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Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.10.28 01:13:00 - [1] Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 01:17:12 Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 01:15:03 I'm still having issues with the mail system. While typing my mail client has a problem typing each letter. There seems to still be a leakage issue somewhere. Symptom: While typing an EVEMail my system seems to "stutter" as I type each letter and the game struggles to keep up to speed with my typing. DxDiag: http://fatalascension.com/uploaded/DxDiag.txt Display Setup Dither [OFF] Advanced Settings [ON] NVIDIA GeForce9800 GT 1 Windowed Mode 24-bit color (XBRBGBBB) 1600x1200 24-bit z-buffer Interval one Effects Turret Effects [ON] Effects [ON] Missile Effects [ON] Camera Shake [OFF] Ship Explosions [ON] Drone Models [OFF] Misc Use LOD [OFF] Sun is Occluded by Ships [OFF] Advanced Camera Menu [ON] Load Station Environment [ON] Graphic Content Settings Shadows Enabled [OFF] Resource Cache Enabled [OFF] HDR Enabled [OFF] Bloom [None] Shader Quality [High] Texture Quality [High] LOD Quality [Low] Chat logging disabled. System Specs MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Black Edition56 ¦C Brisbane 65nm Technology 4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz (5-5-5-18) BIOSTAR Group N68SA-M2T (Socket AM2 ) Generic Non-PnP Monitor @ 1600x1200 DELL P1130 @ 1600x1200 1024MB GeForce 9800 GT (PNY)68 ¦C 63GB KINGSTON SNV425S264GB ATA Device (IDE)41 ¦C 488GB Seagate ST3500320AS ATA Device (Unknown Interface)31 ¦C Creative Audigy Audio Processor (WDM)
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.10.28 01:19:00 - [2] Originally by: Breaker77 Originally by: Zagdul I'm still having issues with the mail system. I'll bet you 1 bil ISK that it is because the patch hasn't been released yet to fix it. note that there is no guarantee the patch tomorrow will actually fix it. No bet :p What version are we on now before the patch for Oct 28th? My current client is: 6.31.185699
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.10.28 11:33:00 - [3] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Zagdul Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 01:17:12 Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 01:15:03 I'm still having issues with the mail system. While typing my mail client has a problem typing each letter. There seems to still be a leakage issue somewhere. Symptom: While typing an EVEMail my system seems to "stutter" as I type each letter and the game struggles to keep up to speed with my typing. Unfortunately we are not yet comfortable with releasing the fix for this issue since it involves a lot of changes to the edit field. I understand you not being comfortable with releasing this yet as I'm sure there's a lot of fixes needed to get the mail client to interact properly with the new back end. However, mail in EVE when running a corporation is probably one of the most vital tools we have in game at our disposal. It's something we cannot live without and in it's current state, it's very broken, annoying and just plain painful to use. As a personal favor, can you bump this particular fix up on your priority list of things to do?
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.10.28 11:40:00 - [4] Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 11:44:27 Originally by: Lynn Deniera Originally by: Zagdul Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Zagdul Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 01:17:12 Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 01:15:03 I'm still having issues with the mail system. While typing my mail client has a problem typing each letter. There seems to still be a leakage issue somewhere. Symptom: While typing an EVEMail my system seems to "stutter" as I type each letter and the game struggles to keep up to speed with my typing. Unfortunately we are not yet comfortable with releasing the fix for this issue since it involves a lot of changes to the edit field. I understand you not being comfortable with releasing this yet as I'm sure there's a lot of fixes needed to get the mail client to interact properly with the new back end. However, mail in EVE when running a corporation is probably one of the most vital tools we have in game at our disposal. It's something we cannot live without and in it's current state, it's very broken, annoying and just plain painful to use. As a personal favor, can you bump this particular fix up on your priority list of things to do? It's annoying sure, but you can just as easily write it in evegate or notepad. The only issue is that it's almost impossible to link items in a mail now. Agreed, if the linking aspect could at least be fixed I think I'd be able to cope for a bit longer. I'm pretty patient as I know the whole core of the UI being replaced will break a lot. The UI being as complex and in such a dated state only makes it that much more open to breakage, this updated backend replacement was a long needed addition to EVE.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.10.28 11:54:00 - [5] Edited by: Zagdul on 28/10/2010 11:56:10 Originally by: Daedalus II Edited by: Daedalus II on 28/10/2010 11:53:13 @ Zagdul and Lynn Deniera Have you actually checked the client after the update? I'm at work and haven't checked it myself, but it sounds on Chribba in his post just a few posts above yours that the mail is now fixed. Also if you check the patch notes it says something about an edit control being fixed. Maybe CCP Bella Bee is wrong about that update being delayed? Edit: hm... apparently they have scratched that from the patch notes since I checked it last. But on the other hand they have instead fixed the overview duplicate bug Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Obsidian Hawk I get this bug regularly too, I undock and it gives me double gates, double stations etc. From my guess it has something to do with brackets. I say this because i have 2 overview tabs, one with brackets and one without and when i switch between the two the problem corrects itself. And this is what is technically known as useful information It might be useful information, but the conclusion is incorrect The overview always fix itself if you force it to update itself, ie when you a) click the active tab b) switch between tabs c) minimze and maximize it again. They removed the update from the patch. Read the notes, it's been struck out. EDIT: you caught it :p
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.10.28 12:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Dasola I see you still have character selection screens toon specifix text piled up with no brakes between letters... Seriously ccp how hard can it be to make simple fixes since you can test them so easy before release... Clearly devs are not playing the game and Q&A is on winter holiday or something... Well atleast wallet screens look readable again with properly layed in texts with spaces between letters... So could we stop this, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, Patchy, ..... thing? this start to remind sertain song im sure you nerds are very familiar with... Would you mind posting a screenshot of what you're talking about cause I haven't seen what you're talking about. Also, you really need to understand how big of a change and how much CCP has changed with the UI. Imagine you've got a house that's 10 years old. Every 6 months since you've owned this house, you've put an addition on and built your house up, left, right, put a deck on in the back yard... Now, with these additions, the rooms you've added are all different sizes, their walls don't line up with the floors below them and it's become unstable. Well, during all this expansion, you never upgraded your foundation. CCP has just added a new foundation and now needs to re-align the walls so the new additions are supported. This is a LOT of work. With the fact that they released it in as much of a working order as they did, I'm surprised more wasn't broken.
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.10.28 12:45:00 - [7] for any devs who are still reading this... up to 850MB and rising: http://www.fatalascension.com/uploaded/woahboy.png

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