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Boligrinomine
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Posted - 2010.11.03 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Boligrinomine on 03/11/2010 15:34:22 Ok I have a few questions, looking for sub capital ships please. Any advise is appreciated. I am looking for not only the best but the set of top ships, like top 10 or so should be adequate. I am looking at omi tanks and checking the tank on the lowest resit. When you post please post the resists. Please post with 2 fits, tech 2 and then faction+ and how you fit would be appreciated or post with a character that I can contact you on for the fit should I need. Do not use modules that cost over 1b each in game please. For instance Pith A medium shield booster is acceptable.
1) Best Passive tank ships.
2)Best Active tank ships. A) Shield? B) Armor?
3) Highest DPS Ships? A) Missles? (please lets not figure for torps or HAMs, rockets and that. B) Guns? Preferably long range, optimal range of 1k putting out 2k dps is great but its a pain in the butt to get that close then don't post it please. 30k range and high dps, GREAT!!
4) Highest active tank AND dps combine?
5) Highest passive tank AND dps combine?
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Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2010.11.03 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Boligrinomine
1) Best Passive tank ships. drake
2)Best Active tank ships. A) Shield? mael B) Armor? hyper
3) Highest DPS Ships? A) Missles? raven B) Guns? hyper
4) Highest active tank AND dps combine?
mael
5) Highest passive tank AND dps combine? rokh perhaps? prolly the nighthawk or drake tho
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Mike712
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Posted - 2010.11.03 16:03:00 -
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Don't be lazy, get EFT play arround with some fits, unless your on a mac, If so, get a PC, then get EFT and play arround with some fits.
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Boligrinomine
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Posted - 2010.11.03 16:58:00 -
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I have played around with this stuff on eft, I wana see if someone else has found something that I missed. I have certain ships that I specialize in and can get amazingly good dps and tank off of fits others haven't tought of. But sometimes I run into someone that found a way to do it better. That is why I ask here.
Amounts of the tank and dps are appreciated if you can list them please. Like I said earlier I do prefer omni tanks but if you give a specific off of 2 resists please use the lower of the 2. When giving the omni give the tank off the lowest resist and list the resists.
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Boligrinomine
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Posted - 2010.11.05 15:32:00 -
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bump, still looking for thoughts on ships and fit
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.11.05 16:00:00 -
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Polaris Legatus 100/100/100/100
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Boligrinomine
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Posted - 2010.11.05 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Polaris Legatus 100/100/100/100
Thats a ship only available to gms, I said realistic...... lets keep it on track please.
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Culmen
Caldari Blood Phage Syndicate Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2010.11.05 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Culmen on 05/11/2010 17:25:01 Highest reinforced active tank actually goes to Wyrven Supercarrier I think
[Wyvern, Estemels] Damage Control II Chelm's Modified Power Diagnostic System Chelm's Modified Power Diagnostic System Chelm's Modified Power Diagnostic System
Estamel's Modified X-Large Shield Booster Estamel's Modified X-Large Shield Booster Estamel's Modified X-Large Shield Booster Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Shield Boost Amplifier Estamel's Modified Shield Boost Amplifier
[empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier II Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier II Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
With Mindlink vulture, Leviathan, Red Giant Class 6, high-grade crystal set,overheat and strong blue pill it can tank 327,364 DPS omni
Note this is higher then a Leviathan, because the the Wryven gets a tanking bonus. Also Estamel's X-Large SB give more tank then capital shield booster, because they are effected by the crystal set and rigs.
Course I ran out of zero's counting how much isk this would take to construct. But it is possible.
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.11.05 17:24:00 -
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Im sorry but the best subcapital ship tank is a 647k ehp damnation.
Yes its under 2 bil. Skills and low slots are the key configured correctly.
Once the trolls go away i might post the fit. |
James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.11.05 17:53:00 -
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Highest DPS ship is the Typhoon, but it's got a relatively short effective range - torps and autos go a sensible distance, but it's not _amazingly_ far. None the less, 1400dps is quite doable with a T2 fit.
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Boligrinomine
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Posted - 2010.11.05 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Polaris Legatus 100/100/100/100
Originally by: Culmen Edited by: Culmen on 05/11/2010 17:28:51 Edited by: Culmen on 05/11/2010 17:25:01 Highest reinforced active tank actually goes to Wyrven Supercarrier I think
[Wyvern, Estemels]
bla bla bla
2 trolls in a row ......gtfo you trolls are just idiots....don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out
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Kneebone
Heathens' Harbor
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Posted - 2010.11.05 18:53:00 -
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I'd like to point out that part of tanking active/passive is also the ability to move. T2 ships can have battle like tanks but move at 600+ m/s speeds and mitigate a lot of damage coming in from bigger ships due to speed.
Also PvP or PvE application? That changes a lot of how ships are setup.
Another issue with Active ships is do you want cap stable? You simply do not need a cap stable tank as it takes away from your damage dealing abilites. Killing stuff faster means less tank needed. It could just be that the purpose of your life is to server as a warning to others. |
King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.11.05 19:06:00 -
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Here is my actual in game vargur fit:
[Vargur, uber] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Tracking Enhancer II Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Imperial Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I
Large Core Defence Capacitor safeguard II Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier II
Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5
It tanks 4245 dps with a 50/50 EM/Therm mix, omni tank is 4828. This is without overload, boosters or leadership. With a standard blue pill (3.5M isk, rarely a side effect) and my equally real tengu ganglink alt it rises to 8405 for EM/therm and 9559 for omni tank. I know you said no ganglinks, but I actually have a ganglink alt and rarely undock that thing without it. So the 9559 number is in fact the standard for me.
Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |
Boligrinomine
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Posted - 2010.11.05 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kneebone I'd like to point out that part of tanking active/passive is also the ability to move. T2 ships can have battle like tanks but move at 600+ m/s speeds and mitigate a lot of damage coming in from bigger ships due to speed.
Also PvP or PvE application? That changes a lot of how ships are setup.
Another issue with Active ships is do you want cap stable? You simply do not need a cap stable tank as it takes away from your damage dealing abilites. Killing stuff faster means less tank needed.
Good point. If the ship is moving fast and can keep the turns nice and tight should I wish feel free to post it up even if something else has a little better tank. Looking for both pvp and pve,primarily looking for pve. For my PVE ships I do prefer them to be cap stable but I am open to seeing other options. Consider your in a c4, c5 or c6 static WH you have got to be cap stable and you can't depend on drones for dps at all most of the dps has to come from you. Some missions and when you get up into level 5s you can run into just about anything so might be webed, not be able to warp out, nuet on me....I wana make it out with my ship intact. There is the pvp side to it, I am interested in max dps there and in those instances cap stability isn't a bit deal, poping that orca or w/e that just came into low sec just has to pop. Thing is I don't pvp that often so this isn't the biggest of my concerns but if you have something sweet I am all ears. I tend to consider worst case scenario when I build my ships. DPS some nice EHP and a big tank can make things happen and speed or a small sig never hurt anything. If you have something good I am most certainly open to options.
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Random Alt1467
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Posted - 2010.11.05 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Boligrinomine
Originally by: Kneebone I'd like to point out that part of tanking active/passive is also the ability to move. T2 ships can have battle like tanks but move at 600+ m/s speeds and mitigate a lot of damage coming in from bigger ships due to speed.
Also PvP or PvE application? That changes a lot of how ships are setup.
Another issue with Active ships is do you want cap stable? You simply do not need a cap stable tank as it takes away from your damage dealing abilites. Killing stuff faster means less tank needed.
Good point. If the ship is moving fast and can keep the turns nice and tight should I wish feel free to post it up even if something else has a little better tank. Looking for both pvp and pve,primarily looking for pve. For my PVE ships I do prefer them to be cap stable but I am open to seeing other options. Consider your in a c4, c5 or c6 static WH you have got to be cap stable and you can't depend on drones for dps at all most of the dps has to come from you. Some missions and when you get up into level 5s you can run into just about anything so might be webed, not be able to warp out, nuet on me....I wana make it out with my ship intact. There is the pvp side to it, I am interested in max dps there and in those instances cap stability isn't a bit deal, poping that orca or w/e that just came into low sec just has to pop. Thing is I don't pvp that often so this isn't the biggest of my concerns but if you have something sweet I am all ears. I tend to consider worst case scenario when I build my ships. DPS some nice EHP and a big tank can make things happen and speed or a small sig never hurt anything. If you have something good I am most certainly open to options.
T3 Tengu is your choice then. [Tengu, C4 WH] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Gistum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Pith B-Type Photon Scattering Field Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Low Grade Crystal Set with Omega ZMH2000 CC8 ZMS1000 ZMM1000
1043 cap stable omni tank with perfect ENG skills and the CC8 implant. 773 DPS with near perfect Heavy Missle skills. Does 661m/s
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.05 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jovialmadness Edited by: Jovialmadness on 05/11/2010 17:26:57 Im sorry but the best subcapital ship tank is a 647k ehp damnation.
Yes its under 2.5 bil. Skills and low slots are the key configured correctly.
Once the trolls go away i might post the fit.
lolwut. Stop failing, please. Kthx. Proteus does it better with a ****load more DPS. Just sayin'. Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.11.05 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Jovialmadness on 05/11/2010 21:05:07
Originally by: Mutant Caldari
Originally by: Jovialmadness Edited by: Jovialmadness on 05/11/2010 17:26:57 Im sorry but the best subcapital ship tank is a 647k ehp damnation.
Yes its under 2.5 bil. Skills and low slots are the key configured correctly.
Once the trolls go away i might post the fit.
lolwut. Stop failing, please. Kthx. Proteus does it better with a ****load more DPS. Just sayin'.
Maybe you shouldnt open your mouth and speak of things you dont know or fly. My bait legion is the same as DHB Wildcats prot tank. Corp A-type medium repper with 44k armor achieving 240k ehps bra, the same as his. My dps is about 350 less than his but its a bait ship and the legion just sucks compared to the prot.
Sooo noob, having said all that...my legion would pop before the damnation would. GTFO of here.
Edit: and im only talking about tanks. I Will agree the prot does have a better OVERALL ability BUT im talking about TANK. Learn to read... |
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.05 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jovialmadness Edited by: Jovialmadness on 05/11/2010 21:14:07 Edited by: Jovialmadness on 05/11/2010 21:05:07
Originally by: Mutant Caldari
Originally by: Jovialmadness Edited by: Jovialmadness on 05/11/2010 17:26:57 Im sorry but the best subcapital ship tank is a 647k ehp damnation.
Yes its under 2.5 bil. Skills and low slots are the key configured correctly.
Once the trolls go away i might post the fit.
lolwut. Stop failing, please. Kthx. Proteus does it better with a ****load more DPS. Just sayin'.
Maybe you shouldnt open your mouth and speak of things you dont know or fly. My bait legion is the same as DHB Wildcats prot tank. Corp A-type medium repper with 44k armor achieving 240k ehps bra, the same as his. My dps is about 350 less than his but its a bait ship and the legion just sucks compared to the prot.
Sooo having said all that...my legion would pop before the damnation would. Kthx
Edit: and im only talking about tanks. I Will agree the prot does have a better OVERALL ability BUT im talking about TANK. Learn to read...
[Damnation, lol copy 1] Damage Control II Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400 Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Armored Warfare Link - Damage Control Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Warrior II x5 Without gang bonuses, lets see. 425k EHP(With Slaves), 167 DPS and 265 sig radius.
[Proteus, Lulztank] Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Scrambler Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 Without gang bonuses, lets see. 508k EHP(With Slaves), 506 DPS and 168 sig radius.
Now then, lets add heat to both of them.
Damnation with overheated tank: 567k EHP Proteus with overheated tank: 718k EHP
So the Damnation beats the Proteus, huh? Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Boligrinomine
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Posted - 2010.11.06 01:16:00 -
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Looks great so far guys, I'm loving the imput. I would really like to see a nice passive fit rattler putting out some sick dps and tank. I would also love to see a fit to solo tank a c5 wh and a tank to take on a 10/10 plex with no worries. Hell I'm open to all of the fits as requested earlier keep em coming, this is great input.
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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2010.11.06 01:38:00 -
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You can't solo a c5. |
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.11.06 06:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jovialmadness on 06/11/2010 06:30:01 Edited by: Jovialmadness on 06/11/2010 06:28:43
Originally by: Mutant Caldari
Originally by: Jovialmadness Edited by: Jovialmadness on 05/11/2010 21:14:07 Edited by: Jovialmadness on 05/11/2010 21:05:07
Originally by: Mutant Caldari
Originally by: Jovialmadness Edited by: Jovialmadness on 05/11/2010 17:26:57 Im sorry but the best subcapital ship tank is a 647k ehp damnation.
Yes its under 2.5 bil. Skills and low slots are the key configured correctly.
Once the trolls go away i might post the fit.
lolwut. Stop failing, please. Kthx. Proteus does it better with a ****load more DPS. Just sayin'.
Maybe you shouldnt open your mouth and speak of things you dont know or fly. My bait legion is the same as DHB Wildcats prot tank. Corp A-type medium repper with 44k armor achieving 240k ehps bra, the same as his. My dps is about 350 less than his but its a bait ship and the legion just sucks compared to the prot.
Sooo having said all that...my legion would pop before the damnation would. Kthx
Edit: and im only talking about tanks. I Will agree the prot does have a better OVERALL ability BUT im talking about TANK. Learn to read...
[Damnation, lol copy 1] Damage Control II Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400 Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Armored Warfare Link - Damage Control Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S 200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Warrior II x5 Without gang bonuses, lets see. 425k EHP(With Slaves), 167 DPS and 265 sig radius.
[Proteus, Lulztank] Corpus X-Type Armor EM Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Corpus X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Gistum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive Domination Warp Scrambler Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Valkyrie II x5 Warrior II x5 Without gang bonuses, lets see. 508k EHP(With Slaves), 506 DPS and 168 sig radius.
Now then, lets add heat to both of them.
Damnation with overheated tank: 567k EHP Proteus with overheated tank: 718k EHP
So the Damnation beats the Proteus, huh?
you really are a dumb b******....(edit)
1600 X3 Corelum A-type X2 Damage control
Trimark II X2
638,522
once again...and this is me not optimizing it and not even using the tank i use as you have showed me you know nothing and no point in me putting it in here. smack. |
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.11.06 06:56:00 -
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Edited by: Mutant Caldari on 06/11/2010 06:58:20
Originally by: Jovialmadness
you really are a dumb b******....(edit)
1600 X3 Corelum A-type X2 Damage control
Trimark II X2
638,522
once again...and this is me not optimizing it and not even using the tank i use as you have showed me you know nothing and no point in me putting it in here. smack.
You mad because you are bad <3? Its ok. Overheated I still tank more than 100k more damage than your Damnation without gang bonuses . Do you know what that means? Proteus > Damnation in the bait ship category since it tanks more. ;D Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it? Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Bloody Puppy
Minmatar bulloxer
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Posted - 2010.11.06 07:20:00 -
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[Retriever,Boligrinomine's Retriever pownage] Capacitor Flux Coil II Capacitor Flux Coil II
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
Corpii A-Type Small Nosferatu Corpii A-Type Small Nosferatu
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x5
defence 144 DAMAGE PER SECOND 99
DISCLAIMERADD CRYSTAL AND SOME SMACKTALK EXTRA P E N I S LANGUAGE FOR SUPERINDIANAJONESEXXTRA DPS KABBOOMMMM
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WHY EVERYONE LOVES ME BUT NOONE UNDERSTAND ME? Albert Heinstein |
Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.11.06 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Boligrinomine
Originally by: Lady Spank Polaris Legatus 100/100/100/100
Originally by: Culmen Edited by: Culmen on 05/11/2010 17:28:51 Edited by: Culmen on 05/11/2010 17:25:01 Highest reinforced active tank actually goes to Wyrven Supercarrier I think
[Wyvern, Estemels]
bla bla bla
cry moar please, this is a dumb thread, you didnt even state what the intended role of the ship was.
2 trolls in a row ......gtfo you trolls are just idiots....don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out
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Boligrinomine
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Posted - 2010.11.06 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Boligrinomine
Originally by: Lady Spank Polaris Legatus 100/100/100/100
Originally by: Culmen Edited by: Culmen on 05/11/2010 17:28:51 Edited by: Culmen on 05/11/2010 17:25:01 Highest reinforced active tank actually goes to Wyrven Supercarrier I think
[Wyvern, Estemels]
bla bla bla
cry moar please, this is a dumb thread, you didnt even state what the intended role of the ship was.
2 trolls in a row ......gtfo you trolls are just idiots....don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out
you changed what I sad and left it in the quote..... stupid strolls get out of the thread....
If you read through even half of the posts up you would have seen that I did state it was primarily for pve but I am looking for both and if someone has a nice fit either way and fit the other limitations I set I want to see it.
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Lubomir Penev
Sausages of Truth
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Posted - 2010.11.06 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen Edited by: Culmen on 05/11/2010 17:28:51 Edited by: Culmen on 05/11/2010 17:25:01 Highest reinforced active tank actually goes to Wyrven Supercarrier I think
[Wyvern, Estemels]
And this fitting will cost only 175 billion isk (at most), so some people could afford it.
If you put the same kind of fit on a Chimera and triage it doesn't it tanks better?
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