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Antihrist Pripravnik 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.10.15 00:26:00 - [31] Originally by: Deadly Morph This sucks, I bought a GTC 2 months ago for 610 mill a 60 day so I thought thats fine im ok with that still sucks seeing how i was paying 180 mill for a 30 day 2 years ago about anyways, now its closing to 800 mill 2 months later!! CCP still makes money off who ever buy the gtc, but now its just keeps going i wonder how long before players will stop playing because they play to Pay! :/ I know what you are saying because I've realized the same thing. However, try to think outside of the game. If you can't afford to pay $15 a month for a game, then you might consider finding a way to make the extra $15 a month.
Rellik B00n Lethal Death Squad	Posted - 2010.10.15 00:51:00 - [32] onwards and upwards . -hi sec lolwarrior-
Running missions	Posted - 2010.10.15 00:59:00 - [33] Q_Q im guessing that less people buying plex or selling plex on market, many are given to pakistan ( lol) winter time, chirstmas presents maybe? winter break=more people? expansion = more people?
Jennifer Drama GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.10.15 04:07:00 - [34] Originally by: CCP Adida Edited by: CCP Adida on 14/10/2010 19:56:48 Removed a post that was about a rumor that CCP had purchased GTC. Rumors or speculation of this type are not permitted on the forums. Wait...what?!? Oh and OP, them's the breaks.
Subuotah Amarr Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate	Posted - 2010.10.15 04:18:00 - [35] I blame macro-ratters. :p
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.10.15 05:41:00 - [36] Less noobs playing and buying gtc to convert for plex=less plex on market=higher demand=price increase. You understand the market now?
Erichk Knaar Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.15 06:22:00 - [37] Originally by: CCP Adida Removed a post that was about a rumor that CCP had purchased GTC. Rumors or speculation of this type are not permitted on the forums. Whoa, I think we just divided by zero.
AstarothPrime	Posted - 2010.10.15 06:42:00 - [38] If buying plex / gtc ever gets in my way of playing the game - Ill simbly cash out 15$. Only reason why I dont do that in the first place is -> because its so easy to make few hundered mil for GTC anyways. I.
Gwenol Velsa Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2010.10.15 07:11:00 - [39] Originally by: CCP Adida Edited by: CCP Adida on 14/10/2010 19:56:48 Removed a post that was about a rumor that CCP had purchased GTC. Rumors or speculation of this type are not permitted on the forums. And what part of The Rules is this a violation of?
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.10.15 07:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Gwenol Velsa Originally by: CCP Adida Edited by: CCP Adida on 14/10/2010 19:56:48 Removed a post that was about a rumor that CCP had purchased GTC. Rumors or speculation of this type are not permitted on the forums. And what part of The Rules is this a violation of? you're being trolled by ccp adida. You know ccp is not suppose to discuss such things. If not a troll, you think she would have said anything?
Terminal Insanity Minmatar Foundation	Posted - 2010.10.15 07:51:00 - [41] I think CCP just confirmed it, in their own little way.
Paknac Queltel Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2010.10.15 07:52:00 - [42] Originally by: CCP Adida Edited by: CCP Adida on 14/10/2010 19:56:48 Removed a post that was about a rumor that CCP had purchased GTC. Rumors or speculation of this type are not permitted on the forums. Is this the sound of one mod silently rebelling against the rules she has to enforce? >.> - Paknac Queltel
Johan Sabbat Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.10.15 08:02:00 - [43] Originally by: Psychotic Maniac Originally by: Gwenol Velsa Originally by: CCP Adida Edited by: CCP Adida on 14/10/2010 19:56:48 Removed a post that was about a rumor that CCP had purchased GTC. Rumors or speculation of this type are not permitted on the forums. And what part of The Rules is this a violation of? you're being trolled by ccp adida. You know ccp is not suppose to discuss such things. If not a troll, you think she would have said anything? You mean it's not a tit-bit of information cleverly disguised as a troll? --rebel rebel, party party--
Pohbis Neo T.E.C.H.	Posted - 2010.10.15 08:32:00 - [44] 1. Everybody wants to play EVE for free 2. Everybody buys PLEX 3. ??? 4. Profit!!! Or, pay the 15 bucks. If you can't afford it, you should not be spending your time grinding ISK for PLEX in the first place. You should be in the library, or writing a job application. If you can afford it but just don't want to pay for EVE. Quit, or stop whining.
Stella SGP Oresome Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.10.15 09:07:00 - [45] Edited by: Stella SGP on 15/10/2010 09:10:36 Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik GTC codes used to translate to game time for one, ISK for another. With PLEX, the middle man is running the show. Even for the people who buy thier GTC codes and sell them as PLEX ingame, the price is dictated by the middle man market group. Exactly, I never understood people who complains about it. I mean if you have trouble forking out $15 a month for a game, then you really shouldn't be playing any games at all... Get your priorities right! Paying to play is the norm, playing to pay is a bonus. Notice it's not the other way around?
Muul Udonii Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.10.15 09:19:00 - [46] Hmm, might buy me some plex then. I'm looking for a few billion isk to invest in ramping up my industrial arm; if I can get that for ú100 now, and then pay it back with profits letting me play for free for a year when PLEX prices drop; it's a win win win situation.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.10.15 11:08:00 - [47] Originally by: Cambarus Originally by: Akita T The free market is a beee-atch, isn't it ? The irony here is that the main reason for the price increase over the years is CCP going and raising the prices of GTCs. Once upon a time we had 30 and 90 day GTCs, and the 90 day ones cost about what the 60 day ones cost now, the free market has little to do with it, the production costs were just increased >_> (PS for those of you who weren't around then: The price of playin eve for a month literally went from 150mil to about 300 in under a month when they did that) Its definitely not actually. That was before I started playing, and since I have started the price of plex has risen and fallen between 290 and 400 mil. If the reason plex prices were inflating was becasue of the GTC price, the price would not be able to fluctuate like that.
Xavier Veridis Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2010.10.15 11:25:00 - [48] Price of PLEX is always going vary based on the number of people who would rather grind isk to play for free and those who pay to play (and more specifically pay for the plexes to save grinding for isk themselves) among other factor. Any increase in either group is likely to alter the price one way of the other. Ultimately if others are happy to buy up all the plex for more than you are either prepared to pay, or can afford to pay, in isk then you'll have to open your wallet and part with some real money if you want to carry on playing. If there going to be plex for remapping or other such plex based trades then those new isk sinks are also likely to push the price up, in which case market speculation ahead of incursion may already be playing its role as will any plex aid programs. But since noone has any real justification to claim cheap plex as a right I suggest you just suck it up.
Manipulator General o.0	Posted - 2010.10.15 11:30:00 - [49] Originally by: CCP Adida Edited by: CCP Adida on 14/10/2010 19:56:48 Removed a post that was about a rumor that CCP had purchased GTC. Rumors or speculation of this type are not permitted on the forums. Now that would be something, wouldn't it? 1. CCP spawns isk 2. CCP buys a load of PLEXes off market. 3. Prices of PLEXes rise. 4. More people buy GTCs to sell PLEXes on market. 5. Profit. Not a rumour, or speculation. Just me thinking aloud. ibtd.
Zia Aiz	Posted - 2010.10.15 12:06:00 - [50] Originally by: Manipulator General Originally by: CCP Adida Edited by: CCP Adida on 14/10/2010 19:56:48 Removed a post that was about a rumor that CCP had purchased GTC. Rumors or speculation of this type are not permitted on the forums. Now that would be something, wouldn't it? 1. CCP spawns isk 2. CCP buys a load of PLEXes off market. 3. Prices of PLEXes rise. 4. More people buy GTCs to sell PLEXes on market. 5. Profit. Not a rumour, or speculation. Just me thinking aloud. ibtd. Anyway about my removed post, i don't really understand why i can't speculate about this kind of thing, i feel like i live in China now.
Erdiere Minmatar Erasers inc. Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.10.15 12:14:00 - [51] Exactly what positive effects would CCP gain by removing PLEXs from market and thus driving the price upwards?
Manipulator General o.0	Posted - 2010.10.15 12:19:00 - [52] Originally by: Erdiere Exactly what positive effects would CCP gain by removing PLEXs from market and thus driving the price upwards? If the price goes up more people with extra RL cash might be inclined to buy GTCs.
xttz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.10.15 12:20:00 - [53] Originally by: Erdiere Exactly what positive effects would CCP gain by removing PLEXs from market and thus driving the price upwards? 1) People pay real money to CCP for GTCs, and list them on the market 2) CCP remove these from the market, reducing available supply 3) People now have to buy more GTC's to fulfill demand, increasing CCP revenue
Xavier Veridis Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2010.10.15 12:38:00 - [54] Originally by: xttz Originally by: Erdiere Exactly what positive effects would CCP gain by removing PLEXs from market and thus driving the price upwards? 1) People pay real money to CCP for GTCs, and list them on the market 2) CCP remove these from the market, reducing available supply 3) People now have to buy more GTC's to fulfill demand, increasing CCP revenue Or people have to pay for their game time, rather than fund if through plex. If you had a game where the developer was taking money from a player for an item and the giving that play in-game currency for that item, then it would effectively be a way for the game developer to sell in-game currency for extra cash. With plex the original design was that the whole plex system was merely a trade of game time for ISK between players and so no extra ISK was generated other than what players generate in game and so not a form of in game micropayment or real money trading.
Aylara	Posted - 2010.10.15 13:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Akita T The free market is a beee-atch, isn't it ? M8, I thought we're all grown up people who don't believe in free market fairy tales anymore Originally by: Manipulator General Now that would be something, wouldn't it? 1. CCP spawns isk 2. CCP buys a load of PLEXes off market. 3. Prices of PLEXes rise. 4. More people buy GTCs to sell PLEXes on market. 5. Profit. Not a rumour, or speculation. Just me thinking aloud. I might be wrong, but, if I remember correctly, CCP's biggest problem atm is the huge amount of ingame unused Plexes. All the things involving Plex (destroyable, plex for rewamp) have been made to reduce that number (that might cause probles some day).
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.10.15 13:43:00 - [56] I personally think it will blow up in their(CCP) face. I will not consume my isk reserves for a plex(at current prices) to keep my accts. going. Because, I only find myself logging every other week or month to que the next long skill. So, for me it would be pointless to spend $15*3=$45 a month for a game I don't even play. Maybe, I'll just come back in 18 months(when things are fixed) or give away my chars. and assests. Anyone want to buy some paperclips?
Gajoleus Gallente Solar Imperium	Posted - 2010.10.15 13:51:00 - [57] RMT are actually the key problem here. They are injecting load of isk to game, I did little google magic and for price of one GTC you can get I think around 200-400 mill extra if you buy ISK, so people buy isk. If you all remember back year or 2 back when GTC's were also coming around 800-900 mill in price CPP did mass ban of RMT's, macro miners in short the scum of eve. Prices of GTC droped 50%, why, less RMT and there was cheaper ISK on market, to people just start buying GTC for isk
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.10.15 16:15:00 - [58] ^That's not really true if you factor in the discounts eve gives for 3, 6, 12 months prepay. It works out for far less that given the rmt your cash. Best thing is you can keep all that isk you worked for to buy some new ships/mods, etc... that's if you have the cash to lay out and it's worth paying to play. atm, the way things are with the game and how f*cked it is. it's just not worth it. sick of all the nerfs and how long it takes to earn just a bit of isk to pvp with my t2 ships.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2010.10.15 17:09:00 - [59] Edited by: Washell Olivaw on 15/10/2010 17:11:08 Originally by: Gajoleus If you all remember back year or 2 back when GTC's were also coming around 800-900 mill in price CPP did mass ban of RMT's, macro miners in short the scum of eve. Prices of GTC droped 50%, why, less RMT and there was cheaper ISK on market, to people just start buying GTC for isk I do remember and those two events weren't close enough together to be related. What happened back then is what's going to happen now. Plex are rising fast, lots of people are jumping into the market buying with the intent to sell them next week at a 50 million markup, artificially inflating the price even further. One of these days the bubble is going to say 'pop'. This will leave a lot of people feeling very silly while holding 400+ million PLEX's at a market value of 250. It's a pattern us humans have repeated hundreds of times throughout history from the local pyramid schemes to the global mortgage and debt trading that got us into our current downturn. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Guilliman R Gallente Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.10.15 17:21:00 - [60] Edited by: Guilliman R on 15/10/2010 17:22:52 Originally by: Washell Olivaw One of these days the bubble is going to say 'pop'. Has Billions on standby for that day ------

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