Please read this post and don't ruin a part of the game I enjoy.
The Hulk has two issues
1.) The ore hold is to small. When ice harvesters cycle, there is not enough room in the hold one strip miner will shut off. This means that every cycle you will have to restart one and move your ice out. That alone would make the ship useless next to the new Makinaw. You need to at least double the size.
When I'm mining roids I get one cycle. That's insane, and yes I fly with a Orca so every cycle I need to move the ore out?
2.) The bonuses compared to the Makinaw brings into question why would I bother using this ship for an 20% difference in yield? I would trade the convenience of afk Mining with a Makinaw any day of the week.
The Ore hold needs to be at least 12K m3. Even with the mining bonuses retained, compared to the other exhumers the new Hulk is questionable at best.
Please don't ruin my hulk.
The Makinaw
Love the concept but you should extend the middle section of the ship to reflect the extremely large ore hold. Now I know the art guys love to do more then what is required and will want to redesign the whole ship but don't let them, because it will take them a year to get around to a full redesign. :-)
Skiff
I get the concept, but the logistics of low sec ninja mining are simply not very profitable. The transit times between the belt and station reduce the ISK per hour to the point that I can't see why I would even bother. Not to mention the risk in getting the ore back to high sec for sale. So unless you planning on anding a complimentary ore hauler with cloaking or other equivalent defensive attributes to the ship inventory your not providing a real use for this ship.
Well one out off three ain't bad. I'll finish with one final thought. Mining just became viable again, after several years of 2 isk veld pricing, don't screw it up. CCP has a very long track record of taking far to long to rebalance something after its been introduced. Drone region ring a bell?

I think they are trying to say "Make a choice."

Stagger your strips

Please read this post and don't ruin a part of the game I enjoy.
The Hulk has two issues
1.) The ore hold is to small. When ice harvesters cycle, there is not enough room in the hold one strip miner will shut off. This means that every cycle you will have to restart one and move your ice out. That alone would make the ship useless next to the new Makinaw. You need to at least double the size.
When I'm mining roids I get one cycle. That's insane, and yes I fly with a Orca so every cycle I need to move the ore out?
2.) The bonuses compared to the Makinaw brings into question why would I bother using this ship for an 20% difference in yield? I would trade the convenience of afk Mining with a Makinaw any day of the week.
The Ore hold needs to be at least 12K m3. Even with the mining bonuses retained, compared to the other exhumers the new Hulk is questionable at best.
Please don't ruin my hulk.
The Makinaw
Love the concept but you should extend the middle section of the ship to reflect the extremely large ore hold. Now I know the art guys love to do more then what is required and will want to redesign the whole ship but don't let them, because it will take them a year to get around to a full redesign. :-)
Skiff
I get the concept, but the logistics of low sec ninja mining are simply not very profitable. The transit times between the belt and station reduce the ISK per hour to the point that I can't see why I would even bother. Not to mention the risk in getting the ore back to high sec for sale. So unless you planning on anding a complimentary ore hauler with cloaking or other equivalent defensive attributes to the ship inventory your not providing a real use for this ship.
Well one out off three ain't bad. I'll finish with one final thought. Mining just became viable again, after several years of 2 isk veld pricing, don't screw it up. CCP has a very long track record of taking far to long to rebalance something after its been introduced. Drone region ring a bell?

Mining just became viable again, after several years of 2 isk veld pricing, don't screw it up.

Please read this post and don't ruin a part of the game I enjoy.
The Hulk has two issues
1.) The ore hold is to small. When ice harvesters cycle, there is not enough room in the hold one strip miner will shut off. This means that every cycle you will have to restart one and move your ice out. That alone would make the ship useless next to the new Makinaw. You need to at least double the size.

1.) The ore hold is to small. When ice harvesters cycle, there is not enough room in the hold one strip miner will shut off.

1.) The ore hold is to small.

2.) The bonuses compared to the Makinaw brings into question why would I bother using this ship for an 20% difference in yield?

Love the concept but you should extend the middle section of the ship to reflect the extremely large ore hold.

Skiff
I get the concept, but the logistics of low sec ninja mining are simply not very profitable.

It's hard to run them on different intervals and dump em into a jetcan or directly into an orca.....

Please don't ruin my hulk.

Covetor/hulk: ore bay is identical to its current cargo hold, little to average EHP, but best mining output. Basically made for group operations when players have industrials and protection to back them up.

Skiff
I get the concept, but the logistics of low sec ninja mining are simply not very profitable.

Does anyone else find it hysterical that you have miners bitching their ships don"t mine as much as they used to, while at the same time the gankers are whining about how they are hard to kill now? I mean holy **** are you kidding me? You cry that its too easy for you to die, so they give you the choice to fit a tank and you refuse, so they MAKE you use a tank and you CRY about it. On the other side you have the gankers whining that hulks are hard to kill now and then posting in other threads that ship prices are ********, yet they are killing the guys mining.

/popcorn