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Eto Tekai	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:25:00 - [1] Edited by: Eto Tekai on 20/09/2010 21:27:14 Quote: insert long post about how great random corp is, Recruiting PVP Pilots! Pirates, Griefers ect. need NOT apply! This seems to be such a common thing for people to add to their recruitment posts. This honestly to me, makes no sense. I can understand you not wanting corp theives, but there are a lot of honest players who will not take your stuff , but want to play this game to suside gank, kill people in lowsec, Ninja loot missions in hopes of retalition, and a slew of other activities that these corps do not want. They need to realize that most PVP pilots, protect and defend in times of war, enjoy doing these things? Who in their right mind would want to join a corp like this if they are into PVP. Just by reading these types posts makes me want to war-dec them I know for a fact that you will be easy kills. "Pirate" style activities are huge part of this game and they need to just deal with it and allow your corp mates to have fun in the game any way they feel like it.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:30:00 - [2] I am guessing that they are afraid of War Decs! They want to PVP when they want to, but not lose there High Sec Farming! My Corp has rules against Greifing, Flipping, Ninjaing and our members have made every effort not to follow them! -- Alara's Law! As an online discussion on EVE ships grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Dominix approaches 1
Sural Alpha	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:30:00 - [3] Pretty sure that corps can decide for themselves what type of player they want to accept. Likewise you are delusional if you believe that just because you enjoy playing the game one way "most PVP pilots" play the game as you do. Tbh, sounds almost like a qq post to me. Big words about the wardec though, of course you won't follow through since in the end it's all about being a forum warrior above all else.
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:31:00 - [4] filed under "OH NO, SOME PEOPLE PLAY THE GAME DIFFERENTLY THAN I DO"
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:34:00 - [5] I've mostly seen that in 0.0 and high sec war dec corps. 0.0 peeps want you out in 0.0 defending their space, and high sec peeps realize that you prolly can't get into high sec. I stopped caring a long time ago, because any corp that says "no piracy" will almost certainly end up booting me out. That or they'll get booted out of their alliance... depending. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Sural Alpha Pretty sure that corps can decide for themselves what type of player they want to accept. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Eto LabOne	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:39:00 - [7] Edited by: Eto LabOne on 20/09/2010 21:39:23 Edit: ops, i posted on an alt. Exactly! I spent 3 months in 0.0, and I enjoyed it. But it got old, and it wore off becuase its the same thing every week. Camp EC gate, or join 300 man fleet fights. There were rarely smaller roams into enemy 0.0, and when there were they were too short. So then I tried joining highsec wardec corps. All they do is camp jita 4/4 and unless I wanted to join Ophanage the average size of one of those corps is 12 people. I tried for 2 weeks to find a group of people that did roams, but everyone said "Sure we do roams" Yet never did. So finally I gave up, and started to look for a normal corp in search of pvp pilots, so atleast I would have people to chat with but 90% of them get upset when I admit that I enjoy suside ganking and ninja looting. There just doesnt seem to be anywhere for someone like me to go. I understand 0.0 but after so many months, it was time to try something new.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:40:00 - [8] Enough PVP'ers arent in the least interested in those things. I assume you have some statistics to back up your claim that most pvp pilots enjoy ninja looting and suicide ganking. If you want to do that, then join a corporation that is into that, pretty much the idea behind corporations, that they arent all the same. Also i assume that you think that a low sec pirate corporation should accept someone who only mines in high sec? Since mining is a huge part of this game and they need to just deal with it and allow their corp mates to have fun in the game any way they feel like it?
Spurty Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:41:00 - [9] Does the op realize his position is daft as any political correctness happens to be! CEO is god and you can't argue with science! Be gone with you elf warrior, for there are places for you, its just not there Yelp!
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Eto LabOne There just doesnt seem to be anywhere for someone like me to go. I understand 0.0 but after so many months, it was time to try something new. Have you tried talking to pirate corps? -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Eto Tekai	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:44:00 - [11] Fine, I cannot claim that most pvpers enjoy pirate style activities, but the ones who do not usually live in 0.0, and im sorry but been there done that. Lowsec pirate corps are rarely over 12 members, same goes for highsec grief corps. Those that are, usually don't have much leadership and are often only seen killing people outside trade hubs. And whyle I agree to the earlier comments that corps should be able to invite anyone they want, I just don't understand why you wouldnt want a talented player who enjoys suside ganking hulks and haulers when they have to much sec status built up. or making players angry by harassing them in highsec. You could say, go to lowsec and do those actitives, but then i would need a corp with like minded people. ive already tried that and ive yet to find one with more then a dozen people. and trust me, I've looked.
Gnukk	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:45:00 - [12] Here's a novel idea - make your OWN corporation and have it be ALL-inclusive instead of whining on the forums that no one wants you on their team.
Eto Tekai	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:46:00 - [13] I tried that, and was owned by the privateers within 5 hours of my pos going up. Can't really create a corp without putting your pos up first. I dont want to spend 8 months building a corp when there are 3289048320948302 corps out there and we are 7 years into a game.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:51:00 - [14] Originally by: Eto Tekai Can't really create a corp without putting your pos up first. Non sequitur. In fact, I'd rather like to know how you put up a POS without creating a corp first. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Eto Tekai	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:53:00 - [15] Because you have to put the pos up with high standings.. I've found people dont like the "Hey i have to kick all of you for a week so the corp standings go up so I can put the pos up" So lets say I invite 30 people and start the corp, It really seems in bad taste to have them all leave for a week whyle I put up the pos. Best to have the pos put down and then begin recruiting no?
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:53:00 - [16] Why would you possibly need a POS? And when busy, you can also roam in low sec without buddies.
Eto LabOne	Posted - 2010.09.20 21:56:00 - [17] Edited by: Eto LabOne on 20/09/2010 21:56:20 Edit: darn it, posted on alt again. Seems kind of lame to have a corporation and not have a base of operations with lab capability and in-space defensive safespot during wardecs. Shouldn't every real corp have a flag?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:01:00 - [18] it is possible to be a pvp pilot and not a pirate/Griefer. if you fly around 0.0 in defense of the homeland, or on assault of the sworn enemy, or I guess even if you go antipie'ng. only attack people that "deserve" it. pretty sure most corps will turn a blind eye to the occasional suicide gank, or lowsec kill. I know Idle Guns doesn't really give a flying *** what you do. *used in the narrow sense of shoots first and kills people in empire taking sec loss.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:04:00 - [19] Originally by: Eto LabOne Shouldn't every real corp have a flag? Uh. Parsec is a real corp.. our flag is the Jolly Roger. Just sayin'. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Barakkus Ishukone Institute of Technology	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:08:00 - [20] Originally by: Eto LabOne Edited by: Eto LabOne on 20/09/2010 21:39:23 Edit: ops, i posted on an alt. Exactly! I spent 3 months in 0.0, and I enjoyed it. But it got old, and it wore off becuase its the same thing every week. Camp EC gate, or join 300 man fleet fights. There were rarely smaller roams into enemy 0.0, and when there were they were too short. So then I tried joining highsec wardec corps. All they do is camp jita 4/4 and unless I wanted to join Ophanage the average size of one of those corps is 12 people. I tried for 2 weeks to find a group of people that did roams, but everyone said "Sure we do roams" Yet never did. So finally I gave up, and started to look for a normal corp in search of pvp pilots, so atleast I would have people to chat with but 90% of them get upset when I admit that I enjoy suside ganking and ninja looting. There just doesnt seem to be anywhere for someone like me to go. I understand 0.0 but after so many months, it was time to try something new. 3 words Red vs. Blue Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Eto LabOne Shouldn't every real corp have a flag? Uh. Parsec is a real corp.. our flag is the Jolly Roger. Just sayin'. -Liang Ours is a chemical warning sign, but don't let that scare you! Agent Orange is perfectly safe, we found 1960's scientific documents to prove it! Have a sniff! -- Alara's Law! As an online discussion on EVE ships grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Dominix approaches 1
Barakkus Ishukone Institute of Technology	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:13:00 - [22] Originally by: Eto Tekai Because you have to put the pos up with high standings.. I've found people dont like the "Hey i have to kick all of you for a week so the corp standings go up so I can put the pos up" So lets say I invite 30 people and start the corp, It really seems in bad taste to have them all leave for a week whyle I put up the pos. Best to have the pos put down and then begin recruiting no? Or you could just buy a corp from me. Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Eto Tekai	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:14:00 - [23] I assume by your attempted de-railment that you guys infact have successful roaming pvp corporations of more then 12 people and do not have a pos? If so awesome, what exactly do you do, and your members do not find it bad that you don't own a pos? otherwise I'm really having a good disussion here and would rather not have trolls.
Eto Tekai	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:16:00 - [24] barakkus I wouldn't need your services, I already have more then sufficent standings.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:20:00 - [25] Originally by: Alara IonStorm Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Eto LabOne Shouldn't every real corp have a flag? Uh. Parsec is a real corp.. our flag is the Jolly Roger. Just sayin'. -Liang Ours is a chemical warning sign, but don't let that scare you! Agent Orange is perfectly safe, we found 1960's scientific documents to prove it! Have a sniff! Does this rag smell like chloroform to you? Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
ElJo123 Sons Of 0din The Strangers.	Posted - 2010.09.20 22:40:00 - [26] Originally by: Eto Tekai If so awesome, what exactly do you do, and your members do not find it bad that you don't own a pos? I cry myself to sleep every night. If only we had a POS (yo mr ceo, when we're getting our pos?)
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2010.09.20 23:31:00 - [27] Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 20/09/2010 23:36:53 Originally by: Eto Tekai This seems to be such a common thing for people to add to their recruitment posts. This honestly to me, makes no sense. I can understand you not wanting corp theives, but there are a lot of honest players who will not take your stuff , but want to play this game to suside gank, kill people in lowsec, Ninja loot missions in hopes of retalition, and a slew of other activities that these corps do not want. They need to realize that most PVP pilots, protect and defend in times of war, enjoy doing these things? Ill start off with this..I wouldnt want em either. There is a big difference between what ccp calls a griefer..and what really is a griefer.All the things like ganking..ninja salvaging and what not are a form of griefing.They all have one thing in common..messing with people who dont want to be messed with.It shows a type of character in that person..that many want nothing to do with.People with a need for tears.Believe it or notthere are people who just want to enjoy the game.Not saying they dont want to pvp..but they like a competition and not lameness.Ganking a hulk..as funny as it may be earns you no cool points at all.Unloading 5 ravens on a single ship..earns you no cool points either.(Note that some do this for isk..and thats ok)but it takes no skill at all.Scanning takes a bit of effort to do..sure,but its also done mostly for the "tears"and to ruin peoples missions.Nothing wrong with any of this cuz it puts a little danger in eve..but dont cry when said carebears leave the nest and start pvping,and want nothing to do with theses types. Take the bad guy path and you got to be ready to be rejected by alot of people.Im not knocking all these people..allot of em are cool guys.But doing these things doesnt earn you any trust other than with your own kind.Even they will sleep with one eye open lol. Edit:youll end up with some trash like this in your corp Linkage
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2010.09.20 23:31:00 - [28] Lol@OP.. Let me get this straight here for a sec. 1) You describe yourself as 'hardcore'-pvp type of player: Originally by: Eto Tekai snip (rant about pvp-high-sec-corps) Just by reading these types posts makes me want to war-dec them I know for a fact that you will be easy kills. "Pirate" style activities are huge part of this game and they need to just deal with it and allow your corp mates to have fun in the game any way they feel like it. 2) Then there is the kind of activity which usually doesn't involve/occupies more than 5-6 people at once and for which you won't find targets on a loop you enjoy doing (thus, there aren't that much corps doing it solely): Originally by: Eto Tekai And whyle I agree to the earlier comments that corps should be able to invite anyone they want, I just don't understand why you wouldnt want a talented player who enjoys suside ganking hulks and haulers when they have to much sec status built up. or making players angry by harassing them in highsec. You could say, go to lowsec and do those actitives, but then i would need a corp with like minded people. ive already tried that and ive yet to find one with more then a dozen people. and trust me, I've looked. 3) You want a high-sec pos to have a 'save' place for your labs and a 'flag' to show off with: Originally by: Eto Tekai Seems kind of lame to have a corporation and not have a base of operations with lab capability and in-space defensive safespot during wardecs. Shouldn't every real corp have a flag? 4) And you want it all at once: Originally by: Eto Tekai I tried that, and was owned by the privateers within 5 hours of my pos going up. Can't really create a corp without putting your pos up first. I dont want to spend 8 months building a corp when there are 3289048320948302 corps out there and we are 7 years into a game. Buddy, you're completely out of touch with the game and your playstyle and what you can afford with it.. 1) If you enjoy ninja'ing/can-baiting/gank'ing/pvp'ing you're at first and most NOT scared of someone pinching your POS 2) If your main goal in this game is PvP you do NOT want a POS.. not as e-peen, not as flag and especially not as 'in-space defensive safespot during wardecs' with labs 3) If you want to be in a corp with 30 like minded people (PvP Yarrr-style) you won't be able to have prey (read: idiots) all the time around, so you 'll need to move a bit at least (especially with your activity-spectrum there). TL;DR your pvp demands (ninja, gank, harrasment, roaming, 30+ peeps) doesn't really fit (high-sec-pos, no-gate-camping, no-station-camping, more-than-30-people-in-corp). You can't have ones cake and eat it too. My advice: drop the POS and go from there..
Eto LabOne	Posted - 2010.09.21 00:23:00 - [29] That was an great post man, really. Alright then so what do you suggest? I dont need a highsec pos, but I assumed if I was to create a corp, it was a requirement. Every corp I have been in so far has had them, and I have used mine a whole lot in WH space and 0.0 as a place much better to log out in then a station. If that is the case and my pvp demands are (ninja, gank, harrasment, roaming, 30+ peeps : Then what is my best course of action? 0.0 is to blob-like and tight lipped for my taste. i want a good group of friends that are active and roam 0.0 (but not live there) and often wardec and grief together.
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.09.21 00:28:00 - [30] Originally by: Eto Tekai Edited by: Eto Tekai on 20/09/2010 21:27:14 Quote: insert long post about how great random corp is, Recruiting PVP Pilots! Pirates, Griefers ect. need NOT apply! This seems to be such a common thing for people to add to their recruitment posts. This honestly to me, makes no sense. I can understand you not wanting corp theives, but there are a lot of honest players who will not take your stuff , but want to play this game to suside gank, kill people in lowsec, Ninja loot missions in hopes of retalition, and a slew of other activities that these corps do not want. They need to realize that most PVP pilots, protect and defend in times of war, enjoy doing these things? Who in their right mind would want to join a corp like this if they are into PVP. Just by reading these types posts makes me want to war-dec them I know for a fact that you will be easy kills. "Pirate" style activities are huge part of this game and they need to just deal with it and allow your corp mates to have fun in the game any way they feel like it. If you cant understand then obviously its not the corp for you. Additionally you are also a bit dense. Wherever you went - Here you are.

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