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Makhar Guild Alliance Executor Guild Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.11 16:54:00 - [1] I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS? ____ ~ Guild Alliance ~
Illwill Bill Svea Rike Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.10.11 16:56:00 - [2] It really depends on what else you will be using it for. As long as you stay with less than 4gb RAM, a 32-bit OS will do fine. However, you might want to upgrade in the future, and while a 64-bit OS will run 32-bit code, the 32-bit OS will not be able to run 64-code. Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.10.11 16:56:00 - [3] Originally by: Makhar I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS? if you get a new pc with less than 3 gigs of ram shoot yourself. seriously, 64 bit.
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2010.10.11 16:56:00 - [4] Simple answer will be 64-bit. Long answer will be "I'm too lazy to explain, just go for 64-bit".
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2010.10.11 16:58:00 - [5] Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit. youll see what I mean. lol and before I finish posting,there they go. google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself
Ollie Cromwell Caldari Seniors Clan DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2010.10.11 16:59:00 - [6] Originally by: Calathea Sata Simple answer will be 64-bit. Long answer will be "I'm too lazy to explain, just go for 64-bit". this. ----------
Cathleia	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:01:00 - [7] Originally by: HeIIfire11 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit. youll see what I mean. Yes, I see what you mean. I see you have been living under a rock. Get 64bit, there is no reason (for the normal guy) anymore to get a 32bit OS today.
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:03:00 - [8] Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:09:47 Originally by: Cathleia Originally by: HeIIfire11 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit. youll see what I mean. Yes, I see what you mean. I see you have been living under a rock. Get 64bit, there is no reason (for the normal guy) anymore to get a 32bit OS today. and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own. just google it "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit"
Ultim8Evil Ministry Of Eternal Disorder	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Makhar I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS? if you get a new pc with less than 3 gigs of ram shoot yourself. seriously, 64 bit. QFT The only problem I have encountered with years of running a 64-bit OS is that the 32-bit BIOS flashing tool for my laptop won't run and there is no 64-bit version. --------------------------------------------------------------- The victor will never be asked if he told the truth. Adolf ****** 1889 - 1945
Rudolph Heimlich	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:13:00 - [10] Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24 Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet. Originally by: HeIIfire11 and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own. Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem. To be serious... I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh.

bassie12bf1	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:14:00 - [11] Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit. youll see what I mean. lol and before I finish posting,there they go. google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself I have yet to see a game that wouldn't work under windows 7 64bit.
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24 Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet. Originally by: HeIIfire11 and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own. Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem. To be serious... I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh. By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer.. Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!!
bassie12bf1	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:18:00 - [13] Originally by: HeIIfire11 Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24 Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet. Originally by: HeIIfire11 and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own. Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem. To be serious... I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh. By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer.. Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!! I looked, founds results of stuff regarding really old games or stuff that's caused by other things.
Ultim8Evil Ministry Of Eternal Disorder	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:20:00 - [14] Originally by: bassie12bf1 Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit. youll see what I mean. lol and before I finish posting,there they go. google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself I have yet to see a game that wouldn't work under windows 7 64bit. --------------------------------------------------------------- The victor will never be asked if he told the truth. Adolf ****** 1889 - 1945
Othran Brutor tribe	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:21:00 - [15] Originally by: bassie12bf1 I have yet to see a game that wouldn't work under windows 7 64bit. I've seen PLENTY that work fine but the (32-bit) installer won't install. Admittedly they're old games but they are from the XP era. Install on XP then copy across to Win7 and most (if not all) will be fine. The installer isn't fine though and that's the issue. Unless you know why you need to stay on 32-bit then go 64-bit. There are valid reasons for staying 32-bit but they're unlikely to apply to your desktop/lappie.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:23:00 - [16] I'd install a 64-bit OS except for the fact that my original Audigy 1 Platinum with 5 1/4" expansion is not compatible with 64-bit Windows. There are no drivers for it. And I use the stuff on the front all the time for my DJ work, so it's really not an option for me yet. Why do good hardware manufacturers always backpedal on products they've made that are awesome? (Creative, Logitech, etc.) www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
Rudolph Heimlich	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:27:00 - [17] Originally by: HeIIfire11 By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer.. Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!! 64 bit works but installing stuff is always a mission.google it and you will see the tears.And my 32 rocks,with now problem playing anything turned all up.For eve..good enough anyday..with all settings on high assuming you have the right hardware. I'm not sure what your point is here. 1) Google almost anything related to popular software and you'll find people having trouble. Some of it may be right, most of it is because people don't know how to upgrade their drivers, DirectX or something else, not related to weather they run 32 or 64-bit. 2) Most of the results I found were caused by something else completely. Like this. Not to spoil the ending for someone, but it showed up at the top of the suggested search, and had nothing to do with the 64-bit OS.
Tonto Auri Vhero' Multipurpose Corp	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:28:00 - [18] Simple answer would be "depends heavily". If you do not plan to use that PC for work, go ahead, install 64bit. If you care, 32bit would be better choice, as 64bit Windows have known issues with many programs and drivers. 64 bit POSIX systems don't have issues with programs, but with drivers - more often, unfortunatelly. -- Thanks CCP for cu
Phoenix IV The 8th Order	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:30:00 - [19] Originally by: Makhar I'm upgrading PCs. The primary role of my PC is to run EVE as I usually work from my laptop. So.... although both are supported, which is better for a machine running EVE? A 64-bit OS or a 32-bit OS? If you'd like to use more than 3.5 GB RAM, install the 64-bit version. The only problem you can experience with 64-bit is that there may be no drivers for some older hardware (e.g. printers), but you can check this on the web before you install the OS. p.s. EVE works fine with Windows 7 64-bit.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:32:00 - [20] We've come to another Win98 vs. WinNT break: any software (game or otherwise) that has issues running under 64bit is incompetently programmed and needs to be given a swift metal bolt to the skull to cut its suffering short. Also, said incompetent programmers need to be told that they are incompetent, and get their skills up to par or get out of the business. Run 64 bit. If you come across something that is giving you problems, that's a good sign that you shouldn't be using it to begin with. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki

HeIIfire11	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:33:00 - [21] Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich Originally by: HeIIfire11 By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer.. Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!! 64 bit works but installing stuff is always a mission.google it and you will see the tears.And my 32 rocks,with now problem playing anything turned all up.For eve..good enough anyday..with all settings on high assuming you have the right hardware. I'm not sure what your point is here. 1) Google almost anything related to popular software and you'll find people having trouble. Some of it may be right, most of it is because people don't know how to upgrade their drivers, DirectX or something else, not related to weather they run 32 or 64-bit. 2) Most of the results I found were caused by something else completely. Like this. Not to spoil the ending for someone, but it showed up at the top of the suggested search, and had nothing to do with the 64-bit OS. My point is I have a 32 bit os..and I can run crisis turned up all the way,with aa 32x.Why the hell do I want 64?I have seen the problems first hand and its not worth it yet in my opinion.But like I said..to each their own.All I know is I have to research almost every game my wife installs because it wont install,or ctd or what ever.And I never have a problem.The guy wants to run eve..he needs no 64 bit os.Again..thats my opinion.
Lykouleon Trust Doesn't Rust	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:34:00 - [22] Originally by: HeIIfire11 My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming. Either you and/or your wife have the IQ of a goldfish, or you just bought a really crappy computer. Honestly not trolling. I've been using Win7 x64 since RC1, and I've had no problems running any game I've installed on it. As well, a good deal of developers are embracing the 64-bit architecture now, specifically releasing for the platform in conjuncture with their 32-bit versions. Hell, even the Linux kernel I run on my v-box is 64-bit. 32-bit is being phased out, go 64. Quote: Lord Makk > Be warned, Lykouleon is akin to the love-child of a Goon and a Maru'Kage, with just a touch of Butter Dog for bitterness
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:39:00 - [23] Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:45:56 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:43:36 Originally by: Lykouleon Originally by: HeIIfire11 My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming. Either you and/or your wife have the IQ of a goldfish, or you just bought a really crappy computer. Honestly not trolling. I've been using Win7 x64 since RC1, and I've had no problems running any game I've installed on it. As well, a good deal of developers are embracing the 64-bit architecture now, specifically releasing for the platform in conjuncture with their 32-bit versions. Hell, even the Linux kernel I run on my v-box is 64-bit. 32-bit is being phased out, go 64. Dont waste your last few pathetic brain cells trying to troll me..I am immune to your stupidity and do not care about your opinion. I gave the op mine,what he does with it is his own thing. 32 bit was supposed to be "phased out" long ago btw.Im still waiting.And as long as I can run crisis at full quality,I see no need for more.I buy a computer every 5 years and give away my old one..32 wont be phased out in that time and I doubt a game will come out needing more than crisis in that time. Rest of you trolls can suck my thorax..im done here
alittlebirdy	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:40:00 - [24] 64 Hell is an idiot he has no idea how many programs (even IE) still run 32bit in 64 windows, likly is too stupid to run it as admin or in compatabilty mode 8-) or is trying to play games from the DOS era. I played games dated 1999 in win 7... hmmm... 64, and more than 4 gigs of ram else you are as dumb as hell. (running 8 myself works nice for more than one eve client / game) Also I have 16 processes running in 32bit... shocking my computer has not crashed yet... lolz...
Muad 'dib Caldari Payable on Death	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:43:00 - [25] My Pc came in about 8 or 9 bits, then i put it togther and now its just one bit.
Forum Guy	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:49:00 - [26] If you want to use more than 3Gb of ram then you have no option but to use 64 bit. But that aside use 64 bit anyway.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.10.11 17:51:00 - [27] I have windows 7 64bit. I have installed hundreds of programs and dozens of games. I have never had a problem installing anything, that was actually the fault of the 64bit Operating System. People blaming the OS for installation issues need to get a clue, googling looking for problems will just find people blaming the OS because of their own ineptitude. The only time installing games will not work under a 64bit OS is if the program/game uses 16bit code (for reference, that's as old as the Sega Megadrive) Since 64bit no longer supports that architecture. TL:DR I don't need to google squat because i rely on personal experience not third party experience. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.10.11 18:02:00 - [28] It's been proven before that Hell is just an idiot. Anywho, I have been running a 64 bit OS for years, since about the Windows 7 RC1. Never had any problems relating to the fact that it was 64 bit. (one game wouldn't run because of my graphics card being too new... lol) 32 bit OS will lock you at 3 gigs of RAM, which is the bare minimum these days. Eve doesn't benefit directly from 64 bit (CCP doesn't use 64 bit things in the code), but it runs just fine in a 64 bit OS (possibly better). Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Spurty Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2010.10.11 18:04:00 - [29] check your hard drive for files larger than 4 gigs. got many? possibly you don't, but I have lots. 32 bit os chokes on them. 64 bit is already. old hat. 128 bit windows is in the pipe line Yelp!
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.10.11 18:05:00 - [30] Originally by: HeIIfire11 and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming. To each their own. Well, she must be pretty unlucky, because I've had my new machine for a month and a half already, I put Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit on it, and I have yet to find a single piece of software I tried to use that would NOT work on it without even bothering to troubleshoot anything. Well, that, or I am extremely lucky. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _



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