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Yushi Hayamoto
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Posted - 2010.09.19 18:47:00 -
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how about it? one or two new new eden's? I personally wouldn't mind colonizing it all over again. And it would certainly make lag more bearable.
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A piwate
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Posted - 2010.09.19 18:51:00 -
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And take away one of the main selling point of the game ? Not gonna happen.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.19 18:51:00 -
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àwould kind of ruin the whole point of EVE.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Khanaris Asgarth
Eternium Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.19 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Khanaris Asgarth on 19/09/2010 18:54:35
 Originally by: A piwate
And take away one of the main selling point of the game ? Not gonna happen.
This to be honest. Plus its only a stop gap. In a few years you'd have the same problem.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.19 18:55:00 -
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People keep killing off the Lvl 80 Sansha King, and I never get any 1337 gear!
Can we instance PVE when we get the new Severs!
Also I wanna fly my Pod back to my wreck, so I don't lose my stuff!
If they camp it I will petition them!
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Axemaster
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Yushi Hayamoto
how about it? one or two new new eden's? I personally wouldn't mind colonizing it all over again. And it would certainly make lag more bearable.
NOOOOOO!!!! A thousand times NOOOOOO!!!!
WOW is that way 
Honestly this is the most fail thing I have read on the forum this week... no this month. Do you hate eve or something?
0/10
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Shwedagon Paya
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
àwould kind of ruin the whole point of EVE.
That's one side of the argument, and perfectly valid... but on the other side of the coin, a lot of new players' biggest concerns about EVE revolve around their inability to catch up to older players or get in on the ground floor.
Say what you will, but EVE is not immune to becoming excessively topheavy as the years pass ù actually it's worse off than most, because in EVE people can continue to gain wealth, power and influence far past the artificial limits imposed by almost all other MMOs.
That being said, no. There should be only one Tranquility cluster. Like skill points, everyone-on-one-server is a fundamental part of EVE now, and changing that could (and likely would) prove disastrous.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:04:00 -
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I'd rather see a space expansion. :)
-Liang
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illford baker
ZZ's tax free corp
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:06:00 -
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this has been proposed multiple time, it has been booed off the forums ever time. 1 server is why i like this game.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: illford baker
this has been proposed multiple time, it has been booed off the forums ever time. 1 server is why i like this game.
What server do you play on?
I play EVE ***** HTFU!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
but on the other side of the coin, a lot of new players' biggest concerns about EVE revolve around their inability to catch up to older players or get in on the ground floor.
Fortunately, the other side of the coin is entirely illusory and based on flawed preconceptions and an incomplete understanding of how the game works.
So it's pretty much safe to ignore.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Intigo
Amarr
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
People keep killing off the Lvl 80 Sansha King, and I never get any 1337 gear!
Can we instance PVE when we get the new Severs!
Also I wanna fly my Pod back to my wreck, so I don't lose my stuff!
If they camp it I will petition them!
Stop posting.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Stop posting.
Sure!
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Intigo
Stop posting.
Sure!
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Shwedagon Paya
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
but on the other side of the coin, a lot of new players' biggest concerns about EVE revolve around their inability to catch up to older players or get in on the ground floor.
Fortunately, the other side of the coin is entirely illusory and based on flawed preconceptions and an incomplete understanding of how the game works.
So it's pretty much safe to ignore.
Did you copy and paste that from a list of bog-standard apologist responses, or what? Brilliant. 
Anyway, the point isn't fact, dear. Illusions can and do influence people's behavior, despite being completely immaterial in the grand scheme of things.
Not going to stick around and argue about this, though; consequences would never be the same. I'm popping the top on this bird.
/grabs the yellow-and-black-striped handle and gives a good, hard yank
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Zeba ForumWhoor
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:23:00 -
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The only additional servers we need are moar! seeded out in low sec and nullsec. C'mon, entire regions run on a single cpu so when a pos bash fleet forms up it lags everyone out even if they are just a few pilots running some sites or trying to get in some smaller form pew pew 20 jumps away. 
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Shwedagon Paya
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:24:00 -
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That's actually true, all new servers should be added to the existing cluster to reduce load or some such technical nonsense.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Intigo
Stop posting.
Sure!
Can't we all just get along.
Fakedit: Forget I said that.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar
Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax
Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
Yushi Hayamoto
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:27:00 -
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having one server for everyone but not being able to handle more than 100 people in the same system effectively, kinda defeats that same purpose.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
Anyway, the point isn't fact, dear. Illusions can and do influence people's behavior, despite being completely immaterial in the grand scheme of things.
Maybe so, but it wasting money on building a non-solution to a problem that doesn't actually even exist isà
àwell, let's just call it "foolish".
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
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Dhaul
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:29:00 -
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Multiple identical servers would be pretty terrible.
The only way I can ever see it working is to have another shard with completely different geography (so to speak). They could still make it feel like a single shard experience if they made some in-game way to do character transfers. Like say some w-space systems had a uncommon or rare type of WH spawn that would take you to the other server. Once entered it would bill you for 500 mil or some other amount that would make cross-server roaming gangs or whatever completely impractical, and your character would be unusable until the next DT when the transfer is made.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Shwedagon Paya
Anyway, the point isn't fact, dear. Illusions can and do influence people's behavior, despite being completely immaterial in the grand scheme of things.
Maybe so, but it wasting money on building a non-solution to a problem that doesn't actually even exist isà
àwell, let's just call it "foolish".
Do you have an alt called 'Cow Tippia'?
Originally by: Allestin Villimar
Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax
Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
illford baker
ZZ's tax free corp
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: illford baker on 19/09/2010 19:30:43
Originally by: Yushi Hayamoto
having one server for everyone but not being able to handle more than 100 people in the same system effectively, kinda defeats that same purpose.
they are fixing that, look at the new jita hardware (read the sticky). once they implement more of that, fleet battles should go a lot smoother.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's
Do you have an alt called 'Cow Tippia'?
No, but now that you mention it, maybe I should get it before someone else doesà 
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dhaul
Multiple identical servers would be pretty terrible.
The only way I can ever see it working is to have another shard with completely different geography (so to speak). They could still make it feel like a single shard experience if they made some in-game way to do character transfers. Like say some w-space systems had a uncommon or rare type of WH spawn that would take you to the other server. Once entered it would bill you for 500 mil or some other amount that would make cross-server roaming gangs or whatever completely impractical, and your character would be unusable until the next DT when the transfer is made.
But at that point, why not just add more systems to the New Eden we already have?
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Mag's
Do you have an alt called 'Cow Tippia'?
No, but now that you mention it, maybe I should get it before someone else doesà
For some reason every time I see your name, I think of cow tipping. 
Originally by: Allestin Villimar
Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax
Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
k'nah Manaan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:35:00 -
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The single shard is my favorite part of eve. I can't go back to sharded games as the community seems so shallow.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mag's
For some reason every time I see your name, I think of cow tipping.
I just think she be Trippa!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: Mag's
For some reason every time I see your name, I think of cow tipping.
I just think she be Trippa!
It's just because my "normal" char name was taken, but I can't find a character with the same name so it must be someone's accountà
àthieving bastages! 
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Shwedagon Paya
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Posted - 2010.09.19 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Maybe so, but it wasting money on building a non-solution to a problem that doesn't actually even exist isà
àwell, let's just call it "foolish".
Okay, I'm seriously done after this, because I know this line of discussion is a one-way street to Nowheresville. I just want to make my position totally clear.
"I can't catch up" may be an illusion, but the only way to dispel that illusion is for the doubting Thomas to play EVE long enough to discover this fact for himself. Many of these people might make fine additions to the game, if only they could get past that hump. Simply telling them isn't much of a solution, as most MMO players are inclined to accentuate the positive (or outright lie) about their ageing game, and people know this.
Thus, there IS a real problem ù reduced new player influx.
I said that a new server cluster might solve or alleviate that problem by removing the illusion, imaginary though it may be. I then went on to mention that the downsides would be far worse and that this should never happen. Don't know how I can be any more reasonable than that, this is a lulz thread anyway so might as well spew out randumb thoughts.
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