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Brannor McThife Caldari Lambent Enterprises Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.17 22:30:00 - [1] Ok... wasn't sure whether to post this in Out of Pod or here... but it is related to EvE...so here it is placed. This weekend, what with my wife going to visit her parents soon (yay?) I decided I'd try out EvE on our 50" Plasma using HDMI at 1920x1080 res, in preparation of moving my gaming to the living room. Dear lord... even my wife said it look so amazingly real and just... wow. It made spinning my ships in station a joy to behold... my Tengu's gun-metal look just looked awesome and the light effects, just mind blowing... I did an exploration site, and the gas clouds, ships and generally, space itself, just looked awesome. Makes me wish there were 24" full HD plasma monitors... because the true black of a Plasma on full HD is just amazing. Seriously, if you can, get a look at EvE on a 50" full HD Plasma, you'll blow your mind. And my wife told me not to get ideas... hehe... getting a permanent 50" Plasma monitor... <drool> Kudos to the CCP art department, fine work, fine work. The only negative (and likely easily resolved) issue was the font size (normally play 1680x945) -G
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2010.10.17 22:55:00 - [2] Edited by: Mr Kidd on 17/10/2010 22:56:58 You blew something alright. /me hands Brannor some tissue to clean up the mess in his pants
Ari G0ld	Posted - 2010.10.17 22:57:00 - [3] Currently play mines on a 32"... Was a massive improvement from a standard monitor. Then tried it on a 48" Full HD, DAMN!! Damn right alot alot better. Thanks CCP :) P.s. << Ex BCA
Ascendic Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests The Makhai	Posted - 2010.10.17 22:59:00 - [4] Edited by: Ascendic on 17/10/2010 23:06:46 Edited by: Ascendic on 17/10/2010 23:00:27 Guess whats better than that? Playing on a 72" wide screen (3x24") at 5760x1080 linky
Ari G0ld	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Ascendic Edited by: Ascendic on 17/10/2010 23:00:27 Guess whats better than that? Playing on a 72" wide screen (3x24") at 5760x1080 DANG! That would be awesome.
Brannor McThife Caldari Lambent Enterprises Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:01:00 - [6] Originally by: Ascendic Guess whats better than that? Playing on a 72" wide screen (3x24") at 5760x1080 It's not the size of display that matters... you can use a wall projector if you want that. It's the colour depth and amazing graphics that you get when playing on a Plasma screen. -G
Ari G0ld	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:06:00 - [7] Try get screenshots to try show the diffrence? :P
Ascendic Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests The Makhai	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:06:00 - [8] Originally by: Ari G0ld Try get screenshots to try show the diffrence? :P updated :)
Franga NQX Innovations	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:07:00 - [9] Crappy post because there are no pics. hint
Brannor McThife Caldari Lambent Enterprises Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:09:00 - [10] Originally by: Franga Crappy post because there are no pics. hint Ok, Ok. I'll screenshot from both normal LCD (PC) display and from Plasma. I'm intrigued as to whether it truly saves what I see on the Plasma. Will do so in about 10 hours (work...) -G
Hamatitio Caldari Dead poets society The Laughing Men	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:11:00 - [11] I fail to see how anybody not playing on a plasma will be able to see the difference in the screenshots you ask for... Originally by: Forrest Gump And that's all I got to say 'bout that.
Ascendic Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests The Makhai	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:13:00 - [12] Edited by: Ascendic on 17/10/2010 23:15:07 I already post screen shots seeee Screensies
Brannor McThife Caldari Lambent Enterprises Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:14:00 - [13] Originally by: Hamatitio I fail to see how anybody not playing on a plasma will be able to see the difference in the screenshots you ask for... Bloody good point. So... just get EvE on a laptop, take an HDMI cable with you, and head off to your local electronics store and ask to try it out on a demo screen. :P Saves me time. Thanks Hamatitio. -G
Ari G0ld	Posted - 2010.10.17 23:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Ascendic Edited by: Ascendic on 17/10/2010 23:15:07 I already post screen shots seeee Screensies ****!! Impressive !!
Brannor McThife Caldari Lambent Enterprises Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.18 00:25:00 - [15] Guys... the thread is about the Picture QUALITY, not the size... i.e. Plasma looking awesome compared to LCD... and no screenshots can show this as (kindly pointed out above) you'd still be viewing it on an LCD/CRT... -G
Stick Cult	Posted - 2010.10.18 00:34:00 - [16] Originally by: Brannor McThife Guys... the thread is about the Picture QUALITY, not the size... i.e. Plasma looking awesome compared to LCD... and no screenshots can show this as (kindly pointed out above) you'd still be viewing it on an LCD/CRT... I agree, those big TV's have such awesome blacks it's... awesome. Haven't played Eve on it, but you can tell even by watching TV going from a tube to a HD TV. Screens won't show it, because it has to do with the thing showing the image, not the image itself. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
xavier69 Gallente Stark Enterprises LLC	Posted - 2010.10.18 00:44:00 - [17] i play on 37 inch on my desk go big or go home 50 inch yea you need to be sitting across the room or it would look like shat XOXOXOXO
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.10.18 00:46:00 - [18] I play mine on the most ghetto LCD allowable by law, and it still looks great. I have seen it on a high end PC with a 20 something inch very nice monitor. It looked absolutely incredible. I would imagine on a 50 inch HD plasma it would be like taking 3 hits of acid and getting a hand-job from a Swedish hooker. Or something similarly as exhilarating. Wow my spell checker corrected handjob. Imagine how cool that would look on 50 in HD. The little red squiglley would look like it was real.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.18 00:49:00 - [19] àonly problem is, Full HD is such a low resolution. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
EVEcitizen2119278	Posted - 2010.10.18 00:50:00 - [20] My 3 year old monitor has better resolution....
Brannor McThife Caldari Lambent Enterprises Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.18 01:04:00 - [21] Originally by: Tippia àonly problem is, Full HD is such a low resolution. Originally by: EVEcitizen2119278 My 3 year old monitor has better resolution.... QUALITY people... not size... not resolution... <sigh> nm... just keep on going on about size and res...and I'll just enjoy the PQ. -G
Ascendic Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests The Makhai	Posted - 2010.10.18 01:09:00 - [22] Edited by: Ascendic on 18/10/2010 01:12:38 Edited by: Ascendic on 18/10/2010 01:11:09 Originally by: Brannor McThife Originally by: Tippia àonly problem is, Full HD is such a low resolution. Originally by: EVEcitizen2119278 My 3 year old monitor has better resolution.... QUALITY people... not size... not resolution... <sigh> nm... just keep on going on about size and res...and I'll just enjoy the PQ. -G I have news for you mate. HIGHER RESOLUTION = HIGHER QUALITY. So guess what? resolution corrosponds to better quality. Get your head out of the sand you tit. You are trying to tell me that by stretching an image that I see on a single 24" screen over 50" it looks better? Same resolution over larger area = less ppi = worse quality not better. Get a grip.
Brannor McThife Caldari Lambent Enterprises Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.18 01:24:00 - [23] Originally by: Ascendic I have news for you mate. HIGHER RESOLUTION = HIGHER QUALITY. So guess what? resolution corrosponds to better quality. Get your head out of the sand you tit. You are trying to tell me that by stretching an image that I see on a single 24" screen over 50" it looks better? Same resolution over larger area = less ppi = worse quality not better. Get a grip. No, you get reading glasses. I never ones said that SIZE is what I'm pushing - yes, I mention the size of TV, but that's it. I'm saying that PLASMA technology >>>>> LCD/LED. Get it? Yes? It's the colour depth that is superior. Comprende? Same resolution, same size - Plasma looks far better than LCD. That's what I'm saying... Ai caramba. -G
Don Pellegrino Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.10.18 01:25:00 - [24] Originally by: Ascendic Edited by: Ascendic on 18/10/2010 01:12:38 Edited by: Ascendic on 18/10/2010 01:11:09 Originally by: Brannor McThife Originally by: Tippia àonly problem is, Full HD is such a low resolution. Originally by: EVEcitizen2119278 My 3 year old monitor has better resolution.... QUALITY people... not size... not resolution... <sigh> nm... just keep on going on about size and res...and I'll just enjoy the PQ. -G I have news for you mate. HIGHER RESOLUTION = HIGHER QUALITY. So guess what? resolution corrosponds to better quality. Get your head out of the sand you tit. You are trying to tell me that by stretching an image that I see on a single 24" screen over 50" it looks better? Same resolution over larger area = less ppi = worse quality not better. Get a grip. Yes, Higher Resolution = Higher Quality and more details, but the colors will still look bad if your monitor isn't very good. Brannor is talking about the color quality, not the amount of details that only resolution can improve.
Zeke Mobius	Posted - 2010.10.18 01:33:00 - [25] Lipstick on a pig is still a bug infested pig
Ascendic Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests The Makhai	Posted - 2010.10.18 02:04:00 - [26] Edited by: Ascendic on 18/10/2010 02:10:02 Originally by: Zeke Mobius Lipstick on a pig is still a bug infested pig This. You are still looking at a stretched out image. Colour doesnt mean anything. Its like taking a photo taken with a 1 MP camera and blowing it up to a 50x50. It will look like garbage. You can spend all the money you want on an expensive photo development to make it look nice but in the end its still bad quality compared to the original image. Blacks on my screen look just fine. And I sure as hell would not trade a deeper black for a terrible ppi ratio.
knobber Jobbler Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.10.18 06:02:00 - [27] Originally by: Ascendic Edited by: Ascendic on 18/10/2010 01:12:38 Edited by: Ascendic on 18/10/2010 01:11:09 Originally by: Brannor McThife Originally by: Tippia àonly problem is, Full HD is such a low resolution. Originally by: EVEcitizen2119278 My 3 year old monitor has better resolution.... QUALITY people... not size... not resolution... <sigh> nm... just keep on going on about size and res...and I'll just enjoy the PQ. -G I have news for you mate. HIGHER RESOLUTION = HIGHER QUALITY. So guess what? resolution corrosponds to better quality. Get your head out of the sand you tit. You are trying to tell me that by stretching an image that I see on a single 24" screen over 50" it looks better? Same resolution over larger area = less ppi = worse quality not better. Get a grip. size isn't everything. there are some pretty poor 24" screens available out there. I've got two very good 24 inch screens and a 50 inch plasma and most stuff looks better on the Panasonic plasma tv simply because the screen and backlight is better despite being 200 pixels smaller on one axis. the new Panasonic tvs also have some features on them which not even top end monitor have which affect lighting and colour depth. it really depends on the quality of the screen. and no lcd will look as good as a half decent plasma screen.

CCP Jericho	Posted - 2010.10.18 07:54:00 - [28] Moved from EVE General Discussion.

MAB0N	Posted - 2010.10.18 10:46:00 - [29] Brannor is right, But to appreciate what he is saying better, it is best to realise that with plasma technology, each plasma subpixel (R,G or B) emits light whereas with LCD, each subpixel is an LCD segment which blocks the light coming from the backlight to varying degrees. This means when the LCD is blocking the backlight light 100%, as in a pure black pixel, there is always some leakage. Plasma can provide perfect black, as it is not actually emitting any light, vs LCD which cant help but leak light for a black pixel. Plasma contrast is simply superior to LCD; LED backlight or not.
Elukka	Posted - 2010.10.18 10:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Ascendic Edited by: Ascendic on 18/10/2010 02:10:02You are still looking at a stretched out image. Colour doesnt mean anything. Its like taking a photo taken with a 1 MP camera and blowing it up to a 50x50. It will look like garbage. You can spend all the money you want on an expensive photo development to make it look nice but in the end its still bad quality compared to the original image. Blacks on my screen look just fine. And I sure as hell would not trade a deeper black for a terrible ppi ratio. So you're saying he is totally wrong and his eyes are lying and it doesn't really look any better.
knobber Jobbler Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.10.18 11:28:00 - [31] Edited by: knobber Jobbler on 18/10/2010 11:31:53 Sorry to say it but resolution doesn't automatically mean better quality. It just means more pixels on screen. Plenty of large cheap LCD's look terrible because they colour band or wash out. There isn't too much difference between a 1920x1200 image and a 1920x1080 image. Even on a 1080p 50 inch TV you won't see the pixels from the correct viewing distance. I've got two 32" TV's (a 720p Sony and a 1080p LG), a Benq FP241w (24 inch LCD)and a Dell 2408 WFP (24 inch LCD) both native 1920x1200, a Panasonic G20 (50 inch plasma). The Sony 32 I have has a better image at 720p than the LG does at 1080p because of the contrast and response time. My Benq 24 looks better than the Dell 24 despite using many of the same parts, again due to contrast and the blacks it can display. Its colour depth is also marginally better. My 50 inch plasma, despite being 120 pixels smaller on one axis than my 24 inch screens beats them all on blacks, contrast and general image quality. It does greys better for a start and doesn't look washed out in some colours. Its calibration settings, white balance, ability to interpolate frames and the THX settings make it just better despite being 120 pixes on one axis smaller than my 24" screens.
Something Random Gallente The Barrow Boys	Posted - 2010.10.18 12:32:00 - [32] Aside from the min/max gibber gibber gibber its ***e unless its worth more than a planet crowd. 42" plasma tried out last week for the first time... and ran into a problem, it was my ladies old comp with a NVidia 8600 driving it and it couldnt pump out the frames fast enough lol. But those frames it pumped out........... gasmic. /me hugs* /me Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm: Aint that right?
dr doooo	Posted - 2010.10.18 16:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Ascendic I have news for you mate. HIGHER RESOLUTION = HIGHER QUALITY. So guess what? resolution corrosponds to better quality. Get your head out of the sand you tit. You are trying to tell me that by stretching an image that I see on a single 24" screen over 50" it looks better? Same resolution over larger area = less ppi = worse quality not better. Get a grip. Have you actually played Eve on a decent big plasma TV? Your reasoning about screen size doesn't make any sense. If bigger is worse, why aren't you using a 14" monitor? You are not 'stretching' an image any more or less on a 50" TV compared to a 24" monitor. It's just a bigger image designed to be viewed from further away! It seems you have been suckered by marketing, and their obsession with pixels and resolutions with electronics. The OP is talking about real image quality, not marketing department bragging figures. Of course resolution is important, but it's only one part of the image quality equation. My very old digital camera (that sold for ú1500 back in it's day) still takes better photo's than my few hundred quid modern camera which has almost three times the number of pixels.
MaxxOmega Caldari Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.10.18 18:29:00 - [34] Edited by: MaxxOmega on 18/10/2010 18:33:02 Well... I have a Panasonic 50 Inch Plasma that runs at 1920 x 1080. But I still thinks EVE looks better on my 30 Inch Monitor running at 2560 x 1600. 1080 vs 1600 is a big difference. At 1600 you can see all kinds of cool little things happening in space you cant see at other resolutions. But really they both are extremely cool.. But hey it's all subjective anyway based on things like room lighting, how old you are and how good your eyes are, etc...

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