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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.01 15:24:00 -
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This is happening in 2 different corps with 2 different characters.
When you right-click a BPO, that shows locked down and you can not move it, it shows a message that says something like the lock vote has not finished. However under the sanctionable actions tab it shows it was acted upon but it's still not in effect.
The BPOs have been locked down for several months. No lock votes can be started as it says they are locked down already.
Anyone else having this problem?
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Kithran
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Posted - 2010.11.01 16:38:00 -
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I can confirm I am also expereincing a problem unlocking BPOs.
I have checked the Politics tab and there are no ongoing votes or anything on sanctionable actions.
Trying to unlock a bpo I get the following message:
The item cannot be unlocked as there is no lockdown sanctioned action in effect for this item. The item is probably being locked down by a vote that has not completed yet.
Kithran
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John Mordu
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.11.01 18:09:00 -
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Same here, trying to unlock some bpo's, and they are all stuck.
Already petitioned, let's see what ccp says
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.11.01 22:17:00 -
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Known issue, just not known by many GM.
Put the BPO on for a short job, cancel the job.
This resets whatever is broken in the database and allows it to be locked again.
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Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
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Posted - 2010.11.03 07:44:00 -
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This is a crippling bug for the Hydra Fund, and has been petitioned.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.11.08 05:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Cista2
This is a crippling bug for the Hydra Fund, and has been petitioned.
It's one of those bugs that happens so rarely that it's a very specific chain of events that sets it off.
Hard to debug. Not on devs radar at all.
A work-around for the end-user (that GMs won't tell you about) coupled with that it's in an area of the game
that hasn't been updated in 4 years, means it will likely never be fixed.
Not until the whole industry thing is re-worked "someday".
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John Mordu
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.11.12 10:18:00 -
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Only a *slight* update
After sending numerous petitions, having told them which bpo's to unlock for about 3 times now, and the location for at least 4 times, it seems they are still wondering where the bpo's are located, and which need to be unlocked.
Seriously CCP, do you employ monkeys as GMs?
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.11.13 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: John Mordu
Only a *slight* update
After sending numerous petitions, having told them which bpo's to unlock for about 3 times now, and the location for at least 4 times, it seems they are still wondering where the bpo's are located, and which need to be unlocked.
Seriously CCP, do you employ monkeys as GMs?
This is the thing, the GMs have zero idea about this long-standing bug.
You have 2 options.
A) Wait 4-6 weeks for the petition to be esculated to someone who knows what the **** is going on.
At this point they'll ask you for permission to login to your account.
They'll then take the bpo, put a short job on, cancel it and the blueprint will be fixed.
B) Put a short job on, cancel it, fix the bpo yourself in 5 mins.
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thebarry
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.11.14 21:45:00 -
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I have the same problem, except my bpos are locked down in a station that has no facilities at all, so I cannot install it in a job and cancel it 
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nuroo
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Posted - 2010.11.15 00:51:00 -
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I have same issue in my corp. I contracted my bpo's to my CEO for corp use, with the understanding I'd get them back. Time passes and I want them back. He says he cant unlock them. I'm a Director myself so I check the corp assets. They are indeed locked down in corp assets but in the Politics screen, only one bpo has a sanctioned action. So my bpo's cant be unlocked because they dont show up in politics screen, so no votes can take place.
My CEO says he tried the above fix, but it didnt work. The bpo's are now deep in 0.0, else i would try the fix myself. What type of job must started and canceled? How long does the job need to be ran b4 canceled?
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.11.15 03:56:00 -
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A solution I got from GM R******y: your CEO needs to petition, stating exactly the system, station and hangar the blueprints are locked in. It can't be a director, for whatever stupid reason. Then you get to confirm three times that yes indeed those are the BPOs you are looking for (each time taking a day to respond), and the GM will unlock the blueprints and move them to your (the CEO's) personal hangar.
What GM R******y forgot to mention, they will be moved to your hangar at the station you are currently docked in. If you want to save your CEO a day of hauling 1000+ blueprints out of a hot warzone, have him dock his character in the station you have the blueprints at.
Customer service at it's finest.
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nuroo
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Posted - 2010.11.15 15:32:00 -
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Both CEO and myself have put in petitions. I must say I don't like this lock down system even when it works, not to mention the database issues it's having lately.
The whole reason for locking down a bpo is security. Why not allow the use of bpo to Corp facilities from ones personal hanger. For times when others need bpo use a contracting system for bpo's is needed. If bpo's had ownership a Corp or person could contract a bpo for set time or amount of runs then the bpo returns to owner. That could also work for outside researchers too.
Even when the current lockdown system doesn't have database issues it has people problems. Like if your bpo's are lockeddown for safety (because of theft) then you have problems with Corp mates or CEO. You think they going to vote to unlock your bpo's? What if your CEO has all Corp shares or a majority? He can move or steal your bpo's. U only have CCP help u then, and you have to prove ownership and it takes weeks.
How can we get CCP to address these problems.
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Aphrodite Skripalle
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2010.11.15 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: Aphrodite Skripalle on 15/11/2010 16:06:16
This really is a big problem. Its bugged, its damn slow and if you need it fast, you wont get them. I had made a petition, the answer was sort of i have to wait for another 24 hours to unlock them. If you really need your bpos fast, you wont get them. And if you are in a hot warzone you are f4cked and you are in serious danger to loose them all.
Also you never know, who will take them, if you vote to unlock them. And if you also have problems with ceo, eg. somebody has made a run for ceo then the owner of those bpos REALLY is in trouble.
So this so call locking for security is a very bad mechanic, but still the best way because any other way with roles and titles completly failed.
What else can we do to adress this bug to ccp, there are already numerous petitions ?
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thebarry
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.11.18 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Aphrodite Skripalle
Edited by: Aphrodite Skripalle on 15/11/2010 16:06:16
This really is a big problem. Its bugged, its damn slow and if you need it fast, you wont get them. I had made a petition, the answer was sort of i have to wait for another 24 hours to unlock them. If you really need your bpos fast, you wont get them. And if you are in a hot warzone you are f4cked and you are in serious danger to loose them all.
Also you never know, who will take them, if you vote to unlock them. And if you also have problems with ceo, eg. somebody has made a run for ceo then the owner of those bpos REALLY is in trouble.
So this so call locking for security is a very bad mechanic, but still the best way because any other way with roles and titles completly failed.
What else can we do to adress this bug to ccp, there are already numerous petitions ?
It's actually not that slow...they are taking care of my mess pretty fast 
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Bitty Bit
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Posted - 2010.11.18 13:26:00 -
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So when BPO's are locked down, there is no expiration when they become unlocked? after looking through the corp management screen i noticed an expiration on the sanctioned action (locking the bpo)
I also have another question, if during the lockdown vote period, all members abstain and 1 member votes to lockdown the bpo. do the bpos still get locked down?
thx
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2010.11.18 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Bitty Bit
I also have another question, if during the lockdown vote period, all members abstain and 1 member votes to lockdown the bpo. do the bpos still get locked down?
Abstain means they are choosing not to vote and therefor don't count. You have 10 people - 3 vote yes, 2 no, 5 abstain. The result is 3-2 in favor.
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.18 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Breaker77 on 18/11/2010 15:18:53
Originally by: Greg Huff
You have 10 people - 3 vote yes, 2 no, 5 abstain. The result is 3-2 in favor.
That is if they have an equal number of shares.
If 1 person has 1 share and 10,000 people have 1,000 shares each. If only the 1 person with one share votes that is the only vote that is counted.
edit: so far I have had limited luck with starting jobs and canceling them, but it's the best work around so far.
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Aphrodite Skripalle
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2010.11.18 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Aphrodite Skripalle on 18/11/2010 15:57:27
Originally by: Breaker77
edit: so far I have had limited luck with starting jobs and canceling them, but it's the best work around so far.
This.
But if you have capital bpos, and you cancel a job, the slot is gone for the whole time it takes to finish the job. Starting a copy or me research job on a capital bpo can take more then 35 days.
So if you have 10 capital bpos and you need to start a job with each bpo only to unlock it, you really have a problem.
This is a workaround, but there is a bug which needs to be fixed. |
haj ha
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Posted - 2010.11.18 23:35:00 -
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not trying to derail the thread but has any one else had bpo's go 'missing' i have/had a conflag s bpo in the corp hanger, then all of a sudden its gone, gm confirmed that it was in the hanger but its definatly not there.
And no it hasnt been stolen all members in the corp that had access to hangers are mine, issue is currently under petition, just wondering what else has gone 'missing' only reason i noticed this one is that it stands out due to its value.
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Bitty Bit
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Posted - 2010.11.20 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Greg Huff
Originally by: Bitty Bit
I also have another question, if during the lockdown vote period, all members abstain and 1 member votes to lockdown the bpo. do the bpos still get locked down?
Abstain means they are choosing not to vote and therefor don't count. You have 10 people - 3 vote yes, 2 no, 5 abstain. The result is 3-2 in favor.
This didn't work, i tested it with a frig bpo, 1 day vote. I voted with my 1 share and no one else voted on the lockdown. I look the next day and the frig bpo is unlocked. Weird.
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.20 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bitty Bit
Originally by: Greg Huff
Originally by: Bitty Bit
I also have another question, if during the lockdown vote period, all members abstain and 1 member votes to lockdown the bpo. do the bpos still get locked down?
Abstain means they are choosing not to vote and therefor don't count. You have 10 people - 3 vote yes, 2 no, 5 abstain. The result is 3-2 in favor.
This didn't work, i tested it with a frig bpo, 1 day vote. I voted with my 1 share and no one else voted on the lockdown. I look the next day and the frig bpo is unlocked. Weird.
Thats strange it should be locked, did you carry out vote result?
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Bitty Bit
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Posted - 2010.11.22 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dasola
Originally by: Bitty Bit
Originally by: Greg Huff
Originally by: Bitty Bit
I also have another question, if during the lockdown vote period, all members abstain and 1 member votes to lockdown the bpo. do the bpos still get locked down?
Abstain means they are choosing not to vote and therefor don't count. You have 10 people - 3 vote yes, 2 no, 5 abstain. The result is 3-2 in favor.
This didn't work, i tested it with a frig bpo, 1 day vote. I voted with my 1 share and no one else voted on the lockdown. I look the next day and the frig bpo is unlocked. Weird.
Thats strange it should be locked, did you carry out vote result?
I'm not the CEO and so cannot cary out the vote action, i'll try again with a different bpo later
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Kendra Coldera
Ripoff Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.23 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aphrodite Skripalle
Edited by: Aphrodite Skripalle on 18/11/2010 15:57:27
Originally by: Breaker77
edit: so far I have had limited luck with starting jobs and canceling them, but it's the best work around so far.
This.
But if you have capital bpos, and you cancel a job, the slot is gone for the whole time it takes to finish the job. Starting a copy or me research job on a capital bpo can take more then 35 days.
So if you have 10 capital bpos and you need to start a job with each bpo only to unlock it, you really have a problem.
This is a workaround, but there is a bug which needs to be fixed.
Offline and Online the Lab afterwards (I really hope it's a Lab) and the slots are freed up. All other jobs will pause for that time.
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.23 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kendra Coldera
Offline and Online the Lab afterwards (I really hope it's a Lab) and the slots are freed up. All other jobs will pause for that time.
As you mentioned, that only pauses jobs. If you want to free the slots you have to unanchor, repackage, then reanchor the labs.
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Sugar Jugs
Juggalicious
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Posted - 2010.11.25 06:45:00 -
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Same problem in our corp, no unlock votes work, CCP has reduced unlock times to about 4-6 days now though, so the situation is getting slightly better.
No blueprint unlock votes work at all for our corp, over 11 stations and over 2k blueprints.
This is a ****ing joke.
Can we please have some comment from a dev about this?
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Twee
Royal Astronomical Society
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Posted - 2010.11.27 08:23:00 -
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Same problem here. I build for other people, if I cannot give a bpo back within a decent amount of time I lose my credibility as a reliable builder.
Please CCP, fix this and unlock the bpo's! |
SuicidalPancake
Caldari
Quantum Horizons
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Posted - 2010.11.27 22:53:00 -
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Confirming that I have the same issue - have petitioned CCP
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
T2 Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2010.11.28 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Kendra Coldera
Offline and Online the Lab afterwards (I really hope it's a Lab) and the slots are freed up. All other jobs will pause for that time.
As you mentioned, that only pauses jobs. If you want to free the slots you have to unanchor, repackage, then reanchor the labs.
Not anymore, it cancels the job if you offline the module.
Also, FIX THE GODDAMN BUG
Originally by: Brock Nelson
OP's question is translated as: Help, I'm a female stuck in a man's body, can Incarna help?
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Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2010.11.28 20:52:00 -
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Also having this problem, please fix!
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Kendra Coldera
Ripoff Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.30 22:30:00 -
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I recently tried to unlock a few BPOs by myself aswell, and of course it bugged. But sadly the mentioned fix did not work.
Now i put up a petition, wondering when they fix it.
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