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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.21 00:31:00 -
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My favorite play style is Sniper!
And from 150km away it is the best!
-- Alara's Law!
As an online discussion on EVE ships grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Dominix approaches 1 |
Eto LabOne
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Posted - 2010.09.21 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Eto LabOne on 21/09/2010 00:33:44
Quote: Additionally you are also a bit dense.
Thats kind of uncalled for? I simply stated that it was annoying that so many corps don't like some of the key elements of this game that make it dangerous and fun. I want to join your 150 man PVE Mission corp with 20 or 30 guys that pvp, but for some reason you are mad when I blow up some guy's hulk, costing myself about 8 mill and him 200? that is just plain fun and you should try it sometime.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.09.21 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 21/09/2010 01:16:38
Originally by: Eto LabOne Alright then so what do you suggest? I dont need a highsec pos, but I assumed if I was to create a corp, it was a requirement. Every corp I have been in so far has had them, and I have used mine a whole lot in WH space and 0.0 as a place much better to log out in then a station..
In w-space they are a needed if you plug your roots down. In k-space-null you're safe from bubbles/hostiles. In k-space-low/high.. no need.
Originally by: Eto LabOne ..my pvp demands are (ninja, gank, harrasment, roaming, 30+ peeps : Then what is my best course of action? 0.0 is to blob-like and tight lipped for my taste. I want a good group of friends that are active and roam 0.0 (but not live there) and often wardec and grief together.
Seems you want to square the circle. People who gank/ninja/harass/pick-on-weaker-all-the-time wont go along very well I guess. You can't expect people to trust you with their stuff (be best friends) and on the same moment you spank anything that's weak.. that's diametral. You want a community with all it's cool features and on the same time enjoy anti-social douche behavior. That wont work, especially in larger groups as you got no glue to keep it together (they call this 'common goal'). Anti-social behavior ain't no common-goal - in case you don't know.
There aren't that many big pirate groups around in a single place (as group to hang out with) as the prey they rely on and get their fun out of avoid those places/get removed from there, thus those groups can't get that big as it gets boring for them.
I would even go so far to state that there aren't any targets (which you prefer to pick on), which require more than 5 people. Anything that requires more on your side to successfully beat-up (read: won't be able to defend successfully) did already adjust it's tactics and counters with a bigger/more powerful force (POS, blob, ..).
So I really don't know what to suggest, except that you will have to drop some more than POS to get it working for you..
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.09.21 01:12:00 -
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We do not accept pirates, griefers, or other undesirables into our structure. PVP'ing is great, engaging in unsportsmanlike conduct is not. I like me. 101st Space Marine Force Senior Recruiter |
Eto Tekai
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Posted - 2010.09.21 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Eto Tekai on 21/09/2010 01:14:52 Awe to bad.. that is just no fun to hear.
I have a long history with corps for being active and a good member, and I am not a thief. thief =/= griefer. I would be happy if I never got a single role. Shoot i don't want to be a leader, If i did i would have created my own corp.
So no picking on people, or I won't get 20 man low/null sec roams with good friendly people to fly with?
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.09.21 01:15:00 -
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I think i'll join a Pirate corp and just mine and run missions. If they ever need help i'll politely tell them i'm in the middle of an L4 or ice mining.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Eto LabOne
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Posted - 2010.09.21 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Eto LabOne on 21/09/2010 01:19:02 That was a terrable troll man, Try harder. I have several accounts and I would go to every fleet the corp FC made. If you think i mission and mine (on the charecter I plan to be pvping with) Then you must think I am doing it wrong.
My income comes from wormholes anyway, bet i spend more time out side of highsec then you do. Doesn't mean I want to live there.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.09.21 03:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ghoest on 21/09/2010 03:27:47
Originally by: Eto LabOne Edited by: Eto LabOne on 21/09/2010 00:33:44
Quote: Additionally you are also a bit dense.
Thats kind of uncalled for? I simply stated that it was annoying that so many corps don't like some of the key elements of this game that make it dangerous and fun. I want to join your 150 man PVE Mission corp with 20 or 30 guys that pvp, but for some reason you are mad when I blow up some guy's hulk, costing myself about 8 mill and him 200? that is just plain fun and you should try it sometime.
No. and Wrong.
You didnt simply state that you found something annoying. Rather you said you didnt understand something that was exceedingly obvious - thus you are dense.
If your point had been simply to whine about people who dont want to be with you - fine. Youre a whiner but at least that woundnt mean youre a dummy.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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KrustyKrab
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Posted - 2010.09.21 03:43:00 -
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hrmmm...I'm a pirate and I like killing players in lowsec.
I don't dig ninja looting, can flipping, any of that stuff, but if my fellow pirates are into it (or at least have the sec status to get into highsec and do it) then more power to them. I've been a carebear and I leave carebearing to them, let them do what they want, no concern of mine now that I can't get into highsec.
My only pet peeve is people who grief total noobs who haven't been playing but a month or so and haven't left high sec yet. Leave high sec and you are fair game though.
Those kinds of players rarely will venture into low/null however, as the ratio of easy kills goes down drastically when everyone shows up in a pvp ship/gang.
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Zan Shiro
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Posted - 2010.09.21 05:27:00 -
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Edited by: Zan Shiro on 21/09/2010 05:29:03 Its a corp's call to determine how they run. Some corps don't dig piracy cause it makes for a bad image. Their corp ticker shows up in the mail...they have a say in who uses it and for what purpose. grief mails don't look right next to say your boys bagging a carrier or if lucky a SC lol. Especially if allianced up where your grief kills stand out like sore thumbs next to a kick ass cap battle the same day. Alliance mates bagged an SC...and there is some idiots km of 2 day noob in a navitas right below it...way to show off what you and your corp is capable of lol. Don't like it...recruitment threads here and on scrapheap with lots of pirates crews to choose from.
I was in one corp not into griefing....on the main. Out of corp alts....do whatever you want. No need to even hide alt activity. Just keep thier corp ticker clean is all they asked. Alt not on teh corp ticker, corp kb not flooded with trash kills ( popping noobs, mission runners, miners in empire is not pvp). Hell if your alt found a juicy enemy alliance target slumming in low sec or even empire...tell the corp, might be a bit of fun for all if something can be arranged to get out there.
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Tellenta
Gallente versic LLC
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Posted - 2010.09.21 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Eto LabOne Edited by: Eto LabOne on 21/09/2010 00:33:44
Quote: Additionally you are also a bit dense.
Thats kind of uncalled for? I simply stated that it was annoying that so many corps don't like some of the key elements of this game that make it dangerous and fun. I want to join your 150 man PVE Mission corp with 20 or 30 guys that pvp, but for some reason you are mad when I blow up some guy's hulk, costing myself about 8 mill and him 200? that is just plain fun and you should try it sometime.
I typed a reply but this piece of **** forums ate it.
No it really isn't uncalled for, Suicide ganking is an element in this game. However, it sure as hell is not a key element in the game. Yes I understand it is fun, hell suiciding freighters is how invicta got the isk together to buy our titan (that and passing the hat around corp). What it sounds like to me is you want to be a pirate, but don't know how... Which is odd in itself.
Also wtf does a POS have to do with anything?!?! Are you trolling?
dammit.
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Shawshanke
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Posted - 2010.09.21 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Eto Tekai Edited by: Eto Tekai on 20/09/2010 21:27:14
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insert long post about how great random corp is, Recruiting PVP Pilots!
Pirates, Griefers ect. need NOT apply!
This seems to be such a common thing for people to add to their recruitment posts.
This honestly to me, makes no sense. I can understand you not wanting corp theives, but there are a lot of honest players who will not take your stuff , but want to play this game to suside gank, kill people in lowsec, Ninja loot missions in hopes of retalition, and a slew of other activities that these corps do not want. They need to realize that most PVP pilots, protect and defend in times of war, enjoy doing these things? Who in their right mind would want to join a corp like this if they are into PVP.
Just by reading these types posts makes me want to war-dec them I know for a fact that you will be easy kills. "Pirate" style activities are huge part of this game and they need to just deal with it and allow your corp mates to have fun in the game any way they feel like it.
Honestly there are a lot of boring, annoying players in this game who drone on endlessly about the can they flipped or pod they popped. Having no real value at all to talk to or spend time with I can understand not wanting them in your corp
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Hecatonis
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.21 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Eto Tekai I just don't understand why you wouldnt want a talented player who enjoys suside ganking hulks and haulers when they have to much sec status built up. or making players angry by harassing them in highsec.
ok let me explain this to you because by reading this i dont think this ever crossed your mind.
maybe because ganking hulks don't show that you have any skill other the being able to fit a ship that can DPS faster then it takes concord to get there. <- that is not skill thats a cheep shot on someone that cant really fight back and most likely afk.
and maybe trying to 'making players angry by harassing them' shows that you get bored easy and lack a level of maturity. what CEO would want to baby someone so they dont make an @$$ of themselves and cause him to have more work to do.
your answering your own questions here man, people dont want you because you will not help, but hinder the corp as a whole. sorry to break it too you.
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Hyveres
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.21 07:53:00 -
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Dunno pirates and griefers generally know how to handle their ships and kill stuff better than your average missionrunning carebear.
Dont think I've seen a lot of 0.0 corps that are biased against them.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot." - Vulcan Raven, The Last Days Of Foxhound |
Tellenta
Gallente versic LLC
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Posted - 2010.09.21 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hyveres Dunno pirates and griefers generally know how to handle their ships and kill stuff better than your average missionrunning carebear.
Dont think I've seen a lot of 0.0 corps that are biased against them.
Actually I don't know to many corps that care in the least, I do however know a bunch that want players to keep their sec status up so they can move through highsec if the need calls. Of course I am talking about corps that are actually worth a damn, not some highsec mission running/mining/industry corp which seems to be what the op is whining about.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.09.21 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Eto Tekai I just don't understand why you wouldnt want a talented player who enjoys suside ganking hulks and haulers when they have to much sec status built up. or making players angry by harassing them in highsec.
"Talented", this got me the tears in my eyes, "talented"....
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation
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Posted - 2010.09.21 08:35:00 -
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is hate and loathing every living creature a playstyle? ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.09.21 08:41:00 -
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Yeah it is a problem. Still trying to find a corp thief friendly corp myself. Often when I mention that I strive to be a successful corp thief and blue on blue ganker in EVE, recruiters just close the convo or don't return my mail.
To me it is clear that certain play styles are being discriminated against and CCP should do something about it (mandatory application acceptance / preferred play style never being able to be the only ground for a denial).
/friendly sarcasm ;-)
Recruiting. |
SirDynty
Boiians
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Posted - 2010.09.21 09:47:00 -
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you talk about pirate corps <12 ppls,and i wonder how many peoples are needed to suicide gank an Hulk in hisec,or ninja salvage mission? same for empire wars,its not done in 30man gangs :) i would join Factional Warfare tbh,did you tried it? ----------------------------- http://forum.boiians.cz/ |
Feyona
Locus Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.21 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: SirDynty you talk about pirate corps <12 ppls,and i wonder how many peoples are needed to suicide gank an Hulk in hisec,or ninja salvage mission? same for empire wars,its not done in 30man gangs :) i would join Factional Warfare tbh,did you tried it?
Seconding this, plenty of people to be around in FW and nobody to tell you that you can't pirate. (Maybe some will, but who gives a crap?) Many FW corps allow and encourage pirating anyway. It's pretty much like being in an alliance, but nobody can tell you what to do or kick you out. (Unless you shoot enough blues. ) Come check it out, Amarr/Minmatar is fairly active and also right next to Amamake. It was basically designed for newbies and misfits. |
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Solra Wolfe
GunStars
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Posted - 2010.09.21 11:15:00 -
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The Bastards My Loot Your Tears
Why don't you try these links? They are people dedicated to ninja salvaging, and general ass-hattery.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [GNSTR]
GO CANADA! |
Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.09.21 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 20/09/2010 23:36:53
Originally by: Eto Tekai
This seems to be such a common thing for people to add to their recruitment posts.
This honestly to me, makes no sense. I can understand you not wanting corp theives, but there are a lot of honest players who will not take your stuff , but want to play this game to suside gank, kill people in lowsec, Ninja loot missions in hopes of retalition, and a slew of other activities that these corps do not want. They need to realize that most PVP pilots, protect and defend in times of war, enjoy doing these things?
Ill start off with this..I wouldnt want em either.
There is a big difference between what ccp calls a griefer..and what really is a griefer.All the things like ganking..ninja salvaging and what not are a form of griefing.They all have one thing in common..messing with people who dont want to be messed with.It shows a type of character in that person..that many want nothing to do with.People with a need for tears.Believe it or notthere are people who just want to enjoy the game.Not saying they dont want to pvp..but they like a competition and not lameness.Ganking a hulk..as funny as it may be earns you no cool points at all.Unloading 5 ravens on a single ship..earns you no cool points either.(Note that some do this for isk..and thats ok)but it takes no skill at all.Scanning takes a bit of effort to do..sure,but its also done mostly for the "tears"and to ruin peoples missions.Nothing wrong with any of this cuz it puts a little danger in eve..but dont cry when said carebears leave the nest and start pvping,and want nothing to do with theses types.
Take the bad guy path and you got to be ready to be rejected by alot of people.Im not knocking all these people..allot of em are cool guys.But doing these things doesnt earn you any trust other than with your own kind.Even they will sleep with one eye open lol.
Edit:youll end up with some trash like this in your corp Linkage
Pretty much nailed it, plenty of people don't want to deal with the kind of activities the OP enjoys and thinks/thought all PVP'ers enjoy. I'll add that many of the corporations that don't want those people also might want members they can feel will 'behave' doing griefer BS can bring on unwanted wars/disputes if/when the 'wrong' person gets hit, they might want to choose their own battles rather than get drawn into some epeen/griefer BS or get targeted by some other anti-pirate corp because their members behave like griefers. -------------------------------------------------------------- Fanboys would make great cult members. |
Sully Tude
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Posted - 2010.09.21 11:42:00 -
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OP: STFU.
Everyone else: Stop feeding him. This is just a whine thread with no coherant thought put into it.
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ollobrains
5th Front enterprises Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.09.21 11:45:00 -
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all the fun is to be had in low sec - high sec ganking if youre sec status can take it oh and of course wormhole divebombing theres a lot of targets that have slipped into wh space if u can probe or find a corp with a decent prober and it suits go nuts.
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Riedle
Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances
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Posted - 2010.09.21 11:49:00 -
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I don't let carebears in my corp and still no one wants to join.
lol
*sniffs under arms*
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.21 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Eto Tekai I assume by your attempted de-railment that you guys infact have successful roaming pvp corporations of more then 12 people and do not have a pos? If so awesome, what exactly do you do, and your members do not find it bad that you don't own a pos?
Having been on the receiving end of several high sec wardec in high sec in the last months I would say that the 12 man corp (plus RR alts) is about the optimal size.
If your composition is right you get all of the corp members logged in at the same time (as the corp get larger it become increasing more difficult) and can easily gang up members of a fairly larger not focused corp.
Increasing the size beyond that point don't seem to allow larger gangs unless your corp get very large.
A POS for a wardeccin/griefing corp is mostly a negative thing as it will give a target for the enemy when you are not on line. Most "carebear" corps would have a easier time gathering a fleet to do some POS bashing that one to case some member of your corp.
If you really want a POS start a alt corp where your alts and the alts of the other corp members will do only research.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.09.21 13:14:00 -
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Quote:
Edit: darn it, posted on alt again.
Seems kind of lame to have a corporation and not have a base of operations with lab capability and in-space defensive safespot during wardecs.
Shouldn't every real corp have a flag?
- Have the POS in low sec
- Have an alts corp, where people can carebear at a POS with no immediate wardec danger.
I have been in both types of corp and both work. - Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.21 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren I've mostly seen that in 0.0 and high sec war dec corps. 0.0 peeps want you out in 0.0 defending their space, and high sec peeps realize that you prolly can't get into high sec. I stopped caring a long time ago, because any corp that says "no piracy" will almost certainly end up booting me out. That or they'll get booted out of their alliance... depending.
-Liang
Indeed. I find it best to make your own corp and wreck havoc as you please. Yarr! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.09.21 14:24:00 -
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IŠll help you out to get decent corp.
1) Go to recruitment forum. 2) Make thread like "A**hat is searching for a**hat corp". 3) Make sure they understand you are a "elitist pvper" by 4) Telling them how good you are in can flipping 5) Telling them how good you are in griefing generally. 6) Telling them how many mining barges youŠve killed 7) Telling them that you are the state of the art in ninja salvaging. 8) Telling them how many damsels you have stolen. 9) Telling them how may noob ships you killed in noob systems. 10) Await answers. 11) ????? 12) Profit
Hope this helps.
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Eto LabOne
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Posted - 2010.09.21 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Eto LabOne on 21/09/2010 14:43:11
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1) Go to recruitment forum. 2) Make thread like "A**hat is searching for a**hat corp". 3) Make sure they understand you are a "elitist pvper" by 4) Telling them how good you are in can flipping 5) Telling them how good you are in griefing generally. 6) Telling them how many mining barges youŠve killed 7) Telling them that you are the state of the art in ninja salvaging. 8) Telling them how many damsels you have stolen. 9) Telling them how may noob ships you killed in noob systems. 10) Await answers. 11) ????? 12) Profit
And I am the one being called dense? Just becuase I like doing the above things, Does not mean that I do not enjoy group pvp in either a BC or a T2 cruiser / fast tackle ect. You are not giving me enough credit. Look eto tekai up on eve-kill, I would have even more that list but I've spent the last few months flying guardian and not getting on killmails.
I did make a post in the recruitment forums a few weeks ago, and everyone that responded or messaged me didn't do any 12+ person roaming. They either all carebear in 0.0 and gatecamp the entrence, or get 300 people together for a structure bash. These are not the things I am looking for. I am looking for a group to pvp and have a good time with, that is based out of highsec, that doesnt give a damn what I do in fear of wardec's. For those of you calling suside ganking ect. no skill... Who cares if it is no skill.. it is fun! I do plenty of things that require skill, Look at my duelbox wormhole kills or my suside bomber tackles that got my corps lots of kills as I enjoy being a forward scout. These are kills that require skill, being prepared, patient or listening to FCs. Seems that a lot of the trolls that have been posting the in this page did not read the thread =/
I guess creating a dissussion thread on the forums is considered whining..
Anyway thanks for all the legitimate replys. It looks like I will not find what I am looking for, which is a shame. By all accounts it looks like I do have to live in 0.0 in order to get roaming gangs, Lets hope I can find one that is willing to leave their home system defense fleets =/
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