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WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.27 12:03:00 -
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Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
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gfldex
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Posted - 2010.10.27 12:09:00 -
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Lets say it's common.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.27 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
In EVE it's legal cheating.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.10.27 13:08:00 -
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The only one you are cheating is yourself, by being able to afford ships you can't fly properly. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real! |

WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.27 13:10:00 -
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Why not just buy a character as well?
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cyno troll
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Posted - 2010.10.27 13:17:00 -
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Please stop feeding the troll.
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WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.27 13:20:00 -
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I really don't get the negativity here. I'm asking some reasonable question, yet few people are answering satisfactorily. Perhaps those with negative attitudes should rethink before they post - putting off new players can not be healthy for the game.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.27 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny I really don't get the negativity here. I'm asking some reasonable question, yet few people are answering satisfactorily. Perhaps those with negative attitudes should rethink before they post - putting off new players can not be healthy for the game.
I'd say the plex thing speaks for itself? It has only 1 use and it's an official CCP product, how can it be cheating?
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.27 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Why not just buy a character as well?
I see you missed this in your other thread.
Originally by: Alara IonStorm Do it we need more Honor Tanks!
Just so I am not all cryptic the term comes from a newb who bought a bunch of Plex then bought a Character, He was accepted into an Alliance w/o them knowing this and took a faction fit nightmare to an 0.4 camped by a Supercarrier.
He then yelled in teamspeak that his Honor was hurt and needed avenging, he took a Revelations Dread with all cargo expanders in the lows and attacked the Super alone. He then complained that his Alliance who's Sov and Fleet thirty jumps away did not defend his honor by getting there in 5 min to take out an irrelavent to them 0.4 camp because he was an idiot.
When they saw the mail they freaked and kicked him and the guy who recommended him, and we got a new Meme. So go ahead and buy ISK see where it gets you!
This has been an Alara certified cautionary tale!
Player Skill > Skill Points, learn the game before you spend RL money and rage quit.
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.27 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Alara IonStorm Player Skill > Skill Points, learn the game before you spend RL money and rage quit.
What's against spending RL money and ragequitting? 
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.10.27 15:01:00 -
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not cheating but you'll end up loosing a lot more RL cash than if you try and play the game proerly --
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WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.27 15:13:00 -
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Posted on another thread - it may be of interest here.
Luckily we have a reference: PLEX. Plex currently trades for around 350M ISK Plex is one month of gameplay. Bought in batches of 6, each plex costs 17.5 Euros.
Therefore: 1BN ISK = 3 months of gameplay = Eur 50 10BN ISK = 4 years and 9 months of gameplay = Eur 500 100BN = 24 years of gameplay = Eur 5000
So if you have 100BN spare, you can play EVE for free for the next 24 years.
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Culmen
Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.10.27 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Posted on another thread - it may be of interest here.
Luckily we have a reference: PLEX. Plex currently trades for around 350M ISK Plex is one month of gameplay. Bought in batches of 6, each plex costs 17.5 Euros.
Therefore: 1BN ISK = 3 months of gameplay = Eur 50 10BN ISK = 4 years and 9 months of gameplay = Eur 500 100BN = 24 years of gameplay = Eur 5000
So if you have 100BN spare, you can play EVE for free for the next 24 years.
woul you be transporting that isk by kestrel.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.10.27 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Why not just buy a character as well?
The only one you are cheating is yourself, by being able to sit in ships you can't fly properly. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real! |

Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.10.27 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
Originally by: WMunny Why not just buy a character as well?
The only one you are cheating is yourself, by being able to sit in ships you can't fly properly.
Some may say it's preferable to waiting for a year to be able to fly those ships in the first place.
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Lenda Roush
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Posted - 2010.10.27 16:40:00 -
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I didn't buy a character or isk (at least not yet) because I wanted to make my own way in the game.
Literally speaking, it's obviously not cheating since it's endorsed by the game company. But for some players it's a little bit like entering a cheat code, so we try to avoid it. That isn't to say the game is ruined by cheating, but why not give it a go playing legit for a while first? (My opinions)
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.27 16:50:00 -
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I have spent RL cash on Plex for the purpose of selling them once (actually pretty recently) but not to afford something I couldn't fly - it was to use as an initial investment in a project which (hopefully) will yield far greater returns in terms of being able to buy plex (with ISK) in the future to pay for my account on a more or less continuous basis.
I call it prudent investing, not cheating. --Vel
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.10.27 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin I have spent RL cash on Plex for the purpose of selling them once (actually pretty recently) but not to afford something I couldn't fly - it was to use as an initial investment in a project which (hopefully) will yield far greater returns in terms of being able to buy plex (with ISK) in the future to pay for my account on a more or less continuous basis.
I call it prudent investing, not cheating.
I can pay off a credit card with another credit card 
-- I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente The Executives IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.27 17:13:00 -
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I used to sell PLEXs back when I had the RL money to do it. It was a decent way of making quick isk. If you don't waste it on worthless ships or have to replace ships common you shouldn't have to sell very many PLEX's to be comfortable. Most people prefer players to make their isk via ingame methods, but in the end its all personal preference. _____ When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always ascertain the vintage of the first two.
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Ragnar256
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.27 17:33:00 -
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If you wanna try the bigger ships, try the Singularity server.
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WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.27 17:43:00 -
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All is fair in love and war. I'm now stacked up.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
No, it is completely within the rules, therefore it is not cheating.
Depending on what kind of player you are, it may or may not be a good idea in terms of you enjoying the game more. Having a wedge of cash sounds awesome on the face of it, but establishing an income and gaining the skills to get it is one of the primary challenges a new player faces. Potentially you are depriving yourself of gameplay opportunity.
In short: it's up to you to decide.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |

WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: WMunny on 27/10/2010 19:14:40 On the other hand it seems the only sensible way for new players to get a good foothold in the game.
Quite clearly, the plan for new players should be as follows: Open account. Buy 2 x PLEX Sell PLEX for around 700M. Train cybernetics to Level 1. Buy some Lowgrade implants in each slot. Train cybernetics up to level 5 asap. Buy the +5 implants. Train all the learning skills, and the advanced learning skills.
Continue.
In the meantime, the new player can then run around doing missions and getting used to New Eden, without having to worry about stopping to pick up salvage/mine/etc. In other words, do all the interesting stuff at the cost of 2 months' subscription.
I'm surprised this is not the recommended route.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny I'm surprised this is not the recommended route.
You are probably quite correct in saying that this is the optimal route. I would shuffle the learning skills around and before Cybernetics, so that Cybernetics itself trains faster. Use EVEmon to determine the optimal order.
However, it has several downsides to someone just starting in EVE. Even disregarding the bad stigma of paying out of game money for in game items, you might end up paying a non-trivial amount for a game you decide isn't worth it in a few days/weeks. If the very first thing you train are learning skills to any significant level, you will not be able to do much else in game for the first few weeks. Last, starting with a lot of (liquid) ISK takes away some charm out of the first steps into the world, and with that the player also skips the entire process of training, learning how to make ISK, and getting used to losses.
That being said, this is all one huge sandbox. What works for one person might not work for someone else. If you're confident you're staying for a long time, and if you're willing to commit to your plan, by all means go ahead. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real! |

Tranka Verrane
Mentors Administration
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Posted - 2010.10.27 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Edited by: WMunny on 27/10/2010 19:14:40 On the other hand it seems the only sensible way for new players to get a good foothold in the game.
Quite clearly, the plan for new players should be as follows: Open account. Buy 2 x PLEX Sell PLEX for around 700M. Train cybernetics to Level 1. Buy some Lowgrade implants in each slot. Train cybernetics up to level 5 asap. Buy the +5 implants. Train all the learning skills, and the advanced learning skills.
Continue.
In the meantime, the new player can then run around doing missions and getting used to New Eden, without having to worry about stopping to pick up salvage/mine/etc. In other words, do all the interesting stuff at the cost of 2 months' subscription.
I'm surprised this is not the recommended route.
This, please. Um, some of us need people to sell plexes. Please stop dissuading people from doing so. The cost has been soaring recently.
__________________________________________________ Player Since 2005 Over 4000 hours logged
For ingame help and advice join channel 'Mentors'.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.28 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 28/10/2010 00:41:09
Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Originally by: De'Veldrin I have spent RL cash on Plex for the purpose of selling them once (actually pretty recently) but not to afford something I couldn't fly - it was to use as an initial investment in a project which (hopefully) will yield far greater returns in terms of being able to buy plex (with ISK) in the future to pay for my account on a more or less continuous basis.
I call it prudent investing, not cheating.
I can pay off a credit card with another credit card 
If the card your using to pay off the first card has a lower interest rate, that actually makes good financial sense. You'll save money in the long run.
Also edit for spelling and clarification. --Vel
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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.28 09:40:00 -
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The Question has a few answers
1. No its not cheating, it is within the rules and intended
2. It is no pure ingame mechanic its "metagaming" so there might be people viewing it as a kind of "cheat"
3. It is a mechanic with 2 sides: You sell gametime for ISK so someone gets to play gametime you paid for whileyou get his ISK. Its in an ingame sense "fair" as it allows people to play to game without paying Real Money so....its not really cheating as it hurts nobody.
4. It allows people to do with their time ingame what they want. If they hate grinding ISK they can get ISK for PLEX which enhances their fun....so is that cheating? I dont think so.
I do not sell PLEX for ISK myself (and their price is too high ingame to use them for gametime imho) but I dont think its cheating. Buying ISK for Real money from RMT IS cheating though. As RMT hack accounts and macrorat/mine whatever to get the ISK to sell it "hurts" the game in a away.
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Creepy CousinRoger
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Posted - 2010.10.28 15:11:00 -
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I'm waiting for the threads this guy is gonna start when he loses everything 
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WMunny
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Posted - 2010.10.28 15:56:00 -
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Do you really think that would bother me? I'd just buy more ISK. It's dirt cheap at the moment. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |

DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2010.10.28 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
Nope.
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Xcellers
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.28 16:03:00 -
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Well i did it - ive played for a bit over a month on this run and during my first two weeks i went off to activate to a full account and then buy a 60d TC - received a fair amount of cash for it and was quite happy in doing so.
however, i do not fly anything stupid, currently my wallet is at a stable 550m after buying a very nice fittet cruiser, implants and skills. - dont believe im flying anything i shouldn't fly, im well beyond the recommended certifications and have no trouble what so ever with my missions.
this has lead me to be able to play a bit smarter than i would have otherwise been able to, i have all the skills i need to do my missions, im almost done with my learnings, and soon ill be able to start work on progressing to bigger ship classes.
having a lump sum of isk, just means i can play the way i want, without having to worry too much about gear, cash and stuff like that - i can advance much more quickly than i would have been able too and i quite like that, as i cannot play the game as much as i want to :) -/ Xcellers |

Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2010.10.29 04:58:00 -
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Eh ... different people care about different things. It's just a game ... so ... *shrug*
For me ... I get a sense of accomplishment if I'm able to do something hard. If it's to easy - there's no sense of accomplishment.
That doesn't mean that every single time I bring a new character online - I fore go any help from my others. So there's some line drawing here.
Of course - for some people ... doing this is a terrible mistake. They have it to easy, don't learn how to make do, buy things THEY aren't ready to use and end up wasting a lot of their money. OK - so they go buy more plex. Are they going to just keep doing that? I mean ... OK ... so you buy any ship you want and train any skill. There are a lot more bigger ships and a lot more expensive skills. You get one and - there's always another. When does it end?
*shrug*
In the end - it's their money. I can't say that I've always spent mine wisely.
I don't think I'll do it. As I said, I get a greater sense of accomplishment by doing things myself - but what the hell ... I don't much give a damn what someone else does.
Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools |

Colfax Jones
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2010.10.29 16:11:00 -
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I don't think it's cheating, it's part of the game mechanic.
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hjgjgfgfgsj
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Posted - 2010.10.29 17:33:00 -
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Don't feel bad about it.
I've bought plexes a couple times, thats right I admit it, I just didnt feel ike sitting around grinding missions all day.
Eventually you'll be able to run lvl 4s and won't need to though.
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance

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Posted - 2010.10.29 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.29 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.
lol?
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.29 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.
Well, you heard it here first, folks. Selling your PLEX on the market is now against the EULA. --Vel
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.29 22:36:00 -
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Damned if that isn't sigworthy.
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.
Lolwut 
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N Ano
Caldari AN Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:15:00 -
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Rest assured CCP Adida is being ridiculed by her co-workers as we speak  ECM, Eves little genital warts. |

Saint Tetrimon
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.
Quoted for untruths.
Yes you can buy Plex and sell them for isk.
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Yonem
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Posted - 2010.10.30 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.
This thread just went epic. --- Adventures of a Planetologist http://eveboard.com/pilot/Yonem |

Unit562
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Posted - 2010.10.30 01:22:00 -
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ROFLMAO gotta love CCP people that dont read they're own website.
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.30 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.
Sure. Put the cuffs on me. But make sure it's the pink fuzzy ones you used last night 
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Vargo Breen
Damnable Carebears Externus Hostis
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.

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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.10.30 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.
Um, hey dip ****s, Adida is technically right.
You can't BUY isk with PLEX. If you do so, it must be an out of game purchase as you are only permitted to sell your PLEX as it stands now. I interpret the question and this answer to mean, you offer someone several plex for isk, but not through the Eve markets, so it is an out of game transaction.
I admit its a thin line, but a line none the less.
Best, Apollo
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CCP Applebabe

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Posted - 2010.10.30 05:05:00 -
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Buying PLEXes on our official website and selling them in-game for ISK is perfectly fine, even for new players.
However, purchasing ISK with real money is forbidden according to the EULA.
Applebabe Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.10.30 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo Gabriel
Originally by: CCP Adida
Originally by: WMunny Is it cheating for a new player to buy ISK using PLEX?
It's against the EULA and can be actioned by GMs.
Um, hey dip ****s, Adida is technically right.
You can't BUY isk with PLEX. If you do so, it must be an out of game purchase as you are only permitted to sell your PLEX as it stands now. I interpret the question and this answer to mean, you offer someone several plex for isk, but not through the Eve markets, so it is an out of game transaction.
I admit its a thin line, but a line none the less.
Best, Apollo
Yeah, stick it to the man... wait.
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2010.10.30 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Applebabe Buying PLEXes on our official website and selling them in-game for ISK is perfectly fine, even for new players.
However, purchasing ISK with real money is forbidden according to the EULA.
You can buy the GTC through other websites as well such as Battleclinic. Just make sure its reputable website that sells actual eve GTCs.Some peeps like to support their favorite sites( the site gets a small %).I think eve site has a list of authorized resellers somewhere...
While it dont seem to be much of a problem since the plexes came out, dont buy isk from isk buyers. Besides the good chance it may be a scam, CCP does catch isk buyers fairly often. And the penalty is a bit harsh especially after you invested a lot of time and money in the game.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.10.30 08:58:00 -
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Buying ISK using PLEX is not cheating.
Some people feel that it's "unfair" because they participate in the ISK grind. You know the type - grinding endless level 4 missions in a Drake to pay for their PvP ships, when they know full well that investing in a battleship will help them double their ISK/hr - nevermind harvesting datacores or playing the station trading game.
If they do it the hard way, they reason, you should do it the hard way too. Finding easier ways to make ISK means you're not "playing fair", where "fair" is defined as, "constrained by the same rules that I've invented for myself to play by" (such as "I must grind all my PvP ISK through missions and mining").
On the flip side, people who buy ISK using PLEX and then go getting their poorly fitted ships blown up due to their poorly developed PvP skills are - IMHO - actually playing EVE Online. EVE Online is a PvP MMO spaceship combat game (well, it's also an economics simulator and social network). Without foolish people with oodles of ships to blow up, there wouldn't be so many people to shoot.
I encourage more people to fund their PvP using PLEX. You get more joy out of the game since you won't be eternally grinding PvE missions (which are not everyone's cup of tea), which means you'll get a higher ratio of your game time activating offensive modules against enemies!
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MP Rhianna
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Posted - 2010.10.30 11:00:00 -
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It isn't cheating the game or anything but it is, depending on why/when you do it and to what extent, cheating yourself in a way.
Not going through really any effort of learning to make isk in the game or appreciating that you don't have 'enough' for this or that is cheating yourself of the growth experience of learning to manage your funds, dealing with what you need now and what can wait, ie consequences of buying this over that, etc.
I don't think anyone who buys/bought plex at some point is cheating but if you do it right away w/o dealing with any of the issues above and don't appreciate that other people/players might not be as fortunate as you to either buy plex and sell them with $ or just make isk you aren't much of a 'fellow' player. That actually fits in fine with how 'Eve' is because the nature is to screw over other players and treat them like **** until you are in a situation to mutually benefit each other in between screwing each other over.
As an example, I purchased isk once I had tried making isk, mining/missioning/manufacturing and had a sizeable amount at the time, joined a corp and shared in the benefits there. But I wanted to get the 'pressure' I put on myself to have more isk off and invest in future 'opportunities' BPOs, ships, skills, etc many of which I didn't need right now, so I bought plex sold one and hung onto the other one till I felt it was 'time' to sell it as well. I ended up not spending all of it on my investments as I had learned and put into place some decent isk making activities.
Any new player or current player is free to do as they please, it is just my opinion that they *rob* themselves of the experience of doing without or having to struggle at all. Eve is a big step from just about any game out there to just put on the 'easy mode' in my opinion does a disservice to yourself. Much like reading game guides/walkthroughs/etc give you tips/prior knowledge to figuring stuff out on your own or just trying this and that, having said that EVE really doesn't equate with guides/walkthroughs as so much is undocumented/non-intuitive in the game you do yourself a disservice NOT reading guides/walthroughs where other players have endeavored to explain things.
'Easy mode' in Eve to me is buying a character when you don't understand many key elements of game mechanics, don't know how to fit a ship properly, buy tons of isk without any plan or having spent any time 'trying' to make isk in game, as well as various other 'buying/paying' off other players for service/mentorship. Pretty much if you are skipping effort or the opportunities to learn and see how you do w/o 'easy mode'/training wheels you are IMO cheating yourself.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.30 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 30/10/2010 16:45:44 Edit: Nevermind --Vel
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Dr Lebroi
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Posted - 2010.10.30 20:04:00 -
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Plex or plex for isk is great.
It limits Real Money Trading, it allows players who have limited play time to buy their PVP ships rather than grinding for them, it allows new players to get a start and traders or investors to fund their schemes.
In short, PLEX brings a whole lot of flexibility to the way you choose to fund your playing lifestyle.
If you are rich in time but poor in real life money you can grind isk to buy playtime through plex, this helps the young, the poor and the unemployed. If you are well paid in real life but short of time due to your RL profession you can spend a very small amount of money to have fun in the game with the time you have.
Finally, plex buying makes Eve more profitable for CCP which protects its long term future.
PLEX = WIN - buy some now!
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debbie harrio
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Posted - 2010.10.31 22:55:00 -
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I look at it this way, It takes 7 hrs roughly to grind Lvl 4's to get 700 million Isk, it takes 1 hr of overtime to make enough money to buy a plex.
Although personally I have bought a plex in the past to fund a project and seem to be making good isk now but if I needed quick Isk injection that is the way I would do it.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.11.01 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: MP Rhianna It isn't cheating the game or anything but it is, depending on why/when you do it and to what extent, cheating yourself in a way.
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'Easy mode' in Eve to me is buying a character when you don't understand many key elements of game mechanics, don't know how to fit a ship properly, à Pretty much if you are skipping effort or the opportunities to learn and see how you do w/o 'easy mode'/training wheels you are IMO cheating yourself.
I concur - just you have enough money to buy a Formula 1 racing car, does not mean you can drive it properly. Of course in F1 you will be frowned upon because the aim of F1 is to avoid accidents. In EVE online, the aim of the game is to have as many accidents as possible, preferably being the survivor at the conclusion of the accident of course :)
While many in the EVE community may frown upon someone attempting to honor tank, I do not think they should be prevented from doing so simply because it offends someone else's e-bushido.
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