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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:16:00 -
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This change is GREAT! Finally I can hate on Amarr and deny their applications AND IT WILL HAVE MEANING. |
Xervish Krin
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
31
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:35:00 -
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Sweet Jesus, now people will just use show info instead of google to find out what a skill does.
Heart of Eve ruined, unsubbing forever. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
459
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:37:00 -
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Xervish Krin wrote:Sweet Jesus, now people will just use show info instead of google to find out what a skill does.
Heart of Eve ruined, unsubbing forever.
Yes it is truly evil, at this rate we wont have to use as many spreadsheets or other web sites soon.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
73
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Posted - 2012.08.08 11:41:00 -
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Love to see the new change. |
Biomeehanika
New Eden Trade Union
Genesis Invictus
0
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:07:00 -
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yay lazy eve generation because its far to much effort to check modules for skill requirements??!!! does this mean prequisites will be removed from modules since we don't need them now? |
Takeshi Yamato
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
280
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:14:00 -
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Good improvement of the UI, people who complain about this should have their posting rights revoked.
An analysis: fixing active tanking in a logical manner:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1693846 |
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CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
717
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:34:00 -
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As the programmer responsible for this I should chime in:
You're going to hate me and my entire Player Experience team, Team Pony Express, sooo much when we are done with things!
That is all.
P.S. Go Go Magic Pony Express!
@CCP_PrismX
EVE Database Developer and Expert Ranter |
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Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
195
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:35:00 -
[68] - Quote
Ohhhh the trend that all changes = dumb down game, welcome to the dumb down train ! |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
195
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Posted - 2012.08.08 12:36:00 -
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CCP Prism X wrote:As the programmer responsible for this I should chime in:
You're going to hate me and my entire Player Experience team, Team Pony Express, sooo much when we are done with things!
That is all.
P.S. Go Go Magic Pony Express!
I hope he (and those like him) hate it so much they would leave the game. Players who think having fun equals banging head against the wall are a detriment to game development. |
Murashu
Phoibe Enterprises
51
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:30:00 -
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I don't see how this is dumbing anything down. They took something useful from EVEMON/EFT and put into the game.
Now if they would only add an option to always show the date... |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries
Epsilon Fleet
44
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Posted - 2012.08.08 14:59:00 -
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some people want eve in command prompt form, I swear. |
Forum Harlot
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:00:00 -
[72] - Quote
Making things more practical and intuitive =/= "dumbing it down". Get off your high horse. |
March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion
Red Alliance
240
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Posted - 2012.08.08 15:00:00 -
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Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp Quote:
Skill Unlocks
See what modules and ships are unlocked by various skills.
http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63110/1/Skill_unlocks.pngI don't see this as being new player friendly, I see it as treating new players like morons who can't do any research. Was showing info on a module you wanted to use to see what skills you needed too complicated? EDIT: Also we appear to be dumbing down corp management Quote:
Skills
Ethnic Relations skill changed into Diplomatic Relations and theold effect is replaced by a new one that decreases cost to hire allies in war.
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you need to love and respect yourself a little.... noone really tries to hurt you. trust me! 
kudos to CCP for making such nice little things  |
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.08.09 07:38:00 -
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While ability of doing research is a good and respectable thing, I cannot see why it's a bad thing to make it less time-consuming. Some people believe that hardships and doing everything in a hard way will make a better person out of everyone, but for some reason it never works. So, maybe we'll just stop being jealous of players who start playing these days and who have things like nice tutorials and better interface (like in this particular example)?
Being new player myself, I was doing some research on EVE history and I don't feel bad for coming so late. I can't imagine playing the game in such an "obvious beta" state EVE was in till like Incursion update (and in minor aspects, still is, but it seems to be much better now). |
Max G Force
State War Academy
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.08.09 07:41:00 -
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CCP Prism X wrote:As the programmer responsible for this I should chime in:
You're going to hate me and my entire Player Experience team, Team Pony Express, sooo much when we are done with things!
That is all.
P.S. Go Go Magic Pony Express!
Does this mean EVE is turning into My Little Pony in space? |
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
Unified Church of the Unobligated
546
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Posted - 2012.08.09 08:01:00 -
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I'm all for making the game more intuitive and useful for people to help them climb that learning cliff. I loved EveHQ when it first came out as it showed me what was dependent on each skill and EVEmon did the same, showing you what each level of a skill unlocked.
I don't think anyone claimed those 3rd party apps were dumbing the game down and if they did they weren't saying so when I started playing. Why should it be different if that information is available in the game itself?
Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method
Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
1028
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Posted - 2012.08.09 08:03:00 -
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lol
This is simply a great usability improvement and should have been in from the beginning.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
Max G Force
State War Academy
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.08.09 08:07:00 -
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Virgil Travis wrote:I'm all for making the game more intuitive and useful for people to help them climb that learning cliff. I loved EveHQ when it first came out as it showed me what was dependent on each skill and EVEmon did the same, showing you what each level of a skill unlocked.
I don't think anyone claimed those 3rd party apps were dumbing the game down and if they did they weren't saying so when I started playing. Why should it be different if that information is available in the game itself?
I actually have said in the past that those 3rd party apps were making the game easier. I don't use those apps if you're wondering.
That's part of what happened to WoW, 3rd party apps were added to the game over the years which added to the dumbing down of the game. |
Jonni Favorite
Sundown Logistics
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
133
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Posted - 2012.08.09 12:09:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Adalynne Rohks wrote:
Have you made a single post in the last 2 weeks, where you haven't been crying about something?
I know right? Even his ava pic conveys a sense of him always being right, being whiny when he's not, and looks down to pretty much anyone regardless. The wrinkles in his face have burned in a look of perpetual disapproval and disdain for everyone and everything.
Some people are just perpetually constipated. The only thing dumb here is this thread. OP should feel bad for starting it! |
Tuch Mei
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.08.09 12:11:00 -
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Hey OP, I bet you're the life and soul of all the parties. |
Lexmana
671
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Posted - 2012.08.09 12:18:00 -
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So OP, having second thoughts? |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1703
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Posted - 2012.08.09 13:33:00 -
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Making information readily available is not dumbing down the game.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
87
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:02:00 -
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Im totaly confused by this line of thinking. Easier access to important information that helps you make smarter decesion now makes anyone using such an interface an idiot? Really? Thats the briliant thought we are having for the day?
Why not reall go backwards ... lets get rid of the ability to use a mouse and force people to use keyboard shortcuts to play.. or better yet... how about just a command line ... Yeah.. that will make us all smarter! Get on it devs!
Seriously OP, you need to invent a time machine and go back to the good old DOS days! |
Ione Hawke
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:06:00 -
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This doesn't change gameplay in anyway. It just presents information that is already available in a better way. |
Cpt Roghie
Sabotage Incorporated
Executive Outcomes
50
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Posted - 2012.08.09 14:06:00 -
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Kryss Darkdust wrote:Im totaly confused by this line of thinking. Easier access to important information that helps you make smarter decesion now makes anyone using such an interface an idiot? Really? Thats the briliant thought we are having for the day?
Why not reall go backwards ... lets get rid of the ability to use a mouse and force people to use keyboard shortcuts to play.. or better yet... how about just a command line ... Yeah.. that will make us all smarter! Get on it devs!
Seriously OP, you need to invent a time machine and go back to the good old DOS days!
OP is running out of things to complain about.
Zzzzzzzz.
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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
282
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Posted - 2012.08.09 15:09:00 -
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Kult Altol wrote:some people want eve in command prompt form, I swear.
EVEZORK 7.43.404773
You are in your Tornado, in an asteroid belt.
System Security = 0.5
A Hulk is 25 km away mining Omber.
# activate passive targeter
Passive targeter activated.
# lock hulk
[5 seconds...4..3...2...1...] Hulk locked.
# scan hulk
Hulk fit:
Mining Laser II x3
Cargohold Expander I x1
# kill hulk with 1400
BOOM! Your group of 1400mm Gallium Cannons exterminate the Hulk in one shot. It explodes with a blinding flash of light, leaving behind a small pod.
You are now flagged as a criminal and your security status has been lowered.
# target pod
[12 seconds...11...10...9...]
CONCORD has arrived. Your targeting systems are jammed.
CONCORD fires on your Tornado.
Shield: 5% Armour: 93% Structure: 100%
# warp out
CONCORD has warp scrambled you, you cannot escape.
CONCORD fires again.
Shield: 0% Armour: 0% Structure: 63%
Black smoke is billowing from your now heavily damaged Tornado.
# wait
CONCORD destroys your Tornado with the next shot.
*** You have died ***
You are in a pod, in an asteroid belt.
There is another pod 25 km away.
# dock
Which station do you wish to dock in?
# dock in nearest station
Your pod has docked in the station.
Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
The Irukandji
574
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Posted - 2012.08.09 20:20:00 -
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Palovana wrote:Kult Altol wrote:some people want eve in command prompt form, I swear. EVEZORK 7.43.404773 You are in your Tornado, in an asteroid belt. System Security = 0.5 A Hulk is 25 km away mining Omber. # activate passive targeter Passive targeter activated. [snip] *** You have died *** You are in a pod, in an asteroid belt. There is another pod 25 km away. # dock Which station do you wish to dock in? # dock in nearest station Your pod has docked in the station.
Actually that sounds pretty cool. Think I might code it...just for laughs. |
LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT
Shadowfire Enterprises
Rura-Penthe
2
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Posted - 2012.08.09 20:37:00 -
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Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:Denidil wrote:Yes, because putting essential information about the game into the in game UI is dumbing down eve. just like when they started having 0.0 show truesec.
Give me all your stuff OP. I've played since 2007. That info is not essential.
Maybe you should make your own game. Make it as counterintuitive as possible and never improve anything. I would be willing to bet that you find it a very lonely place. |
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