since Mining ships are still allowed in HiSec

true problem identified

Lots of p!ssy suicide gankers been saying that Hulks should just tank better to prevent "most" ganks.
None of them have shown this is possible.

Please indulge me with the following ->
List a gank-proof fit that can still allow the ship to do its base function for a reasonable profit.

Requirements:
- Fit must protect against at least TWO properly fit catalysts for 20 seconds OR ONE battleship for 10 seconds.
- Must be able to mine at least 75% of its potential yield.

This is based off Concord times since Mining ships are still allowed in HiSec and te obvious nature of the attack takes this into account. Thank you.

...nobody has said that current hulks can be made totally ungankable.

That isn't what he asked for.

He asked for a gank-proof fit.

He asked for a gank-proof fit.

as long as you're not afk mining

True but he clarified with the following

Requirements:
- Fit must protect against at least TWO properly fit catalysts for 20 seconds OR ONE battleship for 10 seconds.
- Must be able to mine at least 75% of its potential yield.

I clarified that a player must way the risk vs the reward. If you want good yield you have to make a choice, either fit for yield or fit for tank...you can't have both. Just like any ship you fly in EVE - you have to make choices on how you wish to fit them.

Hell why not, right off the top of my head.

Fit one DCII, reinforced bulk head II, two invuln II's and one rig medium core defense field extender - with the right skills that gives you decent tank that most gankers will not even attempt to hit in two catalyst - let alone 1. If you are not AFK, overheat your invulns and you're easily pushing 25k EHP and this isn't even a fully tanked hulk!

I clarified that a player must way the risk vs the reward. If you want good yield you have to make a choice, either fit for yield or fit for tank...you can't have both. Just like any ship you fly in EVE - you have to make choices on how you wish to fit them.

Hell why not, right off the top of my head.

Fit one DCII, reinforced bulk head II, two invuln II's and one rig medium core defense field extender - with the right skills that gives you decent tank that most gankers will not even attempt to hit in two catalyst - let alone 1. If you are not AFK, overheat your invulns and you're easily pushing 25k EHP and this isn't even a fully tanked hulk!

ou're an idiot first off. Second, nobody has said that current hulks can be made totally ungankable. Plus, it is a matter of you the player making a choice. If you choose not to use the tools to tank your hulk and decide you want yield instead - go ahead and do it, just be aware that you are opening yourself up for a gank.

Right, miners couldn't be troubled to fit their barges and exhumers with tanks - system all ready in place that would stop almost all ganks besides the ones that really - really - really -wanted to pop you. And you are telling us to Adapt or Die? Now that is ironic.

Maybe you should stick to making sandwiches...

true problem identified

LOL - If Im an idiot, then you take stupid to a whole new level...

As a matter of fact... YOU said, hulks could be made ungankable.
You may want to review your OWN post in this thread -
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136774&p=17



LOL - And yes, you still failed to answer the post correctly.

LOL - If Im an idiot, then you take stupid to a whole new level...

As a matter of fact... YOU said, hulks could be made ungankable.
You may want to review your OWN post in this thread -
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=136774&p=17



LOL - And yes, you still failed to answer the post correctly.

Still waiting Ginsing...

Not really a hulk pilot but as long as you're not afk mining I think this would work.

[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

EM Ward Amplifier II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

It's a tight fit. You give up 14% yield by loseing the lows to power grid mods. The tank is as follows.

EHP 20,514
75em
65 th
73kn
75ex

You can change the resists around, I'm just assuming they are going to use EM ammo. Of course the best defense is to be over far away from the warp in for the belt, be passively aligned, be watching D-Scan for combat probes or common ganking ships, and warp out at the first sign of trouble.

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster.

I clarified that a player must way the risk vs the reward. If you want good yield you have to make a choice, either fit for yield or fit for tank...you can't have both. Just like any ship you fly in EVE - you have to make choices on how you wish to fit them.

Hell why not, right off the top of my head.

Fit one DCII, reinforced bulk head II, two invuln II's and one rig medium core defense field extender - with the right skills that gives you decent tank that most gankers will not even attempt to hit in two catalyst - let alone 1. If you are not AFK, overheat your invulns and you're easily pushing 25k EHP and this isn't even a fully tanked hulk!

...and this will still be the case after the proposed changes go in to effect. There will also be no such thing as a gank-proof hulk after the expansion.

Not really a hulk pilot but as long as you're not afk mining I think this would work.

[Hulk, New Setup 1]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

EM Ward Amplifier II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

It's a tight fit. You give up 14% yield by loseing the lows to power grid mods. The tank is as follows.

EHP 20,514
75em
65 th
73kn
75ex

You can change the resists around, I'm just assuming they are going to use EM ammo. Of course the best defense is to be over far away from the warp in for the belt, be passively aligned, be watching D-Scan for combat probes or common ganking ships, and warp out at the first sign of trouble.