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Ziania	Posted - 2010.09.02 00:32:00 - [31] Edited by: Ziania on 02/09/2010 00:32:25 Originally by: Musical Fist On the plus side I have been having alot of fun in WHs and lowsec, the only time I see 0.0 is when a WH takes me there or when I need to rat on my razor alt because really what other reason is there to log on a 0.0 char anymore? Welcome to the retired Napsec veterans association. There is cake and pie in the lounge. Be sure to ask about the discounted rates on term life insurance.
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 00:49:00 - [32] Edited by: Musical Fist on 02/09/2010 00:49:31 Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Musical Fist I HATE THE NC AND ITS EATING ME INSIDE Why can't you post your **** in CAOD? I mean, seriously. We get it. You hate the NC and you want CCP to destroy them for you. What is it you're trying to accomplish by spamming GD with "IHATE THE NC I HATE THE NC I HATE THE NC!1!"? Are you hoping CCP will get so fed up and tired of you that they will smite the NC for you? I normally dont say this since its been used by almost everyone over the past 5 years but, U MAD? -- Recruitment now open!!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.02 01:07:00 - [33] Originally by: Musical Fist U MAD? You know what? Actually yes. I am mad. I'm mad at the NC. I'm mad they're owning you. I'm mad that they're making you so mad that you're making it your personal goal to spam the GD with your "I HATE THE NC" crap. FFS, can the NC PLEEASE give this dude some kills? PLEASE?!? Let him kill some NCs. I'm begging the NC to please let him win one. For the General Discussion's sake! Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 01:11:00 - [34] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Musical Fist U MAD? You know what? Actually yes. I am mad. I'm mad at the NC. I'm mad they're owning you. I'm mad that they're making you so mad that you're making it your personal goal to spam the GD with your "I HATE THE NC" crap. FFS, can the NC PLEEASE give this dude some kills? PLEASE?!? Let him kill some NCs. I'm begging the NC to please let him win one. For the General Discussion's sake! Relax Sophita, besides my issue is about NAPs it is no surprise NC get brought up since well they now are 80% of 0.0 in terms of population. -- Recruitment now open!!
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.02 01:20:00 - [35] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 02/09/2010 01:26:28 Originally by: Musical Fist Relax Sophita, besides my issue is about NAPs it is no surprise NC get brought up since well they now are 80% of 0.0 in terms of population. I think it's pretty clear that your bitterness goes beyond NAPs. I think it's obvious you're fighting (and losing) against the NC. You admit yourself you have more fun playing in the South and in WHs. Yet, week after week you're here, spamming GD with your hateful rhetoric against the NC instead of having some fun and enjoying what you do like. You think you're fooling people by coating your bitterness and whines with the word 'NAP'. In reality, you're ****ed the NC is owning you. And not only are they owning you, but their pets, and their friends are too. Week after week, it seems. Why don't you post what fail alliance you're in and at least like that we can determine what your faults are and try to help you? Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if your alliance applied to be part of the NC NAP and got rejected. After all, if you believe it's so easy for the NC to NAP, you probably already would have tried that to sabotage them. But it probably didn't work out too well for ya. And now here we are in GD, having to hear you cry week after week :(. You just won't stop. It won't end and now you're making me very very mad . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.09.02 01:34:00 - [36] I am detecting large quantities of drama in this sector. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 01:54:00 - [37] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 02/09/2010 01:27:22 Originally by: Musical Fist Relax Sophita, besides my issue is about NAPs it is no surprise NC get brought up since well they now are 80% of 0.0 in terms of population. I think it's pretty clear that your bitterness goes beyond NAPs. I think it's obvious you're fighting (and losing) against the NC. You admit yourself you have more fun playing in the South and in WHs. Yet, week after week you're here, spamming GD with your hateful rhetoric against the NC instead of having some fun and enjoying what you do like. You think you're fooling people by coating your bitterness and whines with the word 'NAP'. In reality, you're ****ed the NC is owning you. And not only are they owning you, but their pets, and their friends are too. Week after week, it seems. Why don't you post what fail alliance you're in and at least like that we can determine what your faults are and try to help you? Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if your alliance applied to be part of the NC NAP and got rejected. After all, if you believe it's so easy for the NC to NAP, you probably already would have tried that to sabotage them. But that didn't work out too well, did it. And now here we are in GD, having to hear you cry week after week :(. You just won't stop. It won't end and now you're making me very very mad . I cant believe you got angry over this thread, jesus christ woman get a grip, at least save the dramatic emorage for the assembly hall ones. -- Recruitment now open!!
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2010.09.02 01:58:00 - [38] Kill mails in my log, enemies taking potshots at me. 0.0's dead? THE RULES of PvP'ing with Aiwha 1. Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. 2. When it does go wrong, it's probably Aiwha's fault. 3. If it's not Aiwha's fault, it soon will be
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 02:25:00 - [39] Originally by: Aiwha Kill mails in my log, enemies taking potshots at me. 0.0's dead? Watch for the cyno -- Recruitment now open!!
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda	Posted - 2010.09.02 02:47:00 - [40] Originally by: Musical Fist Originally by: Aiwha Kill mails in my log, enemies taking potshots at me. 0.0's dead? Watch for the cyno That, my friend, is when the fun starts... THE RULES of PvP'ing with Aiwha 1. Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. 2. When it does go wrong, it's probably Aiwha's fault. 3. If it's not Aiwha's fault, it soon will be
Peter XZ Gallente	Posted - 2010.09.02 03:30:00 - [41] Edited by: Peter XZ on 02/09/2010 03:30:56 Dear OP, cheers for the long post, so whats the problem?
RuckaLucka Ali GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:28:00 - [42] let me tell you about my T-44...
Mr SmartGuy	Posted - 2010.09.02 04:54:00 - [43] Every time I see something from the troll/repeated-to-hell-and-back list of suggestions, I'm going to post the same chunk of text and just bold the one from the original post just so that OP can see how unoriginal/boring/<random insult about intelligence> he is. Enjoy your read: Lag, nerfing supercapitals, ability to paint your ship, changing security statuses of the systems, fixing factional warfare, removing local, nerfing afk-cloakers, removing learning skills, adding AB bonus to assault frigs, boosting blasters, boosting rockets, fixing bounties, adding PvP arena, NAP coalitions, improving UI, boosting piracy, nerfing piracy, changing wardec mechanic in highsec against carebears, boosting destroyers, removing of t2 BPOs, nerfing of ECM, changing of your in game character name, adding of small anchorable structures, redesigning POSes, chainging of cyno effect, adding trails, walking in stations and ships, development of DUST for PC, not developing DUST at all, developing Incarna, not developing Incarna at all, changing CONCORD, fixing planetary interaction, training multiple characters per account, expanding 0.0 space, making bookmarks visible in space, nerfing insurance for suicide gankers, (not)adding RL ads in game, making of highsec carebear heaven free of PvP, donating destroyed PLEXes to some random charity organisation, removing macro miners/ratters/mission runners, nerfing/removing ninja salvaging/looting, adding capital ships in empire again, nerfing Dramiel, allowing POS theft, fixing the forums and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else.
Kai Lae Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.09.02 06:15:00 - [44] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 I think it's pretty clear that your bitterness goes beyond NAPs. I think it's obvious you're fighting (and losing) against the NC. You admit yourself you have more fun playing in the South and in WHs. Yet, week after week you're here, spamming GD with your hateful rhetoric against the NC instead of having some fun and enjoying what you do like. You think you're fooling people by coating your bitterness and whines with the word 'NAP'. In reality, you're ****ed the NC is owning you. And not only are they owning you, but their pets, and their friends are too. Week after week, it seems. Why don't you post what fail alliance you're in and at least like that we can determine what your faults are and try to help you? Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if your alliance applied to be part of the NC NAP and got rejected. After all, if you believe it's so easy for the NC to NAP, you probably already would have tried that to sabotage them. But that didn't work out too well, did it. And now here we are in GD, having to hear you cry week after week :(. You just won't stop. It won't end and now you're making me very very mad . Actually, I was wondering the same thing myself. Generally when you see a forum stalker it means at some point you have crushed their 0.0 dreams at one point or another by being better than them at something. Since they can't beat you in game they then get irrational and start forum stalking you. It's actually a bit creepy, when you think about it. People generally most likely to do this is anyone that was associated with the "new north" powerbloc in 2007 or especially a member of triumvirate (any of the endless versions) who have been steamrollered by us at one time or another. Said forum stalking will invariably state either that we are the most horrible blight in the eve universe, since like some Illuminati like group we control all of it, and the only chance that eve has is to rise up en masse and "fight da power". The second says that we are in imminent failure mode unless we instantly stop doing everything that has made us successful for the last 5 years and become identical to whatever point of view/playstyle the poster in question has. In the first case if it were true then where the hell are my royalty checks from all of you, because I could use the isk. Case 2 is pretty funny since no one with half a brain would ever pay attention to a poster like this - yet oddly they just keep on posting, doing the same things over and over again but expecting different results every time, I guess. Anyway what got me wondering is I figured that at some point we must have beaten Mr Fist like a drum and thus earned his enmity. However, upon searching for his MM killboard statistics I was not very surprised to learn that he of course had none. While the possibility that he's just totally insane and the basis of his near-continuous screeds against us is the figment of a deep seated delusion cannot be totally dismissed, what is more likely is that he lacks even the simple courage of his so called convictions to actually oppose us without hiding behind an alt. Which again makes you wonder when someone won't even attach their name to an effort that they apparently place so much emphasis on what, exactly that means overall. I'm sure you can draw you own conclusions, as I have. At any rate, reading the disjointed logic that he uses (such as in the OP where he states we are a great threat, but then says later we aren't because we'll just implode due to lack of anything to do) provides temporary enjoyment of lulz, at least.
Zarflax Zeeblebrox Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.02 07:14:00 - [45] Empires will rise and fall, but NC will always stand tall. BFF.
Opertone Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.09.02 07:46:00 - [46] NC is great I don't want wars, I want plexes and roids. For wars visit empire faction warfare.
Jita Alt666	Posted - 2010.09.02 07:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Jita Alt666 Oh I am more than aware of the OPs history. I am simply bumping threads to remove other threads from the public consciousness (page 1) and have nothing to say. Hence repeating myself in threads with meaningless posts. Thanks for your input though. Compelling answer, but i still don't believe someone who knew why he made that corp would find it funny in this context. It has been funny ever since he started showing up in local.

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.09.02 17:05:00 - [48] Removed spam that's in 3 other threads Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Captain Yifan Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.09.02 17:12:00 - [49] Yet another 'I cant beat NC so CCP should help me' thread. Our next goal will be NAPing the entire sandbox, what are you gonna do about it? Cry?
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 17:18:00 - [50] Originally by: Captain Yifan Yet another 'I cant beat NC so CCP should help me' thread. Our next goal will be NAPing the entire sandbox, what are you gonna do about it? Cry? Diplomacy has zero risk reward, again a grunt from the Northern Cancer doesnt get what my point is. Since I am talking about NAPs it is no surprise NC the queen of all the NAPs gets spoke about. Diplomacy needs risk reward, I mention this all the time but it is understandable why you dont get this. I openly spoke about the SC the same way until the ghost coalition fell, oh and as for your sandbox remark, diplomacy is the ONLY thing that doesnt have any risk involved and the rewards are crazy. Even in RL as your puppet masters like to compare eve too has great risks involved in forming a pact. -- Recruitment now open!!
Captain Yifan Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.09.02 17:38:00 - [51] Originally by: Musical Fist Diplomacy has zero risk reward, again a grunt from the Northern Cancer doesnt get what my point is. Risk reward what? risk vs reward is always the eye of the beholder, and has always been the biggest fallacy in EvE. low-sec systems such as the young mans stupid star and the rancer that killed more people than cancer has always been significantly more 'risky' than anywhere else , and reward? Should we now install a 1000 billion per hour gold mine in those systems to balance out the 'risk vs reward'? Did you derive an equation to calculate that ratio and what number do you deem that risk vs reward to be 'acceptable'? Risk vs reward in EvE is a consequence of player's actions. Even some benign operation such as high-sec veldespa shooting and mission running can suddenly turn dangerous resulting in Marauders worth as much as a mothership being turned into pixel dust because some carebear decides to do something stupid. Even very risky operations such as ratting in a faction-fit faction-ship in 0.0 can be turned into a much less-risky activity as players decides to form some sort of mutual-agreement. This IS sandbox. This is what defines the game as it is. Let me re-cap your statements: 'the rewards are crazy', 'NAP is cancer'. You, sir, are very entitled to your very strong opinion on how some people decide to play a videogame in order to minimize their risk/reward ratio (oh, btw, do you play EvE in a way that increases your risk vs reward ratio? Yea sure, lets transport 100 plexes in a kestrel, the rewards are tiny and the risk are great! bingo!). But as long as you are only chucking out tl.dr of hyperbole, your opinion worth as much as the stuff you usually find in your toilet. Last of all, in response to your little personal dig. Sir, I am just a little grunt in a alliance in a video game, but I wholeheartely believe that I am more mature and intelligent than some forum-whiner by a million fold. Q.E.D
Ryhss Caldari Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.09.02 17:55:00 - [52] I need a nap. I'm very tired. Where's my pillow?
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 18:03:00 - [53] Originally by: Ryhss I need a nap. I'm very tired. Where's my pillow? Hehe I used that in Jita about 3 months ago, got alot of good replies too -- Recruitment now open!!
Germaldi's sister Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.02 19:51:00 - [54] go pick a fight with the russians so. SIG: Yes u can have my stuff really u can!... its all located in Jita Planet 4 Moon 4 Caldari Navy Assembly Plant.... if u take ownership of the station u can have it!!
Dubyou Bush	Posted - 2010.09.02 20:02:00 - [55] Fix Lag
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.09.02 21:22:00 - [56] Meh. The naps will die shortly after the nodes for once don't. I mean seriously, what is there to do other than nap up and farm your territory atm? Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
Irae Ragwan	Posted - 2010.09.02 21:43:00 - [57] Originally by: Zeba Meh. The naps will die shortly after the nodes for once don't. I mean seriously, what is there to do other than nap up and farm your territory atm? Atlas would like to answer that, but they're too busy evac'ing at the moment.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.09.02 21:52:00 - [58] Originally by: Irae Ragwan Originally by: Zeba Meh. The naps will die shortly after the nodes for once don't. I mean seriously, what is there to do other than nap up and farm your territory atm? Atlas would like to answer that, but they're too busy evac'ing at the moment. Heh.. Guess I should have added 'for a competant territory holder' between 'there and 'to'. Losing your territory with the current lag situation is quite frankly the ultimate lulz. Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.09.02 21:58:00 - [59] Originally by: Captain Yifan Q.E.D R.A.G.E. have never been good at spinning, you are proof alone of that. Lets look at the arguments the No Combaters have given to diplomacy. You first get the long term players who are aware of the lameage, accept it and take advantage Quote: it is an advantage we want to use, it isnt an exploit to have everyone NAPed and it isnt breaking any rules. If we survive by this then so be it, yes it sucks and yes its boring but its there so we take advantage of it You then get the MAX Mk I grunts who dont actually even get that this is a game and a game that has to have both pvp and pve to live, not one of the other. Quote: We are all friends, you cant stop us from being friends This is much like the recent BFF crap that ME did in MAX Mk II for morale, all to make things look normal and acceptable. Quite frankly I know it isnt rule breaking and this is why I am talking about it, because your logic much like everyone elses could be equally used for sovereignty, supercap changes and anything else thats been changed in the last few expansions. Imagine using this argument against the lvl 4 mission changes. Quote: lvl 4s dont need a nerf because everyone plays their own style, this is our sandbox we play how we like. It isnt rule breaking mission running to make ISK and you shouldnt cry to CCP to change it as it is fine, there is risk involved someone could lose his golem sometime Guess what theres a reason things got changed and evading combat due to mass NAPing outnumbering everything freely, using strategies that include node crashing by piling in everyone and their alt isnt exactly what someone would consider working as intended. By all means feel free to use the endless NC arguments on ANY change thats mean implemented, they can all be said freely to them but theres a reason things get changed and all I am asking is a risk involved in mass NAPing and sadly all I get is threatened NC grunts repeating the same crap they once said in the titan changes thread many many times. -- Recruitment now open!!
Kesper North Caldari Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.09.02 22:04:00 - [60] Originally by: Musical Fist This is much like the recent BFF crap that ME did in MAX Mk II for morale That meme was started by Vuk Lau, leader of Morsus Mihi. I only wish I'd thought of it, as it worked really well as a rallying cry. -- Killed me? Read about it in my blog! Northern Lights: Solo PVP in EVE Online

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