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Julianus Soter Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2010.10.28 05:13:00 - [1] Edited by: Julianus Soter on 28/10/2010 05:17:58 On behalf of Moira. [AISA] and our allies, I wanted to make this statement. Speaking as a former leader of FDU forces in Placid and Verge Vendor, I have come to realize that the true enemy of the Federation is not some Caldari megaconglomerate leader, or any theocratic empress. It is the Nation, as demonstrated by the Ishaeka reports we acquired from the Inner Circle of CONCORD. CONCORD conducted task-force scale operations not sanctioned by the five empires, and did not inform humanity of the threat Nation posed, until after Nation began invading sovereign space. The role of the Inner Circle has shifted over the years since CONCORD's inception. Rather than be a representative body of the five empires, it has become a Central Committee, a cabal of high-ranking CONCORD officials and career enforcers, with no sense of perspective or attachment to the greater body of humanity. This shortsightedness has brought us to this moment. A resurgent Sansha's Nation, marshaling forces to Kuvakei's command. A foe making such quantum advancements in technology and military doctrine that it has managed to do more damage than the entirety of the Elder Invasion at the start of the Empyrean Wars, a colossal effort which took the Elders years to prepare for. And all of this done in abject silence from those in 'authority'. The gross negligence of CONCORD, and the clear and present danger Sansha Kuvakei poses to all of our peoples, makes the necessity of a new Coalition clear. A Coalition, not of empires, but of capsuleers, not divided by creed, race, or religion, but bound together for a greater purpose. The survival of the human species. This is not the time for petty governmental games. What is required now is a demonstration of strength, a message to Kuvakei himself. We, capsuleers, volunteer our selves freely to serve as the roadblock to Kuvakei and his minions. Thus far, and no farther. Patriotism is not something exhibited by winning medals or wasting lives needlessly in a stalemate. Patriotism is doing what is right for one's country. And the truest sense patriotism, at this time, is to stand together, undivided, to defend humanity against the threat posed by Kuvakei. Julianus Soter, CEO, Moira. [AISA]
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.10.28 05:23:00 - [2] Well, the relative success of this effort could serve as an interesting test of Aria Jenneth's hypothesis on capsuleer-human separateness. ___ Latest video: Future Proof (720p) 2D Animator
Drake Arson Minmatar The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.28 05:24:00 - [3] Good luck on getting enough people who don't want rewards.
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui	Posted - 2010.10.28 12:00:00 - [4] Appealing to a capsuleer's good nature? I think you're being optimistic to the point of fantasy. Appeal to their wallets instead, it works better. Except CONCORD already got that one covered with their apparently unlimited bounties budget. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Che Biko Humanitarian Communists	Posted - 2010.10.28 14:42:00 - [5] Originally by: Julianus Soter [..]bound together for a greater purpose. The survival of the human species.[..]
Sinjin Mokk Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2010.10.28 14:42:00 - [6] I find myself agreeing with General Soter on several points. That the Nation has committed acts of piracy and terrorism against all of our people is without question. Indeed, the severity of these attacks can be easily defined as war crimes and crimes against humanity of a sort that can only be defined as attempted genocide. Concord still pays out bounties for Nation ships in low and high-sec, but turns a blind eye to policing the new capsuleer element that the Nation has brought to bear. Despite overwhelming evidence that these Nation-sponsored capsuleers are directly tied to the Nation, Concord refuses to classify them as criminals. In fact, Concord protects these people by mandating that we must pay Concord for the ôrightö to defend ourselves against them. Failure to pay Concord will result in Concord ships using deadly force against the very people who are trying to defend the sovereign rights of their own governments and their own innocent civilians. We of the Kingdom of Khanid will have none of it. Last week, two capsuleers loyal to the Nation were discovered committing acts of espionage in the Vezila system. The spies were given more than one opportunity to surrender themselves. They refused and during their escape attempt a combined group of Khanid ships were able to shoot down one and force the other to flee into null-sec. This was done despite a loss of standing with Concord. In short, we of the Khanid Provincial Vanguard and other corporations loyal to our King will not sit idly by while Nation capsuleers hide behind the skirts of Concord rules of engagement. ANY Nation-supporter discovered in Khanid space will face immediate arrest. Any attempt to escape or commit acts of piracy or terrorism or espionage will be met with deadly force. We will not pay Concord for the right to defend our people. Khanid will retain itÆs sovereignty. We strongly caution Concord ships and crews to deeply consider their actions if they try to protect Nation ships in our high and low-sec systems. We will not open hostilities against Concord ships, but we WILL defend our people. While a combined force such as General Soter suggests may prove difficult to put together, we urge the corporations and militias loyal to their respective governments to adopt a similar zero-tolerance policy. Sir Sinjin Mokk, Ambassador to the Realm of Khanid II and His Most Royal Provincial Vanguard. Serving the Dark Amarr
Rek Jaiga Minmatar True Slave Foundations	Posted - 2010.10.28 16:52:00 - [7] So wait, basically what you're saying is you want to destroy certain human lives to save others? Yes, that makes perfect sense. Because as long as the people you're killing aren't under your flag, it's acceptable, yes? Seriously, you'd think as a species overall we'd be more mature than this.
Aldrith Shutaq Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.10.28 16:59:00 - [8] As always the Knighthood offers its services. Simply tell me what must be done and I will rally my pilots.
Koronakesh Amarr Ba.theen Aljannatal Asaakitah	Posted - 2010.10.29 03:25:00 - [9] While not part of Mr. Soter's coalition initiative, we're doing our part to suppress activities of Nation capsuleers via our on-going declaration of war against True Slave Foundations. This is a threat against which we can all find some degree of solidarity in.
Boma Airaken White Song Celestial Imperative	Posted - 2010.10.29 06:16:00 - [10] Once again the problem with good ideas and attainable goals being presented here rears its ugly head. You can't present them without a bunch of troglodytes giving you a fedo **** shower. I am thinking maybe Aria was right. We are screwed. If there is anything I can do to be of use Julianus, let me know.

Rek Jaiga Minmatar True Slave Foundations	Posted - 2010.10.29 06:47:00 - [11] Edited by: Rek Jaiga on 29/10/2010 06:49:28 Originally by: Sinjin Mokk Despite overwhelming evidence that these Nation-sponsored capsuleers are directly tied to the Nation [/quote Except, we're not directly tied nor sponsored by Nation. Nation ships fire even on us if we hang around a gate or belt for too long. Like most capsuleers who support a certain nation, we do so without the official commission of that Nation.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.10.29 09:50:00 - [12] Edited by: Borza Slavak on 29/10/2010 09:51:58 Originally by: Rek Jaiga So wait, basically what you're saying is you want to destroy certain human lives to save others? Yes, that makes perfect sense. Because as long as the people you're killing aren't under your flag, it's acceptable, yes? It's a matter of killing slavers to protect the freedom of others, race-traitor.
StalinGrad6 Gallente Black Mesa Mavericks	Posted - 2010.10.29 10:28:00 - [13] We are ready. We are willing. We are able. Were out for blood. Call on us Soter, We are the Frontline. Death to Sansha. Nothing else but Death. I Am War. I Am Industry. I Am Power.
Andre Ricard Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2010.10.29 10:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Drake Arson Good luck on getting enough people who don't want rewards. There are, thankfully, a few of us around. That said, I doubt anyone involved with Moira right now anticipates this being anything but a long and lonely campaign; while we hope we'd get some aid in protecting known civilization against a man who wants to turn it into a cybernetic nightmare, we know that most capsuleers are going to pursue profit first. We'll do what we can no matter how many people we have behind us, though. ----- Character back under original management.
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2010.10.29 11:46:00 - [15] Scare mongering of the highest order. You are giving these terrorist fanatics exactly what they want. By creating an environment of fear, you are passing power and control to them. By creating an environment of fear, you are encouraging these mass suicides to take place. By creating an environment of fear, you only make things worse. The irony of this is that this "fear culture" is exactly what created the Black Eagles, and allows them free reign over the Federation. Gods help you if you're playing into their hands; with each passing day, it looks exactly like that. ------------ Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores Eleutherian Guard [FDU]
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.10.29 12:18:00 - [16] The Sansha are slavers. They are taking our people in these attacks. There is no other reason needed to oppose them.
Chell Charon	Posted - 2010.10.29 14:41:00 - [17] Originally by: Sinjin Mokk I find myself agreeing with General Soter on several points That the Nation has committed acts of piracy and terrorism against all of our people is without question. Indeed, the severity of these attacks can be easily defined as war crimes and crimes against humanity of a sort that can only be defined as attempted genocide. False and blatant attempt at whitewash propaganda. Nation has at no point committed acts of piracy nor terrorism. This is war, albeit not one of our capsuleer wars with CONCORD constraints, but one between sovereign states. Only one side of this conflict is guilty of attempted genocide. Pilot Mokk, do you need to be reminded of the war crimes committed by Amarr Empire against Nation? As for crimes against humanity? Regions of civilians killed and enslaved during a war of aggression against... Sansha's Nation, by... Oh, by those screaming in protest to very limited military operations and evacuation of civilians on request. It should be telling that EoM capsuleer loyalists are siding with you against Nation loyalist corporations... Citizen Charon.
Koronakesh Amarr Ba.theen Aljannatal Asaakitah	Posted - 2010.10.29 14:49:00 - [18] Originally by: Chell Charon It should be telling that EoM capsuleer loyalists are siding with you against Nation loyalist corporations... Citizen Charon. Mr. Mokk knows from personal experience I'm all too happy to shoot him as well if the opportunity provides. Don't try to make yourselves out to be more special than you are. You're just first in line right now.
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2010.10.29 14:59:00 - [19] I might correct M Charon that there is no "evacuation of civilians on request". People are committing mass suicide because they do not wish to be "evacuated" by Sansha. Moreover, people are committing mass suicide because of the mass fear generated by Glorious Leader Julianus Soter and his Coalition. Sansha's Nation are a threat, yes, but only slightly more than they were years ago. ------------ Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores Eleutherian Guard [FDU]
Akrasjel Lanate Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2010.10.29 15:06:00 - [20] Edited by: Akrasjel Lanate on 29/10/2010 15:07:59 Fear is just a state of mind You attract to your reality what you fear the most.

Chell Charon	Posted - 2010.10.29 15:52:00 - [21] Originally by: Koronakesh Originally by: Chell Charon It should be telling that EoM capsuleer loyalists are siding with you against Nation loyalist corporations... Citizen Charon. Mr. Mokk knows from personal experience I'm all too happy to shoot him as well if the opportunity provides. Don't try to make yourselves out to be more special than you are. You're just first in line right now. I am certain we didn't get bumped up on your priority list because you think were out and about genociding people. That would seem counterproductive to publicly available philosophy. Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores I might correct M Charon that there is no "evacuation of civilians on request". People are committing mass suicide because they do not wish to be "evacuated" by Sansha. Moreover, people are committing mass suicide because of the mass fear generated by Glorious Leader Julianus Soter and his Coalition. Sansha's Nation are a threat, yes, but only slightly more than they were years ago. Care to tell me how any of that is the fault of Nation? Just because your governments prefer to use us as the propaganda piece to scare your subjects straight. Doing a decent telling of the ye olde "the Monster will come and eat you if you don't behave"? -It's not Nations fault that your people are being lied to. Mass suicides indeed. Did you notice how even the article stated that there were no Nation assets anywhere in the vicinity? -So again, how exactly is it in any way or form our fault? I also noticed how they were sold the suicide pills for that specific purpose. Instead of say, getting a security and extraction plan in place. So exactly why, how and what are we responsible here? For not evacuating people who did not want to be evacuated? For telling them wild stories about other people with whom we are at war? For failing to keep your people safe from their governments failures? -Seriously? Next you all will be blaming us about entropy... Citizen Charon.
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2010.10.29 16:11:00 - [22] You have ignored the fact that individuals are still not being willingly evacuated. The ends do not justify the means. As you have said, if this is a full-on war, then you are the enemy. Since you are on the offensive, we are the defenders, and so far have the "moral high ground", even if morality is one of the first casaulties in war. Continue to selectively deafen yourself to the fact Sansha's Nation is a massive vehicle for Kuvakei's megalomania. At least I am not blind to the failings of my own country. In fact, perhaps you might endeavour to consider a move to the Federation. We have been exercising the ideology of "the Promised Land" for over two centuries. There are successes, and there are failures. But if we didn't have people to try and fix the failures, we wouldn't have got where we were, would we? ------------ Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores Eleutherian Guard [FDU]
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2010.10.29 16:43:00 - [23] Quite the accusation to make, when you claim to summarily conduct executions of 'suspected' traitors and Sansha spies in the name of the Black Eagles, Seriphyn Inhonores. What capsuleers can provide, instead of fear, death, and destruction, is hope. We can change the perspective our kin have of us, forever, if we make our stand against Nation. Of course, we don't do it for that reason alone, as an effort of rehabilitating our public image. Kuvakei's menace is leveled against capsuleers and non-capsuleers alike. We fight for the future of humanity as a whole. Sansha's Nation's slaves and drones are dead. The people they once were, were killed and destroyed upon assimilation into Nation. They were, as Ghost Hunter says, reborn. . . but reborn as empty husks, filled with transplanted thoughts, memories, skills, chosen by Kuvakei and his minions. The True Slaves, those that Nation has made field commanders of their invasions, such as Heavenbound02, a spliced-together homunculus of unnatural design, are granted enough leeway to communicate verbally. The rest are not so lucky. The True Citizens, such as Citizen Astur, are the shadows of the Utopia. They're the oligarchy behind the Slaves, the ones who are granted creativity, in addition to communication ability. They are still Nation. They are still enemies of the rest of humanity, much like the EoM or other terrorist groups. In this case, my personal and professional conscience is at ease destroying every Nation vessel I see in space, regardless of circumstances. Kuvakei, the Paragon Soul behind Nation, is an enemy of mankind, and will use any and every weapon at his disposal, including the Slaves and Citizens, to wage his war. We should grant him no quarter in New Eden, now, or in the future. Those killed thus far in this war call out from the void, demanding justice. And Moira and her allies will answer, whatever the True Slave Foundation or Mr. Seriphyn Inhonores have to say on the matter.
Rek Jaiga Minmatar True Slave Foundations	Posted - 2010.10.29 16:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Borza Slavak It's a matter of killing slavers to protect the freedom of others, race-traitor. Race-traitor? I served the Republic well and made it to the rank of Blade Commander. You've no idea how many lives I've taken in the name of the Minmatar people. But now I see past the walls of racial thinking and serve all of humanity, in my own way. Originally by: StalinGrad6 Death to Sansha. Nothing else but Death. Have you been taking EoM pills this morning? I mean if you're so committed to the path of genocide of an entire Nation, I must say you're insane. Indiscriminately exterminating billions of lives as you would like is psychopathy of the highest degree.
Arvo Katsuya Caldari True Slave Foundations	Posted - 2010.10.29 17:02:00 - [25] And you wonder why Koronakesh is on your side.
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2010.10.29 17:03:00 - [26] Originally by: Arvo Katsuya And you wonder why Koronakesh is on your side. As far as I know, Koronakesh is on his own side.
Arvo Katsuya Caldari True Slave Foundations	Posted - 2010.10.29 17:08:00 - [27] Originally by: Julianus Soter Originally by: Arvo Katsuya And you wonder why Koronakesh is on your side. As far as I know, Koronakesh is on his own side. Oh, I disagree.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.10.29 17:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Rek Jaiga Originally by: Borza Slavak It's a matter of killing slavers to protect the freedom of others, race-traitor. Race-traitor? I served the Republic well and made it to the rank of Blade Commander. You've no idea how many lives I've taken in the name of the Minmatar people. But now I see past the walls of racial thinking and serve all of humanity, in my own way. You are supporting those who have enslaved millions of our people. Fighting the Amarrian slavers in the past does not give you the right to support Sansha slavers with impunity. WE come for our people. You have betrayed them.
Kybernetes Moros Amarr True Slave Foundations	Posted - 2010.10.29 17:53:00 - [29] Edited by: Kybernetes Moros on 29/10/2010 17:54:37 Originally by: Arvo Katsuya Originally by: Julianus Soter Originally by: Arvo Katsuya And you wonder why Koronakesh is on your side. As far as I know, Koronakesh is on his own side. Oh, I disagree. Odd; so do I.
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira.	Posted - 2010.10.29 19:10:00 - [30] Edited by: Julianus Soter on 29/10/2010 19:16:00 Originally by: Kybernetes Moros Edited by: Kybernetes Moros on 29/10/2010 17:54:37 Odd; so do I. Let me get this straight, you're saying I work with Koronakesh, an EoM cultist, because Mr. Inhonores's corporation was spotted in the same area of space, camping the same station, as Koronakesh? The same Seriphyn Inhonores that called me a fearmonger? Someone needs to upgrade the TS-F logic processors. laughs



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