Originally by: Loreth Algamore

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I'm new, but I won't be even close to active until about mid October when I finish training my INT/MEM learning skills. For now I just check in maybe once a day to update the skill queue.

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Originally by: Loreth Algamore

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I'm new, but I won't be even close to active until about mid October when I finish training my INT/MEM learning skills. For now I just check in maybe once a day to update the skill queue.

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Originally by: My Postman

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Originally by: Loreth Algamore

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I'm new, but I won't be even close to active until about mid October when I finish training my INT/MEM learning skills. For now I just check in maybe once a day to update the skill queue.

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Don¦t do it that way, thats just bad advice.
Get in the starter ship and go out there doing the tutorials. This might give you some hints where to go when beeing more experienced.

After doing tutorials you can do L1 missions (a frig is dirt cheep) and i even think some of the new tutorials do give out dessys when completed.

Don¦t sit on your a** just waiting to get through the learning skills.
Welcome to eve!
OP sorry for derailing, but this has to be said.

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Originally by: Cathy Drall

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Edited by: Cathy Drall on 04/10/2010 22:32:00
Edited by: Cathy Drall on 04/10/2010 22:27:19
Edited by: Cathy Drall on 04/10/2010 22:21:25
Edited by: Cathy Drall on 04/10/2010 22:13:57


I'm also doing exactly that (int/mem training) for a quite a while now, done somewhere in 43 days, you can find me on Eveboard in case you want to offer some advice. I did all the tutorials, some scanning, low level DED complexes, trading, quite some L1 and L2 missions but I haven't played a lot the last few weeks although I still read useful things about EVE. And mining is meh.

So I'll just wait for my long-awaited remap moment so I can start playing without having to bother about learning and support skills anymore. And it's not that skilling takes a lot of effort, it just takes time so I mostly play other games in the meantime while the SP accumulates. I keep track by means of EVEmon so I can insert the next skill, and the next until I have everything I need at lvl IV or V.
So atm I'm not doing a lot, I have enough RL money not to care about doing nothing now and just wait for a while, I'm not really impatient either ;).

I'm looking forward to the moment that I'm ready!! So many new ships I'll finally be able to fly!!

So in a way I'm "new" but not really in my 1st few months anymore and also not lacking ISK for the time being.

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Originally by: Liz Viscious

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I'm still new-ish myself. 4-6 months in and i'm also caught on the intellect/memory hump. I've taken the time to get familiar with EVE in as many aspects as possible while I train. I'm a perfectionist so I won't remap until i've got all my core skills to V and almost every tertiary intellect skill (armor tanking, shield tanking, ewar, rigging, drones etc.) to at least IV depending on how relavent it is to my interests. I get really bored every now and then and train up a few ship skills that don't make for more than a few days of inefficient training (can fly any bc and use any weapon system to medium size), but for the most part frigate pvp and mission running/exploring in a bc are fun enough to keep me interested in the mean time.

200ish days until I can remap and start to work on the more intensive perception/wp skills. I may have to sub an alt to keep me going after a while, but i'm trying to avoid that itch right now.

I've dabbled in a lot of things. Started with the idiotic suggestion from rookie help that I mine. Got up to a retriever and realized that was pitiful income and boring as hell. Trained a few trading skills and became something of a hauler/trader. I made my first 100mil somewhere along the way in my first months trading and realized that watching spread-sheets for optimal earnings wasn't really somthing that would keep me hooked long. I ended up running out to lowsec just to see what it was all about and joined up with the milita. I think the most important lesson I learned was getting to know players in all aspects of the game. Don't be afraid to get out there and loose a lot of isk. You're going to loose lots of isk anyhow. I'm nearly broke from doing nothing but roaming and skirmishing with the militia now, but i'm having a pretty good time of it. I can't run FW missions because I don't have a stealth bomber and my corp doesn't run those missions much anyhow (at least, not during my timezone prime-time). That said, i'd much rather have an empty wallet and a reason to log in than a full wallet and be staring at evemon all day (I used to do that too).

SO, to summarize, I think there are newbies out there and I think a lot of them are sticking with the game. I just think many of them get caught up in the initial skill grind (core skills, learning skills, etc.) and probably aren't active much until they are more established or they're very dependant on their corp to the point they don't really look for outside help for fear of loosing their life-line.

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Originally by: My Postman

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I had a look at eveboard, and when looking at your skills (and the untrained injected ones) i felt some sort of pain.

Not saying that you are doing it wrong (i would never have done it that way) but just skilling up waiting for the next remap must be very painful. I wonder how much time you spent on the subsystems skills without having any racial cruiser even at L1. And near to no gunnery skills.

I can see that you have "decent" drone skills, and are able to use light and med T2 (drone interfacing from 2 to 4 ASAP), and good shield and armor skills.
I don¦t know anything about amarr boats (as my main is gallente), and when there is a decent amarr cruiser using drones as main weaponary, i suggest to interrupt and skill up amarr cruiser 3 (which goes in notime). This you will need to do decent L2 missions.
If there is no such a vessel, go Gallente Cruiser 3 (Gall. Frig 3 prereq?), do Gall. Drone Spezi 2 (for Hobgob and Hammers II, which will be very quick as well. With your armor skills you can easily fit T2 and that will bring you through every L2. You will need any BC for L3¦s but thats another question.

This might all sound a bit confused, and i actually am, as i never saw a skillset like yours. You have 13m+ skillpoints and your best spaceship is amarr frig 3.

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Originally by: LHA Tarawa

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Let's go with CCP's numbers from latest quarterly report (june).

350K active accounts with 50K or so a year growth.

Okay, 2 accounts is common, so assume 25K real new players.

Okay, let's say half of those were brought into the game by real worl friends who immediatly brought them into their corps and are mentoring them directly.

So, maybe 10k new players per year that are new to the game, doesn't already have a mentor?

That is under 1K new players a month. So, for how long would you be so newb that you really need a mentor? A month? Two? Maybe three? So 2K-3K players really need a tutor out of a base of 350K active accounts. Less than 1%.


Now, of those 1%, how many of them believe you and trust you when you say you want to help them? Heck I have trouble getting people to trust me after I hand them millions of ISK to buy attribute implants.

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Originally by: Tranka Verrane

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Time was, I could fly to any of a dozen systems and find people just crying out for help. Now you can't get people to even have a conversation. I'm not asking for people to join my corporation, nor to dictate what they wish to do. Just to make a contact I know is going to be logged in each day. Perhaps it's just that people are more suspicious, I don't know. But something has definitely changed.

I don't know how long you've been around, perhaps that character is an alt, but trust me when i say I'm not new to this. Please don't presume to patronise me with your guessed statistics.

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