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MollyPuss
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.24 00:14:00 -
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O.k you guys just wanted to say thanks to my fellow eve players that have made so many brilliant points on the forums and interwebs, I've really enjoyed reading posts that have put arguments forward with so much thought and effort to improve our beloved game, most of those made in much more concise, intelligent and detailed way than I ever could (or maybe i'm just lazy),
CCP has taken a kicking from the player base, I think there has been enough analysis done into how, where and why we are mildly annoyed to out right enraged with certain area's of game play or the lack of etc etc . Personally I'm going to cut CCP a little slack now, Hope you CCP guys pull the rabbit out of the hat. Group hug! I think all of us everyone! just want this game to be amazing and that unites us all. I've got 7 years invested myself. I've stayed that long because i'\ve always had hope in what eve could be.
Just, a not normally very vocal player putting in my 2 penneth.
Cheers |
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
118
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Posted - 2011.09.24 00:17:00 -
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Hilmar? Is that you? Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes Needs a banner here.. |
mkint
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Posted - 2011.09.24 00:18:00 -
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2 1/2 years since the last GOOD expansion? 2 1/2 years of CCP stupidity without so much as admitting they might be doing something stupid? I think we deserve 2 1/2 more years of apologies, 2 1/2 years of fixing the stupidity that was created in that time. That we've earned 2 1/2 years of bashing. So, no, I won't stop because of yet more *words*. |
MollyPuss
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.24 00:26:00 -
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Quote:Hilmar? Is that you? Smile lol no wouldn't mind his cash though! Mkint bash away.......... was just my personal view |
The Apostle
The Black Priests
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Posted - 2011.09.24 00:28:00 -
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Quote:2 1/2 years since the last GOOD expansion? 2 1/2 years of CCP stupidity without so much as admitting they might be doing something stupid? I think we deserve 2 1/2 more years of apologies, 2 1/2 years of fixing the stupidity that was created in that time. That we've earned 2 1/2 years of bashing. So, no, I won't stop because of yet more *words*.
Some people are negative regardless of what is said OR done. Mate, I haven't blocked anyone yet. Can someone tell me where the button is so I can test it?
+1 to OP and total agreeance. It's time... Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. |
non judgement
Evolved from the Wreck Flying Burning Ships Alliance
10
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Posted - 2011.09.24 00:29:00 -
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I would say inb4 negative posts. But I'm too late.
It's nice to see a veteran who still has this mindset. Just goes to show that not all of the vterans are bitter... |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
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Posted - 2011.09.24 00:30:00 -
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I for one am sick and tired of the CCP bashing. I am also starting to feel that the CSM is a worthless waste of time and should be abolished. |
Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
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Posted - 2011.09.24 00:48:00 -
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This "I want actions, not words" antic is getting silly. When you get a corporation to admit a refocus publicly, you know something will happen. Lay down the weapons and take a breather already boys!
We all got the point, we know you, mighty forums warriors, will run to the front again if nothing comes out of it. Your might and virility has been established.
Chill down. Wait. |
Di Mulle
6
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Posted - 2011.09.24 01:30:00 -
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MollyPuss wrote: O.k you guys just wanted to say thanks to my fellow eve players that have made so many brilliant points on the forums and interwebs, I've really enjoyed reading posts that have put arguments forward with so much thought and effort to improve our beloved game, most of those made in much more concise, intelligent and detailed way than I ever could (or maybe i'm just lazy), CCP has taken a kicking from the player base, I think there has been enough analysis done into how, where and why we are mildly annoyed to out right enraged with certain area's of game play or the lack of etc etc . Personally I'm going to cut CCP a little slack now, Hope you CCP guys pull the rabbit out of the hat. Group hug! I think all of us everyone! just want this game to be amazing and that unites us all. I've got 7 years invested myself. I've stayed that long because i'\ve always had hope in what eve could be. Just, a not normally very vocal player putting in my 2 penneth. Cheers
You know, I would like to to support you, being kind hearted and all that.
Just, I am afraid that certain idea is firmly planted into community. The idea that nothing goes without extreme bashing, and barely goes even with it (we are yet to see literally anything after all). And you know who put the biggest effort into that.
I am really confused and uncertain, honest. CCP is unable to implement simpliest things. Like settting to hide signatures. So they sweep it under a rug . Children do that in their pre-shool years, CCP does it being adults. Probably because it is fearless enough. |
Gregor Palter
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Posted - 2011.09.24 03:00:00 -
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The bashing will continue until morale is improved. |
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Foodpimp
Heaven's Harvesters LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2011.09.24 03:03:00 -
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I believe that CCP bashing is a catharsis and vital to maintaining an even keel, Lest I suddenly go apesh** and go full on retarb. |
The Apostle
The Black Priests
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Posted - 2011.09.24 03:32:00 -
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Quote:The bashing will continue until morale is improved. I'd prefer you name one instance in history where repeated negativity has boosted morale?
A good FC outgunned and outnumbered will laugh and say it's a good day to die as he calls primary and locks.
A bad FC outgunned and outnumbered will explain that he won't risk ships because of lag, gate antics, station docking, cost, lack of ships, bad overview ad nauseum as he warps away.
I know who I'd fight for. You? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. |
BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.09.24 04:07:00 -
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Playerbase will always criticize CCP, and we need to so they're aware of what is wrong, and their bad directions.
Now CCP has wronged us over shittons of things, the most recent obvious one is the hangar deletion (5+ months), and hampering many other functions of the game. CCP makes obnoxious articles to the public/media that everyone is all happy and everything is just fine!~ -and pilots couldn't be happier. ....hmmm yeah right. Haven't forgotten any of this at all.
People must be really naive to cave into soft words or suffer amnesia of CCPs behavior. Especially after the playerbase thwarted CCP's leaked internals, CEO/Zulu's dear fuckyouall dev post, failed promises, and other multitudes of bullshit some people forgotten I guess.
I don't think CCP plans ceasefires and will continue to r.ape and pillage the playerbase a little more for as long as they can hold out for. It's either they return developing core content/values of this game or shoot everyone in the back of the head, pretty much.
Have a nice day Zulu.~ [img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Limitless Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.24 04:09:00 -
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Nyio wrote:Hilmar? Is that you?
Hilmar would never admit there is any uproar among players to begin with. In his world he is Jesus, everyone loves him and his game, and he's never taken a bad decision. Oh and you can't oppose him, obviously then you're delusional and/or a freak and need to be disregarded, ignored, or processed into fish-food. |
Yasumoto
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.09.24 05:04:00 -
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As a subscriber to the EVE service I will never cut CCP slack.
Allowing CCP to continue down the road of '**** the customer; we know better than them' is tatamount to giving your local HIV Positive pedophile the key to your virgin daughter's bedroom and going out to dinner. You hope that something terrible won't happen, but deep down you know that the bum can't help but indulge himself.
CCP has been binging on the sweet cash from subscriptions and investors alike over the past several years and now we have a bloated and directionless company that exhibits many of the problems typical of a rapidly grown business with weak oversight.
Holding CCP accountable for their actions and words is the only way to keep them straight and possibly on the path towards re-focusing on what makes EVE a great service that continues to grow its subscriber base. |
The Apostle
The Black Priests
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Posted - 2011.09.24 05:07:00 -
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Quote:Allowing CCP to continue down the road of '**** the customer; we know better than them' is tatamount to giving your local HIV Positive pedophile the key to your virgin daughter's bedroom and going out to dinner. You hope that something terrible won't happen, but deep down you know that the bum can't help but indulge himself.
CCP has been binging on the sweet cash from subscriptions and investors alike over the past several years and now we have a bloated and directionless company that exhibits many of the problems typical of a rapidly grown business with weak oversight.
Holding CCP accountable for their actions and words is the only way to keep them straight and possibly on the path towards re-focusing on what makes EVE a great service that continues to grow its subscriber base.
This is a thoughtful and insightful post.
Please post again next time you feel thoughtful and insightful. Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. |
Mr M
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.24 05:11:00 -
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There's a difference between constructive criticism and comparing people with HIV positive peadophiles. Quite a big one.
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.24 06:54:00 -
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mkint wrote:2 1/2 years since the last GOOD expansion? 2 1/2 years of CCP stupidity without so much as admitting they might be doing something stupid? I think we deserve 2 1/2 more years of apologies, 2 1/2 years of fixing the stupidity that was created in that time. That we've earned 2 1/2 years of bashing. So, no, I won't stop because of yet more *words*.
oy! oyyy, OOOY!!! I loved Incursion expansion to be frank... |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
49
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Posted - 2011.09.24 06:58:00 -
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MollyPuss wrote: O.k you guys just wanted to say thanks to my fellow eve players that have made so many brilliant points on the forums and interwebs, I've really enjoyed reading posts that have put arguments forward with so much thought and effort to improve our beloved game, most of those made in much more concise, intelligent and detailed way than I ever could (or maybe i'm just lazy), CCP has taken a kicking from the player base, I think there has been enough analysis done into how, where and why we are mildly annoyed to out right enraged with certain area's of game play or the lack of etc etc . Personally I'm going to cut CCP a little slack now, Hope you CCP guys pull the rabbit out of the hat. Group hug! I think all of us everyone! just want this game to be amazing and that unites us all. I've got 7 years invested myself. I've stayed that long because i'\ve always had hope in what eve could be. Just, a not normally very vocal player putting in my 2 penneth. Cheers
why the CCP bashing? well some people just want an expansion with some quality.
do tell when was the last time since that happened. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
mkint
46
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:00:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:mkint wrote:2 1/2 years since the last GOOD expansion? 2 1/2 years of CCP stupidity without so much as admitting they might be doing something stupid? I think we deserve 2 1/2 more years of apologies, 2 1/2 years of fixing the stupidity that was created in that time. That we've earned 2 1/2 years of bashing. So, no, I won't stop because of yet more *words*. oy! oyyy, OOOY!!! I loved Incursion expansion to be frank... Incursion expansion had some good features, yeah. The problem is separating features from the expansion name... incursions as a feature was good, but incursions as an expansion had the anom nerf that has finished off nullsec as being even remotely livable. And coincidentally, played right into the hands of certain RMTing members of the CSM... |
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Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
21
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:02:00 -
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grimpak wrote:why the CCP bashing? well some people just want an expansion with some quality.
do tell when was the last time since that happened.
Do tell when bashing an opponent who yielded made you more of a winner? |
mkint
48
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:08:00 -
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Swooshie wrote:grimpak wrote:why the CCP bashing? well some people just want an expansion with some quality.
do tell when was the last time since that happened. Do tell when bashing an opponent who yielded made you more of a winner? *still waiting for the dev blog and/or patch that really demonstrates a real change in CCP, not just more market-speak*
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
49
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:14:00 -
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Swooshie wrote:grimpak wrote:why the CCP bashing? well some people just want an expansion with some quality.
do tell when was the last time since that happened. Do tell when bashing an opponent who yielded made you more of a winner?
it has been over two years since Apocrypha. we talked, we waited, we talked more and waited more, yet :excellence: and :quality: didn't happened. all that happened was :18months:, half-assed WiS, and barely no content since then (incursions wasn't bad, content wise, but it could be much better). Population got tired of waiting and so we had the jita riots.
so yeah, bashing might not work, but then again, we exhausted everything else, so bashing it is. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:14:00 -
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Swooshie wrote:grimpak wrote:why the CCP bashing? well some people just want an expansion with some quality.
do tell when was the last time since that happened. Do tell when bashing an opponent who yielded made you more of a winner?
How about:
When you turn around and the yielded opponent stabs you in the back.
? |
Officer Spawn
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:25:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Quote:The bashing will continue until morale is improved. I'd prefer you name one instance in history where repeated negativity has boosted morale? A good FC outgunned and outnumbered will laugh and say it's a good day to die as he calls primary and locks. A bad FC outgunned and outnumbered will explain that he won't risk ships because of lag, gate antics, station docking, cost, lack of ships, bad overview ad nauseum as he warps away. I know who I'd fight for. You?
I'm trying to imagine CCP running a fleet, it would never undock and just listen to the FC predicting a totally awesome fight in 18 months. |
Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
21
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:42:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:Swooshie wrote:grimpak wrote:why the CCP bashing? well some people just want an expansion with some quality.
do tell when was the last time since that happened. Do tell when bashing an opponent who yielded made you more of a winner? it has been over two years since Apocrypha. we talked, we waited, we talked more and waited more, yet :excellence: and :quality: didn't happened. all that happened was :18months:, half-assed WiS, and barely no content since then (incursions wasn't bad, content wise, but it could be much better). Population got tired of waiting and so we had the jita riots. so yeah, bashing might not work, but then again, we exhausted everything else, so bashing it is.
Don't get me wrong I support every manifestation, riot and pressure means that the community has made usage of up to now. I just say that now is the time to observe and judge. Effective means have a time to be applied and a time to be interrupted.
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
How about:
When you turn around and the yielded opponent stabs you in the back.
?
Yes, they are out to get you....
/me creeps away, slowly |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
50
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:44:00 -
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Swooshie wrote:Don't get me wrong I support every manifestation, riot and pressure means that the community has made usage of up to now. I just say that now is the time to observe and judge. Effective means have a time to be applied and a time to be interrupted.
and I totally agree with that. that's why I'm in my "wait and see" mode to see how it goes. Winter expansion is the time limit. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
21
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:50:00 -
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Yes, I think it will be the limit for a good amount of players. I'm in the same boat and I will wait 'till then. If by then the game is still in this state then I will assume that it is condemned.
I usually don't go out of my way and defend corporations like that but... when I see that devblog talking about "defining moment" and "defining history" something akin to "make or break" comes to my mind.
I like EVE, I hope it's going to "make it" |
The Apostle
The Black Priests
70
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Posted - 2011.09.24 07:53:00 -
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Quote:And coincidentally, played right into the hands of certain RMTing members of the CSM... Intel or it never happened.
Quote:and I totally agree with that. that's why I'm in my "wait and see" mode to see how it goes. Winter expansion is the time limit. Now here's a thing. Can the winter expansion contain massive new content? Has CCP got time?
CCP been backed into a corner to "fix this, fix that, gimme this, gimme that" and the release will probably be no more than an acquiecence to the demands placed upon them by the slap CCP brigade....
New content? Maybe. Fixed content? Probably.
Will you settle for the latter? Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. |
Julia Reeve
Both Worlds
1
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Posted - 2011.09.24 08:23:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:mkint wrote:2 1/2 years since the last GOOD expansion? 2 1/2 years of CCP stupidity without so much as admitting they might be doing something stupid? I think we deserve 2 1/2 more years of apologies, 2 1/2 years of fixing the stupidity that was created in that time. That we've earned 2 1/2 years of bashing. So, no, I won't stop because of yet more *words*. oy! oyyy, OOOY!!! I loved Incursion expansion to be frank...
Hell yeah and WiS will be awsome too. Keep at it ccp!! Just dont forget FiS... lolz, what am I sayin, Dust is comin and thats for us. Give em time people -------- Walking Sux -------- |
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