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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.01 19:59:00 -
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The propaganda that "CCP shouldnt be allowed to limit who we can be friends with" has been strong in the North for quite some time. NC decided after TCF got nuked from the south to manipulate its members again making sure morale was high, knowing that their NAP Cancer only grew because they were intimidated by anything with equal numbers they decided to launch a weak and miserable communications campaign, called NAP Jong.
As predicted people questioned NCs strategy to invite and blue everything, it was pretty obvious they feared anything with any skill but they had a weakness. Worried about multiple attacks from different fronts and demoralisation on forums, fortunately NC puppets were easy to manipulate and were conditioned to believe they were all friends when in fact they were bacteria growing in a petri dish.
Anyway after Initiative left the north and went south the NAP Jong campaign turned to phase 2 which was simply to overfeed the fat coalition, acceptance of the obesity grew an extraordinary rate of which the slim and skilled of eve couldnt move.
With so much fat one could only hope the NAP Cancer of the North would burst like a cyst but sadly it grew and grew, the SC developed a liposuction technique to drain as much fat as possible, despite removing lots of fat there was just too much to remove.
With Atlas gone the ghost coalition known as SC no longer exists, NC is now officially 80% of all of 0.0, where policies involve no freedom, mass ratting and laughing at bad leadership jokes :WIDOT:.
With this being the case 0.0 by default has become the new empire as statistics show theres more of a chance to die in Jita than there is in the North.
I recently went to Branch from obe in an ibis on auto pilot for humour, local was entertaining but I was rather surprised why I lived assuming it was a fluke I returned back to empire once again on autopilot, only this time I died not to players but sadly to rats on a gate -.-
I have decided to end my campaign to end the NAP cancer on eve as 0.0 is soo blue that all the bitter vets are slowly leaving anyway thanks to boredom and are killing off the NAPs anyway. On the plus side I have been having alot of fun in WHs and lowsec, the only time I see 0.0 is when a WH takes me there or when I need to rat on my razor alt because really what other reason is there to log on a 0.0 char anymore?
Thanks to no risk / reward in diplomacy, 0.0 is the new empire :P
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Celestine Santora
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:02:00 -
[2]
dying eve is
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HachToom
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:02:00 -
[3]
Edited by: HachToom on 01/09/2010 20:02:27
I'm in the right place to discuss the lag ?
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Hari Markkus
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:08:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: Celestine Santora
dying eve is
...dying.
Look ma! I can do stupid memes too.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:08:00 -
[5]
Originally by: HachToom
Edited by: HachToom on 01/09/2010 20:02:27
I'm in the right place to discuss the lag ?
No it is a NC recruitment thread.
Your in the wrong section, General is now for Recruitment, Features and Idea's, Out of Pod Experience and C&P.
Lag is CAOD.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:10:00 -
[6]
Anyone got the real story on what happened to Musical Fist's main to cause such extreme butthurt and hatred towards NC?
I'm quite curious as to what caused this rabid one man choir squeal other than the obvious fist to rear he recieved.
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:10:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Musical Fist on 01/09/2010 20:13:56
TLDR - This is about 0.0 being dead not eve :P
@ Umega, well see last year Rawr promised more combat, more action more or well everything PvP, but what happened? Stupid mining CTAs and more mass recruiting everything, it got to the point where all we did was mine, rat and brag about how good and elite we are when in fact all we ever did was blob and node crash.
Now you get all the old players only logging in to rat change skill or laugh at the pitiful PvE ops to build yet another imperian titan.
No combat makes you kindda bored in a combat game especially when PvP is needed :P
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:14:00 -
[8]
Originally by: Musical Fist
TLDR - This is about 0.0 being dead not eve :P
..
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Kuar Z'thain
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:19:00 -
[9]
u mad.
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:21:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
u mad.
u lag.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:23:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
u mad.
u lag.
Clever. I see what you did there. 
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Ryhss
Caldari
Ominous Corp
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:26:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Celestine Santora
dying eve is
AGAIN?! It really needs to stop dying so often....
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:27:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Edited by: Musical Fist on 01/09/2010 20:13:56
TLDR - This is about 0.0 being dead not eve :P
@ Umega, well see last year Rawr promised more combat, more action more or well everything PvP, but what happened? Stupid mining CTAs and more mass recruiting everything, it got to the point where all we did was mine, rat and brag about how good and elite we are when in fact all we ever did was blob and node crash.
Now you get all the old players only logging in to rat change skill or laugh at the pitiful PvE ops to build yet another imperian titan.
No combat makes you kindda bored in a combat game especially when PvP is needed :P
So quit if you can't find combat on your own and need other people to hold your hand towards fights. Really.. who's fault is that? You're acting like a little ***** cause people aren't doing what you want them to do, spamming the forum with your same old crap for what, half a year now? When it should be obvious you can find what you want elsewhere, and let others play the game how they wish to play it, instead of trying to force your ideals onto everyone by trying to get the masses on your side, and thus making CCP act. Given the mass negative responses you've gotten repeatedly.. it ain't going to work.
So why don't you shut up, and move on with life and go find some combat orientated corps/alliances that do what you want them to do, and then come back and ***** after you will most likely **** off their leadership with your 'self-rightous' ways and attempts to make that corp/alliance do as you want them to do.
And on another note, you brag about all this isk you have.. where did that isk come from (if true)? Taking part in your supposed hatred of bounty farming, or producing goods to sell because **** does actually get blown up in this game?
Do something useful.. whine about lag. If CCP can fix fleet-fights and lag so it doesn't involve a numbers game simply to crash a node, then you can expect more fights to happen and more people eager to get into epic, fun warfare again. Otherwise.. wtf do you expect people to do in the mean time?
Here's a fricken nickel, you should be able to buy a better clue with it than what you're already dealing with.
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Kuar Z'thain
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:27:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Originally by: Kuar Z'thain
u mad.
u lag.
Not since the servers came up yesterday after the move. I regularly get ping under 70 in my T-44...
Wait... what game is this? 
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Baneken
Gallente
School of the Unseen
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:30:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: Musical Fist
TLDR - This is about 0.0 being dead not eve :P
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I'm from Finland and ummm I don't get the joke. 
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:34:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Baneken
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: Musical Fist
TLDR - This is about 0.0 being dead not eve :P
..
I'm from Finland and ummm I don't get the joke.
Meanwhile, in x
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Syn Callibri
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:37:00 -
[17]
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 01/09/2010 20:38:16
...much better! 
Fixed meanwhile in Finland
...no offense to Finland at all!
Syn Callibri
Mistress of the Blood Pact
"Naut-elghinyrr" of Vulkor-Khaine
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:39:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Baneken
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: Musical Fist
TLDR - This is about 0.0 being dead not eve :P
..
I'm from Finland and ummm I don't get the joke.
Se on aavistuksellinen. Metaphor. 
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:42:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Syn Callibri
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 01/09/2010 20:38:16
...much better!
Fixed meanwhile in Finland
...no offense to Finland at all!
In before the lock! 
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:44:00 -
[20]
Also in before lock.
The fact your in a corp named NAP coalition illustrates just how seriously you take this issue. Perhaps you should go play a game that hasnt been designed to be played with friends. You're obviously a solo sort of guy.
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Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor Elite
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:52:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Talks About NAP Cancer
Laughs at your corp's name.
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Senghir
Amarr
Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.09.01 22:43:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Musical Fist
stuff
So, let me get this right.
A war happened between two sides, and the side you like is losing or has lost. And not only that, the winning side had the audacity to then secure their territory and also get other people to like them?
How dare they! 
Surely the decent thing to do is to make some awful mess of the situation whereby their uppance will come for taking down the side you liked and they can spend the rest of their active account time in misery and contemplation for what they did.
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.01 22:52:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Senghir
Originally by: Musical Fist
stuff
So, let me get this right
Way wrong and way inaccurate but thanks for trying
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Senghir
Amarr
Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:07:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Originally by: Senghir
Originally by: Musical Fist
stuff
So, let me get this right
Way wrong and way inaccurate but thanks for trying
I've re-read your post very carefully and concluded that I hit the nail on the head the first time.
I get that you're bitter about SC's loss, but you'll just have to get over it. In a war between two sides, unless you reach some kind of stalemate, one side is going to lose.
The fact that you find so much of 0.0 "safe" (as you put it) is nothing but a good thing. |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:11:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
Originally by: Musical Fist
Talks About NAP Cancer
Laughs at your corp's name.
Still laughing at the contrast between OP's corp name and OP's posting
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:16:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
Originally by: Musical Fist
Talks About NAP Cancer
Laughs at your corp's name.
Still laughing at the contrast between OP's corp name and OP's posting
It's because you're new here, and are unaware of the OPs history. Making you look like a dimwit.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:19:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
Originally by: Musical Fist
Talks About NAP Cancer
Laughs at your corp's name.
Still laughing at the contrast between OP's corp name and OP's posting
It's because you're new here, and are unaware of the OPs history. Making you look like a dimwit.
Oh I am more than aware of the OPs history. I am simply bumping threads to remove other threads from the public consciousness (page 1) and have nothing to say. Hence repeating myself in threads with meaningless posts. Thanks for your input though.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:23:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Musical Fist
I HATE THE NC AND ITS EATING ME INSIDE
Why can't you post your **** in CAOD? I mean, seriously. We get it. You hate the NC and you want CCP to destroy them for you. What is it you're trying to accomplish by spamming GD with "IHATE THE NC I HATE THE NC I HATE THE NC!1!"? Are you hoping CCP will get so fed up and tired of you that they will smite the NC for you?
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Senghir
Amarr
Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:25:00 -
[29]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Musical Fist
I HATE THE NC AND ITS EATING ME INSIDE
Why can't you post your **** in CAOD? I mean, seriously. We get it. You hate the NC and you want CCP to destroy them for you. What is it you're trying to accomplish by spamming GD with "IHATE THE NC I HATE THE NC I HATE THE NC!1!"? Are you hoping CCP will get so fed up and tired of you that they will smite the NC for you?
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:27:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Oh I am more than aware of the OPs history. I am simply bumping threads to remove other threads from the public consciousness (page 1) and have nothing to say. Hence repeating myself in threads with meaningless posts. Thanks for your input though.
Compelling answer, but i still don't believe someone who knew why he made that corp would find it funny in this context.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Ziania
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Posted - 2010.09.02 00:32:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Ziania on 02/09/2010 00:32:25
Originally by: Musical Fist
On the plus side I have been having alot of fun in WHs and lowsec, the only time I see 0.0 is when a WH takes me there or when I need to rat on my razor alt because really what other reason is there to log on a 0.0 char anymore?
Welcome to the retired Napsec veterans association. There is cake and pie in the lounge. Be sure to ask about the discounted rates on term life insurance.
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.02 00:49:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Musical Fist on 02/09/2010 00:49:31
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Musical Fist
I HATE THE NC AND ITS EATING ME INSIDE
Why can't you post your **** in CAOD? I mean, seriously. We get it. You hate the NC and you want CCP to destroy them for you. What is it you're trying to accomplish by spamming GD with "IHATE THE NC I HATE THE NC I HATE THE NC!1!"? Are you hoping CCP will get so fed up and tired of you that they will smite the NC for you?
I normally dont say this since its been used by almost everyone over the past 5 years but,
U MAD?
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.02 01:07:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Musical Fist
U MAD?
You know what? Actually yes. I am mad. I'm mad at the NC. I'm mad they're owning you. I'm mad that they're making you so mad that you're making it your personal goal to spam the GD with your "I HATE THE NC" crap.
FFS, can the NC PLEEASE give this dude some kills? PLEASE?!? Let him kill some NCs. I'm begging the NC to please let him win one. For the General Discussion's sake!
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.02 01:11:00 -
[34]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Musical Fist
U MAD?
You know what? Actually yes. I am mad. I'm mad at the NC. I'm mad they're owning you. I'm mad that they're making you so mad that you're making it your personal goal to spam the GD with your "I HATE THE NC" crap.
FFS, can the NC PLEEASE give this dude some kills? PLEASE?!? Let him kill some NCs. I'm begging the NC to please let him win one. For the General Discussion's sake!
Relax Sophita, besides my issue is about NAPs it is no surprise NC get brought up since well they now are 80% of 0.0 in terms of population.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.02 01:20:00 -
[35]
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 02/09/2010 01:26:28
Originally by: Musical Fist
Relax Sophita, besides my issue is about NAPs it is no surprise NC get brought up since well they now are 80% of 0.0 in terms of population.
I think it's pretty clear that your bitterness goes beyond NAPs.
I think it's obvious you're fighting (and losing) against the NC.
You admit yourself you have more fun playing in the South and in WHs. Yet, week after week you're here, spamming GD with your hateful rhetoric against the NC instead of having some fun and enjoying what you do like.
You think you're fooling people by coating your bitterness and whines with the word 'NAP'. In reality, you're ****ed the NC is owning you. And not only are they owning you, but their pets, and their friends are too. Week after week, it seems.
Why don't you post what fail alliance you're in and at least like that we can determine what your faults are and try to help you?
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if your alliance applied to be part of the NC NAP and got rejected. After all, if you believe it's so easy for the NC to NAP, you probably already would have tried that to sabotage them. But it probably didn't work out too well for ya. And now here we are in GD, having to hear you cry week after week :(. You just won't stop. It won't end and now you're making me very very mad  .
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.09.02 01:34:00 -
[36]
I am detecting large quantities of drama in this sector.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.02 01:54:00 -
[37]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 02/09/2010 01:27:22
Originally by: Musical Fist
Relax Sophita, besides my issue is about NAPs it is no surprise NC get brought up since well they now are 80% of 0.0 in terms of population.
I think it's pretty clear that your bitterness goes beyond NAPs.
I think it's obvious you're fighting (and losing) against the NC.
You admit yourself you have more fun playing in the South and in WHs. Yet, week after week you're here, spamming GD with your hateful rhetoric against the NC instead of having some fun and enjoying what you do like.
You think you're fooling people by coating your bitterness and whines with the word 'NAP'. In reality, you're ****ed the NC is owning you. And not only are they owning you, but their pets, and their friends are too. Week after week, it seems.
Why don't you post what fail alliance you're in and at least like that we can determine what your faults are and try to help you?
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if your alliance applied to be part of the NC NAP and got rejected. After all, if you believe it's so easy for the NC to NAP, you probably already would have tried that to sabotage them. But that didn't work out too well, did it. And now here we are in GD, having to hear you cry week after week :(. You just won't stop. It won't end and now you're making me very very mad .
I cant believe you got angry over this thread, jesus christ woman get a grip, at least save the dramatic emorage for the assembly hall ones.
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.09.02 01:58:00 -
[38]
Kill mails in my log, enemies taking potshots at me. 0.0's dead?
THE RULES of PvP'ing with Aiwha
1. Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.
2. When it does go wrong, it's probably Aiwha's fault.
3. If it's not Aiwha's fault, it soon will be |
Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.02 02:25:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Aiwha
Kill mails in my log, enemies taking potshots at me. 0.0's dead?
Watch for the cyno
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.09.02 02:47:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Originally by: Aiwha
Kill mails in my log, enemies taking potshots at me. 0.0's dead?
Watch for the cyno
 That, my friend, is when the fun starts...
THE RULES of PvP'ing with Aiwha
1. Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.
2. When it does go wrong, it's probably Aiwha's fault.
3. If it's not Aiwha's fault, it soon will be |
Peter XZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.02 03:30:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Peter XZ on 02/09/2010 03:30:56
Dear OP, cheers for the long post, so whats the problem?
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RuckaLucka Ali
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:28:00 -
[42]
let me tell you about my T-44...
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Mr SmartGuy
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Posted - 2010.09.02 04:54:00 -
[43]
Every time I see something from the troll/repeated-to-hell-and-back list of suggestions, I'm going to post the same chunk of text and just bold the one from the original post just so that OP can see how unoriginal/boring/<random insult about intelligence> he is. Enjoy your read:
Lag, nerfing supercapitals, ability to paint your ship, changing security statuses of the systems, fixing factional warfare, removing local, nerfing afk-cloakers, removing learning skills, adding AB bonus to assault frigs, boosting blasters, boosting rockets, fixing bounties, adding PvP arena, NAP coalitions, improving UI, boosting piracy, nerfing piracy, changing wardec mechanic in highsec against carebears, boosting destroyers, removing of t2 BPOs, nerfing of ECM, changing of your in game character name, adding of small anchorable structures, redesigning POSes, chainging of cyno effect, adding trails, walking in stations and ships, development of DUST for PC, not developing DUST at all, developing Incarna, not developing Incarna at all, changing CONCORD, fixing planetary interaction, training multiple characters per account, expanding 0.0 space, making bookmarks visible in space, nerfing insurance for suicide gankers, (not)adding RL ads in game, making of highsec carebear heaven free of PvP, donating destroyed PLEXes to some random charity organisation, removing macro miners/ratters/mission runners, nerfing/removing ninja salvaging/looting, adding capital ships in empire again, nerfing Dramiel, allowing POS theft, fixing the forums
and at the end, asking CCP to commit to excelence to cover anything else.
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Kai Lae
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.09.02 06:15:00 -
[44]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
I think it's pretty clear that your bitterness goes beyond NAPs.
I think it's obvious you're fighting (and losing) against the NC.
You admit yourself you have more fun playing in the South and in WHs. Yet, week after week you're here, spamming GD with your hateful rhetoric against the NC instead of having some fun and enjoying what you do like.
You think you're fooling people by coating your bitterness and whines with the word 'NAP'. In reality, you're ****ed the NC is owning you. And not only are they owning you, but their pets, and their friends are too. Week after week, it seems.
Why don't you post what fail alliance you're in and at least like that we can determine what your faults are and try to help you?
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if your alliance applied to be part of the NC NAP and got rejected. After all, if you believe it's so easy for the NC to NAP, you probably already would have tried that to sabotage them. But that didn't work out too well, did it. And now here we are in GD, having to hear you cry week after week :(. You just won't stop. It won't end and now you're making me very very mad .
Actually, I was wondering the same thing myself. Generally when you see a forum stalker it means at some point you have crushed their 0.0 dreams at one point or another by being better than them at something. Since they can't beat you in game they then get irrational and start forum stalking you. It's actually a bit creepy, when you think about it. People generally most likely to do this is anyone that was associated with the "new north" powerbloc in 2007 or especially a member of triumvirate (any of the endless versions) who have been steamrollered by us at one time or another. Said forum stalking will invariably state either that we are the most horrible blight in the eve universe, since like some Illuminati like group we control all of it, and the only chance that eve has is to rise up en masse and "fight da power". The second says that we are in imminent failure mode unless we instantly stop doing everything that has made us successful for the last 5 years and become identical to whatever point of view/playstyle the poster in question has. In the first case if it were true then where the hell are my royalty checks from all of you, because I could use the isk. Case 2 is pretty funny since no one with half a brain would ever pay attention to a poster like this - yet oddly they just keep on posting, doing the same things over and over again but expecting different results every time, I guess.
Anyway what got me wondering is I figured that at some point we must have beaten Mr Fist like a drum and thus earned his enmity. However, upon searching for his MM killboard statistics I was not very surprised to learn that he of course had none. While the possibility that he's just totally insane and the basis of his near-continuous screeds against us is the figment of a deep seated delusion cannot be totally dismissed, what is more likely is that he lacks even the simple courage of his so called convictions to actually oppose us without hiding behind an alt. Which again makes you wonder when someone won't even attach their name to an effort that they apparently place so much emphasis on what, exactly that means overall. I'm sure you can draw you own conclusions, as I have.
At any rate, reading the disjointed logic that he uses (such as in the OP where he states we are a great threat, but then says later we aren't because we'll just implode due to lack of anything to do) provides temporary enjoyment of lulz, at least.
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Zarflax Zeeblebrox
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.09.02 07:14:00 -
[45]
Empires will rise and fall, but NC will always stand tall.
BFF. |
Opertone
Caldari
Metalworks
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.09.02 07:46:00 -
[46]
NC is great
I don't want wars, I want plexes and roids. For wars visit empire faction warfare.
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.02 07:54:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Oh I am more than aware of the OPs history. I am simply bumping threads to remove other threads from the public consciousness (page 1) and have nothing to say. Hence repeating myself in threads with meaningless posts. Thanks for your input though.
Compelling answer, but i still don't believe someone who knew why he made that corp would find it funny in this context.
It has been funny ever since he started showing up in local.
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.02 17:05:00 -
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Removed spam that's in 3 other threads
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Captain Yifan
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.02 17:12:00 -
[49]
Yet another 'I cant beat NC so CCP should help me' thread.  Our next goal will be NAPing the entire sandbox, what are you gonna do about it? Cry?
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.02 17:18:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Captain Yifan
Yet another 'I cant beat NC so CCP should help me' thread. Our next goal will be NAPing the entire sandbox, what are you gonna do about it? Cry?
Diplomacy has zero risk reward, again a grunt from the Northern Cancer doesnt get what my point is.
Since I am talking about NAPs it is no surprise NC the queen of all the NAPs gets spoke about.
Diplomacy needs risk reward, I mention this all the time but it is understandable why you dont get this.
I openly spoke about the SC the same way until the ghost coalition fell, oh and as for your sandbox remark, diplomacy is the ONLY thing that doesnt have any risk involved and the rewards are crazy.
Even in RL as your puppet masters like to compare eve too has great risks involved in forming a pact.
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Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.02 17:38:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Diplomacy has zero risk reward, again a grunt from the Northern Cancer doesnt get what my point is.
Risk reward what? risk vs reward is always the eye of the beholder, and has always been the biggest fallacy in EvE. low-sec systems such as the young mans stupid star and the rancer that killed more people than cancer has always been significantly more 'risky' than anywhere else , and reward? Should we now install a 1000 billion per hour gold mine in those systems to balance out the 'risk vs reward'? Did you derive an equation to calculate that ratio and what number do you deem that risk vs reward to be 'acceptable'?
Risk vs reward in EvE is a consequence of player's actions. Even some benign operation such as high-sec veldespa shooting and mission running can suddenly turn dangerous resulting in Marauders worth as much as a mothership being turned into pixel dust because some carebear decides to do something stupid. Even very risky operations such as ratting in a faction-fit faction-ship in 0.0 can be turned into a much less-risky activity as players decides to form some sort of mutual-agreement. This IS sandbox. This is what defines the game as it is.
Let me re-cap your statements: 'the rewards are crazy', 'NAP is cancer'. You, sir, are very entitled to your very strong opinion on how some people decide to play a videogame in order to minimize their risk/reward ratio (oh, btw, do you play EvE in a way that increases your risk vs reward ratio? Yea sure, lets transport 100 plexes in a kestrel, the rewards are tiny and the risk are great! bingo!). But as long as you are only chucking out tl.dr of hyperbole, your opinion worth as much as the stuff you usually find in your toilet.
Last of all, in response to your little personal dig. Sir, I am just a little grunt in a alliance in a video game, but I wholeheartely believe that I am more mature and intelligent than some forum-whiner by a million fold.
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Ryhss
Caldari
Ominous Corp
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.09.02 17:55:00 -
[52]
I need a nap. I'm very tired. Where's my pillow?
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.02 18:03:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Ryhss
I need a nap. I'm very tired. Where's my pillow?
Hehe I used that in Jita about 3 months ago, got alot of good replies too
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Germaldi's sister
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.02 19:51:00 -
[54]
go pick a fight with the russians so.
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Dubyou Bush
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Posted - 2010.09.02 20:02:00 -
[55]
Fix Lag
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.02 21:22:00 -
[56]
Meh. The naps will die shortly after the nodes for once don't. I mean seriously, what is there to do other than nap up and farm your territory atm?
Originally by: CCP Oveur
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss
There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Irae Ragwan
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Posted - 2010.09.02 21:43:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Zeba
Meh. The naps will die shortly after the nodes for once don't. I mean seriously, what is there to do other than nap up and farm your territory atm?
Atlas would like to answer that, but they're too busy evac'ing at the moment.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.02 21:52:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Irae Ragwan
Originally by: Zeba
Meh. The naps will die shortly after the nodes for once don't. I mean seriously, what is there to do other than nap up and farm your territory atm?
Atlas would like to answer that, but they're too busy evac'ing at the moment.
Heh.. Guess I should have added 'for a competant territory holder' between 'there and 'to'. Losing your territory with the current lag situation is quite frankly the ultimate lulz.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss
There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.02 21:58:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Captain Yifan
Q.E.D
R.A.G.E. have never been good at spinning, you are proof alone of that. Lets look at the arguments the No Combaters have given to diplomacy.
You first get the long term players who are aware of the lameage, accept it and take advantage
Quote:
it is an advantage we want to use, it isnt an exploit to have everyone NAPed and it isnt breaking any rules. If we survive by this then so be it, yes it sucks and yes its boring but its there so we take advantage of it
You then get the MAX Mk I grunts who dont actually even get that this is a game and a game that has to have both pvp and pve to live, not one of the other.
Quote:
We are all friends, you cant stop us from being friends
This is much like the recent BFF crap that ME did in MAX Mk II for morale, all to make things look normal and acceptable. Quite frankly I know it isnt rule breaking and this is why I am talking about it, because your logic much like everyone elses could be equally used for sovereignty, supercap changes and anything else thats been changed in the last few expansions.
Imagine using this argument against the lvl 4 mission changes.
Quote:
lvl 4s dont need a nerf because everyone plays their own style, this is our sandbox we play how we like. It isnt rule breaking mission running to make ISK and you shouldnt cry to CCP to change it as it is fine, there is risk involved someone could lose his golem sometime
Guess what theres a reason things got changed and evading combat due to mass NAPing outnumbering everything freely, using strategies that include node crashing by piling in everyone and their alt isnt exactly what someone would consider working as intended.
By all means feel free to use the endless NC arguments on ANY change thats mean implemented, they can all be said freely to them but theres a reason things get changed and all I am asking is a risk involved in mass NAPing and sadly all I get is threatened NC grunts repeating the same crap they once said in the titan changes thread many many times.
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Kesper North
Caldari
Reliables Inc
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.09.02 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Musical Fist
This is much like the recent BFF crap that ME did in MAX Mk II for morale
That meme was started by Vuk Lau, leader of Morsus Mihi.
I only wish I'd thought of it, as it worked really well as a rallying cry.
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Kat Bandeis
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.02 22:15:00 -
[61]
Banned from CAOD, OP?
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.02 22:25:00 -
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Sniper
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Captain Yifan
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Yifan on 02/09/2010 23:21:48
Edited by: Captain Yifan on 02/09/2010 23:18:19
Originally by: Musical Fist
R.A.G.E. have never been good at spinning, you are proof alone of that. Lets look at the arguments the No Combaters have given to diplomacy.
You first get the long term players who are aware of the lameage, accept it and take advantage
Read that highlighted line, read it, and read it again. Are you posting in Musical Fistish? Could you get it google translated please? If English is your first language then you should feel very sorry for yourself. No pun intended, are you actually Russian?
To summarise your reply, it is simply a threadful of cries, whines, amazingly bad grammatical mistakes and some incredible strawman-beating (want to counter my argument? please at least try to quote them instead of putting words into my mouth). If you really want to be taken seriously by someone (CCP!!!nerf the NC please they are overpowered) other than your (very) small (very) vocal group of supporters, you should try something called 'logic' and 'presence' instead.
edit 1: do you actually mean 'you alone are proof of that'? Well that still makes no sense but at the very least it is in English
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Yifan
Edited by: Captain Yifan on 02/09/2010 23:18:19
Originally by: Musical Fist
R.A.G.E. have never been good at spinning, you are proof alone of that. Lets look at the arguments the No Combaters have given to diplomacy.
You first get the long term players who are aware of the lameage, accept it and take advantage
Read that highlighted line, read it, and read it again. Are you posting in Musical Fistish? Could you get it google translated please? If English is your first language then you should feel very sorry for yourself. No pun intended, are you actually Russian?
To summarise your reply, it is simply a threadful of cries, whines, amazingly bad grammatical mistakes and some incredible strawman-beating (want to counter my argument? please at least try to quote them instead of putting words into my mouth). If you really want to be taken seriously by someone (CCP!!!nerf the NC please they are overpowered) other than your (very) small (very) vocal group of supporters, you should try something called 'logic' and 'presence' instead.
Really you are countering my reply by criticising my grammar, when yours was much worse, you must be pretty desperate.
Guess you could always use the "make love not war" argument instead that normally gets a few laughs, oh and I underlined the part which will make you emotional, I mean WTF dude not one, not two but three exclamation marks then followed by nerf without a space and you never even capitalised n OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHAT!!WERE!!YOU!!THINKING!
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Captain Yifan
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Musical Fist
Really you are countering my reply by criticising my grammar, when yours was much worse, you must be pretty desperate.
You are the desperate one here, as you are just countering my arguments with blatant lies. Can you really get any lower? I, by any means, hate arguing with someone by criticizing his grammar. But you simply provide no counter-arguments other than a bunch of straw-mans, hyperboles and whining in general.
Originally by: Musical Fist
Guess you could always use the "make love not war" argument instead that normally gets a few laughs, oh and I underlined the part which will make you emotional, I mean WTF dude not one, not two but three exclamation marks then followed by nerf without a space and you never even capitalised n OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHAT!!WERE!!YOU!!THINKING!
That post is no different to a 2 month old baby throwing up a tantrum. Let me help you along a bit. My argument was based on your false sense of 'risk vs reward balance' where that balance has never existed in EvE in the first place,it is not based on 'love is better than war', yet another straw-man.
By the way, I find it funny that you think the 'CCP!!!' part means I'm emotional, do you actually want me to criticize your reading comprehension on top of your apparent lack of maturity?
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:01:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Musical Fist on 03/09/2010 00:01:28
Originally by: Captain Yifan
By the way, I find it funny that you think the 'CCP!!!' part means I'm emotional, do you actually want me to criticize your reading comprehension on top of your apparent lack of maturity?
Ai ai captain by all means lets derail this, I guess when you dont have anything decent to say you immediately have to criticise stuff irrelevant to the game.
It looks like I hit a nerve, but if you want you can send me a mail explaining about how my posts are ruining your life, or perhaps this thread is exactly what you think of your coalition and the truth is so unbearable you focus more on spelling and grammar than the actual topic.
Its like calling an obese person fat, it isnt really surprising they get all defensive and start freaking out over other things
Edit- I goto bed in an hour so lets rap this up
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:01:00 -
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Dear Op.
Diplomacy has its own risks and rewards. Your very un-diplomatic approach to this particular topic clearly illustrates this. You have attempted to engage in diplomacy with a zero risk/reward approach and it has failed.
There are massive risks/rewards for alliances/corporations that engage in diplomacy. The only gripe you have that I can see being substantive is the simple fact that these risks/rewards are mainly held out of the game.
How is CCP supposed to police our out of game behaviour?
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Irae Ragwan
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:08:00 -
[68]
ITT: NC pets claim lag is the sole reason for their pansie defense league.
BFF!
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Musical Fist on 03/09/2010 00:24:15
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Dear Op.
Diplomacy has its own risks and rewards. Your very un-diplomatic approach to this particular topic clearly illustrates this. You have attempted to engage in diplomacy with a zero risk/reward approach and it has failed.
There are massive risks/rewards for alliances/corporations that engage in diplomacy. The only gripe you have that I can see being substantive is the simple fact that these risks/rewards are mainly held out of the game.
How is CCP supposed to police our out of game behaviour?
If an alliance today was to NAP another alliance who is 0.0 one of more of the following would happen.
A. They become a pet
B. They become a meat shield
C. They become a renter
D. They become a roaming alliance
E. They become an ally
The alliance they are NAPing will accept the NAP for the following reasons
A. Meat shield
B. Extra ISK
Explain how exactly theres any risk in NAPing? Sure if you NAPed NC some alliance in the south might mark you red but thats hardly a risk considering you have 50k people waiting to outnumber everything that flies by.
A few months ago I mentioned, if any major alliance either in the North, South or East were to crumble the coalition they are from by default would in effect would be dead due to huge number difference.
This is normally a common thing on the map anyway and the ONLY way alliance EVER deal with it is to match the other numbers. Atlas in this case is the dead alliance which most likely will have its corps join other southern empires.
Smaller alliances will remain small, renters, meat shields still and major alliances will NAP and grow at tumorous rates.
So what do we see in a war (not that those happen anymore), node crashes and blobs all because NAPs can freely be created WITHOUT any risk.
In short, smaller alliance will remain as a pet / renter / meat shield and larger alliance will try everything they can to crash nodes.
Not that anyone will have gotten this far in my post (thanks ADHD) imagine all the alliances in the game NAPed, because thats exactly what it is getting close to being. Alliances focus more on NAPing and comparing spoon sizes that they are unaware they are the source of lag. Which is why the first thing you see happening when lag is fixed is everyone try to bring back lag by cramming everything in one system.
TLDR - NAPs created lag and small alliances have no future in 0.0 thanks to NAPs. Oh and in case you missed it theres two points I bring up about NAPs not one :P
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:29:00 -
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OP, the problems are not NAPs them selfes , but game mechanics tat makes it the only viable option.
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Captain Yifan
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:31:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Ai ai captain by all means lets derail this, I guess when you dont have anything decent to say you immediately have to criticise stuff irrelevant to the game.
I have said this twice before, I have posted my arguments, and I was met with a reply that is a threadful of $insert_grammatical_mistake_here. so, the only natural thing I can do is to argue that your post is full of $insert_grammatical_mistake_here. Look, I believe I have already posted about it and I hate repeating myself to someone who clearly dont bother to read and understand before reply.
Originally by: Musical Fist
It looks like I hit a nerve, but if you want you can send me a mail explaining about how my posts are ruining your life, or perhaps this thread is exactly what you think of your coalition and the truth is so unbearable you focus more on spelling and grammar than the actual topic.
First of all, you sir, have big trouble distinguish between fact and opinion, and secondly, you must understand that using assertion does not add any weight to your argument, and finally, let me paraphrase what has been happening:
I: 'risk vs reward' is player-driven
You: 'make love not war' is rubbish, so your argument is rubbish
I: 'my argument is not make love not warcraft, it is actually.....'
You: your argument is rubbish, I say that in Musical Fistish
I: Your post has so many grammatical mistake that it doesnt even make sense
You: you said CCP!!! you are upset! you are emoraging!
I: But how does that makes me emoraging?
You: I hit a nerve, I am unable to counter your argument but what I say are facts, I am Musical Fist, the god that created EvE online, what I say must be true, it is like fat man are fat. I win!
I: But how did you win?
You: I win, what I said are facts! I win! Now admit you lost by sending me a in-game mail.
Makes sense to anyone? No? Me either.
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Irae Ragwan
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:37:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Captain Yifan
Makes sense to anyone? No? Me either.
Correct, you haven't made sense at all. Fist, on the other hand, has laid out a valid argument.
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Captain Yifan
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:41:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Captain Yifan on 03/09/2010 00:41:21
Originally by: Irae Ragwan
Originally by: Captain Yifan
Makes sense to anyone? No? Me either.
Correct, you haven't made sense at all. Fist, on the other hand, has laid out a valid argument.
enlighten me, please, fist alt, at the very least, have some gut to post with your main.
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Jypsie
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:45:00 -
[74]
So what's the point of this thread again.
NC got big. SC and NC fought. SC lost. NC have secured their empire making it safe for their members...OP whines about it?
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:51:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Jypsie
So what's the point of this thread again.
NC got big. SC and NC fought. SC lost. NC have secured their empire making it safe for their members...OP whines about it?
Apparently he want's everyone to drop the naps and get back to fighting instead of holding hands and farming sanctums. Guess he missed the note about fleet fights and all. Besides, can the NC vs SC lulz really be called a 'war'?
Originally by: CCP Oveur
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss
There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:53:00 -
[76]
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
OP, the problems are not NAPs them selfes , but game mechanics tat makes it the only viable option.
I can work with that :)
I know I havent mentioned this in a while but I actually like diplomacy, I prefer there to be more options and more involvement, not just one click powerbloc.
CCP working on fixing lag imo is a waste of time, sure once its fixed there will be a few wars but it will be the same thing like if was a few years ago and before you know it lag whines will return.
But yeh it is something CCP should look into for the obvious reasons
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.03 01:01:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Jypsie
So what's the point of this thread again.
NC got big. SC and NC fought. SC lost. NC have secured their empire making it safe for their members...OP whines about it?
Apparently he want's everyone to drop the naps and get back to fighting instead of holding hands and farming sanctums. Guess he missed the note about fleet fights and all. Besides, can the NC vs SC lulz really be called a 'war'?
This and newer independant wars in 0.0 and not just providence.
I like sov warfare, I like shooting caps, poses and stations, I like CTAs and being a pos gunner, I like watching a titan going pop and joining in the local spamfests while watching someones sovereignty drop.
Alot of this can only be expereinced in 0.0, but does any of this happen anymore
I know im bitter and wont let this go but I signed up to eve for player conflicts not "hello kitty who is ratting in my spot online".
Now I could easily start my own alliance but whats the point no small alliance will ever have a future in 0.0 based on the current mechanics
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.03 01:10:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Jypsie
So what's the point of this thread again.
NC got big. SC and NC fought. SC lost. NC have secured their empire making it safe for their members...OP whines about it?
Apparently he want's everyone to drop the naps and get back to fighting instead of holding hands and farming sanctums. Guess he missed the note about fleet fights and all. Besides, can the NC vs SC lulz really be called a 'war'?
This and newer independant wars in 0.0 and not just providence.
I like sov warfare, I like shooting caps, poses and stations, I like CTAs and being a pos gunner, I like watching a titan going pop and joining in the local spamfests while watching someones sovereignty drop.
Alot of this can only be expereinced in 0.0, but does any of this happen anymore
I know im bitter and wont let this go but I signed up to eve for player conflicts not "hello kitty who is ratting in my spot online".
Now I could easily start my own alliance but whats the point no small alliance will ever have a future in 0.0 based on the current mechanics
Well I would imagine thats what everyone wants mate. But they can't do it or the node dies. So why don't you drop the NAP Coalition and start up the Mass Testing Coalition? I daresay that will get you the results you are after far quicker.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss
There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Musical Fist
Gallente
NAP Coalition
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Posted - 2010.09.03 01:11:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Musical Fist on 03/09/2010 01:12:18
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Musical Fist
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Jypsie
So what's the point of this thread again.
NC got big. SC and NC fought. SC lost. NC have secured their empire making it safe for their members...OP whines about it?
Apparently he want's everyone to drop the naps and get back to fighting instead of holding hands and farming sanctums. Guess he missed the note about fleet fights and all. Besides, can the NC vs SC lulz really be called a 'war'?
This and newer independant wars in 0.0 and not just providence.
I like sov warfare, I like shooting caps, poses and stations, I like CTAs and being a pos gunner, I like watching a titan going pop and joining in the local spamfests while watching someones sovereignty drop.
Alot of this can only be expereinced in 0.0, but does any of this happen anymore
I know im bitter and wont let this go but I signed up to eve for player conflicts not "hello kitty who is ratting in my spot online".
Now I could easily start my own alliance but whats the point no small alliance will ever have a future in 0.0 based on the current mechanics
Well I would imagine thats what everyone wants mate. But they can't do it or the node dies. So why don't you drop the NAP Coalition and start up the Mass Testing Coalition? I daresay that will get you the results you are after far quicker.
Yeah I attend all of them, mainly to test out fits and stuff but I do show up for them on my main ;) I just dont see lag being fixed forever with the current mechanics ;)
Edit- Or rather I did attend all of them before I went on vacation, only just returned recently, missed todays
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.03 01:22:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Yeah I attend all of them, mainly to test out fits and stuff but I do show up for them on my main ;) I just dont see lag being fixed forever with the current mechanics ;)
They don't have to fix it forever. Just until you get to the point you can't realistically bring any more ships so maybe in the 6~8k range for a max effort bash when there is a total once side vs other side bash or around 2~4k for a normal fight. Hell it was a struggle even when you could field a fleet in the thousands to actually see a massive fight as most were much lower in count as timezones and pilot availability will take care of that as you simply can't bring more than you physically have logged on. And as far as tweaking the game mechanics to cut down on blobbing well there has to be a stable laggish free enviroment to actually test the sov 2.0 mechanics to see what needs changing. So first things first and lag has to be squashed first to do anything else of note.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss
There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Misanthra
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Posted - 2010.09.03 02:04:00 -
[81]
meh...more naps means less fights which means more 0.0 carebearing which means contracts flooded with cheaper officer and faction gear. Win win for everyone.
SOV mechanics mixed with lag making this possible, naps are just a symptom of it. Can't beat em even if you wanted to...may as join em and rat/plex since other option is lv 4 mission running in empire or wh's lol. Its a nice synergy of pita really. Got pos', tcu's, sbu's to blow up or defend now. And these aren't ninjya in with 10 sb's and black ops BS jobs so you have lag inducing fleets raised by an attacker and defender.
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Psychotic Maniac
Caldari
Head Shrinkers
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Posted - 2010.09.03 04:16:00 -
[82]
does anyone even read or care what this jackoff even has to say? 
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Galan Amarias
Amarr
Kantian Principle
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Posted - 2010.09.04 02:43:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Musical Fist
Originally by: something MF made up
lvl 4s dont need a nerf because everyone plays their own style, this is our sandbox we play how we like. It isnt rule breaking mission running to make ISK and you shouldnt cry to CCP to change it as it is fine, there is risk involved someone could lose his golem sometime
Guess what theres a reason things got changed and evading combat due to mass NAPing outnumbering everything freely, using strategies that include node crashing by piling in everyone and their alt isnt exactly what someone would consider working as intended.
By all means feel free to use the endless NC arguments on ANY change thats mean implemented, they can all be said freely to them but theres a reason things get changed and all I am asking is a risk involved in mass NAPing and sadly all I get is threatened NC grunts repeating the same crap they once said in the titan changes thread many many times.
MF, do you even realize the difference in your example here? Level 4 missions are an in game mechanic, like the speed of an afterburner or the tank on a pod. In game stats are subject to tweaking by CCP as that is where the stats come from.
Nonagression pacts are not in any way shape or form a game mechanic controlled by CCP. You have exactly one legitimate beef, node crash for win should be a game exploit. Sadly it can't be considered one. Too difficult to police and CCP's fault of unentended game flaw, i.e. LAG.
What you are proposing is some sort of artificial mechanic designed to limit player interaction. Guess what, CCP is not a big fan of that. Less freedom = bad.
If you want to solve the problem do what others suggested, get some friends and friends of friends and get them to the mass testing events so CCP can sort the LAG issue.
Asking for some sort of "NAP Fix" is beyond stupid.
Finally,
Hell yes there is RISK in a NAP. Do you have any idea how much fun you can have at someone's expense when they think you are their friend?
-Galan
p.s. sorry for necroing this but I've been traveling, yay internets
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