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Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.09.19 18:50:00 - [1] On behalf of no one, including myself, Thanks for the timely update and closure.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.09.19 19:00:00 - [2] Originally by: Prokonsul Piotrus If I don't want any shares, can I withdraw my isk? Fail at reading much? ISK will be transfered through the share system. If you don't want any shares, you won't get any ISK.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.09.20 00:17:00 - [3] Originally by: EBANK SencneS Together we could have over 120 production slots and 100 science slots in use pretty consistently. I'm not sure if I should congratulate your determination or cry.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.09.20 01:06:00 - [4] Originally by: SencneS That's a tad misleading, and I see that now, that's "Could" not "always" and since Athre's departure capacity was depleted. Thanks for clarifying that. I can see that when Athre left, it would have hurt your available jobs. I have maintained 90 science and 90 production jobs practically non-stop for well over a year. Which is part of the reason I wanted to cry. It seems you guys did put forth an effort, but perhaps more could have been done. Then again I am winding down my invention business due to just not enough time with work right now, so I know how much you guys probably hated knowing that you have to log in to start jobs It's not much fun when your game time is more like a 2nd job
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:31:00 - [5] Originally by: SencneS We always had this sense of doing the right thing, and no matter what we did or how it was meet with negativity, I'm sorry if people don't like hearing that. I don't like saying it, but the fact is it happened, it's in the past, still looking forward to the end of an era. It is a good thing this is finally coming to a close. However think about everything you (EBank) have went through in the past year. Was it really worth it?? I said it once and I'll quote it again Quote: Most of the problems were caused by people that are not even involved with EBank anymore, so your hands are clean. http://eve-search.com/thread/1161131/page/37#1103 You guys did bust your ass and put up with a lot of ****. Although looking back, Ray didn't always make it easy for you guys either. Were you guys called liars, scammers, and worse? Yes. Did people who were told "next update on this day" have a right to call EBank liars when 2 months after that date, there was still no update? YES. Had the PR been better perhaps it would have been more manageable. Of course you would still have had some of it going on, but at least to the players they would have been able to see progress going on instead of being left in the dark. Glad you guys can finally move on, and I hope your next 5 years in EVE are much more relaxing and enjoyable!
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.11.27 14:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 We are currently waiting on CCP to unlock BPOs so we can sell them, we are experiencing a bug that shows the bpos as locked down in the hangar but will not allow us to propose unlock votes because the system says they are not currently locked. Ah, this bug which I asked about almost a month ago. Highly annoying, but there is a workaround for it in that thread that halfway works. I'll also send it though evemail. It's worth a shot instead of waiting on a petition.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.12.03 17:40:00 - [7] Originally by: Dasola and now they cant seem to be able even liquedate it in reasonable timeframe they themselfs has set Maybe you should actually read instead of posting bull****. How the hell can you sell anything when they are locked down and stuck due to a bug? The amount of stupid in this thread is amazing.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.12.03 23:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Razz XXX wow, this has sunk low. Just wondering how old you guys are? 16? Both Ray and AC are much more polite than they were a few months ago.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.12.19 22:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Kei Darker I'll sum it up for you: Your account balance has always been 0.00 isk. FYP
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.12.29 20:29:00 - [10] Edited by: Breaker77 on 29/12/2010 20:30:06 Originally by: Ray McCormack It's amazing people actually believe this. Although untried and therefore not possible to say it's impossible, it does border on the unlikely realms of the improbable to state that any claim against game assets would be legally binding in the real world. Considering you have to agree to an EULA which states that all ingame items belong to CCP, I suppose (theoretically) CCP could sue you for the ISK back (Even though they could just take it). Anyone else trying to do it would, or should, get laughed out of court for trying to get back items that do not belong to them in the first place.

Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.12.29 20:38:00 - [11] Originally by: Liberty Eternal The fact that it's a game shouldn't be an excuse - when real money changes hands, you are entitled to the service you paid for, at face value. Being stolen from then told it's a great gameplay experience doesn't really cut any ice. The only thing paying CCP allows is to connect to their server. Again I will mention that CCP owns all ingame items. How can it be fraud if you don't own ISK? Thats like a burglar suing for the return of the items he stole that were returned to the original owner when he was caught.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.12.29 20:53:00 - [12] Originally by: Liberty Eternal They also sell PLEX, not just subscriptions. What is a PLEX used for? 30 days of subscription to connect to the server. Nothing more, nothing less. If a PLEX was unable to be traded, it would still be worth what it is today. 30 days of subscription time. Nothing more, nothing less.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.12.30 02:51:00 - [13] Originally by: Liberty Eternal customers who purchase PLEX with real cash do so with the expectation that they can use it to purchase in-game currency. Proof? Quote: A Pilot License Extension (PLEX) is an item that adds 30 days of game time to your EVE Online account. It can be converted from any game time code and, like any other item, it can be traded on the EVE market. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/30_days_Concord_Pilot_License_Extension Show me where in that article is specifically states that you MUST trade a PLEX for ISK? Anywhere? Anywhere? NO. You may trade it, but it is used to add 30 days of time to your account. Nothing more, nothing less.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.02.16 01:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Black Omne Edited by: Black Omne on 16/02/2011 00:49:23 Despite all the naysayers and scam proponents, I would like to thank Ray and Amarr Citizen for continuing their work on liquidating the bank, they could have walked away long ago, but I applaud their efforts, even if it has taken a long time, they are not getting anything out of it, and are investing their time and effort, which I appreciate. Just my opinion. True, however they had two choices when liquidating. A. Issue shares like they are doing now then paying out everyone. Would have taken a few days to weeks to figure out the number of shares needed and how many to issue. B. Ask for API keys, decide not to pay back anyone who was involved in a scam or default on the bank. Issue shares like they are doing now then paying out everyone. Which is taking years to figure out the number of shares needed and how many to issue plus all the background checks going on. Personally I prefer to work smarter, not harder. Apparently they prefer complicating things or are really stupid.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.02.16 01:41:00 - [15] Originally by: Andrew Wulfe I'm glad they chose B frankly. Not doing so would have been like issuing shares to Ricdic. I'm for cutting out scammer and defaulters. Why should they get any more of my isk than they already have? A very good point. But in the year or so it's been, most people could have recovered the difference plus made even more ISK.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.02.28 22:25:00 - [16] Originally by: EBANK Amarr155 Just an update for anyone that still cares. Share distribution has started so shares should start to make their way into wallets today. There are over 1300 characters that have to have shares sent to them so expect this to take a bit of time. I'm in shock!! You're not going to evemail them to confirm they are still playing to get their ISK back? What kind of scammer are you?
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 21:13:00 - [17] Posted September 19, 2010 Originally by: Ray McCormack Dividends will start sooner than December. Can I ask what year?
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.05.13 01:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 EBANK does not own any titan related items anymore and has not for quite sometime. Audit?
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.05.24 00:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Cerrydwin Thanks for sticking through what must have been a brutal grind. It doesn't take 2 years to sell assets and distribute ISK to depositors. Unless of course you want depositors to jump through hoops that include giving away full API keys, DNA samples, and the names of each pet you have Seriously, create shares to distribute to depositors, sell assets, issue dividends. EBANK made it a hundred times more difficult than it needed to be in the guise of "we don't want to pay back people who scammed us".

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