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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2010.10.20 14:23:00 -
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A fifth optional patch for Tyrannis 1.1 will be deployed during downtime on Thursday, October 21 which will fix several issues reported to us following the release of Tyrannis 1.1. While the patch is optional, we would encourage everyone to apply the update to ensure your gameplay is improved. A full list of updated patch notes can be found here.
The reason for deploying an optional patch is that these updates contain UI core fixes which are client-only changes in python. This process is much quicker to prepare, test and execute and allows us to prepare a patch much faster than usual. The EVE Online client remains usable whether an optional patch is applied or not.
Following downtime you will see a pop up box once the client is launched informing you that a patch is available and if you want to install. If you click 'Yes' then the patch will be applied and then you can log into Tranquility. If you choose 'No' you will log in to Tranquility directly but none of the fixes will be applied. If you clicked 'No' in error you can still apply the patch by going to the ESC menu, General Settings and apply the patch from the 'Install' button there.
Spitfire
Community Representative
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2010.10.20 14:43:00 -
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i'll just wait til the 9th optional patch and get it all then
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Steijn
Minmatar
Quay Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.20 15:36:00 -
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Does clicking 'no' remove the 4th patch?
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Wengole
Red Sky Morning
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Posted - 2010.10.20 15:51:00 -
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A memory leak in text editing fields has been identified and plugged.
This is good, noticed this the other day when sending an evemail
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.20 16:06:00 -
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Come on CCP...finally get it right ffs!
Syn Callibri
Commander - Fleet Ops [21EL]
Keeper of the Blood Pact
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MissBehaving
Caldari
The Resident Haunting
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.10.20 16:09:00 -
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Seriously patch number 5 ? Did you get screwed into drawing the last straw? Im with the othere guy maybe when patch 20 - something hits you guys might be done .
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.20 16:45:00 -
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"A memory leak in text editing fields has been identified and plugged."
So does this fix the Copy and Paste and other text editing bugs?
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Alison McCarty
Gallente
Ancient Spirits
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.20 16:55:00 -
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Please fix the mail bug its not possible to send any email using the ingame system anymore.
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Devide Zero
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Posted - 2010.10.20 17:15:00 -
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yeah, that copy/paste madness 
hope you guy get that nailed down propper
many thanks CCP for continuing to make this a great game to..... LIVE!
Cheers!
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.10.20 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Steijn
Does clicking 'no' remove the 4th patch?
In the past this is how they do it, they won't let people run patch 1,2,3, etc if they put a new cumulative patch up, either you take the new one or go back to unpatched tyrannis whatever.
--Submit your bug reports via mental telepathy this will streamline CCP ignoring them.-- |
Steijn
Minmatar
Quay Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.20 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bhattran
Originally by: Steijn
Does clicking 'no' remove the 4th patch?
In the past this is how they do it, they won't let people run patch 1,2,3, etc if they put a new cumulative patch up, either you take the new one or go back to unpatched tyrannis whatever.
I know, im just surprised that in their infinite wisdom they have failed to mention wether this is the case or not.
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CCP Bella Bee
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Posted - 2010.10.20 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Steijn
Originally by: Bhattran
Originally by: Steijn
Does clicking 'no' remove the 4th patch?
In the past this is how they do it, they won't let people run patch 1,2,3, etc if they put a new cumulative patch up, either you take the new one or go back to unpatched tyrannis whatever.
I know, im just surprised that in their infinite wisdom they have failed to mention wether this is the case or not.
Yes, this is still the case and will continue to be so. These are really incremental updates rather than separate optional patches. The reason we're doing so many of them is because we want to get the fixes out as soon as they are ready and tested.
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Veilag
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Posted - 2010.10.20 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
tested.
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Dark Zebra
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Posted - 2010.10.20 20:01:00 -
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are you going to fix this issue anytime soon?
clicking on mod results in empty mod slots showing up and user is unable to select any mods til one has been moved to a different slot
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.20 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Zendoren on 20/10/2010 21:30:31
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Steijn
Originally by: Bhattran
Originally by: Steijn
Does clicking 'no' remove the 4th patch?
In the past this is how they do it, they won't let people run patch 1,2,3, etc if they put a new cumulative patch up, either you take the new one or go back to unpatched tyrannis whatever.
I know, im just surprised that in their infinite wisdom they have failed to mention wether this is the case or not.
Yes, this is still the case and will continue to be so. These are really incremental updates rather than separate optional patches. The reason we're doing so many of them is because we want to get the fixes out as soon as they are ready and tested.
So let me get this straight, these updates/micropatches will be incorporated when the bigger Major patch is released and CCP is just giving us the option patch now to fix the issues ASAP? If so, will we have the option to uninstall once they are incorporated into the major patch/expansion?
Translated: We can have pie now and not latter, if we so choose!?!?
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CCP Bella Bee
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Posted - 2010.10.20 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zendoren
Edited by: Zendoren on 20/10/2010 21:30:31
So let me get this straight, these updates/micropatches will be incorporated when the bigger Major patch is released and CCP is just giving us the option patch now to fix the issues ASAP? If so, will we have the option to uninstall once they are incorporated into the major patch/expansion?
Translated: We can have pie now and not latter, if we so choose!?!?
Yes, all the updates will be included when a patch is released, and the latest optional update at that time will become obsolete.
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Jelstar
Caldari
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.20 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Following downtime you will see a pop up box once the client is launched informing you that a patch is available and if you want to install. If you click 'Yes' then the patch will be applied and then you can log into Tranquility. If you choose 'No' you will log in to Tranquility directly but none of the fixes will be applied. If you clicked 'No' in error you can still apply the patch by going to the ESC menu, General Settings and apply the patch from the 'Install' button there.
I do not have an "install" button in the General Settings tab when I hit esc.
How should I go about applying this optional patch?
Thank you!
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JamesAlex
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Posted - 2010.10.20 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Zendoren
Edited by: Zendoren on 20/10/2010 21:30:31
So let me get this straight, these updates/micropatches will be incorporated when the bigger Major patch is released and CCP is just giving us the option patch now to fix the issues ASAP? If so, will we have the option to uninstall once they are incorporated into the major patch/expansion?
Translated: We can have pie now and not latter, if we so choose!?!?
Yes, all the updates will be included when a patch is released, and the latest optional update at that time will become obsolete.
Judging by how many problems have been reported and how few have been fixed over 4 optional patches so far, I think you have a LONG way to go. You have until November 20th to fix everything or rollback to 1.05, otherwise my account will be suspended and I will NOT re-activate it for at least 3 months from the date I determine that all of Tyrannis 1.1's problems have been resolved. You are doing a better job than Bioware did with Dragon Age: Origins 1.3 (which I will never play again), but I will ALWAYS feel that Tyrannis 1.1 should have NEVER been released and STILL should not be released today considering how many problems still exist.
Btw, before anyone asks, no, you cannot have my stuff.
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khac
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Posted - 2010.10.20 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: khac on 20/10/2010 22:47:24
So, are you going to fix the overview thingy that causes everything to be shown twice after undocking? happens a few times a day here 
Oh, and the jump bridge bug that causes selected item to not update?
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CCP Bella Bee
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Posted - 2010.10.20 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jelstar
I do not have an "install" button in the General Settings tab when I hit esc.
How should I go about applying this optional patch?
Thank you!
At the bottom of the middle column under General Settings, there should be an "Optional Upgrade" section. Under that there should either be a button to install, or it should say "Your client is running an optional upgrade" with an uninstall button below. If neither of those are there, then something is wrong and I would very much appreciate a bug report with a screen shot and logserver output, with a comment asking that it gets forwarded to me.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.20 23:14:00 -
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did this clear the quality assestment department for realise or are u bypassing them for expedeincy again
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.10.21 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jason1138
i'll just wait til the 20th optional patch and get it all then
I still cant get past the character screen except on RARE occasions. I try at least 20 times before giving up...
ALL I WANT TO DO IS LOGIN AND CHANGE A SKILL YET THE REASON CCP WONT HAVE OUT OF GAME SKILL CHANGING IS BECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO LOGIN.
FIXED IT FOR YOU BTW. WHY EVEN BOTHER TO PLAY A GAME IF YOU CANT EVEN LOGIN. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO, TRY A MISSION, LOSE EVERYTHING (IM NOT EVEN MENTIONING NULLSEC CAUSE ITS BROKE AND LAG=DEATH SOCKET CLOSED=DEATH) BUT IN MISSIONS YOU AT LEAST *3% CHANCE% GET A GM TO REIMBURSE EVEN THOUGH LOGS SHOW NOTHING YOU MIGHT ENCOUNTER A GENEROUS GM HAHAHA YEA I KNOW RIGHT?
LET PEOPLE LOGIN TO CHANGE SKILLS OR LET US CHANGE SKILLS IS EVEGATE, WAY TO DISSERVICE YOUR CUSTOMERS. ITS ALL ABOUT WHAT CCP WANTS NOT WHAT THE CUSTOMER WANTS.
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Panhead4411
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Posted - 2010.10.21 00:43:00 -
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"A rare scenario that would remove all brackets in space has been fixed."
Yeah, "Rare" was the word i would have used to describe the frequency...of atleast once per DAY...
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khac
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Posted - 2010.10.21 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: khac on 21/10/2010 01:29:10
Originally by: Zeke Mobius
incredibly annoying off-topic rant with caps lock on
caps lock
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Jane Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.21 01:45:00 -
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Ive got a bad feeling about this patch.
The agent window thing sounds suspect. My agent conversations open in the same stack as my market, character sheet, etc.
I have 1 stack with literally everything, and next to it opens the info window with chat windows/logs/local placed around them.
I have a feeling that agent conversations will no longer stay in the main stack in my UI, if this is the case im going to go mental!
Im also not sure that the stacking fix will address the fact that each new container has its own position and opens in the middle of the screen.
If you break agent conversation stacking AND dont fix new container window locations, albeit small issues, im going to get myself banned from these forums.
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Woodman57
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Posted - 2010.10.21 03:03:00 -
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The "seeing double in overview" is bothersome but I just change tabs and that fixes it.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.10.21 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Veilag
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
tested.
to be fair they rolled it out on sisi like 2 months ago and no one bothers to bug report :P
also I haven't had to instal a single one of these patches. windows stick, corp mates are green.
it's wierd, the new UI must act wierd on just some hardware? software?
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.21 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
to be fair they rolled it out on sisi like 2 months ago and no one bothers to bug report :P
Well here's a totally cool idea: They could use ten or twenty of their own 600 employees (dozens of which play EVE themselves) to TEST THEIR OWN PRODUCT, instead of leaving it for their customers to test OVER A PERIOD OF WEEKS ON THE LIVE SERVER.
Just a thought.
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.21 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
it's wierd, the new UI must act wierd on just some hardware? software?
Nope i dont think its that.
I have 1 client on my PC, but have 2 seperate Eve accounts. My main d/l patch #4 and apart from the odd double overview, is okay. My 2nd account didnt get asked for the patch (obviously imo as my 1 client has already d/l it) but still has numerous bugs which the patch fixed on my mains account.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.21 08:22:00 -
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*hopes for the mail typing crap to be fixed in this one...*
Secure 3rd party service | my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' |
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention
Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Veilag
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
tested.
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Buckaroo Kamakazee
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Steijn
tested.
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:37:00 -
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Tranquility is now open for business.
Spitfire
Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:38:00 -
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let the bugs begin
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Jane Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Griffin on 21/10/2010 11:51:40
Each new cargo container still has its own unique position and does not adhere to the stack that i placed the previous container window i interacted with.
- CONTAINERS SHOULD STACK WITH WRECKS LIKE THEY ALWAYS DID.
Private conversations windows still do not stack with windows like 'corp chat' instead stack perfectly well with each other as long as they are not part of any other stack.
- THE FIRST AND SUBSEQUENT PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS SHOULD OPEN AS PART OF THE SAME STACK THAT THE LAST PRIVATE CONVERSATION WINDOW WAS CLOSED IN LIKE IT ALWAYS DID.
- THERE ALWAYS WAS AN ISSUE WITH PRIVATE CONVOS STACKING IN PINNED STACKS, IF YOU COULD RETURN CONVO WINDOWS TO ORIGINAL BEHAVIOUR AND ALLOW THEM TO STACK WITH PINNED WINDOWS THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT.
Luckily for you CCP agent conversation windows seem unchanged so i wont emorage.
Not sure what the point of this patch was.
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Griffin
Edited by: Jane Griffin on 21/10/2010 11:51:40
Each new cargo container still has its own unique position and does not adhere to the stack that i placed the previous container window i interacted with.
thats working as intended....CCP for some reason have changed it to this way.
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Jane Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Griffin on 21/10/2010 11:55:23
Originally by: Karia Sur
Originally by: Jane Griffin
Edited by: Jane Griffin on 21/10/2010 11:51:40
Each new cargo container still has its own unique position and does not adhere to the stack that i placed the previous container window i interacted with.
thats working as intended....CCP for some reason have changed it to this way.
Thats pretty much unacceptable. The UI is already a busy affair of windows. Removing options for tidying it up is completely the wrong way to go.
I suppose convos are working as intended too? Seems like an easy way to fix things, just say 'we meant to make things worse'... great, all this just twists my guts.
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Nonchalanto
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Posted - 2010.10.21 11:55:00 -
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****! CCP are you fully crazy! Stop ****ing our brains! Find qualified QA team!
A lot functionality does not working.
Right mouse button in chat does not work.
Cyrillic chars in chat with every next symbol become smaller-and-smaller
Messages in chat not sending
... and this only in firs minute, just logged ...
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jAk3Z
Madhatters Inc.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:03:00 -
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Hello I would like to use the > and < symbols again please. >.>'
If I use <.< and send it, no text is send to the chat, the text uses some sort of cloaking device!
If I use >.> only a . get sent.
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari
1st Cavalry Division
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nonchalanto
****! CCP are you fully crazy! Stop ****ing our brains! Find qualified QA team!
A lot functionality does not working.
Right mouse button in chat does not work.
Cyrillic chars in chat with every next symbol become smaller-and-smaller
Messages in chat not sending
... and this only in firs minute, just logged ...
CCP isn't alone, NO PUBLISHER in the MMO industry employs anything remotely resembling proper Q/A processes in their development, as anyone who has ever worked in software/hardware development knows.
Clearly they do not do much, if any, regression testing. And they certainly do not test all scenarios with regard to changes introduced by patches.
Why employ a couple hundred people to do Q/A testing when you have 300,000 who will find the bugs for you and PAY you for the privilege?
It is wrong, and it's inefficient to develop in this manner. We are now on the 5th patch of what was a minor patch. Look at all the time and developer effort wasted on fixing bugs (that still aren't fixed) that with proper Q/A never would have been in the original release to start with. Instead of having trained Q/A professionals root out the defects in the software who can give concise information to developers to fix issues, we waste large amounts of developer time chasing bug reports from amateurs.
CCP, hire a proper Q/A department, or I'd imagine the downtime coming from trying to mesh Dust and Incarna with this mess will be measured in WEEKS, not days...
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:08:00 -
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Due to an issue with EVE Mail formatting, we are disabling Tyrannis 1.1 optional patch #5 and restoring Tyrannis 1.1 optional patch #4. If you installed optional patch #5 you will get this error the next time you log in. To resolve this, start the client, go into the ESC menu, click on the "General Settings" tab, and then hit the "uninstall" button. Restarting the client will then allow you to restory Tyrannis 1.1 to optional patch #4.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: Karia Sur on 21/10/2010 12:12:02
edit: just had a thought, can CCP go judge the ship design competition and let DA do Eves programming?
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Nagsir Inaste
Task Force
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:14:00 -
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I tried to install the optional patch by clicking esc and then click "install optional patch" (I have not installed patch #4 btw), I get a message "cannot apply patch".Is that because now the fifth patch is not available (I guess that's why it says cannot apply patch), but how can I apply patch #4?
Also, I wonder, are these optional patches always inclusive of privious optionl patches, so if I install patch 4 I don't need patches 1-3?
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Jack Gilligan
Caldari
1st Cavalry Division
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:15:00 -
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Our story so far:
In the beginning, there was a patch.
The patch beget a patch to fix the flaws with the patch.
Which beget a patch to repair the flaws that the second patch failed to patch
Which beget a patch to repair the flaws that the third patch failed to patch
Which beget a patch to repair the flaws that the fourth patch failed to patch
Which was withdrawn because the fifth patch introduced flaws that the first patch did not even have.
Confused yet?
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Suk Meballz
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:15:00 -
[45]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Due to an issue with EVE Mail formatting, we are disabling Tyrannis 1.1 optional patch #5 and restoring Tyrannis 1.1 optional patch #4. If you installed optional patch #5 you will get this error the next time you log in. To resolve this, start the client, go into the ESC menu, click on the "General Settings" tab, and then hit the "uninstall" button. Restarting the client will then allow you to restory Tyrannis 1.1 to optional patch #4.
Epic Epic Fail
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nagsir Inaste
I tried to install the optional patch by clicking esc and then click "install optional patch" (I have not installed patch #4 btw), I get a message "cannot apply patch".Is that because now the fifth patch is not available (I guess that's why it says cannot apply patch), but how can I apply patch #4?
Also, I wonder, are these optional patches always inclusive of privious optionl patches, so if I install patch 4 I don't need patches 1-3?
yes, patch #4 will have the previous, er, 'fixes', included in it.
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JcJet
Caldari
Pretenders Inc
Tower of Dark Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:23:00 -
[47]
Edited by: JcJet on 21/10/2010 12:25:23
Awesome.
(http://eve-files.com/dl/231423)
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Guilliman R
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:23:00 -
[48]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Due to an issue with EVE Mail formatting, we are disabling Tyrannis 1.1 optional patch #5 and restoring Tyrannis 1.1 optional patch #4. If you installed optional patch #5 you will get this error the next time you log in. To resolve this, start the client, go into the ESC menu, click on the "General Settings" tab, and then hit the "uninstall" button. Restarting the client will then allow you to restory Tyrannis 1.1 to optional patch #4.
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:27:00 -
[49]
About that testing thing that you mentioned...
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R0driguez
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:28:00 -
[50]
Edited by: R0driguez on 21/10/2010 12:29:08
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Desert Ice78
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:29:00 -
[51]
Epic Fail?!?! There is no word or sentence in the English language that can possibly adequately describe the magnitude of this utter and complete fiasco.
I am slowly developing a theory to cover how CCP does any of its developing and code writing; it involves someone having an idea, said idea being described briefly on paper, and then that paper being thrown into a room full of monkeys. The monkeys then spend the next six weeks ****ting on the paper, trying to eat the corners, and generally fighting over it and masturbating on it. And after the six weeks are up, the idea is released onto Tranquillity as the next update.
Me thinks there is a flaw in there somewhereà..
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Jane Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:33:00 -
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While you are fixing the crap you pulled the patch for. Can you also fix the simple things like private chat windows and container windows?
Im sure you want to, im just beginning to doubt that you have the ability.
kthx........
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention
Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:33:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Veilag
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
tested.
can I say we called it? not that it was difficult...
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Veilag
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:35:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Veilag
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
tested.
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Johnathan Walker
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:42:00 -
[55]
FYI: Update #5 also disables the ability to choose font colors for chat channels. Not sure if it's related to Eve Mail formatting but wouldn't surprise me. 
Warmly,
"The Bear" JW 
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Erinni Tisifone
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Posted - 2010.10.21 12:49:00 -
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Cuchulain Spartan
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Posted - 2010.10.21 13:01:00 -
[57]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Due to an issue with EVE Mail formatting, we are disabling Tyrannis 1.1 optional patch #5 and restoring Tyrannis 1.1 optional patch #4. If you installed optional patch #5 you will get this error the next time you log in. To resolve this, start the client, go into the ESC menu, click on the "General Settings" tab, and then hit the "uninstall" button. Restarting the client will then allow you to restory Tyrannis 1.1 to optional patch #4.
Lucky that you guys live on a cold Island in the middle of a cold ocean otherwise you might be getting a lot of unexpected visitors suddenly 
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Abaroth Charmar
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Posted - 2010.10.21 13:31:00 -
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How is it possible to **** something up with a 5th patch that wasn't ****ed up in the first place?
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Solbright
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2010.10.21 13:36:00 -
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I'm ****ing myself here! Good read everyone.
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Zeke Mobius
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Posted - 2010.10.21 13:46:00 -
[60]
Im now convinced ccp is doing this on purpose
on a dif note, i saw a OMG AWESOME JUMPGATE VIDEO that was "supposedly" leaked.
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Guilliman R
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.10.21 13:57:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Zeke Mobius
Im now convinced ccp is doing this on purpose
on a dif note, i saw a OMG AWESOME JUMPGATE VIDEO that was "supposedly" leaked.
link
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.21 13:59:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Desert Ice78
Epic Fail?!?! There is no word or sentence in the English language that can possibly adequately describe the magnitude of this utter and complete fiasco.
I am slowly developing a theory to cover how CCP does any of its developing and code writing; it involves someone having an idea, said idea being described briefly on paper, and then that paper being thrown into a room full of monkeys. The monkeys then spend the next six weeks ****ting on the paper, trying to eat the corners, and generally fighting over it and masturbating on it. And after the six weeks are up, the idea is released onto Tranquillity as the next update.
Me thinks there is a flaw in there somewhereà..
The Flaw = "it involves someone having an idea"
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Jelstar
Caldari
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Jelstar
I do not have an "install" button in the General Settings tab when I hit esc.
How should I go about applying this optional patch?
Thank you!
At the bottom of the middle column under General Settings, there should be an "Optional Upgrade" section. Under that there should either be a button to install, or it should say "Your client is running an optional upgrade" with an uninstall button below. If neither of those are there, then something is wrong and I would very much appreciate a bug report with a screen shot and logserver output, with a comment asking that it gets forwarded to me.
I'm not sure how to file a bug report nor how to take a log server report.
However, here is the screenshot:
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Amicus Morte
Dead Muppets
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:31:00 -
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So, still no working mail for us  
Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this!
Clear Skies - The Movie
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Tyburn Stannis
Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:41:00 -
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So if Tyrannis v1.1 was the actual patch and v1.1.1 was the first optional patch, with the latest twist in the saga we're now up to v1.1.1.2.3.4.5.4 ?
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Rampant Rory
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Zeke Mobius
Im now convinced ccp is doing this on purpose
Tinfoil aside I think it has certainly done enough to convince me Nathan was right, judging by how many people complain loudly but how few actually quit. Clearly much of the existing playerbase will keep paying no matter what. CCP have made it clear the economic bottom-line is the only voice they grant more than lip service. Sadly that supports continuing pushing half-baked new shiny onto the server.
My last account expires in a few days so farewell all. It was a blast. Hopefully when WOD is live eve will fall back into the hands of enthusiasts once more.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.21 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rampant Rory
Tinfoil aside I think it has certainly done enough to convince me Nathan was right, judging by how many people complain loudly but how few actually quit. Clearly much of the existing playerbase will keep paying no matter what. CCP have made it clear the economic bottom-line is the only voice they grant more than lip service. Sadly that supports continuing pushing half-baked new shiny onto the server.
My last account expires in a few days so farewell all. It was a blast. Hopefully when WOD is live eve will fall back into the hands of enthusiasts once more.
We can only hope for so much.
OH...can I haz your stuffz?
Sorry, had to do it. 
Syn Callibri
Commander - Fleet Ops [21EL]
Keeper of the Blood Pact
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Smejka
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Posted - 2010.10.21 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Alison McCarty
Please fix the mail bug its not possible to send any email using the ingame system anymore.
Yeah CCP pls. It is not possible to write some emails using ingame system.
Thanx a lot
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Blnukem 192
Amarr
Creed.
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Posted - 2010.10.21 18:06:00 -
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HAY CCP I HAVE 17m CAN I HALP?
Originally by: CCP Navigator
This is really not worthy of a thread.
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CCP Bella Bee
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Posted - 2010.10.21 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Catari Taga
Originally by: Veilag
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
tested.
can I say we called it? not that it was difficult...
Yes, thank you. Let me just say it like it is, this was a substantial change to the edit control and in our eagerness to test whether or not it solved the existing issues (which it did), we failed to test some other functionality of the edit. And I'm in all honesty really upset that a) we didn't catch this and b) we don't have a fix out yet for the current issues (copy/paste and memory issues).
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.10.21 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Griffin
Originally by: Karia Sur
Originally by: Jane Griffin
Each new cargo container still has its own unique position and does not adhere to the stack that i placed the previous container window i interacted with.
thats working as intended....CCP for some reason have changed it to this way.
Thats pretty much unacceptable. The UI is already a busy affair of windows. Removing options for tidying it up is completely the wrong way to go.
I just want to echo this sentiment.
If this new useless window-spewing funcitonality is indeed intended then can we please have the old UI backend back because it provides a far better UI.
If new windows are spawned every time something new is opened, then you can never default that position so it will always be wrong, unconditionally. This is bad UI design. It's bad UI designed built into the rules. That means you fundamental rules are wrong as wellà
Give us back our automatic new-window stacks. Now.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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CCP Bella Bee
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Posted - 2010.10.21 20:06:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Jelstar
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Originally by: Jelstar
I do not have an "install" button in the General Settings tab when I hit esc.
How should I go about applying this optional patch?
Thank you!
At the bottom of the middle column under General Settings, there should be an "Optional Upgrade" section. Under that there should either be a button to install, or it should say "Your client is running an optional upgrade" with an uninstall button below. If neither of those are there, then something is wrong and I would very much appreciate a bug report with a screen shot and logserver output, with a comment asking that it gets forwarded to me.
I'm not sure how to file a bug report nor how to take a log server report.
However, here is the screenshot: Posting images directly is not allowed here. Spitfire
Note that you have to be logged in before you get the button to install the update.
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.21 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
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At least we are now able to converse with someone instead of getting the impression that we are been ignored as was the case up until recently.
1 question for you : what did you personally do that was so bad that it ended up with you drawing the short straw and been shoved into the front line receiving all the flak from us?
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Swidgen
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Posted - 2010.10.21 20:14:00 -
[74]
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
... we want to get the fixes out as soon as they are ready and tested.
Anyone else sick of being lied to yet? You can only treat your customers like dog**** and get away with it for so long.
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Demitrios
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.10.21 22:20:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Swidgen
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
... we want to get the fixes out as soon as they are ready and tested.
Anyone else sick of being lied to yet? You can only treat your customers like dog**** and get away with it for so long.
So if the patch was tested, why are you disabling it?
Sounds to me like it was given the "well it has'nt deleted my boot.ini" test, then shoved out the front door.
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Lanais Suleia
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Posted - 2010.10.21 22:40:00 -
[76]
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Veilag
Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
tested.
to be fair they rolled it out on sisi like 2 months ago and no one bothers to bug report :P
also I haven't had to instal a single one of these patches. windows stick, corp mates are green.
it's wierd, the new UI must act wierd on just some hardware? software?
Many people have reported Sisi bug reports that were filed and ignored on these issues. Get your facts straight before jumping in and defending mummy and daddy. |
Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.10.22 10:46:00 -
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Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
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Sybil Harman
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Posted - 2010.10.22 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Bella Bee
Yes, thank you. Let me just say it like it is, this was a substantial change to the edit control and in our eagerness to test whether or not it solved the existing issues (which it did), we failed to test some other functionality of the edit. And I'm in all honesty really upset that a) we didn't catch this and b) we don't have a fix out yet for the current issues (copy/paste and memory issues).
Don't worry about it Bella. it must be very embarrassing for you to be the face of CCP on this.
Given the history of this (3 weeks and counting) I doubt anyone really thought that patch #5 would be any more successful than the previous four. It's got so I just expect the patch to fail now - which is funny, in a sad and pathetic kind of way
For the record: Will the next patch be #6 or do you want to try for #5 again?
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2010.10.22 19:53:00 -
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Its like a bad horror movie ad, "Patch #5 (the re-breaking)"...coming soon to a client near you.
/sarcasm off
Syn Callibri
Commander - Fleet Ops [21EL]
Keeper of the Blood Pact
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Kerr avonn
Minmatar
Standard By 10
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Posted - 2010.10.24 16:27:00 -
[80]
Whoa! 5 patches? the 1st 4 didn't do much that I could see, that will be why there is a fifth patch. TBH I give up with EvE.
Major lagg in 0.0, major boredom everywhere else.
Dont get me wrong I love EvE, but the plain fact is IT DONT WORK!!!
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.25 17:11:00 -
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is there an eta on the mail fix?
It's has gone past annoying!
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Sybil Harman
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Posted - 2010.10.25 19:42:00 -
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Less than a week now and CCP will have been patching the broken UI on the live TQ server, mostly unsuccessfully, for the whole of October.
Go Team!
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.27 10:09:00 -
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Since this patch has not been deployed, the thread will be locked and a new one posted for any future patches.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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