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Aessoroz
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Posted - 2010.10.29 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: Aessoroz on 29/10/2010 01:26:35
Edited by: Aessoroz on 29/10/2010 01:21:41
http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=system_detail&sys_id=2560
Proof that CCP does nothing about macros. (Because people really run around in industrials in noob corps in massive quantities in a low sec system) |
Running missions
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Posted - 2010.10.29 01:23:00 -
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when u camp that gate you camp
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Ejit
Amarr
The Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.29 02:41:00 -
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And they nearly all carry exotic dancers, or holoreels. Pretty conclusive evidence if you ask me.
You'd think these macro's would be clever enough to avoid lo sec by now.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.10.29 03:03:00 -
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Ingunn has 4 level 20 courier agents. It's always full of macros - there just aren't enough bored pirates to keep them unprofitable, I guess.
Whenever I want to burn some sec status, I go there and kill a few. But, I like to remain in positive sec status, so these expeditions are rare. I've considered making an alt and going full -10 on it just to kill these buggers myself, but that would take too much skill training time off my main.
But yeah, Ingunn is the place if you want to kill some cheaters.
In before they could totally be legit players OMG how can you say macros, macros don't exist in EVE
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.29 03:05:00 -
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Nothing new, macros have been doing this for a while now, we found a run of them in Sotrenzur (0.3 system) about a year ago and killed 5 of them before moving on.
The problem is the macros use warp to 0 scripts, because it's low sec and you have to deal with guns you can't use small, fast locking ships or bubbles to catch them, plus some carry a WCS or two. As you can see that doesn't make it impossible, only annoying. Combined with the low cost of haulers (you'll notices most of those bestowers weren't even fitted in the mid/high), and the benefits far outweigh the costs of running through lowsec.
It would be nice to see CCP actively hunt down these guys 
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.29 03:10:00 -
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I'm equally skeptical of people who think everyone is using macros and those who think no one is.
Actual players are fully capable of using cheap ships to run courier missions in lowsec, and word might have gotten out among a group of people that's a good place to do it.
There's no way to be 100% sure either way.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.10.29 03:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I'm equally skeptical of people who think everyone is using macros and those who think no one is.
Actual players are fully capable of using cheap ships to run courier missions in lowsec, and word might have gotten out among a group of people that's a good place to do it.
There's no way to be 100% sure either way.
hahaha
Yeah, I'm sure a whole lot of 15 day old players with names that have lots of numbers in them all just decided to use identical ships in the same system using almost no fittings and not changing their behavior even if they get blown up repeatedly by the same GCC player at the same spot over and over. Or, could be macros. Who's to say?!
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.29 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Yeah, I'm sure a whole lot of 15 day old players with names that have lots of numbers in them
With the exception of QQQ38 the names are pretty realistic.
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all just decided to use identical ships
There's quite a variety of ships.
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almost no fittings
They're running courier missions in lowsec. Not many fittings needed for that, and they probably expect to get blown up now and then and just lose any modules.
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and not changing their behavior even if they get blown up repeatedly by the same GCC player at the same spot over and over.
I don't see the same people getting blown up over and over.
All i'm saying is it's easy to jump to conclusions when you already think macros are lurking around every corner. Confirmation bias and all that.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.10.29 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Yeah, I'm sure a whole lot of 15 day old players with names that have lots of numbers in them
With the exception of QQQ38 the names are pretty realistic.
We can disagree on how realistic a name lucy257 or whatever is, and all the rest. How about how they tend to be one or two month old players. Or why so many in the same system. Or why they all behave the same. I see you have no answer to any of that.
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There's quite a variety of ships.
Bestower, Mammoth = variety?
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They're running courier missions in lowsec. Not many fittings needed for that, and they probably expect to get blown up now and then and just lose any modules.
Have you ever known a human player who rolls with one or two cargo expanders fitted, and that's it? Like you said, this is lowsec. Might as well at least fit some tank a/o speed mods.
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I don't see the same people getting blown up over and over.
Well, I've been in Ingunn, and I certainly have.
It's ridiculous to not "jump to conclusions" when a given conclusion is 99.9999 percent likely.
I mean, are you serious? Are you seriously saying these guys might not be macros?
The sun might rise tomorrow, it might not. There's no sense jumping to conclusions!
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.29 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 29/10/2010 04:35:35
I think my perspective comes from mining in this game for awhile, and having people like yourself conclude i was using macros on a daily basis, because i remained still while mining and didn't chat in local.
If i hadn't been on the other side of things, and seen so many people be wrong, i too might easily jump to conclusions.
My Warmest Regards.
Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
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Akira Kurosaw
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Posted - 2010.10.29 05:08:00 -
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haulers are dead ships anyway, why fit any thing unless necessary
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.10.29 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 29/10/2010 04:35:35
I think my perspective comes from mining in this game for awhile, and having people like yourself conclude i was using macros on a daily basis, because i remained still while mining and didn't chat in local.
If i hadn't been on the other side of things, and seen so many people be wrong, i too might easily jump to conclusions.
Sorry the people on forums hurt your feelings once, but before jumping to conclusions in the other (wrong) direction, go to the undock of Ingunn V - Moon 19 - Republic Justice Department and tell me those aren't macros.
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Ovella
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Posted - 2010.10.29 06:01:00 -
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*shrugs* what did you expect? CCP stated few times that "unholy rage" never ended... if you, by chance, understood that differently than "we didn't have time to finish the job" now you know better  |
Ran Khanon
Amarr
Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.10.29 06:21:00 -
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Well you could always dec. Some of them are not in an NPC corp. Like these guys. (Idreamcorp? I asleep? I afk? I macro? How insultingly obvious that name.) Or these. They might all hop to a noob corp though. V_V
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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.10.29 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Aessoroz
Edited by: Aessoroz on 29/10/2010 01:26:35
Edited by: Aessoroz on 29/10/2010 01:21:41
http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=system_detail&sys_id=2560
Proof that CCP does nothing about macros. (Because people really run around in industrials in noob corps in massive quantities in a low sec system)
Ahh, good old Ingunn. The destination of choice for any pilot seeking that illustrious badge of honour: "-10.0"
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Eyeama Spy
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Posted - 2010.10.29 09:28:00 -
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I understand that the next incursion expansion is designed to deal with macro bots....sancha incursions wont just appear in radom systems, they will be seeded by ccp in systems with the highest concentration of macros.
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Lubomir Penev
Sausages of Truth
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Posted - 2010.10.29 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Ingunn has 4 level 20 courier agents. It's always full of macros - there just aren't enough bored pirates to keep them unprofitable, I guess.
Whenever I want to burn some sec status, I go there and kill a few. But, I like to remain in positive sec status, so these expeditions are rare. I've considered making an alt and going full -10 on it just to kill these buggers myself, but that would take too much skill training time off my main.
I have a Drake alt with 1.2M sp that is enough to one or two volley them and tank sentries a decent amount of time, pretty quick train.
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Stygian Knight
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.29 10:42:00 -
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Ingunn have always been known as bonus level
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Cone Filler
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Posted - 2010.10.29 10:49:00 -
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i visited that system many moons ago
And if you camp their station long enough they will spawn battleships
triple sensor boosting bs should make quick work of the macros
Allthough i must add that after the last Unholy Rage the system was empty, go figure 
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Darod Zyree
Gallente
Zyree Holding
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Posted - 2010.10.29 10:51:00 -
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I dont think CCP needs more ban to proof this player, right?
-Darod- |
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.10.29 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
I'm equally skeptical of people who think everyone is using macros and those who think no one is.
Actual players are fully capable of using cheap ships to run courier missions in lowsec, and word might have gotten out among a group of people that's a good place to do it.
There's no way to be 100% sure either way.
Lawl.
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Buga Buga
Haita de lupi
ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2010.10.29 10:54:00 -
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Nerf botting, it causes lag1!!1
I'm a "Shoot me I suck" specialist. |
HoneY pOt
Amarr
Eve Game Card Co
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Posted - 2010.10.29 11:15:00 -
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There have been botters and macros since this game was released, nothing has changed, i remember hearing about sophisticated scripts back in the early days of 03, that would do everything for you, It was and still is a major problem.
Eve is unique in mmo's in that we have non-consensual pvp and as players we can do something about it, its not as much a problem as it is in pretty much all the other major pay to play mmo's where they only have conselsual pvp.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.29 11:21:00 -
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Quit whining start shooting.
If you covet your sec status buy a neg sec character for a couple of bill. Sheesh.
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Companion Trollin
You are going too fast
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Posted - 2010.10.29 11:23:00 -
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Get them to faction fit their haulers and I'll be impressed.
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Off-topic posts dealing with sexual orientation have been removed. Please keep this discussion on-topic.
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Vendelle
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Posted - 2010.10.29 11:36:00 -
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I petitioned this very thing of macro haulers in Amarr low sec areas. CCP replied that they will look into it. This was over a month ago. Hmmm.
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Jack Dant
Minmatar
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2010.10.29 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Yeah, I'm sure a whole lot of 15 day old players with names that have lots of numbers in them
With the exception of QQQ38 the names are pretty realistic.
For a while last year I traded in magnates near one of these courier mission hubs. Every couple days, a bunch of day-old characters would buy magnates all at once. And I mean, like 10 sold within 3 minutes of each other.
These characters all had "realistic" names. But when you looked at them together, it was obvious they were made from the same generator. One day it would all be "Firstname Lastname", the next "FirstnameNUMBER", etc, etc.
Randomly generating realistic names is very easy.
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Myyona
Minmatar
Ataraxia Pharmacies
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Posted - 2010.10.29 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Myyona on 29/10/2010 11:41:27
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
If i hadn't been on the other side of things, and seen so many people be wrong, i too might easily jump to conclusions.
It sure is, Prof. T, but you should come to the area and see for yourself. While not the same people by character name this kind of (seemingly suicidal) behavior in these particular systems has been going on for years.
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Myyona
CEO, Ataraxia Pharmacies
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.10.29 11:44:00 -
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Ingunn, hmm. Yes.
Stakhanov and Metafarmers used to go there a couple years back, thin out the numbers. I helped out once or twice, clearing wrecks and cans off the grid. Managed to drop local by a hundred or so for a couple weeks till they got tired of it, or the "mercenaries" hired by the farming outfits got too aggressive.
I'd be interested in obtaining the cargoes though. Things like the "large group of cattle", and "Crates of Harroule Dryweed".
Being a single mother is quite hard. |
adriaans
Amarr
Ankaa.
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Posted - 2010.10.29 14:32:00 -
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Until they actually start dropping something besides t1 cargo expanders which doesn't even cover ammo cost, 99.9% of people simply ignore them, and those who do kill them will find themselves rather quickly hunted by others, as you're likely to be dropping t2 mods.
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