this extra minerals thing how can it be enforced? like is there some kind of flagging system ccp has for prepatch procurers and post patch procurers?

i say this because when you pay 20-25 mil for the procurer you expect it to be worth that, reprocessing that procurer should yield you the minerals that are very close in value to what you paid for the procurer. in all other t1 mods you can refine them and get the minerals back. battleships are a prime example, when those ships fall below mineral cost they are snapped up refined or held for later on.


so i reiterate my question here. how does ccp define prepatch procurers and postpatch procurers? or if this is a timed event for adding the extra minerals column when can we expect procurers to be worth what we pay for them?

Edit: To see whats going on, go to Sisi, get a Procurer BPO and try to build a ship. When setting up the job you will get a table of materials needed. The materials needed will have two tables: One titled "Raw Materials" and one titled "Extra Materials".

On Sisi, I bought and reprocessed a Procurer. It produced the old mineral amount despite the new amounts on the BPO. Have not tried building one, then reprocessing it. CCP could actually have 2 entries for the ships: Old Procurer, New Procurer. Everything the same except the mineral amount.

Edit: To see whats going on, go to Sisi, get a Procurer BPO and try to build a ship. When setting up the job you will get a table of materials needed. The materials needed will have two tables: One titled "Raw Materials" and one titled "Extra Materials".

[quote=Salpad]
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35M T1 Covetor
300M T2 hulk

30M T1 Retriever
250M T2 Mackinaw

25M Procurer
200M Skiff

[quote=Lord Wickham]
I've still yet to see anyone who has said there is an "extras" tab comment about the apparent lack of any "extras" tab in game. I'll just sit on the ships I bought to see what happens.

Currently on SiSi, if you start a Procurer build job, you see "Material Costs" and "Extra Costs".

Say what you want about T1 speculators, but Retriever prices are already getting dangerously close to 20mil all over the place. (except Jita)

One thing I've been wondering is, will the BPO's be increased in cost post-patch as well?

about 500 Procurer BPO`s have been sold in Jita in the last couple of days wich means that there will probably 270.000 procurers coming out of production in a month :D....good luck selling them, there only 100 miners bu them per day.

Jita trade volume is only resale. afaik the only region were you can actually buy those BPOs from NPCs is outer ring. During the last 3 weeks 1,432 procurer BPO and 536 Retriever BPO have been purchased in outer ring. That's 289,440 retriever and 773,280 procurer flooding the jita market soon (not counting mining barges produced using BPOs which already existed for more than 3 weeks). Also this: mining barge production 2011.

Especially the procurer price will probably drop close to its reprocessing value for several years. Maybe the low price causes them to be used more often using up the stock faster.