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Nye Jaran
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:12:00 -
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I've been playing Eve for 4 years now. I have 4 accounts in total. All this time, I've been a carebear across every account. It's just my nature. I've lived in lowsec and 0.0 during my time in Eve, but it was always very... friendly.
I have pewpew'd, I've even won, occasionally. But I always feel bad afterwards. I've even gone so far as to replacing a person's ship after I popped it. I can't help it, I'm just a nice guy. As such, I can't PVP, because I feel like an ******* for blowing up others people's stuff. It doesn't matter that they can return the favor, to me that doesn't balance the equation.
Now, I find myself bored (of carebearing, specifically), to the extent that I'm thinking of selling my characters and leaving for good. So, like I said in the title, what is a nice guy to do in Eve?
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Argonath1337
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:15:00 -
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Sell it and leave the Boring game...better games out there anyway.
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:15:00 -
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Quit eve after giving me all your stuff.
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okst666
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: okst666 on 13/09/2010 22:21:27 why should he leave?
we pay _almost_ all of our victims who enter our WH a new ship.
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Emile Gris
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: omgfreemoniez Quit eve after giving me all your stuff.
ho. ho. ho. You are so funny and original in all the messages you poop over these boards.
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King Pleasure
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:21:00 -
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Keep your accounts, or at least your primary. As you well know, Eve isn't a game where you can grind to the cap in a few days when you start over. Even if you're bored now you might find in 6 months or a year that there are new things for you to do and you don't want to have to spend ages retraining all those skills again. That's just not fun.
Or, see if you can find something else. Settle in WH space, find a small low-sp corp and mentor them up. I'm sure other people will make other suggestions as well.
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nye Jaran I've been playing Eve for 4 years now. I have 4 accounts in total. All this time, I've been a carebear across every account. It's just my nature. I've lived in lowsec and 0.0 during my time in Eve, but it was always very... friendly.
I have pewpew'd, I've even won, occasionally. But I always feel bad afterwards. I've even gone so far as to replacing a person's ship after I popped it. I can't help it, I'm just a nice guy. As such, I can't PVP, because I feel like an ******* for blowing up others people's stuff. It doesn't matter that they can return the favor, to me that doesn't balance the equation.
Now, I find myself bored (of carebearing, specifically), to the extent that I'm thinking of selling my characters and leaving for good. So, like I said in the title, what is a nice guy to do in Eve?
Have you played any RTS games? Such as Starcraft, or Command and Conquer? In those games you blow up people's stuff and it is expected, because they can get more.
In Eve they can get more too. I think what you are really missing is sense of purpose. There is little point in blowing up someone's ships without reason, some people get their kicks out of it, I don't, and it seems like you don't either.
If you need purpose, there are many good corps, perhaps the Free Intaki Movement, then you'd have a reason to fight.
If you want to discuss others, message me in game.
Best, Apollo =============================== || Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. || =============================== |
Sagesse
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:31:00 -
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how about FW, everyone who signs up by default expects to get blown up (or Red vs Blue) and there is still a little carebearing involved in FW, so you can have your cake as it where.
he other thing is to just keep your main training and take a break, come back refreshed in 6 months or something
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sagesse
he other thing is to just keep your main training and take a break, come back refreshed in 6 months or something
Best advice. Take a break, do something different. One day in about 3 months time you'll be dreaming about something in a late night slumber and your sub conscious will go, "auto pilot disabled, way point reached." and you'll be ready to get back into the grind.
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Hecatonis
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:39:00 -
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agree, eve gets under your skin.
kinda like a tape worm
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CCP Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2010.09.13 22:47:00 -
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See if you can join eve university and help them train new players? I think they have some pvp going on because people war dec their corp so anyone who loses their ship had it coming
Pink Dread has been hijacked
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.09.13 23:04:00 -
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I have moments of remorse as well sometimes and end up reimbursing the people that I like :)
The appeal of the hunt and the adrenaline will always pull me back to pvp and ebil gankage though.
Also I have met a few of my ingame palls due to being blown up, blowing them up or being decced. Great way to filter out people with a similar mindset, in my opinion.
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Sciencegeek deathdealer
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Posted - 2010.09.14 00:16:00 -
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Ive found that joining newer younger corps and helping them grow is fun. IE teaching ceo and members the basics and basicly being an anchor for the corp to go to for questons/emergency leadership.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.09.14 00:58:00 -
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Join an alliance, kill the bad guys, fight for the glory of your empire. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real! |
TheUndert0ker
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Posted - 2010.09.14 02:18:00 -
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Stay in the game and offset the douche bag:human being ratio. ================================= Original EVE Machinima.
Deep SpaceOut - 02
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.14 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sciencegeek deathdealer Ive found that joining newer younger corps and helping them grow is fun. IE teaching ceo and members the basics and basicly being an anchor for the corp to go to for questons/emergency leadership.
To expand on this idea then head it along a tangent I like:
Start a small corp on an alt. Be really nice and generous to new members. Start an office in one of the high sec island systems. Get your newbie corp guys to pod jump into small high sec island. Give them mining ships and explain to them that they are prisoners in this high sec island and they need to give you 50mil trit a day for at least 20 days to earn an escort out through low sec again.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.14 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia See if you can join eve university and help them train new players? I think they have some pvp going on because people war dec their corp so anyone who loses their ship had it coming
This or FW even. If you don't mind big alliances then join one and defend it against random piracy. Too bad there aren't many NRDS corp. It sounds like this would have been perfect for you as well.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor Elite
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Posted - 2010.09.14 02:45:00 -
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Fly ECM support ships and logistics. Your will be the reason why your side wins every fight, and you will not have to hurt anyone at the same time
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Whelan Jr
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Posted - 2010.09.14 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Alt666
Get your newbie corp guys to pod jump into small high sec island. Give them mining ships and explain to them that they are prisoners in this high sec island and they need to give you 50mil trit a day for at least 20 days to earn an escort out through low sec again.
At least until the first one figures out the two-way nature of pod jumping.
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Nye Jaran
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Posted - 2010.09.14 13:07:00 -
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I was expecting a higher number of "Give me your stuff" posts. Thank you for the suggestions, everyone who responded.
Originally by: TheUndert0ker Stay in the game and offset the douche bag:human being ratio.
That made my morning.
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Tokas III
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.14 13:34:00 -
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Defend Rancer with Cat .
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Metalcali
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Posted - 2010.09.14 13:36:00 -
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Find a service that you can offer to other people. Estel has his jumpclone service for players, maybe you can find something that can be just as readily available and helpful.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.09.14 13:38:00 -
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Advertise in Crime & Punishment as one man free anti-griever corp "Superheroes Inc." Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2010.09.14 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo Gabriel Have you played any RTS games? Such as Starcraft, or Command and Conquer? In those games you blow up people's stuff and it is expected, because they can get more.
It's not the same at all. In RTS games you don't have to spend the same kind of time doing other activities to purchase your equipment. You get your pieces as a matter of course as you play a match. When the match is over, you move on.
EvE is forever, on the other hand. You can lose assets you spent months aquiring. The guy who blew you up is still gonna be around a year from now. To me, this tends to lend a feeling of ownership that RTS games just don't have.
I can certainly see where the OP is coming from in his post. However, I think if I became bored of industry and carebearing, I'd want to go out in a blaze of glory somehow.
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.09.14 14:40:00 -
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Not that I am currently a big fan, but why not spend some time playing in Red vs Blue? You could help newer players with ship replacement, get some fun PvP, and well, of all the PvP out there, it's the one time you know people are expecting to lose their ships no matter what.
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Budrick3
Devious Decorum
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Posted - 2010.09.14 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Nye Jaran I've been playing Eve for 4 years now. I have 4 accounts in total. All this time, I've been a carebear across every account. It's just my nature. I've lived in lowsec and 0.0 during my time in Eve, but it was always very... friendly.
I have pewpew'd, I've even won, occasionally. But I always feel bad afterwards. I've even gone so far as to replacing a person's ship after I popped it. I can't help it, I'm just a nice guy. As such, I can't PVP, because I feel like an ******* for blowing up others people's stuff. It doesn't matter that they can return the favor, to me that doesn't balance the equation.
Now, I find myself bored (of carebearing, specifically), to the extent that I'm thinking of selling my characters and leaving for good. So, like I said in the title, what is a nice guy to do in Eve?
Grow a pair between you legs, and stop reinbursing people for their ships. The more sadistic, ruthless, and cunning you can be while getting away with murder are just a few fun things you can do in eve. Do what you can not do in Real Life. Kill people, steal, buy prostitues, be a ****. Hold people ransom. Tempt fait in engagements while being out gunned. Use pills in game to increase your ***** size, and then swing it around. Stop being a pansy, and dont take crap advice like joining eve uni to teach new players. Let the new players learn of your can flipping wrath. C
And if all else fails after trying all those things, then give me all ur stuff, but not until u have tried growing a pair.
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.09.14 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: FunzzeR on 14/09/2010 16:33:24 Nice guys finish last.
Alternately, talk to the Scottish Fold to solve all your problems PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.09.14 16:34:00 -
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Not knowing exactly what your 4 tons do, it's kind of hard to guess at where you should go next. As I said, for PvP try Red vs Blue...
However, what about starting your own empire? Find a nice Hi sec island, located a bit away from the main routes. Do whatever you need to anchor a large POS or more in the hi sec island. Then, start building a manufacturing empire there. Mine locally, setup orders for other minerals, etc. Basically, try to corner the entire market in that small island and become the sole provider or at least the main provider of all materials. Sure it would be tough, and honestly not possible if you don't also do invention, but still, at least for ships, basic ammo, drones, etc, you could form your own little hi sec domain.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 14/09/2010 17:21:29 Edited to account for the market moguls.
Everyone knows the golden rule of EVE right?
By refraining from blowing people up while they are flying ships they can afford to lose (golden rule reference) you are directly harming multiple people.
The miner. The builder. If it was a faction ship or had faction mods the mission runner. The professional trader. The scam artist in Jita that would have made bank by selling the guy a CNR dirt cheap.
So by following your non-aggression policy (most of the time) you have economically violenced at least 2 to 3 other innocent people.
So knock it off, you animal. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you. |
Guilliman R
Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 14/09/2010 17:17:24 Everyone knows the golden rule of EVE right?
By refraining from blowing people up while they are flying ships they can afford to lose (golden rule reference) you are directly harming multiple people.
The miner. The builder. If it was a faction ship or had faction mods the mission runner.
So by following your non-aggression policy (most of the time) you have economically violenced at least 2 to 3 other innocent people.
So knock it off, you animal.
Don't forget the trader! Some of us (me) live off the billions trade revenue brings. If people stop dying, modules and ships and ammo etc stop selling so fast, so any profit from moving items goes away!
Please think of my wallet :( ------
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Myxx
Gallente Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia See if you can join eve university and help them train new players? I think they have some pvp going on because people war dec their corp so anyone who loses their ship had it coming
Stealth eve uni recruitment post isnt so stealthy. --
My opinion is my own and nothing but my own. Before putting words in my mouth, it might help to ask for clarification if you are confused. |
Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.09.14 17:47:00 -
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Join RVB then you can pew pew with people who are there specifically to fight.
Seriously that's part of what attracted me to RVB in the first place. I was a little like you describe wanting to avoid "non-consensual PVP" In RVB I found a place where everyone involved has signed up to fight. The members of the corporation the 3rd party war targets all come here too fight and blow up and lose ships.
I've since become a tad more ruthless as I see PVP as an essential part of what makes the interesting. Hell I even participated in ganking a hulk (people should be careful who they threaten you never know when it's going to be alt of someone with a lot of ruthless friends.)
Surprise PVP is a big part of what keeps the game interesting. The fact that you are never 100% safe is what separates EVE from all the other mindless time sinks in our lives.
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Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
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Posted - 2010.09.14 18:24:00 -
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As others have said, instead of killing enemies, keep your friends alive by flying a logistics.
Also, that "I feel sorry for him" feeling goes away after 5-10 kills.
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Dred Control
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Posted - 2010.09.14 19:07:00 -
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Between PI and the upcoming Incarna expansion, Eve is going more carebear than ever. I bet you'll be back.
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Rewind12
Heaven's Army Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.09.14 19:26:00 -
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Step 1 : Devote all your alts, and yourself again to farming. Build a nice big POS in jita, or another hub. I would go for jita though. Mine/buy the mins and BPO for a Titan. Build/buy the components, build it there. If it cannot be built, do whatever, and i mean WHATEVER you have to a (bunch of) dev/s and get a one-off pass to do so. Join npc corp. Be the first to provide a whole new market there.
............ Step 2 :
Let one year pass, let them all consider you the nicest guy ever. Cloak your titan away, with all the treasures inside.
*Step 2 optional.
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Adyny Rieph
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Posted - 2010.09.14 19:48:00 -
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I'm the same man, it's a curse, I've always been that way. In other MMO's it's fine because there's nothing to replace if you kill someone, but even then the only time I PvP'd was in arenas, where people GO to kill and be killed and it's not at all personal. It's particularly bad in this game because you just know you're missing out on what is perhaps the biggest and, what everybody says, the most fun part. So far, except for a single instance, everytime I've been involved in PvP in this game I've been completely outnumbered and had absolutely no chance of winning and so I just died, but I did try to fight back. The one time I was engaged in a PvP situation where I had a chance of winning, I don't know how the hell it happened because the other guy started it, he fired first, he had a better ship, maybe he/she was drunk or had just bought that character and had never played that race before, but I had the upper hand right from the start in a big way, had the guy scrambled and when it became clear he couldn't win he aligned to something but couldn't escape, so I stopped firing, switched off the scrambler and went about my business. I think I got more satisfaction out of that than I would have done if I'd killed the guy, because then I would have felt compelled to pay for the ship, like you said.
I've even had to stop playing FPS games. Last time I played one was over 2 years ago, and it was Battlefield 2. When I entered a game, I first of all applied to be commander. Commanders don't fight, they direct the battle and give support in the form of artillery strikes and enemy spotting. If I couldn't get that I joined the team that was losing and played medic or engineer and supported tanks/apc's by healing them in combat. Obviously I killed people but it was always to defend myself.
I don't know what you can do if you're bored, and I know I'll be where you are one day. There's the obvious thing that's left for you and that's pure PvP. You don't have to go looking for weaker targets like most PvPers in this game do, you can "pick on someone your own size", do some anti-pirating, or fly around lowsec/nullsec looking for fights but making sure they always fire first. Or there's PvP in the form of trading. People always talk about starting a new character and using the 5,000 credits you start with to make hundreds of millions in Jita by never undocking and just trading. You could join EVE university and train nooblets in PvP or in everything else they train them in. Or you could quit, if that's what you really want to do. I never will though. There's always something for people like us to do in EVE. Personally I just enjoy doing missions and chatting to and helping people in the noobie corp.
If you've been playing for 4 years I'd imagine you have a ton of money... Do lotteries or something. Do competitions where the prize is a PLEX. I don't know, that's all I've got. Hope you find something.
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Lady Ayeipsia
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Posted - 2010.09.14 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rewind12 Step 1 : Devote all your alts, and yourself again to farming. Build a nice big POS in jita, or another hub. I would go for jita though. Mine/buy the mins and BPO for a Titan. Build/buy the components, build it there. If it cannot be built, do whatever, and i mean WHATEVER you have to a (bunch of) dev/s and get a one-off pass to do so. Join npc corp. Be the first to provide a whole new market there.
No POS in Jita, it's a .9 system. I think the only normal market hub where you could anchor a POS would be Hek, and even there I'm betting all moons are taken.
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Rewind12
Heaven's Army Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.09.14 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Ayeipsia
Originally by: Rewind12 Step 1 : Devote all your alts, and yourself again to farming. Build a nice big POS in jita, or another hub. I would go for jita though. Mine/buy the mins and BPO for a Titan. Build/buy the components, build it there. If it cannot be built, do whatever, and i mean WHATEVER you have to a (bunch of) dev/s and get a one-off pass to do so. Join npc corp. Be the first to provide a whole new market there.
No POS in Jita, it's a .9 system. I think the only normal market hub where you could anchor a POS would be Hek, and even there I'm betting all moons are taken.
I did mention doing WHATEVER you had to and get a one-off pass. I still mean WHATEVER.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.09.14 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: Barakkus on 14/09/2010 20:57:03
Originally by: Myxx
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia See if you can join eve university and help them train new players? I think they have some pvp going on because people war dec their corp so anyone who loses their ship had it coming
Stealth eve uni recruitment post isnt so stealthy.
They generally won't take characters older than 3 months, if you're over 3 months there's 2 people you can talk to, and you probably will never get to talk to them. I gave up after 2-3 months of trying.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Rewind12
Heaven's Army Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.09.14 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
They generally won't take characters older than 3 months, if you're over 3 months there's 2 people you can talk to, and you probably will never get to talk to them. I gave up after 3 months of trying.
3 months is the average it takes a player to get bored of exploring content, and choose it's path. That makes it angry. Don't want to give the angry man an army of noobs now would you? You cannot fathom the outcome !
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Loyo Sett
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Posted - 2010.09.15 20:54:00 -
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sometimes its fun to start over from the very beginning, newbie ship and 5000 isk in the bank.
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d026
temp holding
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Posted - 2010.09.15 22:26:00 -
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how about.. i pay you to blow me up? would you like that?^^
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Khanaris Asgarth
Eternium Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.15 22:30:00 -
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Definitely look into the options of helping a corp out, look into eve uni or join a cause.
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