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Riedle
Paradox Collective
Choke Point
163
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Posted - 2012.08.03 17:23:00 -
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Farewell!
How I will miss you and all the moments we have shared together over the past 4 years
Riedle |
Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.08.03 17:27:00 -
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Riedle wrote:Farewell!
How I will miss you and all the moments we have shared together over the past 4 years
Riedle
lolwut? |
Zenos Ebeth
An Eye For An Eye
AN EYE F0R AN EYE
18
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Posted - 2012.08.03 17:32:00 -
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I think he is talking about a dev who said he was going to buff t2 plates to make them worth it , not shure if it was actually implemented though. |
nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.08.03 17:44:00 -
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Zenos Ebeth wrote:I think he is talking about a dev who said he was going to buff t2 plates to make them worth it , not shure if it was actually implemented though.
not yet, it's on sisi atm |
Riedle
Paradox Collective
Choke Point
163
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Posted - 2012.08.03 17:46:00 -
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nahjustwarpin wrote:Zenos Ebeth wrote:I think he is talking about a dev who said he was going to buff t2 plates to make them worth it , not shure if it was actually implemented though. not yet, it's on sisi atm
and in the patch notes |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
307
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Posted - 2012.08.03 17:52:00 -
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I wouldn't say farewell just yet. Yes t2 plates will offer more hp. However, what are the fitting reqs? Many ships are tightly fit and adding in extra cpu/powergrid needed for a t2 plate won't be possible. |
GreenSeed
81
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Posted - 2012.08.03 18:32:00 -
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yeah, this has been know for a month or so now. lots of people rushed in and bought up all the t2 plates.
its not just the extra pg, they also add more mass. so dont get rid of those rolled plates just yet. |
chris elliot
EG CORP
Talocan United
35
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Posted - 2012.08.03 19:01:00 -
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I am foreseeing them becoming like the meta afterburners and microwarp drives. Sure t2 may be better, but you need meta 4 to make it all fit. |
Je720
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
0
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Posted - 2012.08.04 11:52:00 -
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Also do they still have increased mass penalty? If so they won't be so nice on cruisers or anything that still needs some mobility. I hope the HP of faction plates is being buffed at the same time to compensate for this (they have lower mass over T1/T2 plates). |
To mare
Advanced Technology
20
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Posted - 2012.08.04 12:59:00 -
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another boost ot buffer tank, just what we needed |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
613
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Posted - 2012.08.04 13:28:00 -
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To mare wrote:another boost ot buffer tank
If the enemy can track you better and apply better dmg to your even slower than before space cow how's this a whatever buff?
brb |
To mare
Advanced Technology
20
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Posted - 2012.08.04 14:03:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:To mare wrote:another boost ot buffer tank If the enemy can track you better and apply better dmg to your even slower than before space cow how's this a whatever buff?
first if you want speed/agility you dont armor tank, especially not buffer tank.
T2 plate will go just on BS hulls, no way you goin to fit one on a cruiser and even on BCs you will run in fitting problem and the extra mass on a BS hull will make really a small difference while another HP buff will imbalance even more the buffer tanked BS vs the active repped and between the 2 the active repping armor tank ships are much more in need of a boost than passive armor tank BS which are already at the top.
just to be clear:
a abaddon with 2 T2 plate will go 7m/s slower than with meta4
the geddon speed will drop by 12m/s with 3 plates
and agility on amarr BSs is pretty much irrilevant
the mega speed will drop by 10m/s with 2 plates and 0,2sec more align time, such a big deal |
Je720
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
Drunk 'n' Disorderly
0
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Posted - 2012.08.06 15:57:00 -
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To mare wrote:just to be clear:
a abaddon with 2 T2 plate will go 7m/s slower than with meta4
the geddon speed will drop by 12m/s with 3 plates
and agility on amarr BSs is pretty much irrilevant
the mega speed will drop by 10m/s with 2 plates and 0,2sec more align time, such a big deal
Yes, speed and agility do not matter on most BS + bigger Amarr ships because the mass difference between different types of plates is so small relative to the mass of the ship, but on BC/Cruiser hulls it is more noticeable so high meta/faction plates can be worth looking at for some ships. |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc
Elysian Empire
431
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Posted - 2012.08.06 21:07:00 -
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i wish they also buffed faction plates...
the agility/speed loss is anoying to say the least and a fair few of my T3 fits dont work with T2 plates :( |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
268
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Posted - 2012.08.06 23:02:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:i wish they also buffed faction plates...
the agility/speed loss is anoying to say the least and a fair few of my T3 fits dont work with T2 plates :(
So they are not getting buffed? Interesting since all the faction plates are reinforced steel also.
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Alara IonStorm
2899
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Posted - 2012.08.07 00:26:00 -
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The T2 800mm Plates still have pathetic stats and will probably not be used more then Meta 4 800mm Plates.
Buffer Armor Cruisers will still be flown based on if they can fit a 1600mm Plate. 
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Alara IonStorm
2899
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Posted - 2012.08.07 00:27:00 -
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Double Post.  |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
139
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Posted - 2012.08.07 01:48:00 -
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Damn, and I was all excited that I found 46 1600 RTP in my hanger in Villore.
Don't the T2 1600s take like 75 more PG? |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc
Elysian Empire
432
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Posted - 2012.08.07 02:49:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Jack Miton wrote:i wish they also buffed faction plates...
the agility/speed loss is anoying to say the least and a fair few of my T3 fits dont work with T2 plates :( So they are not getting buffed? Interesting since all the faction plates are reinforced steel also.
not 100% sure tbh but patch notes only mentioned T2 plates as far as I can tell. |
Katalci
SniggWaffe
YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
111
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Posted - 2012.08.07 06:52:00 -
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chris elliot wrote:I am foreseeing them becoming like the meta afterburners and microwarp drives. Sure t2 may be better, but you need meta 4 to make it all fit.
named MWDs are better than t2 in most cases, and you should never use a named afterburner because they are terrible. |
To mare
Advanced Technology
22
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Posted - 2012.08.07 10:01:00 -
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Hrett wrote:Damn, and I was all excited that I found 46 1600 RTP in my hanger in Villore.
Don't the T2 1600s take like 75 more PG?
the extra cpu is much more of a limit anyway
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chris elliot
EG CORP
Talocan United
39
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Posted - 2012.08.07 19:19:00 -
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Katalci wrote:chris elliot wrote:I am foreseeing them becoming like the meta afterburners and microwarp drives. Sure t2 may be better, but you need meta 4 to make it all fit. named MWDs are better than t2 in most cases, and you should never use a named afterburner because they are terrible.
My point, you missed it. |
Radius Prime
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:50:00 -
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:'( Didn't sell mine. Now useless. /me bangs head for not reading patch notes.
Bye tungstens <3 o/ |
Nikuno
Atomic Heroes
The G0dfathers
61
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Posted - 2012.08.15 12:06:00 -
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Radius Prime wrote::'( Didn't sell mine. Now useless. /me bangs head for not reading patch notes.
Bye tungstens <3 o/
Given the higher fitting requirements I don't think the choice to switch to the t2 plates will as straight forward as you're suggesting.
For 1600mm cruisers I'd expect the tungsten to remain the norm - the mass and fitting costs are terrible on such small ships;
On battlecruisers it's likely to be a mixed story with some overtanking and dropping gun size, others remaining as is - the fitting is an issue for sure, but the mass becomes less of an issue on these larger ships;
On battleships it's mainly going to be a straight conversion I'd think - the mass change is negligible ( a little over 1% difference per plate on a 100mn mwd fit) and the fitting should be something that can be accommodated without any big sacrifices elsewhere (I know my abbadon fit was a straight switch with no need to alter any other mods). |
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