTY SNIGG BASTARDS AT : WWW.SNIGG.CJB.NET
Verone	Posted - 2004.12.31 13:04:00 - [92] Originally by: Alternative Character A small game called eve:online dunno if many of you have head of it. yeah, i'll go with this one too... COME AND SOCIALISE WITH US NASTY SNIGG BASTARDS AT : WWW.SNIGG.CJB.NET
Adhamhnon	Posted - 2005.01.01 06:15:00 - [93] Galaga for the win! Nothing better than shooting the enemy to get back your stolen space ship so you can conjoin with it. Ok I'm old... sue me.
YuuKnow	Posted - 2005.01.02 00:24:00 - [94] I'ld have to say a modded version of Homeworld2 called HW2:Point Defense System. Stunning eye-candy, complex ship design, strategic and tatical gameplay with inspiring graphics. yk
MooKids	Posted - 2005.01.02 10:05:00 - [95] Originally by: Scroto Baggins Homeworld 1. Not 2 though, even though it had better graphics, 2 was too restricting, IMO. I've played through 1 several times. Salvage corvettes rule! :) Cataclysm is also good, but counts salvaged ships against your unit cap max :( HW1 counted them against your cap, but the cap only applied to your own builds. I know I mentioned it already, but I wanted to reply to this. I also played through HW1 several times, the story was just great and the gameplay kicked ass. The first time I played through, I actually had an epic battle at the final level, where I was about to lose, then suddenly reinforcements appear to save the day! I also went a bit crazy on the salvage corvettes, but the game is so much better once you stop relying on captured units and just use your own built ones. I usually just recycle the captured ships, unless it is a special unlocked ship, like a carrier or missile destroyer. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Fraggie	Posted - 2005.01.02 11:21:00 - [96] 1st: Mankind 2nd: Eve ofcourse :P
JoCool	Posted - 2005.01.02 14:37:00 - [97] Eve and Mankind are no "Combat space simulators" they're "Live in space simulators". In Combat space simulators you start in a spacecraft with guns, shields and missiles, fly 2 minutes and get hostiles and action. In Eve there's much more to it, it's an entire world, thus always > Combat space simulators.
j0sephine	Posted - 2005.01.02 16:44:00 - [98] Edited by: j0sephine on 02/01/2005 16:44:55 "Ok so in everyones opinion what is the best 'Combat Space Simulator' of all time ?? For at the time it came out." I-War 2; excellent ship setup system, and flight/combat model which was a really nice mix of 'real' and 'fun' (very functional HUD didn't hurt, either) And well, 'tis about only space game where you can really pirate ships and steal their cargo. ;p
Wild Rho	Posted - 2005.01.02 18:48:00 - [99] For action mine was the Freespace games, great story that was very well presented, great missions, nice controls and the combat was fast and frentic. For simple size and scope (escpiecally for it's time) the old elite games. While the last 2 were buggy I don't see games like eve being around now if it wasn't for elite. For simple looks Nexus is stunning to watch and pretty good to play. I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it...
Daniel Jackson	Posted - 2005.01.03 03:59:00 - [100] ya this is the best space sim Caldari will once again rise above the gallente and take back Caldari prime! Image done by Denrace
Doug	Posted - 2005.01.03 07:16:00 - [101] "Epic" On ye olde amiga 500, damm that game was a classic. ----------------------------------------------
CHORT	Posted - 2005.01.03 14:27:00 - [102] I-War2 - best singleplayer combat spacesim ! Jumpgate - still the best online "elite-like" spacesim .
Tadius Rhain	Posted - 2005.01.03 14:46:00 - [103] Originally by: Discorporation R-Type. :`) Which one? Sega. Original. ____________________________________________ Ideas Lab - Forum Search Feature - Sign me!
Karrde CZ	Posted - 2005.01.03 15:23:00 - [104] Edited by: Karrde CZ on 03/01/2005 15:25:41 Edited by: Karrde CZ on 03/01/2005 15:24:03 Wow, someone who actually heard of Mankind. I love that game. Too bad their support sucks. Mankind is the best space RTS game idea I've seen since Reunion. Anyways, I wouldn't classify Mankind and EvE as space simulations. There are no space flight models. EvE has no physics - it has hacks to create illusions of physics presence. I mean come on guys, remember back in the days where you could fly through asteroids? You could mine INSIDE the rock... wtf? and how can projectiles fly through asteroids, and hit a 150km target within a few miliseconds after being fired.... .... i don't know were the simulation is here. Market... there is no simulation either. It's just a tool for the users (us). If it was a simulated market, then the NPC would interact as well. Sorry, I just dont see EvE as a sim. It's barely an RPG. Originally by: Fraggie 1st: Mankind 2nd: Eve ofcourse :P .............................. 2005.03.23 05:41:55combatYour 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Mercenary Fighter, wrecking for 879.0 damage.
Stregone	Posted - 2005.01.03 23:08:00 - [105] I-war 2 is the best. The physics and the controls were awesome. It made fighter sized fights close in knife fights, you didn't really fly forward so much, you orbited your enemy almost always facing him, jinking and juking and spinning and spiraling around each other in all 3 dimentions, all the while throwing hot plasma at each other. Man that rocked.
Slithereen	Posted - 2005.01.04 01:41:00 - [106] Edited by: Slithereen on 04/01/2005 01:43:55 Control and physics --- Iwar2 Immersion factor --- Freelancer, Privateer 2 The ability to do everything --- X BTF and X2 The Threat Best Omigod feeling when you finish the game --- Homeworld, Freepace 1 & 2 Playability --- Freelancer, Freespace 1/2 Best team combat --- Allegiance, Darkspace Prettiest ships --- Homeworld, Cataclysm, Homeworld 2 Most unforgettable ship design --- Dreadnaught Corvette of IWar; Hiigaran Mothership of Homeworld, HW2. Best musical scores --- Homeworld, Homeworld 2. Best "I am so isolated in deep space" feeling---Homeworld, EVE. Best ever mission design in a space game---the three missions in the Garden of Kadesh in Homeworld. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
hired goon	Posted - 2005.01.04 12:46:00 - [107] Slithereen, I have noticed a typo in your post. Where you wrote "Prettiest ships" you put "Homeworld, Cataclysm, Homeworld 2" instead of "Nexus: The Jupiter Incident" Infact, as far as space-croissaints go, the Inquisitor looks better than the Dreadnaught in Cataclysm :p Originally by: Doug "Epic" On ye olde amiga 500, damm that game was a classic. lol! Isn't that the prequel to Inferno? I could never run it, only had 512k on my A500 :( needed 1mb didn't it? :D ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
ZeeWolf	Posted - 2005.01.05 10:54:00 - [108] The Homeworld Series (HW, Cataclysm, HW2)
Mjolnir	Posted - 2005.01.05 12:07:00 - [109] Asteroids is teh own Which PA character are you?
UndergrounD	Posted - 2005.01.05 18:47:00 - [110] ELite, although most EvE players would have been too young to play it -----------------------------------------------
Feta Solamnia	Posted - 2005.01.05 22:50:00 - [111] Iwar, the only game that made me wanna make love to me for beeing such an uber pilot with thrusters
Andrewza	Posted - 2005.01.06 01:45:00 - [112] I-War/I-War 2, both looked fantastic for their time, both had proper physics, nothing like cutting throttle assist and strafing the larger ships firing down their whole length. Have to agree about the I-war 2 HUD, a little while and a good HAT switch and you could just do everything from the joystick. How I wish I could fly my ships in EVE like that.
Ursula Lictuz	Posted - 2005.01.06 04:27:00 - [113] Originally by: Dirtball Privateer 2 I think is the only space game I really enjoyed. Also that Fragile Allegience game, but that was an RTS. Privateer 2 most definatly. Combining space RTS with a little role-playing, best ever. Many other come into mind, but this one is the only one worth mentioning Urs -------- Religion is crowd control and I have the freedom to choose wether I follow it or not. Do you want to be ruled more?
Plim	Posted - 2005.01.06 05:10:00 - [114] Damn i've only mentioned Freespace 2 once in this thread. All hail Freespace 2! -----------------
Che Hermez	Posted - 2005.01.06 11:15:00 - [115] definitly ELITE, i still play it on my amiga sometimes! PER SCIENCIA AD ASTRA ETHICS IS JUST ANOTHER EXCUSE TO STAY WEAK
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2005.01.06 11:45:00 - [116] The original, BBC model B version of Elite (floppy disk edition). Apart from that, I've always had a hankering to get hold of a PDP-1 so that I can play SpaceWar. Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Veantur	Posted - 2005.01.07 06:09:00 - [117] wing commander
Everay	Posted - 2005.01.07 06:48:00 - [118] StarLancer was really good. Freespace 2 was good, but i hated that my wingmates were blown up in seconds and that the starfighter squadrens werent as big as they were in Tie Fighter. Tie Fighter. someone said something earlyer about Nexus the Jupiter Incident, indeed, it does look alot better than homeworld 2, doesnt lag my comp like homeworld 2 either. very fun game.
fairimear	Posted - 2005.01.19 12:22:00 - [119] FREESPACE AND NEXUS 4TW. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2005.01.19 12:33:00 - [120] Wing Commander
Boonaki	Posted - 2005.01.19 16:21:00 - [121] X-wing was pretty sweet, first game I ever bought for my 486 SX 25. Freespace 2 has to be my all time fav though. Fear the Ibis of doom.
Grievance	Posted - 2005.01.19 18:11:00 - [122] hmm, i liked privateer 2: the darkening, with Clive Owen playing Ser Lev Arris. Loved that game, and since then, clive owen has been dubbed 'the privateer guy' by me and my brothers, since he was in the game way way before he was launched into fame and fortune. 'A man with a passion for Pirate fashion.'
Scroto Baggins	Posted - 2005.01.19 18:51:00 - [123] Stars! and VGA Planets 4 are t3h pWNZ0rZ... I'm often playing one of them and Eve at the same time.
Thotamon	Posted - 2005.01.20 07:38:00 - [124] I have played about all the wing commander games, frontier elite first encounters, i have X2, battlecruiser millenium gold but haven't played either. My vote goes to elite, hated the buggs that prevented you from loading savegames but the game had that special feeling and enormous freedom.
Feta Solamnia	Posted - 2005.01.20 18:30:00 - [125] don't forget the word "simulation" Nothing has ever come close to the simulation the I-wars gave.
Quantum Ghost	Posted - 2005.01.20 22:49:00 - [126] My favs in no order are. BBC B Elite Freespace 2 Wing Commander 3&4 But as to the best? It's the I-War games for me all the way. Games where great Story rocked Community is still good even now some 4 or 5 years after the last game. There are people who have modded I-War2 to be basicly Elite in DX8 with Physics and wingmen :D Check out the forums here if you were a fan On a side note the I-War community are currently trying to track down the games IPR so they can purchase the source ! -QG In Game - 'Shop@hdy' Web Site - www.hadean.org
Jalia Kovac	Posted - 2005.01.21 01:15:00 - [127] No contest. Elite. For overall impact, quality of gameplay, addictiveness and for being so far ahead of its time. Braben and Bell were geniuses!
Hellena	Posted - 2005.01.21 02:13:00 - [128] Originally by: Discorporation R-Type. ALL the way.used to play that on my super nintendo all the time..loved it. Not Just Another Pretty Face La Maison Hostess
Erai	Posted - 2005.01.21 10:39:00 - [129] Gotta go for Elite... with Wingcommander as a good second. With both games I was totally agape over something like even being possible with computers! After three or four hours of playing Elite I would be so drenched in sweat that I would not be allowed at the dinner table before taking a shower... good times ------------------------------------------ My bio
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.01.21 12:59:00 - [130] I-War 1 and 2 : Physics, Graphics,British, Storyline and (in Iwar 1) one of the best opening movies I've seen in a Game Starlancer : You could interact with your Ship between missions, and the Dialog changed depending on how well you did Freelancer : Because it's nice to play a space sim that doesn't make me have to clear out my desk to set my Saitek X45 up X2 The Threat : It tries so hard ! Tachyon - The Fringe : Good Storyline, good graphics for its age, choosing a faction and getting different ships EVE Online : Well it's more like a piece of fine art then a space sim, but IMO the best space ship design Freespace 1/2: Graphics, Storyline, CGI and Immersion - They could make a film about the Conflict freespace storyline - and the opening movies are amazing for their time
IZON	Posted - 2005.01.21 17:11:00 - [131] Elite: Where the dreams began, damn those thargoids! Jumpgate: The best and still the truest online fight combat sim out there. Homeworld (1 & 2): Online and offline for proving that there is another way. "...master! there's a guy in the south village called IZON, he is a Ninja!"
Skogen Gump	Posted - 2005.01.21 17:25:00 - [132] Oops, I forget to mention Wing Commander Prophecy
Dexter Rast	Posted - 2005.01.22 02:01:00 - [133] the ELITE games by far simulate space the most, it was simulated down to a fine scientific art when ELITE frontier and ELITE first encounters were released, 100% playability, 100% realistic, and guess what, you could actually crash into planets in those games ---------------------------------------------
DoctorDanny	Posted - 2005.01.22 17:12:00 - [134] Elite.
Fasute Sethnakte	Posted - 2005.01.23 16:36:00 - [135] Privateer... Pentonville to Constantinople Brilliance running became an occupation, not a hobby. ______ SPCS Board Of Advisors Member (Science)
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2005.01.23 21:28:00 - [136] x2 and nothing else. ______________________ Pod from above.
The Pie	Posted - 2005.01.24 03:44:00 - [137] Freelancer. Boy she's a doozie.
Eleska	Posted - 2005.01.25 03:51:00 - [138] freespace 2
Kanonus	Posted - 2005.01.25 08:04:00 - [139] Wing commander! I didn¦t have any pc myself but my neighbours hate me so much in the end so the put a pc in my home in the end hahaha Wing commander 2...still have memories then i play the miditune
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.01.25 15:53:00 - [140] Freespace 2 + I would also vote for it for the best story line of any game EVER. ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health
Zothike	Posted - 2005.01.25 16:45:00 - [141] Space Empire IV, turn by turn space empire management, graphically it's a joke but the gameplay and system is Great hard to start and handle at first but after hey you can spend days/weeks playing one party try it! http://www.malfador.com/se4.html they seems to work on a Space Empire IV with better graphics (not hard) http://www.malfador.com/se5/se5main.html
Vigilant	Posted - 2005.01.26 22:30:00 - [142] X2 the Threat and FreeLancer for single player games... Eve and FreeLancer on-line Star Lancer was a blast, just to run around an blow stuff up... I-War was just too damm complicated for me...Seemed you have way too much crap to learn, just to have some fun...
Caldorous	Posted - 2005.01.26 22:53:00 - [143] the original X-Wing, or TIE Fighter ----------------------------- 2005.03.13 01:11:29combatYour 350mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Asteroid (Veldspar), wrecking for 0.0 damage.
TauTut	Posted - 2005.01.26 22:56:00 - [144] Elite (Acorn Electron version) :) -TT Background
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2005.01.27 02:00:00 - [145] How the hell can people claim "elite" is the best ever space sim? The game looks like someone drew it in paint for gods sakes. Fair enough, you might have had fun with it when you were 7 years old, and it might have been groundbreaking and original at the time, but since then the same concept has been redone a million times better (graphics with more then 3 colors for example). I want to know how people nominating "elite" are thinking, so please enlighten me to why an 20 year old space sim is better then modern space sims like freelancer. ______________________ Pod from above.
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.01.27 07:55:00 - [146] Originally by: Admiral Pieg How the hell can people claim "elite" is the best ever space sim? The game looks like someone drew it in paint for gods sakes. Fair enough, you might have had fun with it when you were 7 years old, and it might have been groundbreaking and original at the time, but since then the same concept has been redone a million times better (graphics with more then 3 colors for example). I want to know how people nominating "elite" are thinking, so please enlighten me to why an 20 year old space sim is better then modern space sims like freelancer. This a vote for the best space sim of all time. . . When Elite was released it was revolutionary , name a game that has come out since that has been a 'Omg look at that'. if a new game comes out now we 'Expect' good graphics.... Ok so elite is NEVER going to win a best graphics award ... But as you have stated, it paved the way for a whole generation of space sims. So it gets my vote. ohhh and Wingcommander pwnd Typherin LaiDai Care Negotitations Expert level 5 'Give me a position of power and I'l abuse it in an instant'
Oosel	Posted - 2005.01.27 16:21:00 - [147] just because it brings back such good memories of my childhood......elite then followed by starlancer but eve more than took over from elite it evolved the whole concept
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2005.01.27 23:22:00 - [148] Originally by: Typherin laidai Originally by: Admiral Pieg How the hell can people claim "elite" is the best ever space sim? The game looks like someone drew it in paint for gods sakes. Fair enough, you might have had fun with it when you were 7 years old, and it might have been groundbreaking and original at the time, but since then the same concept has been redone a million times better (graphics with more then 3 colors for example). I want to know how people nominating "elite" are thinking, so please enlighten me to why an 20 year old space sim is better then modern space sims like freelancer. This a vote for the best space sim of all time. . . When Elite was released it was revolutionary , name a game that has come out since that has been a 'Omg look at that'. if a new game comes out now we 'Expect' good graphics.... Ok so elite is NEVER going to win a best graphics award ... But as you have stated, it paved the way for a whole generation of space sims. So it gets my vote. ohhh and Wingcommander pwnd Well, yes thats true but, being revolutionary isnt an criteria for being the best ever space sim in my opinion. It simply has to be entertaining wich elite isnt. ______________________ Pod from above.
w0rmy	Posted - 2005.01.28 00:21:00 - [149] Edited by: w0rmy on 28/01/2005 00:23:06 Originally by: IZON I want my Phoenix back! You can have that when they un nerf my PCE3!!!! Oh and Jumpgate ftw! There is NOTHING that can even compare to Jumpgates flight engine, the PVP... nothing comes even close!
Daakkon	Posted - 2005.01.29 09:25:00 - [150] Edited by: Daakkon on 29/01/2005 09:24:59 Originally by: w0rmy Jumpgate ftw! There is NOTHING that can even compare to Jumpgates PVP... nothing comes even close! eve surpasses jumpages pvp tbh www.dark-cartel.com
Karrde CZ	Posted - 2005.02.09 21:25:00 - [151] EvE PvP is just a bunch of clicking. There are no piloting skills involved :(. .............................. 2005.03.23 05:41:55combatYour 720mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes Mercenary Fighter, wrecking for 879.0 damage.
Azure Skyclad	Posted - 2005.02.10 01:10:00 - [152] Jefferson Clay The Bad Asses "Bad Ass" La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs Star Fraction http://www.voodoorockers.co.uk/

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