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Zelot Blueice
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:18:00 -
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Breaking News!
HHLOTTO, A.K.A. Helena Hurry, has been proven to be untrustworthy. Who have you really been giving your ISK to?
I started this story with the intention of exposing dishonest lottery runners. Here is my first story about HHLOTTO. Bear in mind that all the following content is unedited and told neutrally. There are others that I can expose as well, but for now I will release this story first.
I had begun the conversation with HHLOTTO with the intention of getting enough information to use as blackmail material. What I found out through the various conversations was rather disturbing. Through several of my conversations I found that Grendell was innocent and didn't support rigging lotteries. However, HHLOTTO was eager to get started right away.
I had said that I have a few ships I wish to give for the lottery. This had amazed her, but she was suspicious. I began to explain that she would have to rig the lottery to make an alt win. I told her this is a win-win situation. If she were to lottery out some of my supercaps she could keep all 100% if the ticket profit. She would in turn sell the ship off her alt and send me that ISK. She fell right into my trap. I continued to collect information. I believed that I had enough so I sent the blackmail mail. I had told her to send me 5billion ISK (Which is a fair price for her stature) or I would post this thread. She never came through. That pretty much sums it all up.
Below are various convoes for viable proof.
Convos:
Private_Chat_(HHLOTTO)_20100815_234819
Private_Chat_(HHLOTTO)_20100816_002917
Private_Chat_(HHLOTTO)_20100816_004546
Private_Chat_(HHLOTTO)_20100816_005712
Disclaimer: Blackmail is not violating any rules, nor is posting links to retrieve convoes.
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Zelot Blueice
Breaking News!
HHLOTTO, A.K.A. Helena Hurry, has been proven to be untrustworthy. Who have you really been giving your ISK to?
I started this story with the intention of exposing dishonest lottery runners. Here is my first story about HHLOTTO. Bear in mind that all the following content is unedited and told neutrally. There are others that I can expose as well, but for now I will release this story first.
I had begun the conversation with HHLOTTO with the intention of getting enough information to use as blackmail material. What I found out through the various conversations was rather disturbing. Through several of my conversations I found that Grendell was innocent and didn't support rigging lotteries. However, HHLOTTO was eager to get started right away.
I had said that I have a few ships I wish to give for the lottery. This had amazed her, but she was suspicious. I began to explain that she would have to rig the lottery to make an alt win. I told her this is a win-win situation. If she were to lottery out some of my supercaps she could keep all 100% if the ticket profit. She would in turn sell the ship off her alt and send me that ISK. She fell right into my trap. I continued to collect information. I believed that I had enough so I sent the blackmail mail. I had told her to send me 5billion ISK (Which is a fair price for her stature) or I would post this thread. She never came through. That pretty much sums it all up.
Below are various convoes for viable proof.
Convos:
Private_Chat_(HHLOTTO)_20100815_234819
Private_Chat_(HHLOTTO)_20100816_002917
Private_Chat_(HHLOTTO)_20100816_004546
Private_Chat_(HHLOTTO)_20100816_005712
Disclaimer: Blackmail is not violating any rules, nor is posting links to retrieve convoes.
In before the man locks it...
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:48:00 -
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She is a potential cheater. Do not trust her with your hard earned ISK.
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zelot Blueice
She is a potential cheater. Do not trust her with your hard earned ISK.
Potential? I think the first convo was pretty straight up about she was cool with rigging a lottery.
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.04 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Zelot Blueice on 04/09/2010 19:59:16
Yeah, if only I had the supercaps to actually do it, we both coulda made isk, but alas I didnt
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.04 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 04/09/2010 20:00:08
Originally by: Zelot Blueice
Yeah, if only I had the supercaps to actually do it, we both coulda made isk, but alas I didnt.
I have no caps plus i don't involve myself in lotteries that are known to be lies. However, when you said you had proof someone was dirty, i couldn't wait to reply to the post.
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Molesty Smurf
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: logs
Anaxis muntain is something else.
Uh oh you've been called out anaxis.
For what its worth, anaxis has bought into all of my (4) lotteries... I don't think he's won anything yet.
Also, is there anything in there that is actual definitive proof? A chatlog can be faked, after all.
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:17:00 -
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I know it can be faked but thats alot of **** to fake. I am too lazy. Anyway, I did have pictures of the convoes but lost them. I will try and find them.
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.04 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 04/09/2010 22:18:28
Originally by: Molesty Smurf
Originally by: logs
Anaxis muntain is something else.
Uh oh you've been called out anaxis.
For what its worth, anaxis has bought into all of my (4) lotteries... I don't think he's won anything yet.
Also, is there anything in there that is actual definitive proof? A chatlog can be faked, after all.
Grendell was involved in one of the convo's. So i guess you might be able to ask him.
Edit: To The "Grendell" Channel!
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Fh'ear
Caldari
Asset Relocation Specialist Enterprises
Galactic Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.04 23:10:00 -
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Am I missing something?
Out of those convo's I see Zelot saying he has x, y and z for lotto and he wants to rig them, and HH saying uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, and in the last convo when Zelot asks how they're going to rig it HH says you can't and that he won't.
Am I missing something in these? Where is the admission of rigging from HH?
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.04 23:14:00 -
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He was into the whole thing. At any point if he wanted to he could have done it. HHLOTTO wanted to play it safe, but none the less she was tempted. This alone is already enough to incriminate.
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.04 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Fh'ear
Am I missing something?
Out of those convo's I see Zelot saying he has x, y and z for lotto and he wants to rig them, and HH saying uh huh, uh huh, uh huh, and in the last convo when Zelot asks how they're going to rig it HH says you can't and that he won't.
Am I missing something in these? Where is the admission of rigging from HH?
Well, someone who didn't stop at the first mention of rigging his own lottery is rather fishy.
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.09.04 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zelot Blueice
He was into the whole thing. At any point if he wanted to he could have done it. HHLOTTO wanted to play it safe, but none the less she was tempted. This alone is already enough to incriminate.
Anytime I'm in highsec I'm tempted to blow a random neutral out of the sky. Should CONCORD preemptively destroy me?
Sounds to me like you failed at blackmail. Try harder next time.
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.04 23:42:00 -
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Yes, obviously I have failed or else I wouldnt be here. She should have stopped at the beginnning and left the convo. Infact somewhere between the beginnning and middle she insisted on rigging it. Why dont you read it all first before you post?
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.09.04 23:47:00 -
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Because I can.
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JennyD
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Posted - 2010.09.05 00:14:00 -
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So basically HHLOTTO did not rig any lottery?
I hear HHLOTTO was collecting information about idiots that are trying to blackmail lottery runners into giving them isk/ships ?
I hear these idiots have not managed to score any isk/ships from the lottery runners ?
I hear these kids have got all emo , stamped their feet , squealed about how their daddies are bigger then other kids daddies .
This all sound about right ?
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HHLOTTO
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Posted - 2010.09.05 00:52:00 -
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LOL sorry im just LOLING :P because you just showed how I dont rig my lottos and how I repeatedly said I DONT RIG LOTTOS lol
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.05 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: Zelot Blueice on 05/09/2010 00:56:23
Okay, tell me which covno says you DONT RIG LOTTOS and copy a few lines above and below the quote. Please. I will never trust you with my isk. You were so willing to rig it wasnt even funny. You are definately dangerous to my wallet.
[ 2010.08.15 23:49:11 ] Zelot Blueice > Okay well I have another deal.
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[ 2010.08.15 23:49:29 ] Zelot Blueice > I am thinking rig the thing, your alt gets the hel and you give me 50% of the price its worth
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[ 2010.08.15 23:49:35 ] Zelot Blueice > 16bill so 8b for me?
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[ 2010.08.15 23:49:54 ] HHLOTTO > would this be before or after the lotto is done?
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[ 2010.08.15 23:49:58 ] Zelot Blueice > I mean 16 for me
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[ 2010.08.15 23:50:00 ] Zelot Blueice > After
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[ 2010.08.15 23:50:26 ] Zelot Blueice > You will make the price of the hel in lotto tickets. And you will have a hel. So I ask that i can just get 16ish afterwards
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[ 2010.08.15 23:50:26 ] HHLOTTO > id be down for that if your interested in it
Here is this part of one of the convoes for you to chew on. Explain this.
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HHLOTTO
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: HHLOTTO on 05/09/2010 01:02:36
as stated you wouldve bought the bulk of the tickets? paying 16 bill for it. so its not rigging but just stiffing yourself out of 16 billion isk if the other 400 tickets win which is just you losing 16 billion isk lol.
EDIT: also if you read what you posted carefully im responding to every other thing you say I never said id be down for rigging lottos but for being down with the 16 bill deal
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Carson Achura
Colonial Defense Agency
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:03:00 -
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I have been following this thread all day and HHLOTTO, I gotta say that you are really stupid for even considering rigging it. Can you please bring some supporting evidence to the table that you infact misunderstood Zelot. It seems to me you understood everyword.
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:04:00 -
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You still havn't cited what I wanted cited HHLOTTO. Why the hesitation? Is it perhaps that you really are bad and that you are worried if you paste those few lines you will actually reinforce the facts that I have been telling everyone?
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HHLOTTO
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:05:00 -
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Seriously talk to grendell me and him talked to this guy and did not even think of rigging... he said he had these super caps he wanted us to lotto so it was a good deal... didnt think he was trying to get me to rig it
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: Zelot Blueice on 05/09/2010 01:08:18
Prove you spoke with Grendell. Show us some unedited convoes. Go ahead and just paste the chatlogs here so we can all read them.
Edit: You and grendell could have just had these convoes and had small talk as a defence plan against me if I went public so that you could easily paste them on my thread as anti. Keep this in mind folks. She is in it for the ISK, not for you. Another idea, why dont you get Grendell in here to confirm these things.
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 05/09/2010 01:07:43
 *gets popcorn*
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: AtheistOfFail
Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 05/09/2010 01:07:43
*gets popcorn*
share
please?
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 05/09/2010 01:12:41
Originally by: Aiwha
Originally by: AtheistOfFail
Edited by: AtheistOfFail on 05/09/2010 01:07:43
*gets popcorn*
share
please?
*throws some popcorn at Aiwha*
Catch!
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HHLOTTO
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: HHLOTTO on 05/09/2010 01:14:18
also this guy zelot just wanted isk anyway...
hey
From: Zelot Blueice
Sent: 2010.08.29 03:17
To: HHLOTTO,
Remember out talk on the titans? Ill cut you a deal. You are obviously not a trusted lotto runner. You are willing to be tempted by dishonesty and profit so I will release these convoes to the public and ruin your entire reputation if you dont pay me a ransom of 5b. I think thats a fair asking consider I can damn everything you have made for a very long time.
EDIT: With a 3rd party you cant even rig a lotto so do not even see how this had gotten this far lol
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:16:00 -
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>_>
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Balls in your court Zelot.
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E Taylor
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:17:00 -
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LOL proof zelot is the true scammer I bet he is atheistoffail there both annoying...
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Zelot Blueice
XTC Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.05 01:18:00 -
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HHLOTTO, Cite some god damn evidence from the convoes. Also, post your convoes here with Grendell, and if you read the OP i stated I wanted ISK from you. Perhaps you should read more. And it is possible with 3rd party. How do these people know if you and Grendell actually almost went through with this? POST YOUR CONVOES
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