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Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.10.18 08:55:00 -
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Just a theory, feel free to debunk it:
Currently subscriber numbers are not rising as they used to.
That is good in that sense that it spares us more lag related problems,
and it helps CCP in not having to buy more new expensive hardware.
It is bad for CCP in the sense that the stream of income does not rise much.
But all companies want to have financial growth.
That is CCPs challenge.
So CCP is looking into other ways to generate financial growth.
One of those is remapping for RL cash, other sources are Dust and Vampires.
My personal opinion is CCP should concentrate more on the core - EVE with rising subscription numbers due to improved content - and take a bite in the sour apple of buying new and better hardware to deal with the new subscribers.
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2010.10.18 08:59:00 -
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My personal opinion is CCP should concentrate more on the core - EVE with rising subscription numbers due to improved content - and take a bite in the sour apple of buying new and better hardware to deal with the new subscribers.
My dear mistaken friend, companies, once they have you, never focus on the core until they start to lose the core of it's players. And by then it's usually too late. No, if what you're saying is true, then you can expect more "expansions" to entice those "potential" customers out there.
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RaTTuS
BIG
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.18 09:07:00 -
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I'd like to know where the OP gets his info from ....
it could be his crystal ball is broken.
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Khanaris Asgarth
Eternium Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.18 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Kidd
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My personal opinion is CCP should concentrate more on the core - EVE with rising subscription numbers due to improved content - and take a bite in the sour apple of buying new and better hardware to deal with the new subscribers.
My dear mistaken friend, companies, once they have you, never focus on the core until they start to lose the core of it's players. And by then it's usually too late. No, if what you're saying is true, then you can expect more "expansions" to entice those "potential" customers out there.
This. Why do you think LOTRO went freeplay with micro-transactions this year? Plus proof please OP.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.10.18 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
My personal opinion is CCP should concentrate more on the core - EVE with rising subscription numbers due to improved content - and take a bite in the sour apple of buying new and better hardware to deal with the new subscribers.
Do you know any other game company that dedicates a couple hundred developers to one and the same game for years after its release?
I think CCP is the only company doing that in the whole world. One of the biggest dev teams in the whole game industry is already working on EVE, more than ever before. And you want them to dedicate even MORE devs to it?
Besides ... nine women can't give birth to a baby in one month. You can't speed up all things by just throwing more people onto it. |
Hawk TT
Caldari
Bulgarian Experienced Crackers
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.10.18 09:57:00 -
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Actually buying more hardware would not solve the "lag" problem!
Fixing the lag requires substantial changes in the EVE core software architecture + refactoring of old client & server code.
Assigning more developers / engineers to these tasks would not help - reengineering such complicated (and vast) code base is not like digging trenches. More people mean more complexity and more bugs...
The above mentioned changes have to be done very carefully and "on the fly", because EVE is a persitent virtual world running 23x7, and any substantial changes could severely harm the operations and stability of the game.
Remember the Tyranis 1.1? It was all about refactoring the backend of EVE User Interface - it was not supposed to bring anything visible on the surface right away, but just to open possibilities for future UI enhacements. Actually, this patch brought in tons of bugs, caused by the architectural changes and the refactoring in the background, but also old bugs that were well-hidden. This is normal, especially for such complicated software. There is no bug-free software.
Imagine the changes required for fixing the lag - they would be a magnitude more complicated and risk is that EVE would experience days of downtime if they are not very, very well thought out and planned, BY A SMALL, BUT BEST-OF-BREED DEV TEAM.
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Nicholas Barker
SEXUAL TYRANNOSAURUSES
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Posted - 2010.10.18 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Do you know any other game company that dedicates a couple hundred developers to one and the same game for years after its release?
You know what MMOs are right?
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Pesky LaRue
The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.10.18 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
Currently subscriber numbers are not rising as they used to.
you base this whole "hypothesis" on this fact - can you back this up, or did you just pull it straight from your dog's ass?
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.10.18 14:33:00 -
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Just a theory, feel free to debunk it:
Currently subscriber numbers are not rising as they used to.
Not from the subscriber numbers I've seen, seems to be continually rising, perhaps there is a bit of a hiccup but overall more people continue to subscribe or run additional accounts.
That is good in that sense that it spares us more lag related problems,
and it helps CCP in not having to buy more new expensive hardware.
Not true at all hardware isn't the sole problem with lag nor would CCP waste money tossing more hardware on what is pretty obviously an issue with SW as well.
It is bad for CCP in the sense that the stream of income does not rise much.
Not true, but in general income never rises enough for anyone.
But all companies want to have financial growth.
That is CCPs challenge.
That and developing the technology, products, etc for the future of their company. It makes little sense to do one thing and only one thing when you have the 'talent' and resources to do more and diversify your products thereby gaining more of the market share.
So CCP is looking into other ways to generate financial growth.
One of those is remapping for RL cash, other sources are Dust and Vampires.
True enough but you leave out the issue that EVE is old and likely takes more time/effort/cost to make updates/patches/expansions/etc than if they simply made a new product without dealing with code/technology where the people who made it are gone etc.
My personal opinion is CCP should concentrate more on the core - EVE with rising subscription numbers due to improved content - and take a bite in the sour apple of buying new and better hardware to deal with the new subscribers.
I'd agree but it isn't going to happen EVE is the cash cow, there comes a point where you optimize the effort to maintain the flow from the cow then either you take the money home and sleep on it, spend it, or reinvest it to make more money.
Also the data doesn't support that polished quality sells better than new content.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.18 14:43:00 -
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Well, according to the 30+ page CSM thread on that other forum, it seems like CCP had considerably less sinister MT plans than one might think.
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.10.18 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS
I'd like to know where the OP gets his info from ....
it could be his crystal ball is broken.
Note, his avatar is looking down. Almost as to say, "damn" whilst viewing its shattered remains.
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V'hellu
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Posted - 2010.10.18 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
Just a theory, feel free to debunk it:
Currently subscriber numbers are not rising as they used to.
Where do people find this information? How do you know that subscriber numbers are not rising?
Note: Looking in noob systems to see how many new characters per day there are isn't an accurate way to find out how many new subscribers there are.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.10.18 16:41:00 -
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Looking at Eve-offline, which is a third-party site run by Chribba, there has been a slight upgoing trend for the last year, except for the last three months, which isn't strange considering that this was during the late summer.
It normally climbs again during the winter.
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Great story but you probably want this in CAOD so feel free to post there with your main.
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Pesky LaRue
The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.10.18 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Illwill Bill
Looking at Eve-offline, which is a third-party site run by Chribba, there has been a slight upgoing trend for the last year, except for the last three months, which isn't strange considering that this was during the late summer.
It normally climbs again during the winter.
Shhh, logic and reason? What use are THEY?
GET THE PITCHFORKS AND MEET ME AT CCP'S HQ IN AN HOUR!
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Snowmann
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Posted - 2010.10.18 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue
GET THE PITCHFORKS AND MEET ME AT CCP'S HQ IN AN HOUR!
I got the tar, someone grab some feathers! 
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T'san Manaan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.19 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: Snowmann
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
GET THE PITCHFORKS AND MEET ME AT CCP'S HQ IN AN HOUR!
I got the tar, someone grab some feathers!
I got some feathers.... Don't ask.
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