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Alt Tabbed	Posted - 2010.09.17 20:08:00 - [1] Ummmm Can someone do the Math for me on this a sec... http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=797 Does that really end up being 80k for tractor range?
NoNah	Posted - 2010.09.17 20:13:00 - [2] Yes. 20 * (1+ 5 * 0.6) = 80 Compare it to the rapier who gets 40km webs from being 10 thanks to a 60% bonus. Parrots, commence! Postcount: 519318
FT Diomedes Gallente The Fimbriani Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.09.17 20:32:00 - [3] That's gonna be pretty sweet. --- This doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk Russians. - Jacob Etienne
Footoo Rama Gallente Cast-a-Ways.	Posted - 2010.09.17 21:14:00 - [4] kinda awesome.. but My desty has over 1000m3 of cargo space and how is a BC not price competitive when this will cost about 500k isk... That being said great use of that awesome hull. ------- "Because the Dominix is the Chuck Norris of Eve!"
Jessica Fyers Gallente Azure Horizon	Posted - 2010.09.17 21:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Footoo Rama kinda awesome.. but My desty has over 1000m3 of cargo space and how is a BC not price competitive when this will cost about 500k isk... That being said great use of that awesome hull. Well, my salvagecane has a bit over 4000m¦ cargo space with almost max expansion, meaning that for all intents and purposes there is no mission i cant clear completely. However, my tractor beams reach only 20km, and speed with all that cargo expansion is real low, even with 100mn AB (not even the proverbial brick turns that slow). From what i see on the stats for that baby though, it not only can clear the entire field by hardly moving from warp-in point, it can also be expanded massively, for over 3500m¦. Thats where it is more competitive. No running around in a slow ship, quick collection of salvage and loot, no extra travel time till you can go get another mission. Also, from BPO building reqs, this is also going to be a BC sized vessel, and t1 so price wont be too insane after initial rush so point is indeed made: wont be efficient to use a BC if you can afford that one. I'm getting one as soon as they hit the market and stowing my old salvagecane back with the other ships i dont use!
iTechnologies	Posted - 2010.09.17 22:00:00 - [6] I thought CAW died
Redshift XIII Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.17 22:55:00 - [7] Edited by: Redshift XIII on 17/09/2010 22:55:33 Originally by: Jessica Fyers Well, my salvagecane has a bit over 4000m¦ cargo space with almost max expansion, meaning that for all intents and purposes there is no mission i cant clear completely. Why do you have 4k cargo space on your salvagecane? Why would you ever need 4k (mine has 2k and I never fill it up)? But more importantly, that means you don't have Salvage Tackle rigs on it...?
MWDrive	Posted - 2010.09.17 23:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Redshift XIII Edited by: Redshift XIII on 17/09/2010 22:55:33 Originally by: Jessica Fyers Well, my salvagecane has a bit over 4000m¦ cargo space with almost max expansion, meaning that for all intents and purposes there is no mission i cant clear completely. Why do you have 4k cargo space on your salvagecane? Why would you ever need 4k (mine has 2k and I never fill it up)? But more importantly, that means you don't have Salvage Tackle rigs on it...? I'd like to know how to fit a cane to 4k. I can't get over 3,3k (not that I would ever use that but just hypothetically). And btw, noctis can get over 5k cargo if my math is correct (again, not that I would fit cargo rigs instead of salvage...).
Jessica Fyers Gallente Azure Horizon	Posted - 2010.09.17 23:19:00 - [9] Originally by: MWDrive Originally by: Redshift XIII Edited by: Redshift XIII on 17/09/2010 22:55:33 Originally by: Jessica Fyers Well, my salvagecane has a bit over 4000m¦ cargo space with almost max expansion, meaning that for all intents and purposes there is no mission i cant clear completely. Why do you have 4k cargo space on your salvagecane? Why would you ever need 4k (mine has 2k and I never fill it up)? But more importantly, that means you don't have Salvage Tackle rigs on it...? I'd like to know how to fit a cane to 4k. I can't get over 3,3k (not that I would ever use that but just hypothetically). And btw, noctis can get over 5k cargo if my math is correct (again, not that I would fit cargo rigs instead of salvage...). To answer both questions in one go, i got that much cargo coz i like to scoop up everything, and in some missions (Gone Berserk and Angel Extra for instance) i get over 3000m¦ of loot. And i dont need salvage tackles coz i already salvage fast enough that limiting factor is how fast i can get into tractor range As to the how to get 4k, pretty straightforward, EFT it for confirmation, but i use these: 6x t2 expanders, 3x t1 cargo rigs, and a GSC (that is +900m¦), there you go. ---------------------------------------------- Some people say you should fight fire with fire... Nonsense of course; you should fight everything with fire!
Salpad Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2010.09.19 06:13:00 - [10] Do we know how large the Noctis is, in m3, packaged and unpackaged? -- Salpad C.E.O., Carebears with Attitude

Spacing Cowboy Caldari Rule of Five Lucky Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2010.09.19 06:54:00 - [11] side, its BC sized so guestimate it at 45k packed, +- 220k unpacked
Ikarus Gaul Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2010.09.19 09:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Spacing Cowboy side, its BC sized so guestimate it at 45k packed, +- 220k unpacked A BC is 15,000 m¦ packed... á How many humans will CONCORD allow Master Kuvakei and his True Slaves to abduct? How many is too many? Too many have already been lost! 20M citizens on countless planets!
Missus Business	Posted - 2010.09.19 10:45:00 - [13] Edited by: Missus Business on 19/09/2010 10:45:57 Originally by: Ikarus Gaul Originally by: Spacing Cowboy side, its BC sized so guestimate it at 45k packed, +- 220k unpacked A BC is 15,000 m¦ packed... àand 270,000m¦ unpacked. If you want the stats, go look at your Primae ù the size will be the same.
Baneken Gallente School of the Unseen	Posted - 2010.09.19 11:35:00 - [14] If that 3k somehow isn't enough cargo space, feel free to stuff in some containers for added space. Actually I have no idea if you can put stuff directly inside a container (in cargo) from a another container/wreck in space. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2010.09.19 11:40:00 - [15] You can, assuming the can is in a cargo hold. Not sure if it's in a corp hangar, say in an Orca, though. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
William Walker Amarr House Celtae	Posted - 2010.09.19 11:48:00 - [16] Will the ORE Industrial skill perhaps even be helpful for other ORE ships? ________________________________________________


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