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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.10.24 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 24/10/2010 07:34:04
In the late nineties I was a teenager and I knew everything.
Convinced I would get the perfect, almost future proof PC I tried to watch trends and dumped a butt-load of cash on a new PC. A 333Mhz Dell for about $2.5k.
In the ensuing weeks, the market was on a visible and immediate path for 1Ghz processors. 
Fast forward.
Inaugural day for Obama (no meaning, just happened all the parts arrived and i didn't have to work that day).
I built the following:
Asus P6T Deluxe
i7 920
12gig Corsair Domi @ 1600Mhz
Velociraptor Raid stripe
295 GTX
Vista Ultimate x64
I was happy.
2 Years later and much to my surprise, the PC is still amazingly current for specific engineering reasons.
2 Weeks ago I invested just $300 into this PC and despite all the raving reviews everywhere else, I need to share and emphasize this lesson with you.
I understand the many reasons my PC has seeming made it 2 years and remained pretty much top of the line.
-I spent too much
-Triple channel memory to your processors is vastly underestimated. It's a complete re-engineering of the front side bus and not only revolutionizes motherboard ability, it brings new meaning to every Gb of ram and is the ying to the yang that is the i7's engineering marvel.
-i7
Now I was impressed with the performance of my on board Raid from day 1. I've been a customer of Asus's boards for some time (they aren't the best, but I just buy them. What is this I don't even...). I had developed a feeling of 'good enough' for the onboard controllers. Not as good as a dedicated card but good enough.
The onboard for the P6T Deluxe is great. I can only imagine the subsequent versions of the motherboard are just as good. Yes, you can still get better performance out of a PCI card controller, and in the future they will continue to get badarse w/ SSD cards, but these are still 'good enough'.
Anyways where was I? Ah,
I bought 2 OCZ Agility 2 60Gb Sata II drives and a copy of Windows 7.
I quickly learned (what so many others already know) that
-Microsoft actually did win7 right. And with SSDs it's even more so.
-An SSD Raid stripe makes it appear with most software that everything in PC world happens instantaneously. Why do they make these progress bars? They go by so fast I can't even see them.
-Eliminating all measurable bottlenecks in the system aside from USB interfaces and dvd/whatever ROM drives + modern hardware = PC of the future, today.
I know you've heard great things about SSDs. What I want to repeat is you just won't believe the performance increase you will experience when you use them.
I planted a Raid Stripe for my 2 on my P6T controller. Just installs, research things to shut off (some are done automatically under win7). Basically you want to eliminate as much writing to the SSDs as possible to enjoy years of speedy performance.
Threw the Velociraptors on the next 2 ports of the controller in a stripe. Moved all docs/downloads/cache/whatever crap to there.
Added a Tb mirror storage array on the last 2 ports.
If you have a great PC. If you have spent more than $2k on a PC in the last 2 years..
BUY AT LEAST ONE SSD FOR YOUR PC.
It will actually use all that expensive crap in your box! If you've never experienced a high end PC w/ one... you will not believe your eyes when you see that this technology exists.
Go buy an SSD.
Now.
Why are you still reading this? Go to NewEgg and buy one, or two, or more...
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Duvida
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.24 07:46:00 -
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I've heard very good things about SSDs on a dedicated forum. I've also heard bad stories, so you do need to look for reliablity. It's a new field and so you need to be careful to sort the good solid products from the ones that will make your wallet cry while not delivering any of the promised service.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.10.24 10:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Duvida
I've heard very good things about SSDs on a dedicated forum. I've also heard bad stories, so you do need to look for reliablity. It's a new field and so you need to be careful to sort the good solid products from the ones that will make your wallet cry while not delivering any of the promised service.
True. However if you can't utilize the tools and channels available from the interwebs to find something worth your $$ you have no business trying to improve your pc yourself. If you can't read a few reviews and some feedback from actual customers... you need to go to BestBuy and get ripped the frell off.
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2010.10.24 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Duvida
I've heard very good things about SSDs on a dedicated forum. I've also heard bad stories, so you do need to look for reliablity. It's a new field and so you need to be careful to sort the good solid products from the ones that will make your wallet cry while not delivering any of the promised service.
AFAIK the reliability problems were a result of the first generation of ssd controllers. The current ones are supposed to be much better/fixed.
i've been using an ssd on my desktop with no problems at all for the last few months (I also got cpu/gpu/mobo/memory/windows 7 at the same time, and haven't had a single problem with the new build - things have come a long way the last few years!)
Now, whenever I use one of the other laptops/desktops around my house, the first thought to go through my head is 'this thing must be broken' - they seem that much slower!
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.10.24 11:03:00 -
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I swear I just read a thread praising ssd.... and I know what I'm blowing my next paycheck on 
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Sitara
Minmatar
Solar Flare Trade and Production
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Posted - 2010.10.24 11:08:00 -
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*tick* Another convert 
ps. He's right - once you SSD you'll wonder what took you so long.....
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.24 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sitara
*tick* Another convert
ps. He's right - once you SSD you'll wonder what took you so long.....
Probably also marvel why for decades the emphasis in PC 'evolution' has been the CPU/Memory bandwidth and completely ignored the obvious elephant in the room - and the one thing that completely dictates how your PC performs in 99.999% of all daily tasks: data i/o.
Since I discovered striped SCSI disks circa 1999 I have been basically waiting for mechanical magnetic media to disappear so the real era of proper home computing can be ushered in.
Finally .. ffs. Also the proliferation of SSD really is a nail in the coffin for 'cpu' based marketing and cpu-centric PC sales.
Frankly, my 3 year old still as of yet completely unexploited 6600+ more than handles absolutely everything I do. GPU not-withstanding, the SSD is the single most significant event in computing (imho) since the advent of the microprocessor and cheap home computer proliferation in the late 80's.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.10.24 14:44:00 -
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Let me ruin your happy the computer is still fast as long as you do not look at Q1 2011 with the new socket 1155 and 2011, your 920 has also been replaced.
SSD's aint worth the cost ATM unless you have money to blow a GOOD ssd is $300 and a REALLY good SSD needs sata3.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2010.10.24 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: alittlebirdy
SSD's aint worth the cost ATM unless you have money to blow a GOOD ssd is $300 and a REALLY good SSD needs sata3.
Even when running in IDE mode (my 3-year old motherboard doesn't support AHCI, never mind SATA III), an SSD can still outperform a hard drive by miles, especially when reading/writing lots of small files scattered all over the place.
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Brennivargur
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Posted - 2010.10.24 18:14:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1392987
here's mine.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
I have facial hair how can I help?
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SaturatedEvil
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Posted - 2010.10.24 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: SaturatedEvil on 24/10/2010 18:17:48
Raid SSD's = No TRIM command
Have fun having nuking your drives on a regular basis :)
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.24 19:04:00 -
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Really the thing you would be waiting for is 25nm flash, it will make a gb of ssd much cheaper. Currently we are at about $2/gb of 40 nm flash, the move to 25nm will roughly triple the amount of ram made per wafer. that should bring the price down to $0.70/gb. Which means more than just the system disk can be stored on the hard drive. Yes the 25 nm flash does burn out faster but you are only paying $0.70 / gb so you just get bigger drives and a little more redundancy.
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2010.10.24 20:01:00 -
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Upgrading sucks, I hate reinstalling Windows / all my programs ...
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.24 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Grimpak on 24/10/2010 21:02:25
while I do agree that SSD's are the way of the future, I prefer to wait till they get somewhere near the $-per-GB and reliability that regular HDD's have today.
of course that you can use a SSD for the OS and programs and all that, but it's still not good enough imho.
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V'hellu
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Posted - 2010.10.24 21:06:00 -
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I learned this trick many years ago:
Don't blow your money on expensive new technology that revolutionizes things until it comes down to a reasonable price.
LED/LCD tv's for instance... much more reasonable now then they were 2 years ago :P
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Something Random
Gallente
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2010.10.24 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 24/10/2010 07:34:04
In the late nineties I was a teenager and I knew everything.
Convinced I would get the perfect, almost future proof PC I tried to watch trends and dumped a butt-load of cash on a new PC. A 333Mhz Dell for about $2.5k.
In the ensuing weeks, the market was on a visible and immediate path for 1Ghz processors.
You got ripped, in the infamous AMD shows the world how Intel has drip fed its customers saga. Its the one thing i love AMD for as that Intel crap was getting stupid... no... rediculously stupid.
AMD "tada we made a processor go 1GHz..."
Intel "Oh... erm... yes... we did too..." *runs to the scientists to check on ability to wipe floor with AMD*.
Intel Scientist "Yeh, didnt you get the memo last year ? we made a stable 3GHz processor that doesnt microwave the cat anymore."
...at least thats my version of events and frankly im sticking with them.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.25 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: SaturatedEvil
Edited by: SaturatedEvil on 24/10/2010 18:17:48
Raid SSD's = No TRIM command
Have fun having nuking your drives on a regular basis :)
This.
I recently built a new system based around the following (like in the last couple of weeks) :
Asus Rampage III Extreme
24GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz
Intel i7 980x (3.33GHz) - Running at 4.6GHz (overpriced, but the most stable solution for savage overclocking)
2GB Sapphire HD5870 Vapor X (intending to add a second in crossfire when it arrives)
It's solely designed for hard overclocking, high end gaming and intense multi boxing in Eve, meaning upwards of 5 clients simultaneously, usually way more (hence the massive amount of RAM).
I still haven't gone with SSDs for general use and have stuck to Samsung Spinpoint F3 hard disks purely due to the fact that the amount of I/O going on is going to vastly reduce the lifespan of SSDs in their current state of development.
Yes, they're fast. Yes, they're pretty reliable and less susceptible to shock damage and suchlike but in the end they're horridly overpriced for their capacity and their lifespan doesn't pay off against the price that they're currently being sold for.
I did get hold of one 40GB Corsair drive with the new build that plugs into the top SSD slot on my Darkfleet DF-85, and I've been running various things from it to see how they perform.
I completely agree that they're fast, however the benefits are far outweighed by the cost per gigabyte of storage space, short lifespan and the limited support for TRIM. SSDs need to come a long way before they're "mainstream".
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Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.10.25 02:55:00 -
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Load OS into RAM instead of buying SSD.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.10.25 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Originally by: alittlebirdy
SSD's aint worth the cost ATM unless you have money to blow a GOOD ssd is $300 and a REALLY good SSD needs sata3.
Even when running in IDE mode (my 3-year old motherboard doesn't support AHCI, never mind SATA III), an SSD can still outperform a hard drive by miles, especially when reading/writing lots of small files scattered all over the place.
ONLY on random read/writes, and guess what, useless for most apps, a w
half ass defraged HDD = no problem, and SSD's lower end ones are on par with normal HDD's the only + they get is read/write speed does not change as it does with the platers as you get further out from the center.
SSD's are nice, and if you can blow 300-500$, and have sata3, omg get one. If not, spend your money on more ram or something else, save it for later when prices drop.
SAME hdd's more ram, I went from close to last to load in World of tanks to one of the first if not the first, SAME HDD...
Right now SSD's not worth the cost unless you have money to burn, then by all means get one.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.10.25 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Something Random
You got ripped
I did in so far I could have spent far less for similar performance. Intel is still a rip off but at least with this latest generation there are very real engineering advantages a consumer can point out to justify costs.
Unless someone has disposable income and (today) has a real need to buy an i7... I've always seen AMD as a MUCH smarter choice for most consumers.
I didn't in the respect I paid for top of the line at the time, and that PC lasted for many many years.
It wasn't long before the awesome Dell with rock solid hardware and support turned into the Dell we know of today... which unless i see some laptop for sale stupid cheap I'll probably never buy from them again.
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: SaturatedEvil
Raid SSD's = No TRIM command
Have fun having nuking your drives on a regular basis :)
This.
A couple things on this one...
First, you are correct the TRIM command is not currently able to be translated through a RAID controller.
Most users out there aren't going to set up a raid array and will buy just one drive. So for single drive users, whoopity-do.
For people that do decide to buy into the market this early, a health understanding of the technology and responsible management of your PC is everything to making sure that the $300+ you spent isn't wasted completely after a couple months of use.
As I stated in my OP, it is very important to use a newer OS that was designed with SSD in mind. It is even more important setting up how your OS uses files, where it keeps them etc... YOU CAN GET YEARS OF GREAT PERFORMANCE OUT OF NEWER SSDs!!
The trick is understanding that every write to a SSD is like tapping a nail into a board a bit at a time. EVERY write is permanent damage to the drive.
Set up the drive with OS files and program files you want to run fast, but try to manage things so you're as close to READ ONLY on the SSD as is possible.
Move everything else off to a regular platter disk.
Managed correctly even a raid stripe without the TRIM data management should last for a long LONG time with very minimal performance degradations.
Someone said Sata III in here? There are a couple Sata III SSDs out there but the market won't be prime for them for a few more months.
Originally by: alittlebirdy
Let me ruin your happy the computer is still fast as long as you do not look at Q1 2011 with the new socket 1155 and 2011, your 920 has also been replaced.
SSD's aint worth the cost ATM unless you have money to blow a GOOD ssd is $300 and a REALLY good SSD needs sata3.
I'd be happy to let you 'ruin my happy' but I'm not hearing anything intelligent.
I think you missed the point dude. The point is, it will be quite some time before I see a performance issue that will need to be addressed by replacing ANY hardware (barring perhaps the video card).
My processor can be replaced 5 times over, but if it is not in any way a noticeable performance bottleneck what is your point?
This is the same problem with your Sata III comment. Of course in the future I'll want to upgrade with better hardware, but if you think outside of a benchmarking tool you will even notice the difference between Sata II and III with almost any conceivable application you are dumber than your comment.
Buy SSDs now knowing in a year or so you will want a much better generation. I'll manage with what I have and hopefully in +-18months they will have a 1/2 Tb PCI card I can buy that will interface at or much faster than Sata III.
Until then I repeat, upgrading to a SSD now is probably the best $200-$300 dollars you will have ever spent on your PC.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.25 15:34:00 -
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I use SSD's in all my computers except for the file server. It is awesome and I can't wait for the third generation SSD's to come out in a month or two for even better performance.
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AlleyKat
Gallente
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2010.10.25 18:52:00 -
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Name the odd one out:
1: Lavazza Oro
2: Blondes
3: Shark Fishing
4: A hot lap of Nnrburgring
5: Teeing off at Belek-Antalya, at dawn
6: A shot of Macallan 1926 whiskey
7: non-Solid State hard disk drives
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2010.10.25 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: alittlebirdy
SSD's are nice, and if you can blow 300-500$, and have sata3, omg get one. If not, spend your money on more ram or something else, save it for later when prices drop.
SAME hdd's more ram, I went from close to last to load in World of tanks to one of the first if not the first, SAME HDD...
Right now SSD's not worth the cost unless you have money to burn, then by all means get one.
It appears that you are talking drunk here, based on nothing more than very out of date reviews. Have you actually used a computer running on an ssd?
3-500$ ? - I don't know where you get that figure from? You only need to store your OS and regularly used apps on the ssd. ú82 (maybe $90?) will get you 64GB, and if you really have to have fast access to your dozen favourite games (rather than your few favourite) splash out another ú30/$35 for 90GB. It's not exactly breaking the bank. I guess if you are a real life F*gin you could wait a few years and save a few pennies.
I don't know why you keep talking about sata 3. It has no relevance. sata 2 can handle 300gb (more than a good ssd, and way more than your 'old hat' HD).
Your statement about more ram and your world of tanks loading times - makes me think you are possibly an out and out troll. Your computer must have been severely gimped by lack of ram, or built and set up by a compete fool if that was the case. Assuming that someone has an at least relatively ballanced computer atm, then their best bang for their buck upgrade is an ssd.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.25 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
3-500$ ? - I don't know where you get that figure from? You only need to store your OS and regularly used apps on the ssd. ú82 (maybe $90?) will get you 64GB, and if you really have to have fast access to your dozen favourite games (rather than your few favourite) splash out another ú30/$35 for 90GB. It's not exactly breaking the bank. I guess if you are a real life F*gin you could wait a few years and save a few pennies.
thing is, it's still too much money for just 90gb.
I mean for 100Ç you can buy a very decent 1 TB HDD already. and it will last loads more than your SSD.
tbh I would wait till SSD's become more mainstream. ATM they seem to be better for laptops, not because of the speed, but for the actual lack of mechanic parts and lower energy consumption.
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Brennivargur
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Posted - 2010.10.25 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: dr doooo
3-500$ ? - I don't know where you get that figure from? You only need to store your OS and regularly used apps on the ssd. ú82 (maybe $90?) will get you 64GB, and if you really have to have fast access to your dozen favourite games (rather than your few favourite) splash out another ú30/$35 for 90GB. It's not exactly breaking the bank. I guess if you are a real life F*gin you could wait a few years and save a few pennies.
thing is, it's still too much money for just 90gb.
I mean for 100Ç you can buy a very decent 1 TB HDD already. and it will last loads more than your SSD.
tbh I would wait till SSD's become more mainstream. ATM they seem to be better for laptops, not because of the speed, but for the actual lack of mechanic parts and lower energy consumption.
Its not about the SIZE, its about the SPEED
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
I have facial hair how can I help?
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Enraged Stoat
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Posted - 2010.10.25 22:41:00 -
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+1 SSD ftw. Best upgrade money can buy. My experience with them, fwiw...
2x SLC in raid0, bulletproof since the day they were installed 2 years ago. On a very busy work database server.
6x MLC in various guises (single in laptop, triple raid0 desktop)... 4 have failed so far. I've been running them for three years. All were replaced under warranty. Mixture of OCZ, SuperTalent and MTron, 1st, 2nd and now 4th gen disks.
MLC is hugely unreliable compared to SLC. And that is what you pay for. MLC NAND craps out after perhaps 10,000 write cycles, SLC will go on to a million or more. No amount of firmware updates, fancy wear levelling or different controllers will compensate for MLC being inherently rubbish - all it can do is delay the inevitable.
Personally I find the response time over a mechanical drive is well worth it even with the danger of data death. It's easy to schedule a backup, my PC's image their system disks every morning at 5am, I've used them to restore on the occasion a disk died. There's also a faster filesync of personal documents etc at 5pm to pickup the days work. But, even with mechanical disks you take backups, right?... 
In short, yes, buy an SSD for your system disk, even an MLC one, you will be blown away. Just be a good geek and keep regular backups so you don't QQ when the inevitable happens.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.26 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Brennivargur
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: dr doooo
3-500$ ? - I don't know where you get that figure from? You only need to store your OS and regularly used apps on the ssd. ú82 (maybe $90?) will get you 64GB, and if you really have to have fast access to your dozen favourite games (rather than your few favourite) splash out another ú30/$35 for 90GB. It's not exactly breaking the bank. I guess if you are a real life F*gin you could wait a few years and save a few pennies.
thing is, it's still too much money for just 90gb.
I mean for 100Ç you can buy a very decent 1 TB HDD already. and it will last loads more than your SSD.
tbh I would wait till SSD's become more mainstream. ATM they seem to be better for laptops, not because of the speed, but for the actual lack of mechanic parts and lower energy consumption.
Its not about the SIZE, its about the SPEED
which indeed would be nice for high-end pc's.
but I'm with verone here, it isn't worth it at the time. maybe 1 year or 2 years for it to become mainstream, and even then I'm of the opinion that it'll take a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time to reach the same value/size/lifespan of yon normal HDD.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.10.26 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
Edited by: dr doooo on 25/10/2010 20:04:00
Originally by: alittlebirdy
SSD's are nice, and if you can blow 300-500$, and have sata3, omg get one. If not, spend your money on more ram or something else, save it for later when prices drop.
SAME hdd's more ram, I went from close to last to load in World of tanks to one of the first if not the first, SAME HDD...
Right now SSD's not worth the cost unless you have money to burn, then by all means get one.
It appears that you are talking drunk here, based on nothing more than very out of date reviews. Have you actually used a computer running on an ssd?
3-500$ ? - I don't know where you get that figure from? You only need to store your OS and regularly used apps on the ssd. ú82 (maybe $90?) will get you 64GB, and if you really have to have fast access to your dozen favourite games (rather than your few favourite) splash out another ú30/$35 for 90GB. It's not exactly breaking the bank. I guess if you are a real life F*gin you could wait a few years and save a few pennies.
I don't know why you keep talking about sata 3. It has no relevance. sata 2 can handle 300gb (more than a good ssd, and way more than your 'old hat' HD).
Your statement about more ram and your world of tanks loading times - makes me think you are possibly an out and out troll. Your computer must have been severely gimped by lack of ram, or built and set up by a compete fool if that was the case. Assuming that someone has an at least relatively ballanced computer atm, then their best bang for their buck upgrade is an ssd.
Edit: sorry, didn't mean to cut your quote in half there. The first part shows how out of date you are though, with your statement about comparable read/write times for cheap ssd's and old HD's. Not even close these days.
O reallyà http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148349 first off SSD, ONLY helps load times, nothing more, SWEET eve loads 1sec faster, omg, yay, wtf is the point, ssd 250mb/sec (on paper) ram, low end ddr3, 11gig/sec or soà hmà what would I want, 60 gigs of SSD that wonÆt even hold my basic install, OR, 8 gigs of ram @ 11gig/sec, so I do not need to pageà hmmm. Hmmmmà
Seeing as you do not know where anything I say comes from I would suggest you stop talking as you do not know what you are talking about. Sata 2 can handle 300gb? LOL wut!? Of what size, or speed, both are wrong.
O here, smaller, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357 it needs SATA 3 to hit those speeds so lol @ you. Spend epic money, to get, junk, or bottlenecked junk, also, we are moving to PCI-E HDDÆs as it takes away the lag of the sata controllerà and ya they have different ssds with more write speed and the same read, but, read is what matters and what you will see, not so much write.
SSDs are as bad of a money spender as higher speed RAMà lol
O ya raid SSDÆs = no TRIM = faster death. So many smart pplz in this forum lol.
But you have fun with your little faster load times, I will just lol as I am the 1-5th person loaded into world of tanks on my 3 year old WD black HDD.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.26 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: alittlebirdy
But you have fun with your little faster load times, I will just lol as I am the 1-5th person loaded into world of tanks on my 3 year old WD black HDD.
Have you ever used a SSD based computer?
I will never go back to a PC with a spinning disc again. I mean just such a minor thing as the PC is silent when you don't have a drive clonking away in the background, or that you can reboot Windows in 34 seconds. And as soon Windows is loaded you can start an app in an instant and not wait for the bloody thing to stop reading whatever data it has left to read.
Other minor benefits is that the new shiny SiSiLauncher takes what 2-3 minutes to copy and patch the full EVE install. Oh and in the laptop it is adding battery life in addition to the massive speed boost as laptop drives by default are slow.
I only use the SSD's for OS and apps, all storage is done on my fileserver as it would be a bit costly to have 10TB on SSD  . This way it is plenty of space left on the 80GB Intel M80 G2's.
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Posted - 2010.10.26 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Have you ever used a SSD based computer?
I will never go back to a PC with a spinning disc again. I mean just such a minor thing as the PC is silent when you don't have a drive clonking away in the background, or that you can reboot Windows in 34 seconds.
Sorry to bust a bubble here but my ladies new comp - search back for the full spec i posted it last month - will boot and be settled in 25 seconds/30 for the reboot. Using WD1Tb drive.
Surely SSD is quicker than 34 secs ? I realise in a reboot you are saving some data to normal storage. Clinks and Clangs though compared to the peace of the rest of the comp as you pointed out.
Originally by: CCP Fallout
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