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WMunny	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:07:00 - [1] In my limited experience of this game (just a couple of weeks), I've come to the conclusion that New Eden is akin to Zimbabwe with lawlessness and disorder, and ISK is akin to Zimbabwean Dollars - worthless.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:10:00 - [2] Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 27/10/2010 11:11:20 I see you are quiting, You won't be missed! Tootles 0/ -- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen! For Great Justice!
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:14:00 - [3] The truth here is the OP feels he is a worthless pleb because he can't have as much isk as the richest people in eve. As for discovering lawlessness and disorder, did you just pick a game at random to play? Spending 30 seconds reading about eve would tell you that. ~_~
sasabor	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:15:00 - [4] But that is just the whole point of the game, it is not everyday you can act as a evil dictator Besides in the batte between good and evil , evil has more fun
WMunny	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:20:00 - [5] Edited by: WMunny on 27/10/2010 11:21:39 Originally by: Lady Spank The truth here is the OP feels he is a worthless pleb because he can't have as much isk as the richest people in eve. Charming.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:33:00 - [6] Haha, GTFO and get a clue before shiptoasting about things you don't understand noob. If I see you in space I'm blowing up your worthless ISK. ~_~
WMunny	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:36:00 - [7] This was meant to be a semi-serious discussion about game dynamics and economy. I posed the opening question so as to be shot down in flames (so to speak) or to stir some kind of reasonable explanation. If you'd rather take a personal swipe at me then obviously I cannot stop you. Maybe you should chill a little.
Peter XZ Gallente	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:37:00 - [8] Originally by: WMunny In my limited experience of this game (just a couple of weeks), I've come to the conclusion that New Eden is akin to Zimbabwe with lawlessness and disorder, and ISK is akin to Zimbabwean Dollars - worthless. Excuse the rudeness of some players posting in this thread, I see your point, if you're quitting, please contract all your goods to me, and have a nice day :) AMAZING VIDEO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koTGkgcMOL0[/url
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:40:00 - [9] Originally by: WMunny This was meant to be a semi-serious discussion about game dynamics and economy. Ok. What do you want to discuss? Quote: I posed the opening question No you didn't. You made a statement based on personal perception and limited experience, for no apparent reason. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
GizzyBoy	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:40:00 - [10] Your right isk is worthless, that's why some people trade in precious tears
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:40:00 - [11] Originally by: WMunny This was meant to be a semi-serious discussion about game dynamics and economy. I posed the opening question so as to be shot down in flames (so to speak) or to stir some kind of reasonable explanation. If you'd rather take a personal swipe at me then obviously I cannot stop you. Maybe you should chill a little. Gee I wonder why we are Flaming you, lets check out the OP. Originally by: WMunny In my limited experience of this game (just a couple of weeks), I've come to the conclusion that New Eden is akin to Zimbabwe with lawlessness and disorder, and ISK is akin to Zimbabwean Dollars - worthless. Yup thats why. You want to Discuss, ask questions and be specific not OMG game is worthless. -- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen! For Great Justice!
Rakrist Caldari	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:42:00 - [12] Originally by: WMunny In my limited experience of this game
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:42:00 - [13] OP, don't mind these people that have replied so far. I suspect at least one is a dev alt who takes any negative comment towards the game personally. However, a couple of weeks is nothing in Eve. The biggest problem with Eve is it's lack of instant gratification. Not that it doesn't have any, it's just it doesn't have very much of it. Compounding the issue it the lack of easily accessible documentation and the game having little to no clearly defined direction guiding the player to an ultimate end. Further worsening the issue is the lack of casual play style. Oh, there will be people here who swear they play casually. Then you come to learn that 5 hours a day is casual to them. It's up to you to decide how you wish to proceed.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:44:00 - [14] Originally by: Mr Kidd OP, don't mind these people that have replied so far. I suspect at least one is a dev alt who takes any negative comment towards the game personally. However, a couple of weeks is nothing in Eve. The biggest problem with Eve is it's lack of instant gratification. Not that it doesn't have any, it's just it doesn't have very much of it. Compounding the issue it the lack of easily accessible documentation and the game having little to no clearly defined direction guiding the player to an ultimate end. Further worsening the issue is the lack of casual play style. Oh, there will be people here who swear they play casually. Then you come to learn that 5 hours a day is casual to them. It's up to you to decide how you wish to proceed. Dev Alt Spotted! -- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen! For Great Justice!
WMunny	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:50:00 - [15] Thanks Mr Kidd. Before anyone takes offence (probably too late for that now), I'm not griping at the game. I've enjoyed playing for the last couple of weeks, building a character from scratch and learning a whole new "world". It's very interesting, and I can see how people get hooked on it. I'm sure CPP take the economy of New Eden seriously.
Alara IonStorm Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:54:00 - [16] Originally by: WMunny I'm sure CCP take the economy of New Eden seriously. They hired a man with a PHD in Economics Dr. Eyj=lfur Gu=mundsson to run it, so yes, yes the do. -- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen! For Great Justice!
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:55:00 - [17] Originally by: WMunny In my limited experience of this game (just a couple of weeks), I've come to the conclusion that New Eden is akin to Zimbabwe with lawlessness and disorder, and ISK is akin to Zimbabwean Dollars - worthless. Originally by: Mr Kidd However, a couple of weeks is nothing in Eve. The biggest problem with Eve is it's lack of instant gratification. Not that it doesn't have any, it's just it doesn't have very much of it. Compounding the issue it the lack of easily accessible documentation and the game having little to no clearly defined direction guiding the player to an ultimate end. Further worsening the issue is the lack of casual play style. Oh, there will be people here who swear they play casually. Then you come to learn that 5 hours a day is casual to them. It's up to you to decide how you wish to proceed. Both of you are completely right, and all of the points you listed is exactly why I play EVE and why no other MMO ever compares, and most probably won't be able to compare to it in the future. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real!
WMunny	Posted - 2010.10.27 11:57:00 - [18] The ISK cost of a PLEX has doubled over the past year. Inflation must be running very high.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:02:00 - [19] Originally by: WMunny The ISK cost of a PLEX has doubled over the past year. No. Quote: Inflation must be running very high. Which kind? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:03:00 - [20] Ships and modules are cheaper than ever, you are clueless. ~_~
Surogate	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:10:00 - [21] Originally by: WMunny This was meant to be a semi-serious discussion about game dynamics and economy. I posed the opening question so as to be shot down in flames (so to speak) or to stir some kind of reasonable explanation. If you'd rather take a personal swipe at me then obviously I cannot stop you. Maybe you should chill a little. Welcome to the eve-o forums.
WMunny	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:19:00 - [22] Looking at the graph for 30 Day Plex. 6 months ago the value was 255M and recently peaked at 390M. Put it like this. What is to stop me buying PLEX now and converting to 20BN ISK now?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:25:00 - [23] Originally by: WMunny Looking at the graph for 30 Day Plex. 6 months ago the value was 255M and recently peaked at 390M. So, looking at the wrong period, not doubled, still centred around the average price they've had since day oneà Quote: Put it like this. What is to stop me buying PLEX now and converting to 20BN ISK now? Your unwillingness to spend $900. And is this "it" that you are putting like this? Stop beating around the bush. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Jennifer Starling	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:27:00 - [24] Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 27/10/2010 12:29:34 Originally by: WMunny Put it like this. What is to stop me buying PLEX now and converting to 20BN ISK now? Nothing, if that's what you want to do this may be the right time for it. That said, the fact that one thing is becoming more expensive doesn't mean ISK inflation. PLEX may have become more expensive because there's reasons to believe that CCP will introduce plex for remaps, which will cause far more demand. A lot of POS stuff is far more expensive now because CCP introduced PI. Almost all the ships, modules, T2 stuff, datacores are all a lot cheaper now than a year ago, though. Generally things have become a lot cheaper over time.
Surogate	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:28:00 - [25] Originally by: WMunny Looking at the graph for 30 Day Plex. 6 months ago the value was 255M and recently peaked at 390M. Put it like this. What is to stop me buying PLEX now and converting to 20BN ISK now? Only thing to limit you would be trying to sell so many plex' and keep the price as high as it is, the current price is inflated slightly from CCP's rescent campain to help Pakistan flood victims.
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:35:00 - [26] Originally by: WMunny Looking at the graph for 30 Day Plex. 6 months ago the value was 255M and recently peaked at 390M. Put it like this. What is to stop me buying PLEX now and converting to 20BN ISK now? Well, you have already claimed that ISK is worthless... so I would hope that you have enough brains to not spend real life $$$ on something that you describe as "akin to Zimbabwean Dollars - worthless." ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------
Ran Khanon Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:39:00 - [27] Mbona ripping juu ya watu kutoka Zimbabwe?! -_- ~~Recruiting!~~
WMunny	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:39:00 - [28] If I invest ú8,000 (GPB) now, I could become one of the richest individuals in the game immediately (by purchasing and selling 484 Plex units). That's equivalent to 40 years of game play.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:41:00 - [29] Originally by: WMunny If I invest ú8,000 (GPB) now, I could become one of the richest individuals in the game immediately (by purchasing and selling 484 Plex units). That's equivalent to 40 years of game play. Yes? Andà? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Jose Black	Posted - 2010.10.27 12:42:00 - [30] Originally by: WMunny What is to stop me buying PLEX now and converting to 20BN ISK now? Eventually at some point you'll encounter a lack of demand. That'd lower the price and maybe leave you sitting on a stack of PLEX you're not going to sell anytime soon. Since 20BN isn't much at all compared to Eve's economy it won't hit that point tho. If your point was you could generate inflation by converting PLEX you are wrong, because its just taking the ISK that already is in game.

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