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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.02 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 02/10/2010 21:02:13
N/M fit doest meet the OP I lost my Sniper Position!
And everyone else loses my Sniper Moa!
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
League of Gentlemen
Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2010.10.02 23:31:00 -
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Very educational.
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Tozmeister
Digital Fury Corporation
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.10.03 10:32:00 -
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What about cheap/easily available faction modules? being as you have unlimited implants and alts in T3.
if so, whats the price cap on a single module?
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2010.10.03 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Marko Riva on 03/10/2010 11:15:01
Edited by: Marko Riva on 03/10/2010 11:10:48
There is no cruiser than can omni tank 500 (without using ridiculous fittings) while at the same time having dps and tackle and doing it on it's own (no gang links or silly implants). Especially not when trying to armour tank it. Only thing that would get you tank that would be a SPR shield fit or an oversized shield booster running for 30 seconds but still your slots will be "wasted" on MWD, scram and damage mods.
It's just not possible.
Get a gang linked Cyclone, that'll easily meet your required stats while still being cheap and fast.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.10.04 02:07:00 -
[65]
 Originally by: Marko Riva
Edited by: Marko Riva on 03/10/2010 11:16:53
There is no cruiser than can omni tank 500 (without using ridiculous fittings) while at the same time having dps and tackle and doing it on it's own (no gang links or silly implants). Especially not when trying to armour tank it. Only thing that would get you tank that would be a SPR shield fit or an oversized shield booster running for 30 seconds but still your slots will be "wasted" on MWD, scram and damage mods.
It's just not possible.
Get a gang linked Cyclone, that'll easily meet your required stats while still being cheap and fast.
Hence my earlier post of Liang being an evil bastage..
Originally by: Blane Xero
Zeba a fanboi, Haha, Christ, Pull the other one will you.
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There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tozmeister
What about cheap/easily available faction modules? being as you have unlimited implants and alts in T3.
if so, whats the price cap on a single module?
That's a great question. The point of the exercise was to give the other party no clue why they were getting roflstomped. As such, I'm happier with best named/T2 mods - but perhaps I should loosen up a bit on cheap cheap faction. I'll tell you what - if the faction mod is cheaper than a 1600 RT, you can use it. I guess that puts about a 5 mil upper limit on it?
Originally by: Marko Riva
no gang links or silly implants
Two things:
- I specifically said 5% hardwirings were allowed.
- I didn't discount gang links. There was a reason I called for EFT warriors.
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Get a gang linked Cyclone, that'll easily meet your required stats while still being cheap and fast.
Sure, I could do that... but it isn't what I want to do in the game.
-Liang
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Das Governator
The Republican Party
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Posted - 2010.10.04 05:45:00 -
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Well, I figure since I didn't use an IFFA I get to put that isk to a DG Large booster. I think this is quite reasonable. It has a prom mod, tackle, and no one will ever imagine it's gonna stomp them.
I was working on an arbitrator, but that extra mid and extra turret slot really does it here. Mind you though, it IS possible on arbitrator without an AB...
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
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Posted - 2010.10.04 05:59:00 -
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Wonder what the cheapest faction T1 cruiser is (navy exequror?)? Maybe use that.
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc
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Posted - 2010.10.04 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Marko Riva on 04/10/2010 08:56:08
Originally by: Liang Nuren
I didn't discount gang links. There was a reason I called for EFT warriors
-Liang
While not "mentioning" that gang links were allowed didn't help, WITH gang links there are a few options. Of those options the Moa is the best imo, partly because of the "lol, it's a Moa" factor (a lot of people who have no clue have that), partly because it doesn't really use drones for it dps much and mostly because it's just a good ship for the experiment.
Backed by a standard mindlinked gang Tengu. When overheating the mods it'll pass the requirements as you put them. Ship itself is cheap as fek, the money is in the Tengu and implants (neither of which you should lose in lowsec).
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.10.04 10:29:00 -
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If the idiot wants to do something stupid for the lulz, at least let him figure it out himself.
If anyone gets popped by you, do you think they will give a crap ?
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Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
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Posted - 2010.10.04 10:53:00 -
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HG crystal'd + Moa w/ assigned fighters. Bonus points if you get a ganglink Tengu in the matter.
What do I win?
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Riva
While not "mentioning" that gang links were allowed didn't help, WITH gang links there are a few options. Of those options the Moa is the best imo, partly because of the "lol, it's a Moa" factor (a lot of people who have no clue have that), partly because it doesn't really use drones for it dps much and mostly because it's just a good ship for the experiment.
TBH, the biggest reason I didn't mention it is because I wanted maximum WTF factor. A dual rep Myrm tanks about 550 DPS, which is what most of these cruisers are pulling down too - and at a third the sig radius. Also, I felt it would be a good educational experience.
And the reason I asked at all is because I was beginning to use a lot of my own time trying various fits to meet my own requirements. I wanted to play the game instead of EFT warrior it - so why not crowdsource the implementation?
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the money is in the Tengu and implants (neither of which you should lose in lowsec).
Agreed - that's exactly the point.
As to your Moa fit: man electrons just drive me up a wall because of their limited range. Swapping the DC for an RCU lets you fit 4 Ions and an Electron. The DPS difference is minimal, but the range is significant. Overall, I'd really like to use the Moa just because the WTF factor is so enormous. It just needs an extra mid so I can put a freaking invuln on there.
Anyway - thanks for all the entries. I'll probably let this go a couple more days before sending some ISK to the better participants.
-Liang
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Project Sigma
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Posted - 2010.10.04 17:18:00 -
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Liang, thank you, because I guess I hadn't quite realized how incredibly risk-averse the Eve online crowd had become.
I can't speak for Liang, but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter that there's 50 different ways that this could be done better. It doesn't matter that it could be easily achieved by a dozen other ships. Bigger does not always equal better, and sometimes things need to be done - and this is a hard concept to handle - because it's FUN. I applaud Liang for taking a risk instead of obsessing over his precious killboard stats. And really, even if you lose 4/5 times, the lulz generated by that one win is like a DD aimed straight at your targets e-peen.
The funny part is all the guys going "Hurr BC is bettar! UR Dum!" are the ones that are going to engage this ship thinking it's an easy kill, and then cry hot delicious space tears when their FoTM buffer fit BC or HAC dies to a Moa.
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Das Governator
The Republican Party
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Posted - 2010.10.04 17:38:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Das Governator
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Well, I figure since I didn't use an IFFA I get to put that isk to a DG Large booster. I think this is quite reasonable. It has a prom mod, tackle, and no one will ever imagine it's gonna stomp them.
I was working on an arbitrator, but that extra mid and extra turret slot really does it here. Mind you though, it IS possible on arbitrator without an AB...
[Celestis, 500!]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge M
Assault Missile Launcher II, Dread Guristas Sabretooth Light Missile
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
Sorry, I'd forgot to post the fit in useful format.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Terranid Meester
Wonder what the cheapest faction T1 cruiser is (navy exequror?)? Maybe use that.
the navy Augoror cant even get 500/500 on its own using t2 stuff, its a pipe dream without that boosting legion.
With a boosting legion you could get a far more insane BC and its bullet magnetisum on a gate with gcc without a loigi will be very similer. Even with the minor extra cost but better dps/tank, its cost effictivness will probably exceed the cruiser very quickly.
imo.
should be, fit me a ship for 50m with the same goal and let people go nuts ;P
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Eva Blacklist
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:21:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Tozmeister
What about cheap/easily available faction modules? being as you have unlimited implants and alts in T3.
if so, whats the price cap on a single module?
That's a great question. The point of the exercise was to give the other party no clue why they were getting roflstomped. As such, I'm happier with best named/T2 mods - but perhaps I should loosen up a bit on cheap cheap faction. I'll tell you what - if the faction mod is cheaper than a 1600 RT, you can use it. I guess that puts about a 5 mil upper limit on it?
Originally by: Marko Riva
no gang links or silly implants
Two things:
- I specifically said 5% hardwirings were allowed.
- I didn't discount gang links. There was a reason I called for EFT warriors.
Quote:
Get a gang linked Cyclone, that'll easily meet your required stats while still being cheap and fast.
Sure, I could do that... but it isn't what I want to do in the game.
-Liang
Well, I have secretly loved you for a long time, and... *cough* ...you ever wanted to... *cough* ...well, you get the picture. 
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Das Governator
The Republican Party
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Das Governator on 04/10/2010 22:32:26
Doesn't have as much lolwhat? factor as the celestis, but I think this is really the fit you're looking for. I was using a medium ancillary for the PG to run ions when I realized you get more DPS and less PG use going with electrons and a t1 burst aerator, and better tracking to boot. Good thing for us EFT warriors to know.
I'm not on eve right now, but pretty sure the fit is under 15mil.
Stats: Normal/Sustained (Overheat/Sustained)
EHP: 17,647
Tank: 502/502 (613/624)
DPS: 533 (589) *158 is drones*
Speed: 493 (643)
Implants:
LG Slave Set w/out omega
PG4
AX-2 (optional for this contest)
ZGM1000
ZET4000
Akemon's Zet5000
Standard Exile
Legion running links.
[Thorax, 500]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
10MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hammerhead II x5
I might have ran into this before. I was dual boxing a vexor and a bomber once and engaged this thorax thinking it'd be a quick kill. I was so surprised to see him rep both my toons dmg with no issue and take out my vexor. I warped my bomber off, quite stunned.
You can pimp this slightly by using faction medium reppers, and swap the PG implant for a ZET1000 and achieve about a 595(739) tank. This would of course destroy the cheap factor.
It's worth noting that the cargohold of a thorax will only hold 4 minutes worth of navy 800s. Including the one in the booster, that's just under four and a half minutes of cap.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.10.05 14:07:00 -
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It's worth noting that the cargohold of a thorax will only hold 4 minutes worth of navy 800s. Including the one in the booster, that's just under four and a half minutes of cap.
Yeah, that's a great thing to keep in mind. The implication there is that it'll be hard to kill a buffer tanked Drake - even disregarding the fact he has a web+scram to your scram and that he outdamages your reps a bit. Thank you for the reminder. It seems like I have a fun experiment ahead of me.
-Liang
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SuperNova221
Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club
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Posted - 2010.10.05 17:02:00 -
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[Vexor Navy Issue, Beatles]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Warp Scrambler II
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Ogre II x4
Not great for the requirements since it's drone based and faction, but with 5% implants, ganglink Legion and exile it gets 721 tank and 645 DPS. More than I expected.
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