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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.11.04 13:44:00 -
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Hello, I am going to organize weekly mining operations supported by an Orca (I will pilot the Orca).
The ops will be open to everybody interested, you have to subscribe to the "Minnie Miners" mailing list to know the exact time and location, or you can convo me.
HI-SEC ONLY
Miners will be rewarded for each can they fill. As soon as the Orca beams a full can, the miner will be transfered the money (amount varying according to minerals market price, but around 50-60 isk/m3).
HI-SEC ONLY
On top of having somebody hauling, refining and selling the minerals for you, you will get a nice boost (approx. +20% yield) and drones protection vs rats (so you can use mining drones). If pirates or hostile players come in we leg it.
IMPORTANT: all ops will happen between 20:00 and 22:00 EVE time and in Metropolis hi-sec sectors. If you can't play at that time or if you are far from Metropolis you better not sign up.
Sav
P.S. in the case it was not clear .... HI SEC ONLY!
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.11.08 13:20:00 -
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BUMP!
The next mining op will be Tuesday, November 9th at 20:00 EVE time. Miners will be paid 63 isk/m3, hence a full can will be worth 1.732.500 isk, paid as soon as the can is hauled.
To know the exact location sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Sav
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Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2010.11.08 14:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Savoian
BUMP!
The next mining op will be Tuesday, November 9th at 20:00 EVE time. Miners will be paid 63 isk/m3, hence a full can will be worth 1.732.500 isk, paid as soon as the can is hauled.
To know the exact location sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Sav
63 ISK per m3. Am I reading that right? A fully boosted Hulk with a 3% implant will mine ~1850m3 per cycle. So you are offering me 116,550 ISK per cycle? Wow... That is terrible. Hisec ISK/cycle for a boosted Hulk is 325,000 ISK for lowest value ore. You think no one would notice you are only giving people 50% of their ore's value? 
This is a complete scam.
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Originally by: Kali Zero
Warp core stabilizers are like condoms. Nice and safe, but they make it a little less fun for everyone involved.
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rain9441
Big Head Want Dolly
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Posted - 2010.11.08 14:29:00 -
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If you are mining in Metropolis you should consider hopping down to Frerstorn in low sec and mine there with your crew. I got good buy orders up for minerals that aren't being filled.
I need minerals to fuel the faction warfare pilots needs!
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2010.11.08 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Savoian
P.S. in the case it was not clear .... HI SEC ONLY!
Originally by: rain9441
... in low sec and mine there...
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.11.08 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Joe SMASH
Edited by: Joe SMASH on 08/11/2010 14:15:59
Originally by: Savoian
BUMP!
The next mining op will be Tuesday, November 9th at 20:00 EVE time. Miners will be paid 63 isk/m3, hence a full can will be worth 1.732.500 isk, paid as soon as the can is hauled.
To know the exact location sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Sav
63 ISK per m3. Am I reading that right? A fully boosted Hulk with a 3% implant will mine ~1850m3 per cycle. So you are offering me 116,550 ISK per cycle? Wow... That is terrible. Hisec ISK/cycle for a boosted Hulk is 325,000 ISK for lowest value ore. You think no one would notice you are only giving people barely a third of their ore's value?
This is a complete scam.
Before calling people scammer you should imrpove your arithmentics. Go to this site:
http://eve.grismar.net/ore/
it will help you to calculate the value of a m3 of ore. Current mineral prices in Hek are:
Tritanium 2.1
Pyerite 3.6
Mexallon 28
Isogen 60
This means that scordite and veldspar are worth exactly 63 isk/m3, which is what I pay. I earn money only on plagioclase and I lose money on Omber (which is worth 58 isk/m3).
Can you state the mat that you used to get to your numbers?
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.11.08 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Joe SMASH
Edited by: Joe SMASH on 08/11/2010 14:15:59
Originally by: Savoian
BUMP!
The next mining op will be Tuesday, November 9th at 20:00 EVE time. Miners will be paid 63 isk/m3, hence a full can will be worth 1.732.500 isk, paid as soon as the can is hauled.
To know the exact location sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Sav
63 ISK per m3. Am I reading that right? A fully boosted Hulk with a 3% implant will mine ~1850m3 per cycle. So you are offering me 116,550 ISK per cycle? Wow... That is terrible. Hisec ISK/cycle for a boosted Hulk is 325,000 ISK for lowest value ore. You think no one would notice you are only giving people barely a third of their ore's value?
This is a complete scam.
Just to be sure I double checked the prices of ore in Hek:
Veldspar is bought at 58 isk/m3
Scordite is bought at 54,7 isk/m3
Plagioclase is bought at 77 isk/m3
Jow Smash, you clearly got lost somewhere when calculating how many m3 you make per cycle. But no worry, many people manage to be happy even ignoring the basics of math.
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Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2010.11.08 16:32:00 -
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Heh... Yea... you are right. I forgot all my numbers are by 3 since the hulk has 3 strips. I will crawl back in my hole now. 
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Originally by: Kali Zero
Warp core stabilizers are like condoms. Nice and safe, but they make it a little less fun for everyone involved.
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.11.10 13:27:00 -
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BUMP!
The next mining op will be Friday, November 12th at 20:00 EVE time. Miners will be paid 60 isk/m3, hence a full can will be worth 1.650.000 isk, paid as soon as the can is hauled.
To know the exact location sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Sav
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DurFea
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Posted - 2010.11.25 19:46:00 -
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This is an awesome idea!
If I make it up to that neck of the woods I would like to join up sometime!
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Starlight Twilight
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.25 22:48:00 -
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good thing I can pilot a mining rokh
Star Light Star bright, The first star I see tonight, I wish I may, I wish I might,
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.11.30 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: DurFea
This is an awesome idea!
If I make it up to that neck of the woods I would like to join up sometime!
Well, I thought it was a good idea as well, but apparently we are very few to think that. In the first week after this post only 3 people signed up to the mailing list and nobody showed up at the mining ops, hence I decided to cancel the mailing list.
Still, I mine regularly in Minmatar hi sec and I do own an Orca, so if you wish to join me drop me a mail in game.
Sav
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.01 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Dasola on 01/12/2010 09:51:24
Dont give up. This game just teaches people to be suspicius about everything...
If you got 3 people there, thats a start. Keep at it and it will start growing over time. They didint build Rome in day :P
Its same thing if you would be building a corporation, it takes some time...
Most miners probably are all ready in corporations they get those same benefits, so your operations probably attracts those that dont to mining ops regularly otherwise. Or have corporation suport for minign, etc...
I can fly a hulk, was little suspicious about this. so i waited to see if it even takes some air under its wings. After all dont want to take that expensive ship into ambush 
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Dariel Ash
Caldari
Foetus Mart
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Posted - 2010.12.01 11:14:00 -
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Nice Idea, but how do you prevent ne'er-do-wells from joining your fleet and poppin' your buds?
This is actually an interesting way to use your Orca training.
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.01 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dasola
Edited by: Dasola on 01/12/2010 09:51:24
Dont give up. This game just teaches people to be suspicius about everything...
If you got 3 people there, thats a start. Keep at it and it will start growing over time. They didint build Rome in day :P
Mayeb you are right, it just takes some time. On top in the past days I have been contacted by some people interested in joining. Hence I have decided to give it another try:
NEW START!
OPEN MINING OP, FRIDAY DECEMBER 3rd
The Minnie Miners mailing list is open once again. To know the exact time and location sign up there.
Miners will be paid 55 isk/m3 as soon as their can is hauled.
Orca will haul and give a nice boost (about +20%)
Sav
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.01 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dariel Ash
Nice Idea, but how do you prevent ne'er-do-wells from joining your fleet and poppin' your buds?
This is actually an interesting way to use your Orca training.
This is a good warning. I believe that a safe procedure is:
- I invite people in fleet only after they show up in a mining ship and prove they have mining lasers equipped (so I won't invite anybody in a Hurricane or such, just Osprey, Scythe and mining barges/exhumers)
- I will have my PvP alt in fleet, in a T2 cane, just in case somebody decides to have a gun fitted in his Scythe and use it to pop people
If they decide to fight a cane with a mining fitted Scythe, well, we will have fun :-)
Sav
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Max Cetera
Capital Researchs Inc.
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Posted - 2010.12.01 14:28:00 -
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Pretty sure you earn a CONCORDOKKEN for trying to pop a fleet member in high sec.
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Alandra Borgia
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Posted - 2010.12.01 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Savoian
- I invite people in fleet only after they show up in a mining ship and prove they have mining lasers equipped (so I won't invite anybody in a Hurricane or such, just Osprey, Scythe and mining barges/exhumers)
- I will have my PvP alt in fleet, in a T2 cane, just in case somebody decides to have a gun fitted in his Scythe and use it to pop people
If they decide to fight a cane with a mining fitted Scythe, well, we will have fun :-)
Although this is a decent start for security, it will require a fair amount of micromanagement, or someone can sign up, warp off when "no one is looking" and come back in a gank-fit ship for a little out-of-season hulkageddon.
But I do applaud the concept, and wish you all the best with it. Just playing devil's advocate to help tune security as much as possible. 
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.01 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Max Cetera
Pretty sure you earn a CONCORDOKKEN for trying to pop a fleet member in high sec.
No, you can shoot freely fleet members, even in hi sec, and CONCORD won't come.
Now, what I do not know is, what happens if a rogue starts shooting a fleet member and I kick him immediately from the fleet? will he be able to continue shooting without triggering CONCORD?
Sav
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar
United Systems Navy
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.01 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Savoian
Originally by: Max Cetera
Pretty sure you earn a CONCORDOKKEN for trying to pop a fleet member in high sec.
No, you can shoot freely fleet members, even in hi sec, and CONCORD won't come.
You sure about that?
Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you. |
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Tothtelar
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Posted - 2010.12.01 17:32:00 -
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Confirmed. You can shoot Fleetmember. Concord wont Act.
You have to accept this Rule everytime you join a Fleet (i would suggest you read the Popups before accepting!)
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar
United Systems Navy
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.01 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Magnus Orin on 01/12/2010 17:52:31
Originally by: Tothtelar
Confirmed. You can shoot Fleetmember. Concord wont Act.
You have to accept this Rule everytime you join a Fleet (i would suggest you read the Popups before accepting!)
Again, I'm going to have to ask you: Are you sure about this?
Straight from the Evelopedia:
Originally by: Evelopedia
Fleet aggression
If player A and player B are in two corporations that are at war, and both are in the same fleet, they may freely attack each other at any time, as they could when not in the fleet. However, this does NOT allow other players in the fleet to attack either player, unless these players' corps are ALSO at war.
Cargo containers and wrecks are considered valid property just like drones and ships. If you damage a container/wreck, you are initiating aggression on its owner and should be ready for a security hit and Concord intervention. This is also true if you attack a fleet member's cargo container or wreck. Being in a fleet does not allow you to destroy his container/wreck or his ship.
To spell it out even more clearly:
Originally by: Evelopdedia
Basic rundown of actions that will/won't trigger a CONCORD response
This is a list of targets that you can shoot without getting a CONCORD response in high-sec (0.5+ security rating systems).
* Attacking another player that is in your player corporation.
* Attacking the property (wrecks etc) of another player in your player corporation.
* Attacking a war target.
* Attacking a player that is flashy red in your overview (if you are using the default overview settings)
* Attacking a member of the opposing militia if you are part of Factional Warfare
The actions below however WILL trigger a CONCORD response and loss of security status;
* Attacking a fleet member that does not meet the requirements above.
* Attacking the property of a fleet member that does not meet the requirements above (this includes wrecks, deployed containers, anything he/she owns in space)
* Attacking friendly militia members (players in the same militia as you)
* Attacking any neutral player, i.e. not at war with your corporation or alliance, doesn't have aggression against you / isn't flashy red and is not in your player corporation.
* Assisting (f.ex. with remote repairers) an outlaw (a player with -5 security rating or less)
* Assisting (f.ex. with remote repairers) a player who commits a crime which gives him a Global Criminal Cooldown (such as attacking a neutral player).
* Attacking CONCORD ships or sentry guns or any of their assets (including stargates)
* Jumping into a CONCORD controlled system with a security rating that would normally trigger the Faction Navy to attack you. You can see a rundown of the Security Restrictions for Empire Space here security status
Sarcasm - Because i'm too far away to strangle you. |
Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.01 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Orin
You sure about that?
uhm, you have been able to seed a serious doubt.
no, now I can't say that I am sure.
As a matter of fact whenever I shooted fleet members they were also corp mates. Not sure now what happens with non corp mates
Sav
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Halina Wysocki
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Posted - 2010.12.01 18:56:00 -
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Confirming if you agress (shoot / web / scram) a fleet memebr that is NOT in your corp CONCORD will blow you up.
Note to self: make sure the freighter webbing alt is in the same corp as the freighter pilot
Fortunately it was a T1 frig...
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Heloise ChateauBriande
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Posted - 2010.12.01 23:27:00 -
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I will also confirm this. Had a T1 frig tourney in high sec once and a buddy from another corp joined us. Concord killed him right as he started his first bout.
So don't worry about this and good luck with your venture. Seems like a good idea if you can get enough people involved. I would pay them about 20% less than their mins are worth because (as you said) they are getting a +20% bonus for fleeting with you AND they are getting paid instantly and don't have to haul their minerals. My mining rate is reduced by about 20% if I have to haul my own minerals or if I am ninja-mining... so even earning 20% less than the minerals are worth I'd be making about 20% more than I would solo.
Now... how to communicate this to noob miners in such a way that they will understand the benefits of mining with you... I can't help you there.
- Helo
Originally by: Halina Wysocki
Confirming if you agress (shoot / web / scram) a fleet memebr that is NOT in your corp CONCORD will blow you up.
Note to self: make sure the freighter webbing alt is in the same corp as the freighter pilot
Fortunately it was a T1 frig...
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Ch3rryP0ppins
Caldari
Random Selection.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.12.02 01:04:00 -
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sounds like a good target ofor hulkageddon.
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.02 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ch3rryP0ppins
sounds like a good target ofor hulkageddon.
Sounds like operation not running during hulkageddon 
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.02 12:57:00 -
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REMINDER!!!
TOMORROW!!!
MINING OPERATION OPEN TO EVERYBODY
Friday December 3rd at 20:00 EVE time
Join the Minnie Miners mailing list to know where and to get an invite.
Miners will get a +20% boost to their yield, on top of range bonus and hauling services, and they will be paid IMMEDIATELY 55 isk/m3.
Sav
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Schadenfrauder
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Posted - 2010.12.02 14:36:00 -
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yeah, sign me up.
nice to mine with other people
where is this happening?
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Meglamania
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Posted - 2010.12.02 17:43:00 -
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I will give it a shot tomorrow if I can get on
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Miny Luca
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Posted - 2010.12.02 20:36:00 -
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Good luck! :-)
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Daveion Steel
Gallente
6thsense Corp
Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.03 07:59:00 -
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It is an idea I have been toying with for some time, but have always been to busy with RL and corp duties to actually set the thing up.
Have you seen mining buddy? I wonder if this sort of thing could ease your math load, and every member of the fleet using mining buddy would have an exact figure of what they have earnt during the op.
Take care and fly safe 07
D...
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"What's your honest opinion?"
"The one thing I can never be wrong about." |
Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.03 10:13:00 -
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i just checked loot logging in fleets, looks like ccp fixed...
Loot log is now accurate in mining ops down to pilot/oretype/quantity mined during operation. Tested between two separate corps, orca croporate hanger accessable by fleet members, etc...
no more ship-to ship transfer logs, etc.... nasty stuff.
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.03 22:09:00 -
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Oh well, I can't say that the first open mining op was a tremendous success as only one hulk pilot showed up, but still, it happened.
We mined about 2 hours in company which is more fun (and more profitable) than mining solo.
NEXT MINING OP WILL BE TUESDAY DECEMBER 7th at 20:00 EVE TIME
if you wish to join sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list
Sav
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Klaunch
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Posted - 2010.12.03 22:19:00 -
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This sounds like a good idea. If your going to do another op let me know.
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Nilanea
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.04 20:34:00 -
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Hey thanks for taking the time to setup a mining operation like this. I might swing by that area of space and check it out.
Take care and good luck on your next op.
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P3k1
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Posted - 2010.12.04 20:59:00 -
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You have my full support. Currently I'm in a WH, when I get to Hi-sec, I'll give you a buzz. I also have one Orca that is not doing anything, and I can fly it (53.74% mining boost ATM).
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.08 08:50:00 -
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The second open mining op took place yesterday and saw 2 hulks and a retriever joining the fleet. Not a huge fleet I agree, still a step forward. We spent a bit more than a hour mining and then a couple of hours doing lvl4 mining missions.
NEXT OPEN MINING OP WILL BE SUNDAY, DECEMBER 12th, at 20:00 EVE TIME
Sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list if you wish to join.
Sav
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Lemming EVERADIO'FAN
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.08 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Lemming EVERADIO''FAN on 08/12/2010 15:10:20
Gankers now know when:
Originally by: Savoian
NEXT MINING OP WILL BE TUESDAY DECEMBER 7th at 20:00 EVE TIME
if you wish to join sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list
Anyone find this suspiciously close to the latest hulkagedon event thats comming out?
I've heard things that a new event is comming outside of the normal summer season...
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.08 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Savoian on 08/12/2010 20:23:48
Originally by: Lemming EVERADIO'FAN
Edited by: Lemming EVERADIO''FAN on 08/12/2010 15:10:20
Gankers now know when:
Originally by: Savoian
NEXT MINING OP WILL BE TUESDAY DECEMBER 7th at 20:00 EVE TIME
if you wish to join sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list
Anyone find this suspiciously close to the latest hulkagedon event thats comming out?
I've heard things that a new event is comming outside of the normal summer season...
OK, so you do not know when Hulkageddon is.
You are speaking of a mining op which is not going to happen during hulkageddon anyway.
You are speaking of miners who will be free not to mine during Hulkageddon.
You are speaking of people that you do not know and that you did not take even 1 minute of your time to know.
In general, you do not have anything concrete to say.
So, what is the point of your post apart showing your paranoia?
Gee the most annoying part of organizing these mining op is facing people like you, that never make anything, never have any initiative, are never constructive, but still do not miss a chance to criticize, blame, accuse .... (and on top with no supporting information or fact at all)
Sav
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Doc Farouk
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Posted - 2010.12.09 10:41:00 -
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Good Luck on your endeavour SAV. I have offered Orca bonuses (my two hulks mining away as well) to newbies on many occassions in Hisec belts and grav belts I scan out, but to no avail. ZERO takers! Not sure why I bother anumore so do not be disulliosned by the poor response. As long as those 1-3 keep coming back you will slowly grow your op.
Good luck Mate
Doc
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Yakiv Petrov
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.09 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Farouk
I have offered Orca bonuses (my two hulks mining away as well) to newbies on many occassions
ZERO takers!
I see two possible reasons:
- Miners are too paranoid to trust someone offering something for free
- Most Miners actually are bots that don't care about bonuses.
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Commander Shipping
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Posted - 2010.12.09 12:51:00 -
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1.650.000 isk for 27k+ m3 of ore?..
Sounds like a ripoff.
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My Postman
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Posted - 2010.12.09 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Farouk
Good Luck on your endeavour SAV. I have offered Orca bonuses (my two hulks mining away as well) to newbies on many occassions in Hisec belts and grav belts I scan out, but to no avail. ZERO takers! Not sure why I bother anumore so do not be disulliosned by the poor response. As long as those 1-3 keep coming back you will slowly grow your op.
Good luck Mate
Doc
When i was mining in highsec (5-6 months ago) there was a guy offering free orca boost. As there where always 10-15 miners i was the only one accepting (and thanking). They repetetly came looking in the belt i was mining in, to see my hulk go boom. Ofc never happend.
I¦m sure they never heard of the "lofty scam" which is gone since ages but they must be afraid of "something". Asking in local why they don¦t join gives multiple funny/silly/rude answers but nothing "valuable".
As i was on my alt i was very thankful for the boost, and did give iskies as well to the booster. Keep it up, one day you will find someone joining.
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Jaik3
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Posted - 2010.12.09 15:57:00 -
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paranoid miner is paranoid, but he's also on your mailing list
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.13 09:45:00 -
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Yesterday we finally had what can be called a fleet.
The open mining op saw 4 hulks, a covetor and a retriever joining the Orca and mining away for 3 hours. We first took advantage of a mission deadspace pocket full of pyroxeres (nocxium being traded at 400+ isk) and then we stripped a belt in Metropolis 0.5 space.
NEXT OPEN MINING OP will be FRIDAY December 17th at 20:00 EVE time.
To sign up join the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Sav
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zlchristina
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Posted - 2010.12.13 10:27:00 -
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sorry for my noobish query, but how do i join ur eve mailing list in-game?
ur idea intrigues me and i have a few barges that might be interested :)
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.13 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: zlchristina
sorry for my noobish query, but how do i join ur eve mailing list in-game?
ur idea intrigues me and i have a few barges that might be interested :)
In the EVE mail window, at the bottom of the left column there is a "mailing list" button. If you click on that (right or left, I do not remember) then it allows you to join in-game mailing lists. The name of the mailing list you might want to join is "Minnie Miners".
:-)
Sav
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Meg Deminer
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Posted - 2010.12.13 14:45:00 -
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Just resubscribed to EvE again on Sunday. I'd be interested in joining in on the next op provided its not too far from where my Hulk is atm. Will try to remember to subscribe tonight when I log in.
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Jaik7
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Posted - 2010.12.15 00:44:00 -
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I'd like to share the blame for your epik fleet, since i invited my corp.
expect further attendence on friday
(btw, don't spew it on forums about epik pricing. best to keep that sort of thing on the dl )
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Patrice Macmahon
The Lost Minmatar Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.15 10:50:00 -
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Edited by: Patrice Macmahon on 15/12/2010 10:51:13
Blarg! Rocks yummy.
*wrong thread*
Sorry
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tengen san
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Posted - 2010.12.15 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Savoian
Originally by: Magnus Orin
You sure about that?
uhm, you have been able to seed a serious doubt.
no, now I can't say that I am sure.
Sav
Use your fleet UI:
"Kick out fleet member" ist just two clicks away.
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Relinquist Starsplitter
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Posted - 2010.12.17 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Relinquist Starsplitter on 17/12/2010 19:30:43
Originally by: Savoian
Yesterday we finally had what can be called a fleet.
The open mining op saw 4 hulks, a covetor and a retriever joining the Orca and mining away for 3 hours. We first took advantage of a mission deadspace pocket full of pyroxeres (nocxium being traded at 400+ isk) and then we stripped a belt in Metropolis 0.5 space.
NEXT OPEN MINING OP will be FRIDAY December 17th at 20:00 EVE time.
To sign up join the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Sav
My buddy and I intended to do some mining tonight. We are both around three weeks old. Is there a requirement for skill-points, ship fit-out, or anything else that we'd need to know before joining? Tonight is the 17th and 2000 EVE time is what time on the East coast of America? Forgive my naivete. Btw, he's in a miner-osprey and I'm in a retriever? Procurer? One of the two. Dunno..LOL!
I think I just answered my own question. EVE-time is GMT and NY is GMT-5 so 2000 is, in actuality 1500 for me...which is 0200pm...a half an hour ago. Ooops! It looks like I'm late. Sorry for wasting your time. If you're going to be mining later tonight like 2400 EVE time then we'll be able to join you
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Kuranei
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Posted - 2010.12.18 19:05:00 -
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The problem your having Savoian, is the mining profession itself is worthless unless you have a miner/builder. Mining is not a good way to spend your time if you are just selling the minerals. Basically a can is 27500 * 60 is 1,650, 000 isk. But the rate at which a miner fills the can, will slow down there isk making potential depending upon skills. a good hulk pilot orca boosted bringing in lets say 1732m3 a cycle which is 5196 let say every 138 secs 2.3mins. so every 12 mins the pilot makes 1.6 mil isk? and in an hour he makes 8 mil isk plus or minus ? that is alot of time gone for very little isk.
Remember you are competeing with missions and the game is all about making isk. for a noob this might not be a bad idea, but they make more ninja salvaging which takes less time. And for an experienced hulk pilot this is definetly not worth it. So there your delimma. The idea is not bad, its the strictly mining profession that is. There is no isk in being just a miner Contact me Ingame I have a better Idea that might just work though.
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.12.18 19:16:00 -
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Quote:
the game is all about making isk
Go and wash your mouth out, you have been playing with too many boring people :P
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Ecann
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.12.18 19:51:00 -
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A decent person, well organized smooth operation. We'll be happy to join him again on the next mining operation. Anyone who is new to this field of operation should give it a try.
Making millionaires since 2004.
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Myst Shadowheart
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.19 09:05:00 -
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Sounds nice, will join mate.
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2010.12.20 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kuranei
Basically a can is 27500 * 60 is 1,650, 000 isk. But the rate at which a miner fills the can, will slow down there isk making potential depending upon skills. a good hulk pilot orca boosted bringing in lets say 1732m3 a cycle which is 5196 let say every 138 secs 2.3mins.
hm, funny, sitting in my hulk with no fleet boost I've got a cool 1710m3 per minute.  I really hope a "good" Orca pilot can give me more than 20 m3/cycle.
Haven't been mining in a few days (yay trying to get 0% tax for a new NPC corp ) wonder what the new fleet skills will bring to the table...
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Savoian
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Posted - 2010.12.22 20:29:00 -
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The next open mining op will be tomorrow Thursday December 23rd at 20:00 EVE time, and will be the last op of the year.
Once more, to join please sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list.
To answer some of the above questions/points:
- there are no skill or ship requirements. Last time we had a mining fitted Megathron joining, I doubt you can be more weird than that :-)
Still, I pay isk/m3, so if you are not skilled and/or in a non efficient ship, you will just earn less isk
- mining is not terribly lucrative, I agree, still it offers some advantages:
1) while mining you can chat with other people
2) you can activate the strip miner cycle and go afk for up to 10 minutes while the thing works for you
3) rocks rarely shoot back and it's hard to lose your ship
Sav
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Savoian
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:58:00 -
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BUMP
Quick update: the operation of December 23rd has seen 14 pilots joining to strip a pyrox field in a deadspace pocket and then an entire belt in a nearby system.
We then had the first operation of 2011 last week .... with only 2 hulks and 2 retrievers joining.
Next operations will be announced through the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Sav
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Pod Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.13 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Max Cetera
Pretty sure you earn a CONCORDOKKEN for trying to pop a fleet member in high sec.
This only way how you can do something is to be in a corp that is in war or something like that but I am pretty sure you get concorder for shooting fleet members that are not in your corp.
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Tappits
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.01.14 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tappits on 14/01/2011 13:01:32
I like this idea, keep up the good work tbo.
if eve had a few more people like you it would be a much better place than it is now.
I support this service 100%
P.S
Originally by: Pod Amarr
I am pretty sure you get concorder for shooting fleet members that are not in your corp.
You do
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Joe McAlt
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Posted - 2011.01.15 21:59:00 -
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I love the Idea. If I may suggest, contact noob miners in some rookie systems. They are the ones who generally have hauling issues and will jump at the chance not only get the boost but to not have to haul. Create a recruiting alt who can comm on the rookie chat and advertise there. I'm certain you will get alot of turnout from Bantum/dessy pilots and even osprey's. In anycase, local chats or a dedicated channel advertised with cargo containers placed stratigically will gain more attention then the forums will.
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Heimer
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2011.01.16 00:43:00 -
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Further mining productivity from not having to haul? That's worth a fair bit.
Regarding the fleet worries... sure wish people knew the game they were playing better.
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Savoian
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Posted - 2011.01.18 10:19:00 -
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UPDATE ON THE OPEN MINING OPS
A few people met during the past ops and I have moved to a wormhole and we are now happily mining arkonor, bistot and crokite (and losing some ships here and there of course). As a consequence I am not able to organize hi sec mining ops as often as before. WH entrance being random it's hard to predict if I can be able to be in hi sec Minmatar space at a given time in a given day.
Still, I believe that I will be able to organize the next
OPEN MINING OPERATION SUNDAY JANUARY 23 at 20:00 EVE TIME
in hi sec Minmatar space.
To know the exact location sign up in the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Miners will be paid between 55 and 60 isk /m3 depending on ore market prices in the next days.
Sav
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Cade102
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Posted - 2011.01.24 22:57:00 -
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Last op was good. We could do with more people attending.
I can provide the Orca boosts if Savoian is unavailable.
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Savoian
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Posted - 2011.02.23 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Savoian on 23/02/2011 10:45:33
Hulkageddon is almost over, my mates and I are moving out of the wormhole, hence it's time to resume the OPEN MINING OPERATIONS!!
Next one will be next week (after Hulkageddon ends on Feb 27th). To know where, when, why and how join the Minnie Miners mailing list.
Same rules as always: hi sec only, I boost and haul in an Orca (leader skills + Orca boost now gives some +32% yield) , I pay miners xxx isk/m3 as soon as I beam their can in my cargohold. xxx used to be 55 isk/m3, but I might update it as mineral prices have changed a lot in the last month (tritanium especially).
Yes, you got it right, now I can boost your yield by 32%!!! And on top I haul. Keep that in mind before whining about the price I pay for your ore.
Sav
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Darthrin Storm
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Posted - 2011.02.25 05:05:00 -
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Edited by: Darthrin Storm on 25/02/2011 05:05:33
Love what you're doing. I may see if I can't start it up in amarr space since it seems to be going well for you. One comment as far as security goes. When you pick up someones can you give there whole corp the ability to shoot you in highsec. I assume you don't pick up with your orca but simply tractor it to you have your hualer pick it up so your hauler is the only one in the fleet at risk?
-edit- Sorry im a horrible speller
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Julien Brellier
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Posted - 2011.02.25 10:25:00 -
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When in Fleet, cans do not aggro other corp members when pulled by the Orca.
That solves your question
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.09 17:06:00 -
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Locking as the OP has created a new thread to clear confusion. In the future please request that the thread be closed instead of creating a duplicate thread.
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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