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Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
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Posted - 2012.07.31 00:19:00 -
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The solution I see is to have CCP provide services that are not available from players. I like the idea of possible neural or facial remaps for a large (like a billion ISK) fee. The name change controversy which was already covered in another thread, but might be an option. I also like the idea of using ISK to get instant jump clone switch.
The increase on cost for founding a corporation is also a great idea since it is currently ridiculously cheap. Seriously 200m ISK still would feel like a decent deal to found a corporation.
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foxnod
BOAE INC
Red Alliance
47
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Posted - 2012.07.31 00:49:00 -
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Could also change mission time bonus rewards from isk to LP bonus.
CCP would have to adjust the tag reqs for a number of items though. They could also look at adding faction varients of items that don't currently have them (DMG CNTRLS, ECCM, Sig Amps, etc.)
ex.
currently...... mission payout 2,000,000 isk
time bonus 2,000,000 isk
LP 2,500 lp
to................ mission payout 2,000,000 isk
time bonus 1,000 lp
LP 2,500 lp |
A Soporific
Old Man Johnson's Bakery Delivery Service
9
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Posted - 2012.07.31 02:08:00 -
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I'll be honest, I've never considered the time bonus on missions being an LP bonus. Frankly, I think that's a great idea. It might even help increase the rate of spending in LP stores, which is another ISK sink. It's actually kind of obvious, now that I think about it. |
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2012.07.31 03:56:00 -
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I got 99 problems but the isk ain't one.
A good predator knows how to live in balance with his prey, lest he follow them into oblivion. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
157
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Posted - 2012.07.31 04:32:00 -
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but I like having a lot of isk just sitting in my wallet :( |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
546
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:24:00 -
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I apologize for my terse and rude response, but I believe you haven't done a thorough job researching and your seemingly weak understanding of economics do not help make your points more valid.
Inflation is not always necessarily a "bad thing." CCP did a wonder by making EVE's economy have some resemblance to our real-world economy. As CCP noted before, if there is a sign of "hyper-inflation," CCP will simply introduce mechanism to tax the capsuleers.
Also, if you are a sound investor, you should know that if you expect the inflation rate to increase in the foreseeable future, you can easily invest in other commodities or materials that are not adversely affected by the devaluation of the currency.
I think EVE is a harsh world. Just like how people who suck at PvP (me) gets punished by the loss of ships, EVE tests players in every other aspects, including finances. If you can not hedge/insure your position due to your lack of understanding in economics, you will be worse off than those with more knowledge about the market.
If you are so afraid of inflation adversely affecting your net worth, I suggest that you simply invest in something that upholds values in the future.
Only a fool keeps his or her entire investment in ISK. You can think of them as someone in real-life who keeps their cash under the mattress.
Oh and this post should go to "Features and Ideas" Section of the forum. |
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
546
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:32:00 -
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Oh and this "issue" has been debated over hundreds of pages on the "Market Discussion" Forum section. You should go there since there are those who spend countless hours churning numbers and data with vastly more grasp of economic knowledge than the average Joe on the "General Discussion" section of the Forum. |
Ron Maudieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:35:00 -
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Oh there is a solution, but there would be a lot of "canceled subs" because of it.
hint: asset wipe
All of the whining on these forums produce enough tears daily to fill an Olympic-size pool.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex
Cosmic Consortium
1671
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Posted - 2012.07.31 05:45:00 -
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Ron Maudieu wrote:Oh there is a solution, GǪ asset wipe
That is not a solution, that will actually make the problem worse. Asset wipe means those people who are really clever with the economy will gain a huge lead over the less cluedul. Those people who understand nullsec mechanics better will get a huge lead over those who don't.
An asset wipe does not reset the game to having everyone at the same level. The better players will be able to leverage their expertise to advance much faster when everyone else in the game doesn't have their favored production capital in place.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Ron Maudieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:19:00 -
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It would address the issue of inflation though :)
All of the whining on these forums produce enough tears daily to fill an Olympic-size pool.
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1522
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:20:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Oh and this "issue" has been debated over hundreds of pages on the "Market Discussion" Forum section. You should go there since there are those who spend countless hours churning numbers and data with vastly more grasp of economic knowledge than the average Joe on the "General Discussion" section of the Forum.
it only took 3 giant heists before they realized that spacebanks are a scam
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
245
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Posted - 2012.07.31 06:44:00 -
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I remember the days when I was rich, now my isks are rotting under my mattress.
New inventory: Please bring back the old system this is a usability nightmare. |
highonpop
Void.Tech
Fatal Ascension
165
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Posted - 2012.07.31 13:48:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:
Edit: nevermind, suggestion. NPC sold snowballs. For our snowball launchers.
CCP, DO THIS NAO!
hey i remember that. I has some snowballs once and never knew wtf to do with them...i'm going to check my assets list later when I get in game and check to see If I still have them!!! 
All I heard was Blah Blah Blah I'm a dirty *****... |
A Soporific
Old Man Johnson's Bakery Delivery Service
13
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Posted - 2012.07.31 14:59:00 -
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I can't help but feel that I failed to make myself understood. I'm not panicking over inflation, but I've been playing off and on a very long time. The cost of living has changed in the most simplistic of terms. It's a long simmering minor issue, and one that I would like to see if not resolved then managed better with some new, interesting or useful mechanics.
I am aware that this topic has been discussed prior. But where's the harm in brainstorming?
To be perfectly honest, I haven't done full research. I'm not ready to write out proposals, nor do I have a complete understanding of all things eve and economical. This is as much an information gathering tool as it is anything else. Is there anything wrong with doing due diligience and brainstorming prior proposing something to experts? |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
265
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Posted - 2012.07.31 18:11:00 -
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highonpop wrote:Velicitia wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:
Edit: nevermind, suggestion. NPC sold snowballs. For our snowball launchers.
CCP, DO THIS NAO! hey i remember that. I has some snowballs once and never knew wtf to do with them...i'm going to check my assets list later when I get in game and check to see If I still have them!!!
I think they've all melted
Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr soist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel-á |
Velicitia
Open Designs
1034
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Posted - 2012.07.31 18:17:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:highonpop wrote:Velicitia wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:
Edit: nevermind, suggestion. NPC sold snowballs. For our snowball launchers.
CCP, DO THIS NAO! hey i remember that. I has some snowballs once and never knew wtf to do with them...i'm going to check my assets list later when I get in game and check to see If I still have them!!! I think they've all melted
They have. They'd only be around for about a month (December - January?) before becoming useless.
We need snowballs and snowball launchers back. |
Fatbottom Girl
State War Academy
Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:03:00 -
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I GOT 99 PROBLEMS BUT ISK AINT ONE  |
Velarra
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
94
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:35:00 -
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WTB functional snowballs, In ISK or LP.
Furthermore would like to see complete elimination of the NEX store and the AUR currency as a whole, replaced by BPO's and BPCs with production conducted via PI resources. |
Ms Kat
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:40:00 -
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Lets be honest here...
All your suggestions are to remove ISK from the game. Which ok I do agree there is too much of it about.
The real problem is most people fund thier accounts with ISK buying plex.... 9 out of 10 people would either quit or atleast cut down on thier numbers of alts the day they had to pay with RL cash.
I fear removing ISK from the game would have a knock on effect and be the final straw which broke the cammels back. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2077
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:42:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:What about fitting fees?
Think of the people (or equipment) that has to fit your ships. It could cost something.
Note that it should be a minimal amount to not offset the number of refits but seeing as how often we do change fittings it could easily prove to be a decent ISK sink perhaps.
I live out of an orca. Do I just pay my alt, or what?
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2077
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:48:00 -
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Velarra wrote:WTB functional snowballs
Hmmm...paintballs. Zero-damage, GCC-free paintballs sold in a variety of colors. Available at your nearest NPC outlet. Starting off they would just make pretty splatters in space, but if CCP ever decided it was worth the eye candy, they could actually leave paint marks on the ships.
Session changes would clean the paint.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2077
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Posted - 2012.07.31 19:50:00 -
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Ms Kat wrote:Lets be honest here...
All your suggestions are to remove ISK from the game. Which ok I do agree there is too much of it about.
The real problem is most people fund thier accounts with ISK buying plex.... 9 out of 10 people would either quit or atleast cut down on thier numbers of alts the day they had to pay with RL cash.
I fear removing ISK from the game would have a knock on effect and be the final straw which broke the cammels back.
PLEX would still be there and if you can afford it today, you'd be able to afford it with more isk sinks in the game. The idea is to prevent inflation, which makes plex MORE expensive.
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A Soporific
Old Man Johnson's Bakery Delivery Service
17
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Posted - 2012.07.31 20:43:00 -
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Ms Kat wrote:Lets be honest here...
All your suggestions are to remove ISK from the game. Which ok I do agree there is too much of it about.
The real problem is most people fund thier accounts with ISK buying plex.... 9 out of 10 people would either quit or atleast cut down on thier numbers of alts the day they had to pay with RL cash.
I fear removing ISK from the game would have a knock on effect and be the final straw which broke the cammels back.
The idea is to keep inflationary pressures natural, not to increase or decrease prices. At this point, over very long periods of time, the cost of everything is changing because the value of ISK itself is changing. It's changing because there is simply more of it. The more there is, the less each one is valued by the player and there is a form of price creep just by this alone.
The addition of more sinks shouldn't be a short-term noticable thing. If that is happening all of a sudden then it means that we failed, either in concept or in balance. The idea is nothing more than keeping the increase of isk proportional to an increase in the player base or an increase in overall activity rather than an increase because there aren't enough ways that money is flowing out of the capsuleer economy.
With a slight constriction in the amount of overall cash on hand then prices should shift more or less the same across the board at the same time. After all, a PLEX is just another item on the market, at this point. A more valuable ISK should make underbidding rivals more attractive across the board, and market PVP should ensure that the relative value of any given item should remain more or less constant. That is, unless, someone has the market power to force the price to say the same and then just pocket the effective profit. That could happen anyways, however, and really isn't an effective arguement in this case.
That being said, there are a lot of "should" in this post, and that's mostly because you're dealing with people more than abstracts and people are dicks. |
Hudzen Ten
Diva-Droid International
9
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Posted - 2012.07.31 22:40:00 -
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How about charging everyone rent and tax.
Eve is all about hoarding and this ethos needs an intervention involving clearing the junk out of the house and lifting the bloated inhabiants out of the window with a crane.
Rent would be an massive isk sink that doesnt have to be too expensive to make a big impact. Make it so you get charged by m3 for everything you have stored in a station, same with rent for corp hangers. Docking fees even perhaps? This would have to be combined with revamping pos's to make them more habitable than sitting in a bubble. It would force the scared bears and 0.0 power blocks to put their assets out in space and become actually destructable as so many complain they should be.
Tax could be on all isk and increase in a similar manner to rl. You could even make faction warfare allow a 'tax exempt' charitable donation that could affect the price of facion equipment via lp store that cant be sold on the market. Tax would also help prevent rent causing people to just keep all their assets as liquid isk, only hold the ship or two they're currently using.
If you balance the proportions of both so it affects people with huge amount of isk and assets more then it'd be all good.
And if loads hoarders rage quit over it all then that'd be even better for inflation.
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