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Bubanni
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.08.01 00:38:00 -
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I think buying sec status for isk is an good idea... but with some restrictions you wont be able to buy it above -2.0... you can only do it once every 3 months (or month) and the price would have to be about 500mil (not a plex) to do so
Then sec status could be one of those isk sinks people choose themselves to use if they want.
Also, gankers can come to high sec and gank your hulks with cheap thrashers in large numbers regardless of our sec status, so it has nothing to do with that at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqc2gj_G2zY here is a video of me and my corp doing just that (we are all -10 to -5, which proves my point, sec status is no hindrance)
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Colloden Tgo
Topal Navy
Topal Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:44:00 -
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To CCP:
I am in favor of allowing new (non-pve) ways to gain secstat.
To those who posted against:
Time and money are the exact same thing in Eve and most of your posts ignore this.
To those who are in favor:
If you go back over the logic of the posts that are against and ignore anyone who fails on the time is money logic you will be pleased to know that almost everyone agrees with you. |
A Soporific
Old Man Johnson's Bakery Delivery Service
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Posted - 2012.08.08 13:46:00 -
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Money is only time if everyone is maximizing profit at all times. They aren't. Low sec doesn't profit maximize, and PVP features far too much risk and is far less consistant than required for profit maximization.
Bascially IF YOU GRIND then time and money is the same thing. But the saying "Time is money" simply points out that time is a necessary resource required for acquiring revenue and that time wasted is time that could have been spent making money.
The fact of the matter is that we are against not because we don't want more was to change security status. We just want the money to come from doing something specific to earn it, as opposed to being lootd from the cargoholds of ganked freighters. When you fund something that tells people "I'm not a pirate, honest" with piracy, then it defeats the purpose and nature of the thing. |
Obsidiana
White-Noise
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:15:00 -
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All standings, Concord or an empire, take time to raise. They are easy to lose and hard to gain. There are skills to make it a lot easier. You can also get friends to help you raise standings.
The real problem is this: people will use it to make ganking easier. They will attack players, pay concord, and repeat. There is a game mechanic for this. If you want to PvP in highsec, you use wardecs. Paying off Concord (after an attack) would bypass that purposeful mechanic.
If you can pay for standings, then they begin to lose meaning. They are not meaninglessness. Low standings show that you attacked someone in highsec or lowsec. (Or you wanted the low standings and attacked gate guns.) Nullsec is the exception because they are not killing people in highsec or lowsec. If you see a player has a moderate standing and is part of a nullsec alliance, then they may have attacked players in lowsec or highsec. High standings are the ones that can be misleading.
If anything, low standings have meaning and high standings do not.
If you use foresightedness, you ransom pods and watch your standings. When they start to get low (around -2 or so), you lay off for awhile, go out to nullsec, wardec, or even steal/bait cans. You have a lot of options. |
FrinkleFace
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.08 16:36:00 -
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I have not read all of the posts in this thread but i do like your suggestion only thing i dissagree with is the price.
Here is why i dissagree:
* Gaining faction and npc standings with datacore agents (i.e. Pirate Tags) will cost you from 10m - 1.5b per one mission
and in total it can come out to a stupid amount of isk to get it all the way high.
* Having this so convinient and easy to use would make High Sec ganking unholy easy.
Here is my proposition:
Add a Concord agent that can fix your security status however for the following price:
- You can fix your standing only once every 60 days
- Like with Insurance window you can pick a packet how much you want to fix your security status:
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- -10.0 to - 9.0 == 50m or pirate tags of equal value
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- -9.0 to -8.0 == 100m
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- -8.0 to -7.0 == 150m
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- -7.0 to -6.0 == 200m
[*] so basically 50 per 1.0 sec gain. So if you want to go from -10.0 to -1.0 where you can again enter 1.0 you have to pay: 500m
[*] Or have like a slider and rounded numbers for sec.
This way you have an alternative option that can be there for those who need it but it cannot be abused and it should be somewhat expansive so its not worth it for suicide gankers. |
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