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Fractal Muse
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Posted - 2010.10.12 02:45:00 -
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HeIIfire11 opinion aside, the way to go is 64 bit.
There really isn't any good reason to stick with 32 bit Windows 7.
The gains you get from Windows 7 64-bit outweigh any potential backwards compatibility issue one may have with a game developed over ten years ago.
As noted, most systems come with at least 4 gigs of ram and in Windows 7 32-bit you don't get the full benefits of that. These days, more and more systems are shipping with 6 gigs or 8 gigs.
OP, do yourself a favor and go with Windows 7 64-bit.
If you have multiple accounts you'll be glad you did. Even if you have one account you'll be happy you did. There is a noticeable (to me) performance increase from Windows 7 32-bit to Windows 7 64-bit when playing EVE.
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CCP Jericho
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Posted - 2010.10.12 03:54:00 -
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Inappropriate post removed.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.10.12 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Jericho Inappropriate post removed.
Passing gesture towards This Post which seems to have been caught in the crossfire.
I see no reason that post got completely nuked, the post before it sure, but that one is fine :/ _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Yavanna Akallabeth
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Posted - 2010.10.12 04:44:00 -
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Those with win7 64bit having problems running games should go to MS and download the latest version of Direct X 9c
Also with high end ATI cards disable the Catalyst A.I.
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Makhar
Guild Alliance Executor Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.12 05:24:00 -
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Thanks everybody for all the advice. Going down the 64-bit route. ____ ~ Guild Alliance ~ |
TheSardin
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Posted - 2010.10.12 07:25:00 -
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Commander Keen runs fine on w7 64bit. So go for 64bit.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.12 08:30:00 -
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64bit ...
fake edit ... you've done it anyway ...
but 64bit seriously --
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Br41n
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.10.12 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:18:51
Originally by: Rudolph Heimlich Edited by: Rudolph Heimlich on 11/10/2010 17:14:24 Unless you are aware of any reasons for you personally not to use 64-bit, it is what you should go for. Chances are you'll do just fine with 32-bit, as very few programs for non-power users requires >4GB RAM to be allocated at any one time - eve included. But 64-bit is the future. And I am also assuming you run Windows, which has an inbuilt emulator that works well for most things that do not support 64-bit yet.
Originally by: HeIIfire11
and you want to know it all mr.under a rock.My wife has windows 7 64 and has nothing but problems installing anything,while Im already gaming.To each their own.
Rarely has the OS been the problem when a woman encounters a computer-related problem.
To be serious... I use 64-bit on all my computers and I have not had any problems installing any software or game that is caused by me using 64-bit. It has been quite a while since I've heard a lot of complaints from other people running 64-bit, so I am guessing your problem lies with outdated software or hardware instead, tbh.
By the time 64 is fully used youll be getting a new computer..
Googl it damn it,copy and past this"problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" do it now beavis!!
64 bit works but installing stuff is always a mission.google it and you will see the tears.And my 32 rocks,with now problem playing anything turned all up.For eve..good enough anyday..with all settings on high assuming you have the right hardware.
Stop trying to install windows 3.11 and windows 95 era games, anything else works fine. If you can't install normal 32 bit software ur doing something wrong or try to install ****ty coded software that tries some illegal actions which have been countered with 64 bit
Really even old games work fine in 64 bit windows 7 and i've installed loads on my pc. (As old as dungeaon keeper, serious sam TFE, might and magic V, x-wing vs tie fighter, dark forces)
Don't try to scare ppl because you fail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pinky: Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?
Brain: The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.12 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 12/10/2010 09:46:03
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 17:01:01 Id say 32 for most games.64 isnt really supported by a lot of games or programs.People will tell you other wise im sure.Just google problems installing games on windows 7 64bit.
youll see what I mean.
lol and before I finish posting,there they go.
google "problems installing games on windows 7 64bit" and see for yourself
I've had absolutely no issues with Winows 7 64 Bit and running old programs. Hell it even run Medieval:Total War I. Just because a game isn't labelled 64-bit, doesn't make it incompatible.
The biggest compatibility problems arise from the ever evolving graphics card/drivers, NOT the OS.
For example, I run a HD3850, however my missus has a 9800GTX. We're both Windows 7 64 bit, but she cannot play Medieval:Total War I. I can though... however this is obviously a 64 bit issue and nothing at all to do with the VGA cards eh?
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Syphon Lodian
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.12 09:43:00 -
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What's 32-bit ?
Is that something they used to run on them Atari units back when they first came out? -------------------------------------------------- |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.12 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Syphon Lodian What's 32-bit ?
Is that something they used to run on them Atari units back when they first came out?
Ahhà good old Atari TT ù now that was a machine!
àbut then, of course, there was also the "64" bit Jaguar. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lykouleon You seem mighty mad for someone not being trolled.
You seem not to understand whats going on here
I set the bait for this troll fest and 4 pages worth of idiots (not all,but most) fell for it.And there is no anger in any of my posts..just bull**** and lolz.But seeing you beg for more gives me not only the satisfaction of pwnage,but also the confirmation that you are infact a muppet,and "working as intended"
Originally by: Ascendic
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:23:56
Not the stick figure guy again
Considering I am the one posting with my main, you are clearly still the muppet
Ah,again the satisfactionFor your info,I was talking about stick cult and not you.But It seems you didnt like me calling you a muppet did you? lol.Again,working as intendedYou still mad bro?
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Gunnanmon
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.12 10:46:00 -
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64 Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 12/10/2010 11:12:37
Originally by: Rasquel I'm going to just leave this here.
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=problems+installing+games+on+windows+7+64bit&word2=problems+installing+games+on+windows+7+32bit
Oh and I did lol at how you just left this here.
Edit:oops forgot the quote lol
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Zagdul
Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.12 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Zagdul on 12/10/2010 15:52:42
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 12/10/2010 10:51:19
Originally by: Lykouleon You seem mighty mad for someone not being trolled.
You seem not to understand whats going on here
I set the bait for this troll fest and 4 pages worth of idiots (not all,but most) fell for it.And there is no anger in any of my posts..just bull**** and lolz.But seeing you beg for more gives me not only the satisfaction of pwnage,but also the confirmation that you are infact a muppet,and "working as intended"
Originally by: Ascendic
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 11/10/2010 18:23:56
Not the stick figure guy again
Considering I am the one posting with my main, you are clearly still the muppet
Ah,again the satisfactionFor your info,I was talking about stick cult and not you.But It seems you didnt like me calling you a muppet did you? lol.Again,working as intendedYou still mad bro?
Edit:By the way this thread is so yesterday.Lets find a new one
http://www.fatalascension.com/uploaded/LOL-I-TROLL-YOU.png
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.12 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Syphon Lodian What's 32-bit ?
Is that something they used to run on them Atari units back when they first came out?
The 68000. It was a thing of beauty.
Originally by: CCP Navigator Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Drachiel
Mercury LLC
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Posted - 2010.10.12 16:02:00 -
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I've been running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit for over a year now, and have never had a problem with it that compatibility mode could not solve, and even those were rare. Honestly, go 64-bit. It doesn't matter with EVE so much, though.
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knobber Jobbler
Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.12 16:39:00 -
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I used to work in a compatibity lab in a QA team for quite a few years, as well as senior QA tech and QA manager for a few different game publishers/developers so here is my educated take on 64bit OS's:
XP64 - Stable as 5000 tons of concrete. In fact the best OS i've used. I did have problems with older drives and some older software when it first came out. By older hardware I mean a joystick from 1998 and the odd sound and network card. Every game bar 1 (Rogue Trooper) worked on it. Vista 64 - Don't bother. Don't bother with Vista 32 either. Windows 7 64 - Awesome. Everything works apart from one network card (Dlink 547) I tried.
When 64 bit OS's first appeared they were lacking driver support for a few things and some software didn't work for various reasons. This was years ago. For at least the last year Windows 7 64 has been very well supported across the board and is the new standard.
There is no reason not to use it if you're hardware is relativly new or from a major brand or chip manufacturer. Occasionally you'll find something that doesn't work (wireless cards from D-Link seem to be badly supported) but other than that, there is no reason not to use it.
On the other hand, unless you are buying new hardware or you have new hardware there isn't much reason to upgrade i.e. you have a AMD XP3500, 2 GB of RAM and a X800XTX for instance. That said, you may see an improvement in performance going from Vista 32 to Windows 7 64. But if you're with XP32, with that sort of set up, its probably not worth it.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Zions Child on 12/10/2010 16:52:47 To be fair to above poster, Wireless card manufacturers have notoriously ****ty programming QA. Honestly, they couldn't care less about their drivers. I had one that showed a "This installation menu was made with blah blah blah Windows Installation Menu Trial thingy blah blah."
Also, 64-bit OS is just better. Honestly. Without even using the full 64-bit address (cuz thats apparently pricy) an AMD processor can support 4 PB of memory. Admittedly, the virtual address space can only support 65000 times as much memory as your average 32-bit processor, but w/e. EDIT: And that's because AMD was being cheap. The PAE is limited to 52 bits and the VAE to 48. END EDIT.
Also, Hell is an idiot. Possibly a troll, a bad one at that. 64-bit architecture runs perfectly fine in your average 32-bit OS, they emulate just fine. There are no issues. None. Whatsoever.
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:02:00 -
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*/Still rocking Windows 3.11 For Workgroups/*
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
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Vak'ran
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba */Still rocking Windows 3.11 For Workgroups/*
/me hugs his old 386 with Win3.1 (and Win1.0 for the lulz) under DOS 6.22
Vak'Ran is your local official non-dedicated part-time advocate of reading comprehension and proliferation of intelligence on the EVE Online Forum |
Krasnij Okjabre
Polaris Rising Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Krasnij Okjabre on 12/10/2010 17:25:01
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa I'd install a 64-bit OS except for the fact that my original Audigy 1 Platinum with 5 1/4" expansion is not compatible with 64-bit Windows. There are no drivers for it.
And I use the stuff on the front all the time for my DJ work, so it's really not an option for me yet.
Why do good hardware manufacturers always backpedal on products they've made that are awesome? (Creative, Logitech, etc.)
I had a similar issue with an Audigy card... found these worked really well. Could not get Creative drivers to work with 64 bit at all.
Kras.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:44:00 -
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64-bit basically lets you use more than just 4 gigs of ram. For a long time 4 gigs was thought to be a huge and necessary to run an operating system plus a game. However with the advent of win7 and games that take up over 2 gigs of ram by themselves(I'm looking at you crysis and bad company), larger ram sizes have become more necessary. The price of ram itself is also down significantly, newegg today has 6gb of ram here for only $130.
In short: 64 bit compatibility is only really on the driver level. 64 bit performance is really tied to ram size and driver maturity for other parts, which is getting quite good now. -------------
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.12 17:54:00 -
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Now that you know 64 bit you should get linux and start getting the most from your pc, and save several hundred dollars.
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Tal'sung
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tal''sung on 12/10/2010 21:09:33
Originally by: Cipher Jones Now that you know 64 bit you should get linux and start getting the most from your pc, and save several hundred dollars.
Yeah it's totally awesome having to type a paragraph into terminal just to install something that's not in the package manager, not being able to play 95% of games on the market is another nice bonus!
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zagdul Edited by: Zagdul on 12/10/2010 15:52:42
Originally by: HeIIfire11 Trolling removed -- Spitfire.
http://www.fatalascension.com/uploaded/LOL-I-TROLL-YOU.png
Yeah..Im sure you speak from experience.But you wish you could do it like I did.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Yeah..Im sure you speak from experience.But you wish you could do it like I did.
Confirming that Heiifireoneone is amazing troll. He troll'd all joo peeps so awsumly.
Actually, Hell, you're just technologically incompetent, while aspiring to be technologically savvy. Your inability to display true knowledge has led to you being called out on this, and you've responded with "HAHA I TROLLD JOO" and "GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT GGOALGEA EET!!!!!!!oneeleventy!!"
Honestly. We know you're an idiot thanks to your posts in this thread. No need to rub it into our faces that you're a part of the population that may or may not be one standard deviation below the average on an IQ test.
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zions Child
Originally by: HeIIfire11
Yeah..Im sure you speak from experience.But you wish you could do it like I did.
Confirming that Heiifireoneone is amazing troll. He troll'd all joo peeps so awsumly.
Actually, Hell, you're just technologically incompetent, while aspiring to be technologically savvy. Your inability to display true knowledge has led to you being called out on this, and you've responded with "HAHA I TROLLD JOO" and "GOOGLE IT GOOGLE IT GGOALGEA EET!!!!!!!oneeleventy!!"
Honestly. We know you're an idiot thanks to your posts in this thread. No need to rub it into our faces that you're a part of the population that may or may not be one standard deviation below the average on an IQ test.
Nice try,with your fail counter that is so predictable.I think you need to rethink comming out from under that rock you were hiding under.Crawl back under there until you can come up with something original.Your boring me
And thx for taking the time to post and adding to the satisfaction.
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Zions Child
Caldari Carthage Industries Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Nice try,with your fail counter that is so predictable.I think you need to rethink comming out from under that rock you were hiding under.Crawl back under there until you can come up with something original.Your boring me
And thx for taking the time to post and adding to the satisfaction.
Mmhmm, sure thing, anytime. Although I will say, leaving my C&P and OOPE rock is oh so difficult to do.
Also, the word is "coming."
Also: HOLY **** WHEN DID THE TIME FLUX THING CHANGE FROM 5 MINUTES TO TWO?!
Originally by: CCP Shadow *snip* Castration successful. Shadow.
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Snowmann
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Posted - 2010.10.12 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zions Child
Also: HOLY **** WHEN DID THE TIME FLUX THING CHANGE FROM 5 MINUTES TO TWO?!
Quite a while ago.
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