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Thayadin
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Posted - 2010.08.31 19:05:00 -
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Just a question.
Can they scam you, and take all your stuff or is this thing legit.
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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services
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Posted - 2010.08.31 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Awesome Possum on 31/08/2010 19:07:59
of course they CAN scam you and take anything you give them.
Will they? Maybe someday, but not today.
edit: i support and vouch EOH myself, for now.
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.31 20:19:00 -
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Of course they can scam you.
However, I have used it and they are in my experience trustworthy.
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.08.31 20:27:00 -
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I don't personally play it, but I know several people who do regularly. They have not scammed anybody yet.
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Cobora
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Posted - 2010.08.31 20:34:00 -
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I've been playing for years now. I support them and thank the players for being the main contributors to my wallet :)
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Daisuke Aoki
Gallente
Independent Coalition
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.31 20:50:00 -
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It's legit.
It's not a CCP service or anything, it's run by some Eve players, but it's been going for years and they've earned a reputation as trustworthy.
Of course, there's the potential on any given day someone says "**** it" and steals all the ISK on their end, but that's a potential risk with any player-run operation.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.08.31 20:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Cobora
I've been playing for years now. I support them and thank the players for being the main contributors to my wallet :)
Isn't it funny how every gambler claims to always 'come out on top' ?
EOH is pretty cool tho
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Hari Markkus
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2010.08.31 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Isn't it funny how every gambler claims to always 'come out on top' ?
No, it is not funny, it is a bit sad really.
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Exploriosoette
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Posted - 2010.08.31 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Exploriosoette on 31/08/2010 21:24:19
Texas Holdem Poker, when played by experienced players, is a game of skill, not a game of pure chance.
It is not purely gambling.
And before you ask, yes, I am a damn good player and know what im talking about.
Now GET OFF MY LAWN nub.
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2010.08.31 21:54:00 -
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EOH poker is legit, it's not (thus far) a scam. I played it.
That said, EOH poker is a somewhat poor texas holdem experience. The way their system deals with the cards, results in what should be "rare" hands occurring far to commonly. To be honest, I quit playing precisely because it's no longer a game of skill when certain hands happen to commonly. It's kinda like playing with a couple of wilds. It's still fun, and it's still cards, but it's not the same game as what I consider "texas hold-em" until they fix their system.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.08.31 23:50:00 -
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Well, everyone else say that it's legit, but I've never got that 10mil ISK added to my EOH account when I tried to join it. And, yeah... I've triple checked that I've entered everything correctly.
It was probably a "glitch in the billing system", but I can't be bothered to try it out again. (Not that I have time to play now anyway ).
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Thoraxe Rig
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.01 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik
Well, everyone else say that it's legit, but I've never got that 10mil ISK added to my EOH account when I tried to join it. And, yeah... I've triple checked that I've entered everything correctly.
It was probably a "glitch in the billing system", but I can't be bothered to try it out again. (Not that I have time to play now anyway).
Probably an honest glitch.
'Cause lets face it, 10Mill isn't anywhere near enough to risk their rep on is it? 
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.09.01 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Exploriosoette
Edited by: Exploriosoette on 31/08/2010 21:24:19
Texas Holdem Poker, when played by experienced players, is a game of skill, not a game of pure chance.
It is not purely gambling.
And before you ask, yes, I am a damn good player and know what im talking about.
Now GET OFF MY LAWN nub.
Please explain why poker 'Legends' are now getting rolled by nobodies who just started playing online a few months before. Should have just kept the amateurs away from them, in order to perpetuate the fantasy of skill being a major factor.
I know there's tricks to it, like everything, but it still all boils down to luck if they work or not.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.09.01 00:42:00 -
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They haven't scammed anyone yet.
Everything in EVE online is a scam. Some just haven't been revealed as such yet.
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JC Anderson
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.09.01 00:43:00 -
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As everybody else said, it's legit.
Hell CCP even allowed them to run advertisements during AT8.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.01 01:49:00 -
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the site itself is legit but people cheat via collusion.
they charge a 10% rake, which is ****ing ridiculous.
When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me. |
San Severina
Minmatar
The Deadbeats
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Posted - 2010.09.01 02:02:00 -
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It's all legit & trustworthy in my experience, been playing for a few months without a problem. All transactions are spot on and verified, I recommend this product if you like Hold 'em Poker & I do!
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.09.01 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
the site itself is legit but people cheat via collusion.
they charge a 10% rake, which is ****ing ridiculous.
This.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Tavin Aikisen
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.09.01 03:19:00 -
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Been playing EOH for months and months now. Never had a problem. They are well known in-game and even have some nifty ads in the EON magazine.
Come Incarna, I hope we can play it in-game.
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Sabine Demsky
Failed Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.09.01 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
the site itself is legit but people cheat via collusion.
they charge a 10% rake, which is ****ing ridiculous.
For everything above a 54m game its 5%.
Trust me, i am a Senior banker there =)
Join Channels "EOH Games" and "EOH Poker" and enjoy some texas hold'em. 
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Bacchanalian
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.09.01 03:27:00 -
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FWIW, I played poker at a 3/6 limit table in Vegas last time I was there and the rake was 10%. It's not as outrageous as it seems if you're winning.
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.09.01 03:29:00 -
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Edited by: Selene D''Celeste on 01/09/2010 03:31:22
Sabine pointed me here, and I wanted to say thanks for the kind words. It's always good to ask around and investigate yourself before trying anything new in EVE (including EOH) because, as you can see, opinions do indeed vary =D
I did want to respond to this post though:
Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik
Well, everyone else say that it's legit, but I've never got that 10mil ISK added to my EOH account when I tried to join it. And, yeah... I've triple checked that I've entered everything correctly.
It was probably a "glitch in the billing system", but I can't be bothered to try it out again. (Not that I have time to play now anyway).
I try to keep anything, even a few million ISK, from slipping through the cracks. Our tools are much better at catching mistakes these days as well. The proper way to have things like this addressed is to make a help ticket via the Help Desk on the website (viewable once you log in), and provide useful information (character depositing, deposit time, deposit amount, etc). I work through the stack of tickets at least a couple of times a week and reset passwords and track down deposits as needed.
The bottom line is even though we try, sometimes mistakes happen, but I won't know unless someone tells me!
Edit: In addition to what Sabine said above on rakes, all ring tables other than the beginners tables are raked 3-5% with 2 x BB caps. I think the highest demigod table is 2.5% as well.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.09.01 04:21:00 -
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*chuckles*
Someone's asking if a gambling game is legit or a scam? Don't you realise that gambling is the most legitimate scam on the planet, short of girls getting guys to buy them drinks down at the pub.
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Bud Tugly
Empire Arms Dealers
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Posted - 2010.09.01 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn
*chuckles*
Someone's asking if a gambling game is legit or a scam? Don't you realise that gambling is the most legitimate scam on the planet, short of girls getting guys to buy them drinks down at the pub.
In poker, you're not betting against the house, you're playing against other players. In games where you bet against the house, the odds are never in your favor. On a long enough timeline, you will lose it all.
In games against other players, you're only as good as your skill vs. the skill of your opponents. So it's not really a "scam" form a gambling. Luck does play a factor, but not so much as other games.
In poker, the new players don't realize how much skill is involved, and the old players tend to forget how much luck is involved.
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Serax
Rise Rebel Resist
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Posted - 2010.09.01 08:24:00 -
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if you're playing in a tourney with a few people there's a very good chance a few of them are on vent calling the best hands and stuff, easy money. |
Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services
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Posted - 2010.09.01 13:53:00 -
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Would love to see Omaha, or well any other flavour, added to EOH. I prefer it to Texas. v0v
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Guttripper
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.09.01 14:16:00 -
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As a relatively new player (eight months old), I have played the free roll tournament games and have come in second place twice and third place once (along with fourth place and lower). The top three positions will pay in chips which can be converted into ISK. So while I have 1100 chips currently in game (or 110,000,000 ISK converted into Eve), I have cashed out part of my first winnings and gained 50,000,000 without spending one ISK.
So perhaps I am scamming them!  *joking*
*still steamed about not winning first place this past Sunday and missing out on the bonus prize of a Firetail. Yes, someone was giving away a ship to the first place winner and I lucked out being the last one to loose...
I support EOH Poker 110%!
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.01 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cipher Jones on 01/09/2010 15:46:15
Edited by: Cipher Jones on 01/09/2010 15:41:11
Originally by: Bacchanalian
FWIW, I played poker at a 3/6 limit table in Vegas last time I was there and the rake was 10%. It's not as outrageous as it seems if you're winning.
It varies on EOH from 20% to 5%.
Whatever's clever.
On the bright side there are noobs just throwing away money there.
When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me. |
Agent Known
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Posted - 2010.09.01 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Exploriosoette
Edited by: Exploriosoette on 31/08/2010 21:24:19
Texas Holdem Poker, when played by experienced players, is a game of skill, not a game of pure chance.
It is not purely gambling.
And before you ask, yes, I am a damn good player and know what im talking about.
Now GET OFF MY LAWN nub.
Please explain why poker 'Legends' are now getting rolled by nobodies who just started playing online a few months before. Should have just kept the amateurs away from them, in order to perpetuate the fantasy of skill being a major factor.
I know there's tricks to it, like everything, but it still all boils down to luck if they work or not.
Not really. Texas Hold'em was perfected by math and probability. If you can count cards and know how the math works you can win games easily. The "Legends" never had the technology to mathematically "solve" poker or the ability to play/simulate thousands of games. Welcome to technology.
On another note, I also have an annoying sig. |
EOH Sneaky
Eve Online Hold'Em
ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.09.01 16:27:00 -
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In addition to what Selene (The owner, for those of you who didn't know) has already said, id like to add that we take collusion very seriously - and in most cases where it affects the game play, it is caught and dealt with swiftly and decisively. If, while you are playing you suspect players of colluding, please report it to the banker on duty who can be found in the EOH Games channel.
I'd also like to address this:
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Bacchanalian
FWIW, I played poker at a 3/6 limit table in Vegas last time I was there and the rake was 10%. It's not as outrageous as it seems if you're winning.
It varies on EOH from 20% to 5%.
Whatever's clever.
On the bright side there are noobs just throwing away money there.
Details on the amounts raked from various game times are available to view here. As you can see, the highest raked game is the lowest stakes tournament we provide - 28mil, which is raked 3mil (8.3%). Aside from that, and 54m games, all tournament games are raked 5%. the only exception to this is special event games, such as ship games, which are usually raked around 10%.
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