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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.15 03:09:00 -
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CCP To Unveil Wold of Darkness: The Grand Masquerade
And discuss!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.09.15 05:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
CCP To Unveil Wold of Darkness: The Grand Masquerade
And discuss!
Interesting discussion there.
I get the impression that the game has a lot of that "emo goth fashion plate" thing going. Hopefully there is no local chat or it can be turned off lest we are bombarded with statements like "nobody cares", "my kid really let me down today", and "do I look fat in this?".
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Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.15 05:38:00 -
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I just hope its a viable fantasy mmo compared to the glut of other generic fantasy mmos out there. Lotro is pretty cool now that its f2p as it sticks pretty faithfully to the lore of tolkien so maybe wod will follow the same path..
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.15 05:42:00 -
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Anyone who leaves Eve to play this crap will not be allowed back... I will need your stuff
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2010.09.15 06:57:00 -
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blah blah emo vampires are stupid etc fix lag etc etc
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Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.15 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker
Anyone who leaves Eve to play this crap will not be allowed back... I will need your stuff
Meh. Leaving eve is a long established tradition amoungst the bitter vets.. We always come back. 
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.15 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: Corozan Aspinall on 15/09/2010 07:07:49
Originally by: Intense Thinker
Anyone who leaves Eve to play this crap will not be allowed back... I will need your stuff
I'm going to stick my neck out and suggest it will probably be quite good!
The Masquerade stuff was pretty great in it's day with a colourful, rich and sincerely fun setting and bloodlines etc. Admittedly (in p&p terms) not so much in the latest iterations, but that was more indicative of a company stuck in a rut with one selling product and no demand for new stuff rather than 'terminal' fail.
CCP don't make crap. White Wolf have some great IP. I think it will a cut above the emo goth 27ft sword and leather pants stuff.
Looking forward to the news ..
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.15 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
CCP don't make crap. White Wolf have some great IP. I think it will be a cut above the emo goth 27ft sword and leather pants stuff.
I do hope it will be a rutheless sandbox, and not an emo-goth themepark however.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.15 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
CCP don't make crap. White Wolf have some great IP. I think it will be a cut above the emo goth 27ft sword and leather pants stuff.
I do hope it will be a rutheless sandbox, and not an emo-goth themepark however.
Well why did CCP want WW? To make another wonderfully complex adult 'niche' mmo with 250k subs? Or to make a mainstream mmo with millions of subs? Jury's out on that one tbh. I hope the former. But its a business ...
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.15 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 15/09/2010 11:09:35
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
blah blah emo vampires are stupid etc fix lag etc etc
VtM is by far not an emo RPG system. Do not let the cluessness of the masses, due the basdardification of the vampire genre by current pop culture, fool you about the darkness and brutality of VtM.
That being said, I can not speak for the upcomming game.
Slade
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.15 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 15/09/2010 11:09:35
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
blah blah emo vampires are stupid etc fix lag etc etc
VtM is by far not an emo RPG system. Do not let the cluessness of the masses, due the basdardification of the vampire genre by current pop culture, fool you about the darkness and brutality of VtM.
That being said, I can not speak for the upcomming game.
Slade
This, tbh. I used tp play teh penn adn paper RPG back in my student days, its a pretty interesting RPG.
All this sparkling vampire **** really ruind the genere tho.
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yani dumyat
Minmatar
Black Storm Cartel
The Orca Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.15 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Hopefully there is no local chat or it can be turned off lest we are bombarded with statements like "nobody cares", "my kid really let me down today", and "do I look fat in this?".
Hopefully there will be a local chat so we can hear things like.
"Why did you just gank me, I hate you."
"I'm going to slit my wrists and hang myself now, I hope you feel guilty."
"I hex you. You are the evil devil spawn and I will forever curse you in my morbid dreams."
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.09.15 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: yani dumyat
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Hopefully there is no local chat or it can be turned off lest we are bombarded with statements like "nobody cares", "my kid really let me down today", and "do I look fat in this?".
Hopefully there will be a local chat so we can hear things like.
"Why did you just gank me, I hate you."
"I'm going to slit my wrists and hang myself now, I hope you feel guilty."
"I hex you. You are the evil devil spawn and I will forever curse you in my morbid dreams."
Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it?
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.09.15 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 15/09/2010 15:53:09
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
CCP To Unveil Wold of Darkness: The Grand Masquerade
And discuss!
Vampire: The masquerade is one of the best game I have played really. Its mature style and content plus the story line and gaming quality hooked me for ages! So if there is one game that can compete with Eve online, it would be a vampire masquerade MMO...
Originally by: Dianabolic
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.15 17:40:00 -
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I demand goons all roll Malkavians! Go forth and spread the blood madness!
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Suneai
Gallente
Space Tide Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
I demand goons all roll Malkavians! Go forth and spread the blood madness!
No, they'd have to all roll clan Tremere and use their magic to cause mass suicide on all other players.
Oh God, I hope that power isn't added to the game. :\
I hated people in the pen & paper groups doing that at a major point of the story, only to have it fail and backfire on half the group.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:48:00 -
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Pfft. As long as they do a proper job with the Giovanni I'm in.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.09.15 20:11:00 -
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The demented battlecry when slaughtering the poser vampires is all of a sudden clear, 'sparkle, sparkle!'
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.09.16 01:09:00 -
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Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 16/09/2010 01:10:38
One thing to expect is not to expect much.
WOW is like a theme park.
Eve is a blob/camp fest.
WOD is.... what?
I will try it to give some support to CCP, like a home team thing, but the minute I see someone chatting in local about cross dressing and how their toon is supposed to look like how they want to be, I'm going to have to leave.
(you see it's hard to play with your palm firmly planted on your face)
edit: Hey, is this stuff related to AD&D Ravenloft in some way?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.09.16 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: yani dumyat
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Hopefully there is no local chat or it can be turned off lest we are bombarded with statements like "nobody cares", "my kid really let me down today", and "do I look fat in this?".
Hopefully there will be a local chat so we can hear things like.
"Why did you just gank me, I hate you."
"I'm going to slit my wrists and hang myself now, I hope you feel guilty."
"I hex you. You are the evil devil spawn and I will forever curse you in my morbid dreams."
LOL
More like:
"Whatever. Nothing new here. Just like my real life".
(Though to be honest in WOW PVP trying to play a fire mage and getting swarmed horribly by those &*%^&%#$( locs and their DOTS I said something like that)
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Matthias Howe
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2010.09.16 20:36:00 -
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A friend of mine was a LARPer with this stuff for Vampire: The Masquerade under White Wolf publishing. He did it for the hot goth chicks...and the fact that it was brutal and unyielding.
Might be interesting.
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So Sensational
GREY COUNCIL
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.09.16 20:43:00 -
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As long as we can grief some emos I'm game.
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Barakkus
Ishukone Institute of Technology
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Posted - 2010.09.16 21:41:00 -
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Considering the concepts behind Vampire the Masquerade were a cold harsh political struggle, it fits in with the cold harsh universe that CCP envisioned with EVE.
It might be quite good, and probably the best version of an MMO that anyone could put out for that game. Anyone else would have made it WoW-ish.
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.16 22:14:00 -
[24]
I wish some ccp devs woudl comment on their counter parts on how awesome this reveil is going to be.
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2010.09.16 22:35:00 -
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I can't wait TBH.
200 man vampire gangs, getting stuck at opening a door. F1-F8 combat with bats (drones) causing lag. Goongoths disbanding the Band of Emos clan with the help of a rogue Archvampire. Vampire doorcampers in dark alleys.
Well, I'll have to play 1-2 months just to be leet and tell everyone 5 years later how cool it was early on.
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.16 22:56:00 -
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if the beta is next week then im gonna take a punt on this and give it a shot...tbh honest it simply cannot be any worse than when i did the eve beta.so in for a penny in for a pound
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.09.17 01:41:00 -
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Perhaps CCP could get real campy on this one and let us land ships on that world (of darkness of course).
Kind of like those sitcoms where a character from one sitcom visits on another one.
(always made me want to go on a shooting spree - in game - when I saw that).
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Kiritsubo
Ritual Suicide
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Posted - 2010.09.17 12:47:00 -
[28]
I'll hold out until they add Garou to the game. Five hundred pounds of hairy death.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.17 13:19:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
edit: Hey, is this stuff related to AD&D Ravenloft in some way?
No relation at all other then it has vampires and werewolves.
Slade
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Viral Effect
Caldari
BRAINDEAD Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.17 14:07:00 -
[30]
I wonder how many Eve online subscribers will refuse to play this.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.17 16:37:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Corozan Aspinall on 17/09/2010 16:39:17
Originally by: Viral Effect
I wonder how many Eve online subscribers will refuse to play this.
I'm sure CCP will want to target the WW crowd first and foremost, but, they'd be dumb to ignore the potential cross over subs from EVE. Presuming it has enough complexity and maturity to appeal to nerds who do or did do paper and dice stuff. Myself included.
How many EVE players would pass up the chance to be in before the lock on a new CCP MMO?  That incentive alone will result in a lot of non-emo-goth capsuleer trial accounts I bet! CCP would be pretty dense to not offer active EVE subscribers a discount to sign up monthly to WoD. Doing so would result in a massive influx of players immediately which is good for everyone.
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bobinbooob
Minmatar
Militaris Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.17 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba ForumWhoor
Originally by: Intense Thinker
Anyone who leaves Eve to play this crap will not be allowed back... I will need your stuff
Meh. Leaving eve is a long established tradition amoungst the bitter vets.. We always come back.
lol so true
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SFX Bladerunner
Minmatar
Black Serpent Technologies
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.17 23:05:00 -
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I want a new Vamipre: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.
That game kicked so much ass it made Chuck Norris run for his money.
Is this going to be it? or am I simply being confused by the names?
Man.. times used to be easier when there weren't 10 different games all with similar/thesame namings.
Hell, even sequels to actual games (and movies for that matter) have been choosing to forgo name-uniqueness.
(AVP for example)
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Reiisha
Evolution
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.18 13:09:00 -
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I very much doubt that WoD is going to be a themepark MMO.
For one, it's not CCP's style. They have proven that even though their sole product is a niche MMO they can still manage to fund 2 completely different game projects with just that revenue. They're not wanting for money.
Then there's the entire setting of WoD. It's plotting, taking people (usually other players) down, playing dirty tricks on others and generally doing whatever the hell you want. Doesn't seem very themeparky to me?
And lastly, CCP knows better than anyone that you don't have to be like WoW to be succesful - I don't think they will suddenly turn around on that.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Jhagiti Tyran
Invicta.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 01:22:00 -
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Will it come with a /wrists emote?
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.09.19 02:52:00 -
[36]
Originally by: SFX Bladerunner
I want a new Vamipre: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.
That game kicked so much ass it made Chuck Norris run for his money.
Is this going to be it? or am I simply being confused by the names?
Man.. times used to be easier when there weren't 10 different games all with similar/thesame namings.
Hell, even sequels to actual games (and movies for that matter) have been choosing to forgo name-uniqueness.
(AVP for example)
Nomnomnom @ Masquerade Bloodlines. Absolutely brilliant game 
Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it?
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Ren Nekk
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.09.19 23:35:00 -
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The idea that VtM is not emogothcrap is laughable. It always has been, always will be, even with Twilight in picture. Point is, maybe emogothcrap isn't so bad after all
Seriously though, has there ever been a time when having VtM books around wasn't embarrassing? I don't think so! |
Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 23:40:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Ren Nekk
The idea that VtM is not emogothcrap is laughable. It always has been, always will be, even with Twilight in picture. Point is, maybe emogothcrap isn't so bad after all
Seriously though, has there ever been a time when having VtM books around wasn't embarrassing? I don't think so!
Mate I hide my Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay books whenever someone visits ..
The 14" strapon black ribbed tickler I leave out tho. **** em if they can't take a joke!
Seriously. Everyone has secret hobbies. Most of my corp mates are city types who go to great lengths to make sure nobody ever knows they play 'internet spaceships'. |
Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.20 03:14:00 -
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While its been a few years sinse I've played any table top games, White Wolf's world of darkness does not assume goth or emo (even if a lot of goth/emo stuff has a few ties to it)
The version I played had more in common with John Carpenter's Vampire movie than "twilight" (Main story teller was a retired Navy E-8 (Senior Chief Petty Officer). About half the group was ex-military, and the other half college kids that could behave well enough to be invited back by a group of veterans.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.20 17:53:00 -
[40]
just a few more days.
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Aragoni
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Posted - 2010.09.23 13:04:00 -
[41]
TGM starts today so.... Brace yourselves! 
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Thermoss Devlin
StarFleet Enterprises
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.23 18:22:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Thermoss Devlin on 23/09/2010 18:26:57
Edited by: Thermoss Devlin on 23/09/2010 18:23:28
I just wonder will it cover all White Wolf's creations or only vampire?
I just hope that if it is Vampire they will go to some part int he footstepf of Troika Games. In my opinion White Wolf's vampire is -NOT- emogoth-like.
It is alot more complicated and interesting than that.
For those who does not know maybe this will clear some of the things up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aa8B7hIynE&p=5E810E1677121C0E&playnext=1&index=6
I think and hope that CCP will take influence from things simliar to this. WoD is a very dark and violent world. No mercy at all whatsoever. I myself will play this MMO as well as EVE.
I just imagine the vision of being a prince over a region or something or even if possible a scheriff would be so awesome.
This of course depends on if they go by the 3th edition of Vampire The Masquerade and not Vampire The Requiem. If they go by Requiem I have no clue of how they will do it becuase in Requiem well, let's just say that a knifecut is not considered nonlethal damage as it is in Vampire The Masquerade. Thus if they go by the story in Vampire The Requiem a knifecut could kill a vampire, not a big chance but it could if you are very unlucky.
I allthough trust in CCP so far they have manage to impress me with EVE and if they take what is good in EVE and implement that into WoD. I just barely can hold my breath of what there is to see in WoD.
i hope they will make it as brutal and unmercyful and unforgiving as EVE.
As of the fact that WoD is plotting and it mostly gives you as a player the chance of doing what the hell you want for isntance go out on the street and rip a humans head of or empty them on blood. Of course this has consequences. Specially in Vampire The Masquerade as of fact that you did a Masquerade violation meaning that certain things can be done about your misbehaviour.
All in all though I know that CCP will do a great job. So far they have proven that they don't need to be like WoW to be good at it.
Hailgrains (?) hit,
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jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.09.23 19:40:00 -
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is the game out ?...if so wheres the link cos i cant find it 
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Indimiel
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Posted - 2010.09.23 21:11:00 -
[44]
About time something official emerges on this. I mean the companies merged back in what? 2006? And all that came out of it to date has been an uninspiring card game.
I think if CCP stick with what they know and create a harsh world built on social mechanics more than grindy-wowy boss battles, this could be very very good with their sexy graphics engine.
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Thermoss Devlin
Minmatar
StarFleet Enterprises
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.24 09:36:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Indimiel
About time something official emerges on this. I mean the companies merged back in what? 2006? And all that came out of it to date has been an uninspiring card game.
I think if CCP stick with what they know and create a harsh world built on social mechanics more than grindy-wowy boss battles, this could be very very good with their sexy graphics engine.
Oh yes, just imagine the possibilities. I hope they will only make one server for the WoD MMO as well. Would just be so awesome.
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cut in crops!
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.09.24 10:26:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Intense Thinker
Anyone who leaves Eve to play this crap will not be allowed back... I will need your stuff
hey I'm gonna play both!
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.09.24 12:35:00 -
[47]
This makes me feel so old.
Man, I remember when CCP had ZERO games up. Now they're getting ready to launch their second, with a third waiting in the wings.
I remember when WoD was just beginning to get mentioned...
Remember getting kicked out of alpha for illegally sneaking in... (NDA be damned, young me wanted a bantam with lasers - PWN SHIP)
God. I've been addicted to CCP stuff since 2002.
Good on you fellas. I'll deffo be giving WoD a try. If only to terrorize the goths.
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Sophie Telrunya
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Posted - 2010.09.24 13:47:00 -
[48]
Countdown
3 hours to go...
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.09.24 14:31:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
This makes me feel so old.
Man, I remember when CCP had ZERO games up. Now they're getting ready to launch their second, with a third waiting in the wings.
I remember when WoD was just beginning to get mentioned...
Remember getting kicked out of alpha for illegally sneaking in... (NDA be damned, young me wanted a bantam with lasers - PWN SHIP)
God. I've been addicted to CCP stuff since 2002.
Good on you fellas. I'll deffo be giving WoD a try. If only to terrorize the goths.
I might start a production alt that produces razorblades
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.24 17:06:00 -
[50]
It seems like the countdown operates on the computer's clock, meaning that it will hit 0:0:0 at different times depending on your timezone. I'm at GMT+2, and it's reached zero. A friend of mine in England has one hour on the countdown on his screen.
Guess we have to wait 7 more hours if we're waiting for 7PM New Orleans time.
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.09.24 22:53:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Skippermonkey on 24/09/2010 22:57:45
Hehe, true to form CCP development.
Got all the detailed bits down, but theres always something silly that passes the filter
heh.. photos being put up of the event live
http://smphotograph.zenfolio.com/p657864265
lol, so THATS what table top RPG'ers look like, (i swear Dude Love is in there somehow)
(maybe they were yesterdays photos)
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.25 00:33:00 -
[52]
Cam of teaser trailer
On a side note CCP demand in game footage asap! You know your dev teams, convince them to give a 1 min game trailer of in game stuff.
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Aragoni
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Posted - 2010.09.25 01:35:00 -
[53]
Not long until I can create a Nosferatu, name him "Count Orlok" and kick some major ass! 
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.09.25 01:36:00 -
[54]
SO what happened?
A bunch of peple got dressed up, had a launch party, and watched an intro video instead of any actual gameplay?
If i missed sometihng plz let me know.
Originally by: CCP Capslock
OH GOD THE TESTING
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Captain Torgo
The Geedunk Expedition
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Posted - 2010.09.25 04:04:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Skippermonkey
SO what happened?
A bunch of peple got dressed up, had a launch party, and watched an intro video instead of any actual gameplay?
If i missed sometihng plz let me know.
Don't worry. We've already been assured that this game won't receive any love from the devs for at least 18 months because they're too busy working on another MMO...
oh wait... THIS is that other MMO.
WTH happened? Did they skimp out on devs there too?
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Thermoss Devlin
Minmatar
StarFleet Enterprises
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.25 05:10:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Thermoss Devlin on 25/09/2010 05:16:18
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
Cam of teaser trailer
On a side note CCP demand in game footage asap! You know your dev teams, convince them to give a 1 min game trailer of in game stuff.
Well, that trailer had all that I expected it to have. I really feels like vampire in that trailer and the things she says is exactly what the vampire's in white wolf's world really is.
Anyway, looks awesome. But I would allthough say that goth is not the way of vampire. I mean a ventrue does not look like a goth they are mainly aristocrates.
The clan closest to the goth culture in my opinion would be Toreador.
But of course I do not know if this game is based on Vampire The Masquerade or Vampire The Requiem. If it is based on Vampire The Masquerade you will probably have these clans to choose from:
Independent:
Assamite
Camarilla:
Brujah
Gangrel
Nosferatu
Toreador
Ventrue
Malkavian
Tremere
The Sabbat:
Brujah Antitribu
Gangrel Antitribu
Nosferatu Antitribu
Toreador Antitribu
Lasombra
Giovanni
Cappadocian
Followers Of Set
Malkavian Antitribu
Ravnos
Tzimisce
-IF- CCP includs the Sabbat, which I of course hope they will....but one limitation to if you have the Camarilla, the Sabbat and the Anarch you will have three different sides in the game mechanics which I dunno if it will work out properly. For CCP's sake I think that if they make the game based on the Vampire The Requiem ruleset and story.
The thing is that in Vampire The Masquerade everyone knows that Caine has existed/exists which I guess makes things abit more limited and in the Requiem thingsare alot more uncertain. Where for example no one really knows where the vampires came from the beginning. There are no things like the Camarilla or the Sabbat.
Also there is only five clans.
Daeva
Gangrel
Mekhet
Nosferatu
Ventrue
The rest of the clans are so called "bloodlines".
Well as last words I only hope that CCP really will put down alot of effort into making this game as awesome as EVE is.
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RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.09.25 05:34:00 -
[57]
It was confirmed that it will be based on Vampire the masquerede so expect legions of goon tremere forcing everyone to kill themselves.
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Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.25 05:43:00 -
[58]
Welp there goes the lotro sub..
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Malcofist Falconpunch
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Posted - 2010.09.25 13:54:00 -
[59]
1.) HELLS YEA!
2.) Masq setting? Double Hells Yea!
...and isn't LOTRO free to play now? lol
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny
Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.09.25 14:28:00 -
[60]
So are they gonna tell us when it's to be released or do we have another Incarna on our hands?
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Malcofist Falconpunch
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Posted - 2010.09.25 14:59:00 -
[61]
This was just literally announced. Give a week or two for a Dev interview and perhaps we should get some luck. But then again we are dealing with CCP.
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Aragoni
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Posted - 2010.09.25 15:08:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Astenion
So are they gonna tell us when it's to be released or do we have another Incarna on our hands?
"Ardwulf's Lair reports that the MMO will come out in 2012 at the earliest, and that it "will have a focus on player politics and social interaction.""
http://www.massively.com/category/world-of-darkness/
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.25 16:14:00 -
[63]
2012 at the earliest. In other news, Elvis crash-lands UFO on head of Loch Ness monster!
Seriously you could be dead by then. Or worse, in full time employment.
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Biolaja Tista
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2010.09.25 16:35:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Biolaja Tista on 25/09/2010 16:36:27
I'll be sure to save a shotgun blast to the head for every Malkavian that looks at me funny. Malkavians are nothing more than utterly useless moronic stooges who spend all their time annoying everyone else and acting like dunderheads and running a muck. They should be exterminated down to every last one.
I say we kill the Malkavians! Who's with me?!
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Thermoss Devlin
Minmatar
StarFleet Enterprises
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.25 16:51:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Thermoss Devlin on 25/09/2010 16:53:38
Edited by: Thermoss Devlin on 25/09/2010 16:53:15
Originally by: Malcofist Falconpunch
1.) HELLS YEA!
2.) Masq setting? Double Hells Yea!
...and isn't LOTRO free to play now? lol
Oh yesss!!
So godamn awesome:)
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
It was confirmed that it will be based on Vampire the masquerede so expect legions of goon tremere forcing everyone to kill themselves.
I didn't see that but hell yeah this is sure to be an awesome game.
I just hope it won't be another Incarna exapsnion as they said there.
Originally by: Biolaja Tista
Edited by: Biolaja Tista on 25/09/2010 16:36:27
I'll be sure to save a shotgun blast to the head for every Malkavian that looks at me funny. Malkavians are nothing more than utterly useless moronic stooges who spend all their time annoying everyone else and acting like dunderheads and running a muck. They should be exterminated down to every last one.
I say we kill the Malkavians! Who's with me?!
I am with you man.
I am so gonna love to play either Gangrel or Ventrue or even Aassamite if they are playeable.
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Dzajic
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.25 23:21:00 -
[66]
Only Vamps? What is this nonsense CCP? I want my Mage so I can melt faces (and die horribly in a Paradox backlash).
Oh well, there will always (hopefully) be Malkavians, Tszimice and Lasombra, and masses of prettyboy Ventrue and Toreador to troll and gank.
Polished content =/= broken and unbalanced content. |
Thermoss Devlin
Minmatar
StarFleet Enterprises
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.26 02:50:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Dzajic
Only Vamps? What is this nonsense CCP? I want my Mage so I can melt faces (and die horribly in a Paradox backlash).
Oh well, there will always (hopefully) be Malkavians, Tszimice and Lasombra, and masses of prettyboy Ventrue and Toreador to troll and gank.
You forgot how brutally powerful a Gangrel or a Brujah or even an Assamite can be:)
When talking about magic I have only thing to say Thaumaturygy (Blood magic)
Thaumaturygy
The Discipline of Thaumaturgy encompasses blood magic and other sorcerous of arts. Thaumaturgy is the unique possession of the Tremere and one of its most jealously guarded secrets. Certain kindred rumors even speak members of the Warlocks' clan. Clan Tremere created this discipline by combining mortal wizardry with power of vampiric vitae. Thought its existence is not widely known by mortal mages and wizards, it is seen as a Thaumaturgy is a versatile and powerful discipline. Like Necromancy, its practice is divided into two parts: path and rituals. Thaumaturgical paths are application of the vampire's knowledge of blood magic, allowing him/her to create effects at her whim. Rituals are more formulaic in nature, most akin to the magical "spells" of bygone nights. Because so many different paths and rituals are available to the arcane Tremere, on never knows what to expect when confronted with a practitioner of this discipline.
I mean Thaumaturygy Auspex and Dominate is a really nice set of disciplines when speaking of the fact that a Tremere within the Camarilla is very powerful both stat wise and socially. Together with the ventruboys and good looking toeradors they are the ones that runs the Camarilla so i am really looking forward to playing any of the Sabbat clans. Specially Assamite antitribue, Lasombra etc.
Specially if it is as politically. I would really like to play any of the socially focused clans. But anyhow I think that CCP is gonna make a great job. One of the things that worries me though is how they are going to make PVP and PVE etc. And what will happen if you get killed....will you get into some kind of torpor? or something.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.26 10:54:00 -
[68]
if it has malkavian than that means instant-win.
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AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2010.09.26 19:02:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Thermoss Devlin
One of the things that worries me though is how they are going to make PVP and PVE etc.
I think this is a good question.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.09.26 23:49:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Thermoss Devlin
...And what will happen if you get killed....will you get into some kind of torpor? or something.
You'll respawn after having sat through 5 minutes of Twilight highlights to classic lovesongs.
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Thermoss Devlin
Minmatar
StarFleet Enterprises
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.27 00:33:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Thermoss Devlin
...And what will happen if you get killed....will you get into some kind of torpor? or something.
You'll respawn after having sat through 5 minutes of Twilight highlights to classic lovesongs.
To be honest I have never watched any of the Twilight movies and I never will.
I think it is a violation and a disgrace towards White Wolf's vampire. But of course this is only my humble opinion. But I would hate to even think about a mix of White Wolf's vampire and Twilight the little I know about it is not really good so to speak. I do not wish to know more since the only really true vampire universe in my opinion is White Wolf's.
Well what I am wondering how they are going to make it. In EVE it makes sense but if you die as a vampire you are dead if you are not put into torpor or whatever it is called in english it is a state where you as a vampire will be inmobile for some time. This would indeed be a possibility and I really hope CCP reads this. But I guess they probably allready know all I have said here.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.27 07:42:00 -
[72]
I would personally have preferred an MMO based on Werewolf - The Apocalypse tbh, but this will do just fine.
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Thermoss Devlin
Minmatar
StarFleet Enterprises
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.27 08:13:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
I would personally have preferred an MMO based on Werewolf - The Apocalypse tbh, but this will do just fine.
I guess the audience for Werewolf, Mage and Exalted is not as big as the one for Vampire.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.27 08:28:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Thermoss Devlin
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
I would personally have preferred an MMO based on Werewolf - The Apocalypse tbh, but this will do just fine.
I guess the audience for Werewolf, Mage and Exalted is not as big as the one for Vampire.
yet it's WoD, so we might get Werewolf, Mage and Exalted mixed up at some point.
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GREY COUNCIL
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.09.27 09:20:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Thermoss Devlin
Originally by: Dzajic
Only Vamps? What is this nonsense CCP? I want my Mage so I can melt faces (and die horribly in a Paradox backlash).
Oh well, there will always (hopefully) be Malkavians, Tszimice and Lasombra, and masses of prettyboy Ventrue and Toreador to troll and gank.
You forgot how brutally powerful a Gangrel or a Brujah or even an Assamite can be:)
When talking about magic I have only thing to say Thaumaturygy (Blood magic)
Thaumaturygy
The Discipline of Thaumaturgy encompasses blood magic and other sorcerous of arts. Thaumaturgy is the unique possession of the Tremere and one of its most jealously guarded secrets. Certain kindred rumors even speak members of the Warlocks' clan. Clan Tremere created this discipline by combining mortal wizardry with power of vampiric vitae. Thought its existence is not widely known by mortal mages and wizards, it is seen as a Thaumaturgy is a versatile and powerful discipline. Like Necromancy, its practice is divided into two parts: path and rituals. Thaumaturgical paths are application of the vampire's knowledge of blood magic, allowing him/her to create effects at her whim. Rituals are more formulaic in nature, most akin to the magical "spells" of bygone nights. Because so many different paths and rituals are available to the arcane Tremere, on never knows what to expect when confronted with a practitioner of this discipline.
I mean Thaumaturygy Auspex and Dominate is a really nice set of disciplines when speaking of the fact that a Tremere within the Camarilla is very powerful both stat wise and socially. Together with the ventruboys and good looking toeradors they are the ones that runs the Camarilla so i am really looking forward to playing any of the Sabbat clans. Specially Assamite antitribue, Lasombra etc.
Specially if it is as politically. I would really like to play any of the socially focused clans. But anyhow I think that CCP is gonna make a great job. One of the things that worries me though is how they are going to make PVP and PVE etc. And what will happen if you get killed....will you get into some kind of torpor? or something.
Thanks for making me feel like less of a loser with my internet spaceships addiction.
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clixoras
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Posted - 2010.09.27 09:49:00 -
[76]
Somehow the concept is attracting. And heh. they can copy the NOS code from EVE :)
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2010.09.27 12:58:00 -
[77]
Originally by: clixoras
Somehow the concept is attracting. And heh. they can copy the NOS code from EVE :)
The best post in this thread as of yet.
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Alpheias
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Posted - 2010.09.27 16:36:00 -
[78]
No Cappadocians...! :emotear: |
Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2010.09.27 17:18:00 -
[79]
Ohhhh .. I can finally play a Nosferatu and Obfuscate everything around, or perhaps a Tremere for the sheer joy of blood magic/rituals.
Wonder if we could go and Walk the Path of Screams, the True Descent, Infernalism ... <quiver in perverse delight>
Man OWOD is hands down the best GAME SETTING ever, up to this day I still reread occasionally some of the core book of the day. Requiem is just a hollow shell.
Also I dont hate Malkavians, I hate the Setites and Tzimisce. Malkavians have been the most entertaining fun of the ages, and a Nosferatu dressed as a clown alongside a Malkvavian dressed as a Carnie showman introducing me to a group of helpless families was up to this point in my life one of the best roleplaying sessions I ever had. Such a wonderful show. I felt right in this MOVIE . The loss of humanity that night was a burden but worth it
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Archipelago Theory
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Thermoss Devlin
Minmatar
StarFleet Enterprises
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.28 00:37:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Thermoss Devlin on 28/09/2010 00:44:54
Edited by: Thermoss Devlin on 28/09/2010 00:42:26
Edited by: Thermoss Devlin on 28/09/2010 00:39:32
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
I would personally have preferred an MMO based on Werewolf - The Apocalypse tbh, but this will do just fine.
Yeah true, We will see what CCP have in stores for us.
Originally by: clixoras
Somehow the concept is attracting. And heh. they can copy the NOS code from EVE :)
That would be awesome, I do not know how they would do it though. I mean hwo do you divide into cities or what?, becuase if the game is going to focus on politis and socialinteraction there probably has to be something like EVE Online's 0.0 regions or something that is worth of conquerig or at least something that players can own personally or something.
Originally by: Alpheias
No Cappadocians...! :emotear:
Well Cappadocians would not work as it is not going to be dark ages.
Originally by: Brujo Loco
Ohhhh .. I can finally play a Nosferatu and Obfuscate everything around, or perhaps a Tremere for the sheer joy of blood magic/rituals.
Wonder if we could go and Walk the Path of Screams, the True Descent, Infernalism ... <quiver in perverse delight>
Man OWOD is hands down the best GAME SETTING ever, up to this day I still reread occasionally some of the core book of the day. Requiem is just a hollow shell.
Also I dont hate Malkavians, I hate the Setites and Tzimisce. Malkavians have been the most entertaining fun of the ages, and a Nosferatu dressed as a clown alongside a Malkvavian dressed as a Carnie showman introducing me to a group of helpless families was up to this point in my life one of the best roleplaying sessions I ever had. Such a wonderful show. I felt right in this MOVIE . The loss of humanity that night was a burden but worth it
Talking about Malkavians, the funniest roleplaying session I have experienced was when two of my friend's played a ****ofrenic Malkavian. The one part of it was more or less a nymphoman while the other were the exact opposite. It was extremely fun becuast this was also applied to alot of other things like decison-making and alike.
I just hope they really will give a huge amount of thought how they are going to make this game so that it won't fail. The actual setting is worth all the golds and diamondsin the world. I really really hope they give Vampire The Masquerade what it deserves.
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Alpheias
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Posted - 2010.09.28 08:02:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Thermoss Devlin
Originally by: Alpheias
No Cappadocians...! :emotear:
Well Cappadocians would not work as it is not going to be dark ages.
Wow. You are a bright guy, thank you so much for stating the obvious. Got any other tricks up your sleeve that will shock and amaze me?
As for the game itself, I'll just get the cynical grumpiness out of the way and state now that it is *going* to be a theme park. Why you might ask? Look again at the audience that WoD is trying to attract...  |
Elayna Poppins
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Posted - 2010.09.28 13:03:00 -
[82]
Below is stuff taken from a guy who was at the Q&A event.
Direct MMO Stuff:
- the game has been in development for approximately 3 years.
- This has been slowed by keeping up with EVE
- Preparing to develop 'Carbon technology' framework for what should provide state-of-the-art character customizations, unlike any seen in any game before, for the MMO.
- They are particularly psyched about the customization framework. They claim they have in fact, hired a fashion consultant, to help make the system more realistic and stylish.
- Another 1.5 years has been spent preparing the actual gameplay
- They have increased their staff by 6 times the previous head count
- They've put 629K man-hours into this MMO -- so far.
Regarding Coffee House, Sandbox and Themeparks that we've discussed on the forum, Burgermeister writes; "From what they said, these three spheres should be closely tied and interconnected together, essentially running the economy of blood in the game. "
The four overall themes they intended to have in the game are:
- Mystery
- Romance
- Power
- Danger
"For concrete facts, we learned that the game will be ready, by earliest, 2012. The game will be based on Vampire: the Masquerade. Specifically, in the initial release of the game, there will only be vampires as supernatural, playable characters. There will however, be elements from Werewolf, Changling, etc., likely in the form of environmental content, and NPCs."
-One of their criterias for success is to make the game as accessible as possible. Specifically they want to get women involved in the game, as well as casual players. Also, they want to maximize the amount of human interaction that happens in the game.
-They confirmed that the game will not be combat intensive (unless you choose as such). Knowing, influencing the correct people is arguable more important than being the biggest brawler.
-They will not be catering to immaturity in the game, however, they would like to see these types of offenses policed by players, rather than in-game mechanics.
"I personally offered up one of the board's suggestions of Permanent Death as a solution to controlling an otherwise glut of Kindred population within any one area. This was one of the suggestions that got applause from the audience. I also couldn't help but notice two of the content developers smirking -- I think permanent death is a serious possibility in the MMO. A lot of other fans made the same or similar suggestions. This remark also drew out a comment from the panel, suggesting that the game world would consist of one server rather than multiple servers, after someone else suggested that some servers offer this permanent death option while others did not. (His response "Servers? What servers?") " :chinscratch:
-They confirmed that factions and territories will almost certainly be a big part of the game.
-They confirmed that the game will definitely contains gay clubs. This is an excellent angle to cater to the gay and lesbian audience.
-They again, did confirm, that starting off there would only be Vampires, but one of the other developers also confirmed that there would be playable human classes -- although nothing specific. I only can assume he means the likes of ghouls and hunters.
-The game will be fully PvP, i.e. there may be Elysium areas, but nothing like the flagging system, as seen in PvE WoW servers.
"That is everything that I learned from that particular panel. Afterwords, I had some time with one of the developers, and managed to ring a few more details out of him:
He is supposedly working on something called 'story arcs'. He immediately realized he had probably already said too much, so you'll have to use your imagination to determine what that would mean in the game.
He also stated that in regards to the development cycles, some disciplines simply will not be included because they are way too complicate to implement well -- specifically, Temporis."
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.28 13:26:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Elayna Poppins
Interesting stuff. Perma death will be a welcome addition if they add that. Makes for more falvour and to keep your self going witohut putting in lots of stupid risk, also a good reason for not being a frontline fighter. Hopefully it will be an MMO innvolving lots of flavour and not focused on combat as much.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.09.28 16:59:00 -
[84]
Why Masquerade, CCP?
Why?
Have none of you in Iceland actually read Vampire: Gehenna?
It's dead. It's gone. It's done. It's over. Surprisingly appropriate metaphor aside, why the hell did you go and dig up its corpse?
It was never all that good anyway. Requiem is better and it's far less fruity.
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2010.09.29 04:40:00 -
[85]
Vampire was the most deterministic of the White Wolf games by far, your character was pretty much completely defined by those dots on the paper in front of you and you didn't really need to exercise any imagination to roleplay as your personality was essentially fixed by game rules in most cases.
So, basically, that'd make a fine MMO. I'm glad they didn't go with werewolf (non-mechanical and extremely individually variant negotiations with spirits are something a computer would be hard-pressed to reproduce) or, god help us, Mage (the players basically make up the rules as they go along).
What I'd actually play, though, is a Changeling MMO. It would basically be Eve with magical powers and a class of NPCs massively more powerful than the oldest players... everyone in the universe is out to get you, and even if they aren't you're convinced they are.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.29 05:33:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
Edited by: Obsidian Hawk on 25/09/2010 15:46:27
CCP To Unveil Wold of Darkness: The Grand Masquerade
And discuss!
EDIT WoD teaser up on youtube.
And it was awesome??
I want to play this so bad but I havent gotten my life back from eve yet..
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.29 07:24:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Why Masquerade, CCP?
Why?
Have none of you in Iceland actually read Vampire: Gehenna?
It's dead. It's gone. It's done. It's over. Surprisingly appropriate metaphor aside, why the hell did you go and dig up its corpse?
It was never all that good anyway. Requiem is better and it's far less fruity.
Imo, requiem sucked :)
But its just a matter of opinion I guess :P
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Colonel Evans
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Posted - 2010.09.29 09:36:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Colonel Evans on 29/09/2010 09:38:23
I seriously doubt that emo people will flock to this, it's far beyond that.
WoD was what vampires were before Twilight and various other sources of fail pranced along. And since CCP decided to use oWoD (Masquerade) instead of nWoD (Requiem), it will be even more so, with a Gothic/Punk setting as opposed to traditional vampireness.
I would have said inb4 people think that Twilight***s and emo***s will flock to this, but i'm late by 3 pages. If you're not going to play it, keep your opinion to yourself.
Also, Masquerade >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Requiem. Keep your nWoD **** over there with the rest of the compost.
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Thermoss Devlin
Minmatar
StarFleet Enterprises
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.29 11:54:00 -
[89]
Really interesting stuff indeed.
I'm looking forward to this game alot.
I hope that the territories will play about the same role as it does in EVE. That would just be so awesome.
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