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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.09.10 12:52:00 -
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As a Canadian, the thought of Prince Charles being king makes me wish that Canada would be a republic.
He is whack. And the ears?
jesus murphy
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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.09.13 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: yani dumyat *Colonial America - Question for those you in the states. I wanted to differentiate between the young country that has grown up since colonization and the old America which existed before Europeans landed. What is the correct term I should have used?
There was no old America before euros landed. There was just two huge land masses with thousands of tiny tribes of "indigenous" people who couldn't even bother inventing the wheel.
The continent North America is covered by three nations. Canada, United States of America, and Mexico. The name America refers to the middle nation, North America refers to the continent as a whole.
And I live in Canada which makes Canada a lot more awesome.
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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.09.14 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zedic
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: yani dumyat *Colonial America - Question for those you in the states. I wanted to differentiate between the young country that has grown up since colonization and the old America which existed before Europeans landed. What is the correct term I should have used?
There was no old America before euros landed. There was just two huge land masses with thousands of tiny tribes of "indigenous" people who couldn't even bother inventing the wheel.
The continent North America is covered by three nations. Canada, United States of America, and Mexico. The name America refers to the middle nation, North America refers to the continent as a whole.
Your ignorance and arrogance are astounding. Why should the Native Americans "invent the wheel"? And "tiny" tribes? You don't know the first thing about North American Native Tribes. Several Indian nations were FAR from "tiny".
Yeah, your right - it's not like the wheel is useful or anything.
lol
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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.09.15 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Riedle on 15/09/2010 11:57:12
Originally by: Zedic Edited by: Zedic on 15/09/2010 05:21:50
Originally by: hurrhurr teh wheel isn't useful derp derp
They had horses you knave. Sit down and be quiet.
@ the long dissertation over where the Natives came from:
They're natives as in they were here the longest and before the disease spreading genocidal European colonists showed up and pretty much wiped them out. It's interesting that a couple of you boobs consider them somehow less because they didn't invent the wheel. Possum face considers that reason enough for them to have been swept aside. In the interest of full disclosure, I am descended from the evil Euro colonists *and* the Natives who were already here (Creek Nation / Irish). Though I'm mostly of Irish descent, there's some Native blood on my father's side. sooooo
HALP HALP I'M BEING REPRESSED! by... myself.. I guess? o_O
haha
They most certainly did NOT have horses before 1492. The North American horse went extinct many thousands of years before that.
Of course, you would know this if you had any clue what you were talking about but quite clearly, you do not. This is what happens when your background on the subject consists entirely of a few John Wayne movies and white, liberal guilt.
Hit the books and then come back and post something on this subject when you have a clue. Otherwise, your obvious political chat disguised as a historical chat will continue to make you look ridiculous.

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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.09.16 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Riedle on 16/09/2010 12:23:10 Edited by: Riedle on 16/09/2010 12:19:12
Quote: Belize, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama. There you go, there's a few other nations in North America and that's only on the mainland.
Commonly referred to as Central America.
Quote: About the horse, it made its way up from Mexico to the plains long before any settlers got there so yes the natives had been re-introduced to the horse before the european settler push westward.
Irrelevent. They did not have the horse prior to 1492 which was mentioned to 'counter' the fact that they had not 'discovered' the wheel.
This is what I said:
Quote: They most certainly did NOT have horses before 1492. The North American horse went extinct many thousands of years before that.
So they still got the horse from Europeans. Wether it came from Mexico or New York doesn't make a lick of difference.
All in all not a huge deal but meant only to point out the large degree in difference in development between the two peoples. The Europeans were far more developed as a society than the people they encountered in the new world.
For some reason schools tend to romanticize the pre-columbian people's as somehow morally superior to Europeans at the time when in reality it was nothing of the sort. They practiced human sacrifice and were brutal to their own and to their environment. The only difference was societal development was ******ed compared to Europeans at the time.
That's it.
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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.09.16 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Riedle on 16/09/2010 13:05:30
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Riedle Edited by: Riedle on 16/09/2010 12:23:10 Edited by: Riedle on 16/09/2010 12:19:12
Quote: Belize, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Panama. There you go, there's a few other nations in North America and that's only on the mainland.
Commonly referred to as Central America...
Is it a continent on its own? No. Still filing under North America thank you for playing.
Although smart move re-labelling them something else, makes them easier to disassociate from and kill.
Yes, very smart. Is Canada down there killing someone now? If not, I agree we probably should be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America
Quote: Central America consists of the republics of Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama. Central America is part of the Mesoamerican biodiversity hotspot, which extends from Northern Guatemala through central Panama.[5]
Have a read and educate yourself. What AP said was in no way incorrect. You ever hear of NAFTA? No? It's a free trade agreement for North American countries. Guess which countries are in it.
Now, back to your trolling!
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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.09.16 15:14:00 -
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Is it a continent? Until you load up a page on wikipedia stating those countries are on a continent called Central America I'm not impressed.
What countries are in NAFTA is a political decission, it has no bearing on geography. EU is European Union, yet not all countries in Europe are in it or will be, are they therefor not geographically in Europe?
You go educate yourself, your reasoning powers are severly lacking.
lol look, it's not my fault you didn't know about Central America.
take a deep breath and stop being so mad, brosef.
I can give you a hug if it turns that frown upside down!
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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.09.16 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Riedle on 16/09/2010 15:50:21
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Riedle
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Is it a continent? Until you load up a page on wikipedia stating those countries are on a continent called Central America I'm not impressed.
What countries are in NAFTA is a political decission, it has no bearing on geography. EU is European Union, yet not all countries in Europe are in it or will be, are they therefor not geographically in Europe?
You go educate yourself, your reasoning powers are severly lacking.
lol look, it's not my fault you didn't know about Central America.
take a deep breath and stop being so mad, brosef.
I can give you a hug if it turns that frown upside down!
I know that Mexico and the mentioned nations are referred to as Central America at times, yes you read it, Mexico too. That's still not the issue, they are not a continent separate from North America. 
Well I don't see anyone said that central america wasn't part of the continent of North America.
On this side of the pond, when one refers to NA, we are referring to Mexico, USA & Canada. So your anxiousness to jump all over the Central American11!!!oneoneone and caribean countries reeks of trying WAY too hard.
lol
Now, how about a hug?
PS: generally Mexico is considered as part of North America, not Central America. ;)
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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.09.17 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: Riedle on 17/09/2010 12:15:39 Edited by: Riedle on 17/09/2010 12:15:06 Speaking for myself, I was not speaking of 'good' and 'bad'. Although, I would much rather live in an agricultural society than a hunter gatherer one. lol
In anycase, if you are talking about an agricultural society meeting up with a hunter gatherer society and do not mention disease and germs, you are only seeing a very narrow spectrum of what happened. The agricultural germs and diseases inherant because of animal domestication is estimated to have wiped out 90% of the pre-contact population in North America. Much the same probably happened (is still happening) in south America. This has happened all over the world throughout history.
Again, for anyone interested in this I recommend 'Guns Germs and Steel' by Jared Diamond. It asks the question why the inhabitants of North America didn't discover and colonize Europe and sets out to answer that question.
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Riedle
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Posted - 2010.10.20 12:16:00 -
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As a Canadian I agree with your post Toshiro
It's the fad to be anti-American these days - don't let it get you down.
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