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Bormegil
Rei Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.10.02 04:42:00 -
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Was going nicely until an unexpected reinforcement group of three BSs spawned in the third pocket and popped my Noctis before she could warp out. Now on my fourth in a week... and with it went any profit from the mission itself. Other than that, it's definitely one that I'll add to my list of acceptable missions. Though for lower-skilled characters like me it's a bit on the difficult side in comparison to the average level 4.
In the meantime, I'm starting to wonder if I should just stockpile a half dozen or so fitted Noctis somewhere...
Oh, as for loot -- I scooped up a cargo can with a basic implant somewhere. Otherwise it was more or less nonexistent for me. Though the salvage wasn't bad. |
Myrin Shylla
Furor Arma Ministrat
REN0VATI0
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Posted - 2011.10.07 08:51:00 -
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Did the mission four times with my main character (Tengu HML fit), each time making sure to come back to each pocket a few times until I was pretty sure I had killed every possible respawn (which do seem pretty random).
Net result : 48m in bounties each time.
And I definitely found ships from all 4 factions each time, no Sanshas though, ever. |
Lady Aja
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Posted - 2011.10.07 09:37:00 -
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not sure if anyone has noticed. but had me a implant drop from scarlet. +4 charisma |
0lesya
Inglourious. Basterds.
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Posted - 2011.10.08 01:00:00 -
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Bormegil wrote:In the meantime, I'm starting to wonder if I should just stockpile a half dozen or so fitted Noctis somewhere...
Why don't you just bookmark a wreck in each pocket, finish the mission, turn the mission in and then go to salvaging with your noctis? Should save you a lot of trouble... |
Greykemp
G Tech Industries
The Gallentean Business Authority
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Posted - 2011.10.08 04:48:00 -
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I really love this mission. The only thing that would make it better would be if the spawns were a bit more ship random. i.e. make it impossible/difficult to have a mission survival guide to this. You are kind of foolish to run L4's without looking at the survival guide but frankly, I'd rather there WAS NOT a survival guide. It's all supposed to be a surpise to the Pilot, right?
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Yoshite McLulzypants
People called Romanes they go the house
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Posted - 2011.10.10 13:11:00 -
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Had this the other day for first time. Was a mix of core, corpus, and mercenaries. Lots of battleships, good bounties, good loot, max LP payout. Soloed it in my lolfit dominix by unleashing OGREGEDDON and CURATOROK on everything. |
BigKingNasty
Clearly Compensating
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Posted - 2011.10.10 15:04:00 -
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I ran this mission a couple days ago. Mixed bag of npcs, i had every faction spawn for me. One thing i noticed is that when i ran out of missles (warped in to start without very many) in the second room and warped out, all the npcs respawned. Needless to say i tried this multiple times, and lo and behold it worked. I made about 40 million in bounties, and another 30ish in loot/salvage. A very very profitable missions, with no "hidden" triggers (except when you kill the last ship of each group, then another group spawns). If you get this mission then congrats on a big pay off.  |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.10.10 16:47:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:First, a shout-out to the CCP PvE crew (Team Commie Pinkos?) GÇö thank you for this mission, it's entertaining of itself and I welcome the novelty of having new mission to run  The first gate is locked until (a) all NPCs are dead and (b) someone with the key unlocks it. The remaining gates are locked until all the NPCs are dead. The only "blitz" for this mission is to kill the target NPC in the last room and leave. But then you leave those juicy 1M+ ISK battleships GÇö being Gallente, you get to blow most of them up long before they get to shoot you, so it's basically free ISK. Some of the salvage from this mission is attractive too. Watch out for the many different range that NPCs will maintain. Angel Cartel of course like short-range attacks, some of the Serpentis will get in close to use blasters, others will stay at 80-100km sniping with rails, and there are a couple of tackle frigates.
ONLY the first gate is locked. I completed the mission in 307 seconds yesterday. I had the key from the first time I completed it.
I did not even make it to the 4th room, I alpha'd her in 2 volleys in the third room on her way to the gate.
Great mission to rush. 15 mil in <6 minutes.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
decaneos
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.17 22:39:00 -
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can confirm that the scarlet station contains nothing of value so dont waste time trying to blow it up.
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Psychophantic
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Posted - 2011.10.18 01:50:00 -
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Be careful of spawns if you've got a salvage alt tagging behind.
Alpha scarlet in third room and she'll drop an implant. |
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Dilligafmofo
Sandman Plc
Laika.
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:55:00 -
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I have had this mission 3 times so far. Each time I have managed to pop the named rat before she enters the final room. Each time she dropped a can with a +3 implant.
Does this implant drop each time she is killed or just because I have killed her before she warped to the final room?
( do I get a +4 if I can pop her in the 1st room?  )
Thanks |
Viktor von Steiner
Industrial Solution
Shadow of Honor
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:53:00 -
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Sounds like the mission designers found a good way to randomise the mission so it doesn't end up being the same old everytime you run it? |
Fozzy Dorsai
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:59:00 -
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I spent the last week farming this mission. I didn't take comprehensive notes as I was spending most of the time watching the baseball playoffs. Anyway, here's my impression:
I used a Scorpion Navy Issue and overtanked it with Mag and Heat amps and an invul. Even when aggroing entire rooms I don't think my shields went to below about 98% (95 if I didn't circle the gate). My first time through I bookmarked each room. Doing that allowed my combat ship and Noctis to go directly to any room I wanted once I made it through room one each day. As I was farming and not always available to play, I just did whatever rooms I could kill and salvage and then came back later in the day to kill/salvage more. As long as you leave Scarlet alive, the mission will spawn again on the daily reset.
Each day, I got between 30-35M ISK in bounties (I only got to get the 5M bounty on Scarlet on the last day). Salvage was okay, depending on what spawns I got, and loot was poor (since I was letting Scarlet live, I didn't see the implant drop. With Scarlet still alive I couldn't salvage the last room. Even with a tank-fitted Noctis, I was getting hammered pretty hard by her. If I was bored, I could come back with SNI salvage fit, but it wasn't worth the effort. Heck, not looting or salvaging at all doesn't really affect ISK% that much in this one.
I found that if I went through all the rooms, then came back around once, I was able to clear all the spawns for my Noctis. For me, either room one or two would have a delayed spawn. The third always had a delayed one. The last room had many spawns, but I didn't see any of them delayed.
If you farm and bookmark like I did, if you do run into a delayed spawn with your salvager, just swap ships, go directly to the toom to kill it, and salavage again. Note that you do not have to use the gates...just go directly to your bookmark.
I experienced Bloods, Gurista/Serps, and Angels. So I just kept a few thousand of each missile type in the hold and swapped out as needed. As there just aren't that many frigates, I just kept hobs/hammers in the drone bay rather than worrying about Warriors for the Angels.
In the end, a great mission to farm it a heavy tanked missile ship while cooking dinner, watching TV, working on a spreadsheet, or whatever. One week, about 250M in bounties, loot, & salvage. |
Bifordus Maximus
MissoCorp
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Posted - 2011.10.20 17:39:00 -
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I did this mission about 3 times. On the third time the Serpentis spawned at the gate. just before I killed the last few NPCS I warped in my Salvage Alt. The Serpentis Dissapeared then Angels warped in. Not sure if it was a bug or not but it was a nice surprise. Mission can be easily done with a Mach and a CNR if anyone is wierd like me.  |
Zeb Rain
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.20 23:30:00 -
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just got this mish and im wondering if its possible to do it in a Gila ... i have finished most level 4s using my trusty Ogre IIs but dont want to commit if my lovely cruiser is gona get WTFPWND. Im training Domi skills atm but dont have any armour tank skills yet so stuck with only a Gila as a mission ship.
Thanks for any help |
cyndrogen
Night's Shadows
TriMark Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.30 11:11:00 -
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Has anyone figured out if there is a limit to the number of spawns? I tried warping away came back and sure enough, a new spawn appeared but tried this again and nothing....
any ideas?
or maybe it's random I can't tell. |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:51:00 -
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Ran this yesterday. Had to warpout midway due to having the wrong tank setup to handle Blooders. Came back and the Blooders were gone in the second room and replaced with Guristas.
Interesting mission, bit of a ***** if you're a newer player but otherwise it's definately one of the more challenging L4's. |
Th3 Ladyship
Washi International
Tricell Coalition
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Posted - 2011.11.30 15:55:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Is it entirely impossible for people to do missions without their hands being held?
Thanks for the help. As far as this specific mission goes, its crazy and often respawns randomly. But you dont need anyones help, so why even join the discussion?
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Yves Nat
i Gufi
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Posted - 2011.11.30 16:54:00 -
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I've gotten this twice, and the difference between the two has been interesting. It does take a strong omnitank and multiple ammo types in general:
First time, did it in a Loki, which tanked with ease but took some time in the last room. Faced angels at the opening gate, Bloods in the first room, Serpentis in the second and Angels, Serpentis and Blood spawns in the last room. If make any move on Scarlett in the first room, she insta-warps. Never tried to target her in the second. After she falls in the final room, the mission is done but there seems to be 3-4 battleship spawns and you can collect bounties on those. There is also a spawn in the second room.
Second time, took my Vargur. Serpentis at the gate, then Bloods, then Serpentis, then Guristas and Serpentis in the final room. Got ultra-jammed by two Nullifiers and actually had to warp out to touch out my armor. When I returned to the first gate, there was a new Angel spawn! That was interesting, but I don't know if my return triggered it or if it is timed.
Can confirm that Scarlett's station drops nothing and takes a LOT of ammo. |
Fozzy Dorsai
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:41:00 -
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Just a few more notes:
Guristas and Serps always show up. Bloods and Angels fill in the gaps. About 90% of the time the Guristas jam (sometimes the cruisers, sometimes the BSs, sometimes both). So when loading up ammo bring Kinetic, EM, and Explosive types, go a little heavier with the Kinetic since more Guristas and Serps show up, and definitely load in Kinetic FoF for what can be rather long jamming cycles.
If farming, be very careful with your salvage ship. I've be absolutely sure that all the spawns were over and then 10-20 seconds after warping in with my Noctis, I get a spawn. You'll have enough time to warp out before getting blown up...but not if you stepped away or get hung up on a gate or something. As this one doesn't tend to drop a lot of good salvage or loot (I'd call it average), you can always skip this step.
Still, a great mission to farm. Having BS killing ammo and drones definitely help on this one. My CNR completes the mission about 20% faster than my Tengu. |
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drdxie
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.30 19:34:00 -
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Zeb Rain wrote:just got this mish and im wondering if its possible to do it in a Gila ... i have finished most level 4s using my trusty Ogre IIs but dont want to commit if my lovely cruiser is gona get WTFPWND. Im training Domi skills atm but dont have any armour tank skills yet so stuck with only a Gila as a mission ship.
Thanks for any help
I actually switched from my Domi to my Gila for this. it is easier to omni tank a shield tank. Of the top of my head I had a passive omni tank of just over 400. I had no problems. I did miss my 2x omni's in the mids, didn't realise just how big a difference they made. |
Ooda
London Elektricity
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Posted - 2011.12.25 23:55:00 -
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Anyone had this mission in Amarr space?
I'm doing a lot of missions , but never got that one :(
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex
Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.12.26 03:35:00 -
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I have had this mission several times from a L4 security agent in Aphend. |
Fozzy Dorsai
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.26 19:43:00 -
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Ooda wrote:Anyone had this mission in Amarr space?
I'm doing a lot of missions , but never got that one :(
I only mission in Amarr space and have gotten the mission a couple dozen times from 6 different agents. So, yes. |
Muammar al-Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.26 19:58:00 -
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Is it even doable in a laser boat? Bad memories of sitting in Angel Extravaganza for hours, slowly chipping away their health... |
Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.26 20:54:00 -
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The npcs are random.
So there can be jamming, sensor dampening, etc.
Omni-tank is best and if you're using projectiles and/or missiles, bring a little bit of every damage type and change depending on what you're fighting.
The dps isn't a whole lot, but if you fit to counter every possible thing they might throw at you, your tank can break if you don't know what to prioritize. It's a fun mission and can net you a lot of isk if you know what you're doing.
I can complete this mission using a maelstrom with 1400mm t2 artillery with an omni-tank that's not cap stable at all, for what it's worth. I also fit a sensor booster to help with dampening and one ECCM in a mid slot and one in a low replacing a tracking enhancer.
It's definitely not a mission for low sp pilots.
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Ooda
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.27 02:13:00 -
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Thanks a lot for info about amarr space. Seems like I just got unlucky :/
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.27 13:10:00 -
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I had < 7mil SP when I did it. And the rewards were a lot higher back then. Weird part was when I came back in a noctis after the mission had green flagged Scarlet and her goons spawned in the second room. Needless to say my poor noc got popped and I petitioned it like a ****** when I should've been farming that s*** all day long. |
Firestorm Delta
Wiki Industrialists
Wiki Conglomerates
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Posted - 2011.12.27 17:29:00 -
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Sexy Moped wrote:I ran this yesterday in a gang of three. You come across different types of NPC's so it's best to fit an omni tank and in the second pocket there is heavy ECM, it's also good to supply yourself with missiles or similar with different types of resist damage. The trigger will be found at every pocket but you cannot destroy it until the fourth and final pocket as it warps out before you can kill it (which is also the trigger).
I did not run into any of the bug problems reported a while back and mission completed with no problems either.
Loot and bounties are quite good, comparable to Guristas Extraveganza as Orlacc stated.
Not sure if someone said this but it is possible to kill the trigger ship in the third pocket, and if you can I suggest doing so as she drops a decent implant if you kill her then.
Also this is an easy mission to farm isk because of the respawns in some spots. Although bringing friends along can make it tougher due to possibility of spawning more ships. |
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.29 00:43:00 -
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Muammar al-Amarr wrote:Is it even doable in a laser boat? Bad memories of sitting in Angel Extravaganza for hours, slowly chipping away their health...
the gurista room/respawns were a pain i recall. sat in a torp golem prema jammed for 25 min slowly trying to send in drones when i had a breif lock. remember thinking eccm or fof cruiser cnr would do a beter job. |
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