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Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.24 14:58:00 - [1] Topic comes from this article: http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/23/reality-tv-loves-polygamy.html My question is...WHY? Why would anyone want more than one spouse? What are your feelings on the matter?
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2010.09.24 15:23:00 - [2] Sweet! Now I can disappoint multiple women at once!
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.24 15:31:00 - [3] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Sweet! Now I can disappoint multiple women at once! Twice..even three times the nagging? Dealing with PMS multiple times a month? OMG..I would die.
DarthJosh DEATHFUNK	Posted - 2010.09.24 15:57:00 - [4] that's no revolution, we're already doing it. albeit we don't understand what we're doing (despite current revelations, we really do know **** all about ourselves, the more you learn eh) it's nice that we're becoming more aware though. - Desusigs!
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2010.09.24 16:16:00 - [5] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Why would anyone want more than one spouse? Because you're a religious nut who thinks that an imaginary man in the sky has commanded you to have multiple wives, and questioning your imaginary friend is a good way to earn yourself eternal torture? This of course has nothing at all to do with those in power wishing to have sex with multiple women and have it "approved", it's all a sacred burden and clearly does not benefit the man in any way. Just like it is entirely reasonable that only the men get this privilege, because, uh, god said so! Or perhaps you feel that monogamy is a result of social and biological pressures that are not relevant to your life (after all, I doubt any of us have to worry about ensuring a proper heir for our kingdom), and that love is not a zero-sum game (just like nobody feels that they can only have one friend, or one favorite band). Therefore why NOT have relationships involving multiple people (of either gender) if one or both people happen to find someone else that is a good fit? Of course these people tend to prefer the term "polyamory" to distance themselves from the polygamists who don't exactly share the same ideals of fairness and equality. -----------
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.24 16:40:00 - [6] Edited by: Intense Thinker on 24/09/2010 16:41:51 Originally by: Atticus Fynch Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Sweet! Now I can disappoint multiple women at once! Twice..even three times the nagging? Dealing with PMS multiple times a month? OMG..I would die. ^This tbh... already have 1, last thing I need is to double or triple the hell she puts me through Edit: And FYI, the new sexual revolution is all about mudkips Signature locked for editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.09.24 16:59:00 - [7] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 24/09/2010 17:00:04 Originally by: Atticus Fynch Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Sweet! Now I can disappoint multiple women at once! Twice..even three times the nagging? Dealing with PMS multiple times a month? OMG..I would die. It propably doesn't work quite like that. Your time would be split between multiple spouses, so you would not have as much time per person and they would compete for your attention and between themselves to some extent. This might mean they(and you) would want to make the best of the limited time they have with you and self censor most of the usual venom from their interaction with you. You would naturally start favoring the other spouses, if one of them constantly nagged at you. The spouses could also bond and compete with the other spouses, so maintaining their social needs wouldn't fall solely on your shoulders and having multiple intimate social companions might be better for people in general. In many ways the multiple spouses would propably have a more intimate relationship between themselves than with you. And finally, just because you are taught to be monogamous doesn't mean it is best suited for people in reality.
Culmen Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.09.24 17:03:00 - [8] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Dealing with PMS multiple times a month? Actually, thanks to Menstrual Synchrony, you might end up with multiple PMS a single time a month. Dealing with one PMSing women is one thing.... dealing with three is a circle of hell Dante would **** himself at. and further more why do i even need a sig?
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.24 17:22:00 - [9] Also when they decide to divorce you, instead of losing 1/2 of your stuff you'd lose 2/3 or 3/4 Signature locked for editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist
Caleidascope Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.09.24 18:03:00 - [10] Nothing new there. Newsweek needs to go bankrupt already, it is worthless.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.09.24 18:16:00 - [11] Edited by: Akita T on 24/09/2010 18:22:03 Originally by: Atticus Fynch My question is...WHY? [...] Twice..even three times the nagging? Dealing with PMS multiple times a month? OMG..I would die. As long as the second wife also comes with a second husband for a total of 4... or 5.. or 6... or many... as long as the ratio between male to female is not too far away from 50:50... ...the question actually becomes, WHY NOT ? Ideally, you'd have one "sensitive" pair, one "neat freak" pair, one "party-goer" pair... not necessarily actual active pairs, just one of each in the big group (in fact, it's best if they're from separate pairs - so the "sensitive" guy is paired with the "neat freak" and the "party-goer" girls, etc). And it would also help if most of them would be bisexual. Basically it would be a big group of "apartment mates with benefits" _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc.	Posted - 2010.09.24 18:35:00 - [12] The thought that any one person is the be all and end all to all of our interpersonal and physical interactions is archaic. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Sweet! Now I can disappoint multiple women at once! Now that made my laugh Originally by: Merin Ryskin Therefore why NOT have relationships involving multiple people (of either gender) if one or both people happen to find someone else that is a good fit? Of course these people tend to prefer the term "polyamory" to distance themselves from the polygamists who don't exactly share the same ideals of fairness and equality. Well put. The current trend is towards polyamory, as Merin pointed out above. Polygamy is not a beneficial practice for women, whereas polyamory, if delt with in an equal fashion, can benefit all parties. As for the PMS thing, if men would start not allowing women to get away with it then that BS will stop. The reason I say this is that I was raised in a house with 3 women. I had some very serious health issues, the whole time I was dealing with said pain I was the picture of control and comedy. This pain was much more sever then any women can complain about with menstrual cramps, we are talking about an abscess the size of a large grapefruit and as hard as oak in my abdomen. Yes, that time of the month, for women is uncomfortable, but that is no excuse for being a *****. I can also say that my relations with women are not really hindered by this mentality, and it is a mentality that I speak openly about with every woman that starts with me and then tries to put it off with the PMS excuse later when they apologize. I am not a hard ass about it, but when a woman tries to apologize for their attitude I explain to them that they need to learn to control themselves and their pain better. Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.24 19:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Caleidascope Nothing new there. Newsweek needs to go bankrupt already, it is worthless. I know, but it's worth a chuckle.
dr doooo	Posted - 2010.09.24 20:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Slade Trillgon As for the PMS thing, if men would start not allowing women to get away with it then that BS will stop. The reason I say this is that I was raised in a house with 3 women. I had some very serious health issues, the whole time I was dealing with said pain I was the picture of control and comedy. This pain was much more sever then any women can complain about with menstrual cramps, we are talking about an abscess the size of a large grapefruit and as hard as oak in my abdomen. Yes, that time of the month, for women is uncomfortable, but that is no excuse for being a *****. I can also say that my relations with women are not really hindered by this mentality, and it is a mentality that I speak openly about with every woman that starts with me and then tries to put it off with the PMS excuse later when they apologize. I am not a hard ass about it, but when a woman tries to apologize for their attitude I explain to them that they need to learn to control themselves and their pain better. Slade I think you are missing the point here Slade. Your pain may be way more intense, but your abdominal abscess doesn't turn you into a crazy horny love machine on a predictable few days, followed by an irrational unpredictable emotional mess a little while later in the month (and guess which I'm dealing with this weekend ). Having raging hormones that so obviously effect your mental state is something that is hard for men to really comprehend the effects of. I know I didn't really 'buy' it when I was younger.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.09.24 20:26:00 - [15] I believe it is practiced in Saudi Arabia... plenty of suicide bombers come from there, I wonder why?
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.24 21:36:00 - [16] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I believe it is practiced in Saudi Arabia... plenty of suicide bombers come from there, I wonder why? You may have hit on something there.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.09.24 21:50:00 - [17] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I believe it is practiced in Saudi Arabia... plenty of suicide bombers come from there, I wonder why? An illusion of every man having a shot at a woman need to be maintained to avoid rampant ****. You're only a gentleman so long, if denied prospect of ever finding a mate, you don't want to see that scenario unfold. On the topic of no women and violence, check Chinas women to men ratio. Delenda est achura.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.24 21:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Atticus Fynch Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I believe it is practiced in Saudi Arabia... plenty of suicide bombers come from there, I wonder why? You may have hit on something there. The few super rich ones hog all the women and leave the others sexually frustrated to a level where they join crazy sects and blow themselves up! It makes perfect sense Signature locked for editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2010.09.24 22:05:00 - [19] Make sure your women go both ways and problem solved.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc.	Posted - 2010.09.24 22:54:00 - [20] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 24/09/2010 22:55:56 Originally by: dr doooo I think you are missing the point here Slade. Your pain may be way more intense, but your abdominal abscess doesn't turn you into a crazy horny love machine on a predictable few days, followed by an irrational unpredictable emotional mess a little while later in the month (and guess which I'm dealing with this weekend ). Having raging hormones that so obviously effect your mental state is something that is hard for men to really comprehend the effects of. I know I didn't really 'buy' it when I was younger. Trust me, I do not underestimate the effects, but I also put a lot of weight in the abilities of humans to control themselves during periods of extreme duress. Yes I am a male and I do not know the true feelings/sensations that accompany the menstrual period, but I do expect humans that experience something every month, for a majority of their life, to be able to learn to cope. That being said, I do not hold the occasional 'situations' from women against them during these times, because I know that humans can be complete insensitive asses; but for certain individual women, it is crutch that is used to abuse the situation. Hell most women espouse the 'fact' that they have superior pain thresholds as compared to men because they are the child bearers. Where is that pain control when they are dealing with cramps, bloating, and the changes in their hormane levels? So until a women gets away with murder because she was menstruating I will continue to give less slack to menstrual women then my fellow male compatriots do. Originally by: Intense Thinker The few super rich ones hog all the women and leave the others sexually frustrated to a level where they join crazy sects and blow themselves up! It makes perfect sense You know that is a good point Originally by: Barakkus Make sure your women go both ways and problem solved. We have a winner! Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
lachesis	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:27:00 - [21]
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:39:00 - [22] Edited by: Sturmwolke on 25/09/2010 00:41:44 WHY? Man's viewpoint, the more the merrier. I would like to dream of my own personal harem filled with attractive girls of all sorts. More variety, more spice ... and more of my own offsprings. Female's viewpoint, biology isn't an issue since their offsprings are really from their own DNA (and the male of course). The basics of self-continuation is satisfied for the female. Since traditionally they're not the main bread winner, it makes more sense to live with a male who can provide adequately all their needs .... whether the male already has two or three other females in the house. This behaviour is fairly prevalent in the extreme areas of human habitations and poorer countries. As to the possible question of females thinking like males (i.e. have as many offsprings with different males), there could be a few but probably extremely rare due to the social conditions. There's also possibly some genetic programming/memory that goes into the subconcious that modifies how females think .... aside from the working descriptions on how their brain & thinking works differently from the male. Finally, add the cosmetic layers of customs, religion and culture conditioning that leads to a variety of emotional responses to the term polygamy, there you have it - people asking WHY!!?? ... because they're unable to strip of those layers. Ho hum ... it's nothing new. /minor wording change
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:41:00 - [23] Originally by: Sturmwolke WHY? Man's viewpoint, the more the merrier. I would like to dream of my own personal harem filled with attractive girls of all sorts. More variety, more spice ... and more of my own offsprings. Female's viewpoint, biology isn't an issue since their offsprings are really from their own DNA (and the male of course). The basics of self-continuation is satisfied for the female. Since traditionally they're not the main bread winner, it makes more sense to live with a male who can provide adequately all their needs .... whether the male already has two or three other females in the house. This custom is fairly prevalent in the extreme areas of human habitations and poorer countries. As to the possible question of females thinking like males (i.e. have as many offsprings with different males), there could be a few but probably extremely rare due to the social conditions. There's also possibly some genetic programming/memory that goes into the subconcious that modifies how females think .... aside from the working descriptions on how their brain & thinking works differently from the male. Finally, add the cosmetic layers of customs, religion and culture conditioning that leads to a variety of emotional responses to the term polygamy, there you have it - people asking WHY!!?? ... because they're unable to strip of those layers. Ho hum ... it's nothing new. Big extra l÷l at you for automatically thinking yourself a man with women, instead of the one without. Delenda est achura.
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2010.09.25 00:51:00 - [24] Originally by: Wendat Huron Big extra l÷l at you for automatically thinking yourself a man with women, instead of the one without. No pain, no gain
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.09.25 01:13:00 - [25] Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 25/09/2010 01:15:28 I think two view points have come forth here. One, from the horny young single men that see having multiple girls in one household as a plus (for obvious reasons). Two, from the seasoned, married for many years, older men who see having multiple girls in one household as a complete nightmare. Take it from the experienced guys, playboy magazine is fantasy, not reality. In other words, see how sexy you feel when your wives send you out shopping for tampons because they are out and they feel too ugly to go to the store. The look of pity from the check-out register clerk says it all. ...and god help you if you get the wrong kind or size.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation	Posted - 2010.09.25 01:18:00 - [26] Originally by: Akita T Basically it would be a big group of "apartment mates with benefits" I can see so many ways this would either crash and burn or become awesome. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Templar Dane Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2010.09.25 02:57:00 - [27] Edited by: Templar Dane on 25/09/2010 02:58:17 Originally by: Atticus Fynch Edited by: Atticus Fynch on 25/09/2010 01:15:28 I think two view points have come forth here. One, from the horny young single men that see having multiple girls in one household as a plus (for obvious reasons). Two, from the seasoned, married for many years, older men who see having multiple girls in one household as a complete nightmare. Take it from the experienced guys, playboy magazine is fantasy, not reality. In other words, see how sexy you feel when your wives send you out shopping for tampons because they are out and they feel too ugly to go to the store. The look of pity from the check-out register clerk says it all. ...and god help you if you get the wrong kind or size. Divorcee here. I was only made to go get tampons once, and I came back with the large extra-absorbent ones. My thinking was that I should buy the ones that covered all the bases, because I thought that having too much tampon was better than having ones that weren't...enough. Instead of a "thank you so much for being man enough to walk into a store and buy me feminine products" I got the you-aren't-getting-laid-for-months stare.
Florio Miniature Giant Space Hamsters	Posted - 2010.09.25 04:15:00 - [28] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: Atticus Fynch Why would anyone want more than one spouse? Because you're a religious nut who thinks that an imaginary man in the sky has commanded you to have multiple wives... To send these types of people into an apoplectic fit, agree that polygamy should be legal, but that of course the rules should apply equally to women.
The AEther Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2010.09.25 05:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton I believe it is practiced in Saudi Arabia... plenty of suicide bombers come from there, I wonder why? they can't get laid because all of the women were taken by the few guys in power so they become very angry and suicidal? zero blues 0.0 pvp, pvp classes
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.09.25 05:24:00 - [30] Originally by: Templar Dane Divorcee here. I was only made to go get tampons once, and I came back with the large extra-absorbent ones. My thinking was that I should buy the ones that covered all the bases, because I thought that having too much tampon was better than having ones that weren't...enough. Instead of a "thank you so much for being man enough to walk into a store and buy me feminine products" I got the you-aren't-getting-laid-for-months stare. Geez, no wonder you got divorced j/k... or am I ? You know next to nothing about both task avoidance or covering your ass... whenever you get asked to purchase something for anybody, you ask them so many questions about WHAT EXACTLY they want you to get them and you ask about various contingencies in case you can't find the stuff they're looking for until they either give up and get it themselves or you actually get what they wanted. That works the same for anything anybody ever asks you to do. Unless you are absolutely 100% certain of what you need to do, you refuse to do anything before you cover all possible bases so in case you do something wrong (and they didn't cover it) it's "not your fault". Bonus points for asking the really pointless (and/or potentially embarrassing) questions first, so they would just give up earlier and tell you "just get whatever you find". Then, might also want to do it (a little) wrong intentionally while precisely following ALL of their instructions so far. Just so they won't ask you to do it again, while still feeling they were at fault (at least partially). _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _

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