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Shantheor	Posted - 2010.11.02 15:55:00 - [1] My segment of our corp lives in a WH. We were visited by a hound recently who decided to camp our WH for a week or so. After multiple engagements that ended in a draw, we are wondering the best tactics and ships to use to trap and kill a Hound.
Mr Jinggles Iron-Sky DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2010.11.02 16:05:00 - [2] Light drones and dampeners.
Gallactica Gallente Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2010.11.02 16:06:00 - [3] Arty Cane - 1 volley = instapopped
nasty1 Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2010.11.02 16:08:00 - [4] yea shoot it .....T.R.I.A.D.....
Mutant Caldari Caldari Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.11.02 16:31:00 - [5] Sneeze in it's general direction? Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
Mr Jinggles Iron-Sky DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2010.11.02 16:37:00 - [6] Large rails etc won't be able to hit it. But medium arty's/rails win. Light drones put SB's in the ground.
Intigo Amarr Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.11.02 17:06:00 - [7] Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix. Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix. Kill it with your SB. So hard! ___________________
Shantheor	Posted - 2010.11.02 17:14:00 - [8] thank you for suggestions.
Cameron Freerunner	Posted - 2010.11.02 18:56:00 - [9] Edited by: Cameron Freerunner on 02/11/2010 19:00:08 Cloaked bubble shooters FTW. With instalock the bomber can't recloak and now has to make it out of the bubble. Throw in points on your bait ship or another assist ship (like cloaked recon) once you close in on it and its dead.
Arthello D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2010.11.03 11:19:00 - [10] Dude just kill it in the face. Seriously...
Hidden Snake Caldari Inglorious-Basterds Caldari Defence Initiative	Posted - 2010.11.03 11:55:00 - [11] Edited by: Hidden Snake on 03/11/2010 11:57:53 Originally by: Gallactica Arty Cane - 1 volley = instapopped this + dont use cruisers, if he is bomb fitted, they can die (even some reckons can be bombed to death). HMHLs drakes can do some funny things to SBs. Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix. Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix. Kill it with your SB. So hard! can work too, but be careful if enemy will start attack with bomb run.
helmut cheddar	Posted - 2010.11.03 12:18:00 - [12] Edited by: helmut cheddar on 03/11/2010 12:20:23 Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix. Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix. Kill it with your SB. So hard! Can vouch for the fact that this works, funny as **** to decloak next to SB in ur own SB and have him melt in seconds to ur TURRETS lol :P EDIT make sure you fit scram / web and AB to prevent escape
Diesel47	Posted - 2010.11.03 12:35:00 - [13] Medium Rails or Arts, 1. lock on 2. shoot.
Ginlene	Posted - 2010.11.03 15:22:00 - [14] Smartbombs.. No need to lock, and cloaking doesn't help them. But a good counter if you can't get in range is just another small cloaky ship.
Mutant Caldari Caldari Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.11.03 15:26:00 - [15] Edited by: Mutant Caldari on 03/11/2010 15:28:20 Originally by: Hidden Snake Edited by: Hidden Snake on 03/11/2010 11:57:53 Originally by: Gallactica Arty Cane - 1 volley = instapopped this + dont use cruisers, if he is bomb fitted, they can die (even some reckons can be bombed to death). HMHLs drakes can do some funny things to SBs. Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix. Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix. Kill it with your SB. So hard! can work too, but be careful if enemy will start attack with bomb run. I knew your fits were terribad but if you are getting 1 volleyed by a bomb in ANY cruiser, you are extremely fail fit and need to reevaluate your career in Eve. May I suggest high sec mining in a Procurer? Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
Hidden Snake Caldari Inglorious-Basterds Caldari Defence Initiative	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Mutant Caldari Edited by: Mutant Caldari on 03/11/2010 15:28:20 Originally by: Hidden Snake Edited by: Hidden Snake on 03/11/2010 11:57:53 Originally by: Gallactica Arty Cane - 1 volley = instapopped this + dont use cruisers, if he is bomb fitted, they can die (even some reckons can be bombed to death). HMHLs drakes can do some funny things to SBs. Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix. Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix. Kill it with your SB. So hard! can work too, but be careful if enemy will start attack with bomb run. I knew your fits were terribad but if you are getting 1 volleyed by a bomb in ANY cruiser, you are extremely fail fit and need to reevaluate your career in Eve. May I suggest high sec mining in a Procurer? please keep this on logical level (for emos we have other places) ... ofc u will not get instabombed in ok fit, but bomb can tear of significant part of ur buffer so torps can cause u serious problems (especially if u sit in something like blasterfit thorax). I died twice to bombing run in absolutely super normal 1600 mm plate vexor with my alt which cannot use the warriors 2 yet (5 mil sp toon) - the hound and second time manti were just too fast and my neuts or blasters were not able to catch him. rupture/staber might survive though, but i am not 100% sure as my main hounds are faster then my stabbers.
Kahega Amielden Minmatar	Posted - 2010.11.03 16:28:00 - [17] Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 03/11/2010 16:32:47 Cruisers do not fear bombers, end of story. If they have enough bombers to pop a properly-fit cruiser, they could pop a battlecruiser (as low sig radius reduces damage). Any sort of long-range sniper cruiser or BC (both work fine) will ruin any bombers. Fit sensor boosters with scan res scripts.
Ar Zor Jupiter Force	Posted - 2010.11.09 14:35:00 - [18] Shoot it once? If baiting with a separate ship, make the killing ship an interceptor. Bait with whatever he attacked before. If using the same ship for baiting and killing, set up a battleship with medium long-range weapons, light drones, and a heavy neut.
horis hurbunker	Posted - 2010.11.09 14:56:00 - [19] Get some sensor boosters for insta lock and use a hurricane or destroyer with an an
KrustyKrab Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.11.10 10:35:00 - [20] T2 artillery thrasher with 2 sensor boosters + scripts = almost instalock on a bomber and pop him before his bomb explodes. Good trick I learned doing some of the Agony Unleashed pvp classes. Plus a Thrasher won't die to a single bomb unless it has a mwd active, but Thrasher gets decent targeting range, pretty awesome alpha, and even pulling one of the scripts will still net you high scan res and even better target range.
Roosterton Unlawful Combatants	Posted - 2010.11.10 23:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Intigo Park a Stealth Bomber of your own with small ACs / lasers / blasters next to a ratting bait Dominix. Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix. Kill it with your SB. So hard! Use a BattleHelios/Covops of your choice for even more LOLfactor. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three. Originally by: Tarminic OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!
Borg Stoneson	Posted - 2010.11.11 00:46:00 - [22] It's a stealth bomber, just shoot it, medium turrets and precision heavy missiles work well.
Kraschyn Thek'athor	Posted - 2010.11.11 02:18:00 - [23] Overtanked BS, passive targeting system. If he see you targeting him, he will get into cloak for a few seconds to break targeting and reducing your targeting with his remote sensor dampener. Pretend that you have not seen him with an passive targeter. Easiest and classic. Bait + cloaked recon with tons of scan resolution Bait + Thrasher in same fleet, Thrasher offgrid but aligned No Bomberpilot worth his salt will ever attack an destroyer.
Baneken Gallente School of the Unseen	Posted - 2010.11.11 06:13:00 - [24] Only problem with a bomber is getting your point to reach +30km before the bomber warps off a cloaked Arazu would be ideal but failing that SEBO's and medium AC's should do the trick. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Dr Evader	Posted - 2010.11.11 13:36:00 - [25] "Best tactics to kill a Stealth Bomber" Weapons man, Weapons!
Boreesh	Posted - 2010.11.11 18:56:00 - [26] Honestly it's a WH. I'll assume if it's the standard deal he's waiting for your savager to come through a site then attacking it? If that's the case, and you know he's around (add contact). then get out there with a Explosive hardener, T2 point, and 2 standard missile launchers on your salvage dessie. If he takes the bait, tackle and shoot back. OR cloak a SB beside your dessie.
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2010.11.12 01:35:00 - [27] Can't believe I am saying this, but Arazu is your best choice. Sit cloaked 20-30km above/below your ratting bait. Load with 200/250mm Rails, MWD, Shield/Speed Tank, Light Drones, Long Point & Scram. Normally I hate the Arazu, but it would make a good SB killer. Taxman IX: Risky Venture
Terminal Insanity Minmatar Foundation	Posted - 2010.11.12 02:17:00 - [28] i highly recommend the gun fitted 'bomber' as a counter, it guarentees win over other 'real' bombers. My favorite trick, is anchor a small warp bubble, drop a cyno beacon in the middle of it and launch your drones.... cant go wrong really =p
Lord Zekk 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2010.11.12 08:44:00 - [29] While everyone has had some good advice. It's really not about what you bring to kill the bomber. Pretty much anything in eve can kill a bomber. Hell your hulk could probably kill a bomber. It's about tactics. A SB has the advantage of checking out the situation before he engages. He can look for backup. He can hide and wait. He choose not to engage. These are what make smart SB pilots deadly and very tough to kill. No sane SB pilot will decloak when there is an arty boat on the field. He just need to "look at" your guns to know if you have arties fit. It's about tactics. You have to get him to engage you when you want him to. Sometimes it can take a while before he takes the bait. A lot of the time you will not be able to catch him. Even if you come close to killing him a few times he will probably decide trying to kill you is a bad idea. The Domi trap is a good idea. Having another SB there to decloak and lock him is another good idea. Maybe even fit it with a faction point and overheat the point to point the SB back. Have a few SBs scattered around your bait ship with this setup. That way no matter what direction he comes in from you can catch him. Once an BS is pointed all you really need to do is sneeze in it's direction to kill it as someone already mentioned. Good luck.
Cpt Smasher	Posted - 2010.11.12 18:42:00 - [30] Heavy pulse Shield fit harbinger will volley them with good gun skills and scorch. 3x Heat sink 1x TE. Lol Or 2 volley with 425s and barrage. Ofcourse 3x gyro 2x TE on the cane.
The Unibomber	Posted - 2010.11.20 05:08:00 - [31] Edited by: The Unibomber on 20/11/2010 05:20:11 to be honest, im not gonna TOUCH most of the suggestions here as a SB pilot. see a domi ratting/whatever? im leaving it alone. warrior 2's will ruin my day. as said above, im leaving arty boats alone. the harb idea? yea. been there done that. a pulse harb is a good bomber killer, but a smart pilot wont engage unless hes feeling rather ***y. what would get me? try an geddon, (125 bandwidth) put a bit of a buffer on it (not too much, if im not denting you too quickly, im donna disengage if im spooked. however if i think im close to the kill, i'll stay where normally i wouldnt.), long point (long as possible. im going to engage at around 20-24km myself) fill the bay with LARGE drones. have them out. have the mids filled (besides point) with SEBO. do not activate the SEBO until the bomber decloaks. have your friends near you, but logged out. (wh hunting im going to have any known chars that inhabit the hole im camping on watchlist.) one or two should be in fast tackle, because as soon as i see my watchlist light up, im going to try and GTFO. you should be able to fill in the blanks from here. logic? im going to see the geddon with larges, and know he has no warriors in reserve. looks like a decent target. the SEBOs would be my first clue somethings not right, but i'd probably continue. if your friends are fast, they have a decent shot at snaring him. edit* to keep the bomber pilot from simply blinking cloak, make it very obvious you are aligned to your POS. if i blink the cloak, your gone. edit 2 have your friends with scrams +webs. if you just have long points, even if your friends snare me, im just going to try and burn off. scram will destroy my MWD ability. sorry for the wall of text, and i might have left some things out, but its late, its friday night, and im slightly drunk. lol
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2010.11.20 16:39:00 - [32] Originally by: Gallactica Arty Cane - 1 volley = instapopped A sensor boost arty cane will give a SB fits, it sure as hell did me once. But anything with decent tracking and some range and reasonably fast lock will.
Soldarius Caldari Independent Coalition DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2010.11.21 05:37:00 - [33] Edited by: Soldarius on 21/11/2010 05:38:13 SB max lock range is roughly 75km. Range on the torps is 40-50km. Range on the point is 20-24km. Why bother with SeBo? A single unbonused ship is not going to damp a SB down far enough to have a useful effect. Multiple ships on the other hand could do it easily (no stacking penalty). But at that point, SB is dead anyway. Ninja EDIT: doy. for faster lock time. nvm "When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."
Brianna Bloodfang	Posted - 2010.11.21 06:36:00 - [34] Another point... if he has a bomb launcher on the bomber, he's gimped his ship in one way or another. he cant fit 3 launchers+cloak+ bomb launcher AND have a probe launcher. so either he has a scanning alt in system, he's down 1 launcher, or he has no bomb launcher. (because running a STEALTH bomber without the STEALTH is utter fail.)
ChYph3r Multiplex Gaming	Posted - 2010.11.21 17:15:00 - [35] cheap, ship for the job is a arty thrasher works as well as a cane....but a lot cheaper...if your using a bait ship, like a domi, then you prolly wont loose it either.
Citizen2590	Posted - 2010.11.21 18:43:00 - [36] He may well be just intel gathering in which case he is unlikely to put himself in harms way. The only way to get him is (as above) to bait him. Let him think he's getting a kill and then anbush the weasel. Do your own intel, does he get lazy and always use the same spots, try to use this to your advantage. Give him something to occupy his mind whilst you try to plot his location. Unfortunately, you have to think like a thief to catch a thief and in this case, you have to think like a sneaky little git to catch one.
Brianna Bloodfang	Posted - 2010.11.22 00:57:00 - [37] Any somewhat smart bomber pilot isnt going to engage anything cruiser size or down, minus your odd unarmed salvager. bombers have less tank than a wet paper bag, so the idea is to avoid taking damage in the first place. Sure, engaging the small stuff is POSSIBLE, but this isnt like the bombers of old poppin off cruise missiles from range. any frigate/destroyer will promptly rip a SB a new *******. getting him to ENGAGE, on the other hand.....
Lost Greybeard	Posted - 2010.11.22 05:18:00 - [38] What's with all the "use a domi as bait" suggestions? Domi is famous for having more drones than it knows what to do with, and small drones can ruin our day fast. If you're running gallente bait, use the Mega, that's something I might go for if it has heavies. Especially if it's ratting with a sniper fit for some reason. Basically, we look for stupid/unprepared people. A domi is almost never unprepared, you need to bluff harder with your bait ship. --- If you outlaw tautologies, only outlaws will have tautologies. ~Anonymous
Chris Bailey	Posted - 2010.11.22 22:24:00 - [39] 2 SBs popped my heron
Blackhuey	Posted - 2010.11.23 00:50:00 - [40] the reason to use a bomber over an inty to snag him is this: Quote: -100% targeting delay after decloaking
Magnus Orin Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.11.23 20:53:00 - [41] Alpha it with a trasher. basically if you can lock a SB you have it dead. unfortunately, any decent SB pilot will be aligned and initiating warp a half second after his bomb is launched, so locking is close to impossible. Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you.
Devil tiger	Posted - 2010.11.24 22:15:00 - [42] Give the SB pilot something "juicy" to scan out as a bait and try getting a point on his arse when he engages. Sometimes it works and sometimes he's/they're actually smart/experienced enough to avoid the trap. Lone SB pilots rarely want to be suicidal and avoid groups larger than 3.
Pollox Reaver Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.11.25 16:40:00 - [43] Thrasher with 6 x 250mm Arty II's, MWD, Point, T2 Sensor Booster II(Scan res script loaded) 2 x Tracking Enhancer II's. Rigs - Small Shield extender rig/s Will instapop that hound:)
EMO JAck	Posted - 2010.11.25 17:06:00 - [44] Its a stealth bomber......... Get a fast locking myrm, a force recond, pretty much anything with a fast lock and guns. Perferably smallish so torps are ineffective...... Wait for Stealth Bomber to decloak to kill said Dominix. WHAT????? If anyone ever loses a Domi to a SB they should just quit the game now. Its better that way.
Striker4ever	Posted - 2010.11.30 13:39:00 - [45] well considering an experienced stealth bomber would come in an harass you then good luck trying to catch him. The only way you will catch him is if he slips up.
ChromeStriker	Posted - 2010.11.30 14:27:00 - [46] To those of you hoping to catch a stealth bomber with artillery or other long range weapons... whats stopping me uncloaking under your tracking? in fact id quite like u all to fit the big guns please would give me a hell of a load more targets! just dont bring light drones you see this is all very situational any bomber pilot worth his salt is going to be scanning system for ambushes and wont engage anything with anti-frig guns or light drones! you need to be lucky or have the pilot make a mistake otherwise he will just disingauge, cloak and start the fun all over again. aka the only thing i can see working is the anti bomber cov-ops with some bait! just dont sit too close to the bait ship if the bomber likes to use u know ... use bombs lol
Daesis Wrack The Kairos Syndicate	Posted - 2010.12.01 06:18:00 - [47] Fake salvage thrasher. 1-2 tractors, 1-2 salvagers, the rest small arty.
Shantheor	Posted - 2010.12.06 19:44:00 - [48] thanks for all the really great feedback. Very helpful.
Carl Icahn	Posted - 2010.12.07 02:56:00 - [49] precision missiles will kill it before he can warp off if hes not aligned. Killed 4 of em the other day and they were all 55km away from me, didnt even point them.
Kais N'ktal Caldari Order of the Machine God	Posted - 2010.12.07 07:43:00 - [50] Warp in cloaked, align, decloak, fire, warp out, repeat. - Kais

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