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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.05 06:16:00 -
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and G. W. Bush killed it!
Discuss....
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ceaon
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Posted - 2010.11.05 06:24:00 -
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related
 Originally by: CCP Adida
The male thread was locked because the discussion turned into transsexuals and man boobs.
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.11.05 09:03:00 -
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It has been re-imagined as a Glorious Aristocracy, ruled by the Lord Almighty God's own Theocracy. Now hold still, while we apply your identification symbol to your forehead..
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.11.05 11:28:00 -
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I thought Woodrow Wilson killed it.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
BAT PHONE
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Posted - 2010.11.05 11:32:00 -
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It is called the "American dream", because you have to be asleep to believe in it.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.05 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 05/11/2010 11:36:29
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
It is called the "American dream", because you have to be asleep to believe in it.
Carlin had it right.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
BAT PHONE
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Posted - 2010.11.05 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 05/11/2010 11:36:29
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
It is called the "American dream", because you have to be asleep to believe in it.
Carlin had it right.
Indeed.
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RiskyFrisky
Under the Table Inc.
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Posted - 2010.11.05 12:41:00 -
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Nah, Lady Spank pew pewed and ganked the American Dream when it refused to join her corp. Then she podded it and unfortunately, it had forgotten to make a second clone and as with this, no longer exists.
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Master Gotama
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Posted - 2010.11.05 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zendoren
and G. W. Bush killed it!
Discuss....
i don't understand. i live in america and am getting fat and happy. what's the big deal?
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Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.11.05 15:33:00 -
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William Jefferson Clinton killed it.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2010.11.05 15:42:00 -
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If anyone can kill it for you, you never had it.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.11.05 15:52:00 -
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as far as who killed what in where, best way to see who the culprit is, it's to look at a mirror.
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.05 15:59:00 -
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Snooki killed it.
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.11.05 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 05/11/2010 16:04:37
The Chinese Dream is where it's at:-
Nothing can stop China's rise to pick up the advance of global civilization after the collapse of the Roman Empire.
Ah wrong century... 
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.05 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: Zendoren on 05/11/2010 17:28:51
Originally by: Master Gotama
Originally by: Zendoren
and G. W. Bush killed it!
Discuss....
i don't understand. i live in america and am getting fat and happy. what's the big deal?
Do you still or have you ever live(ed) in your own home?
@Vogue: Nail on the head..... Thanks for all the loans China. Guess who singed the promissory note, G.W. Bush and his war!
Discuss further.....
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Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.11.05 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Zendoren
Edited by: Zendoren on 05/11/2010 17:28:51
Originally by: Master Gotama
Originally by: Zendoren
and G. W. Bush killed it!
Discuss....
i don't understand. i live in america and am getting fat and happy. what's the big deal?
Do you still or have you ever live(ed) in your own home?
@Vogue: Nail on the head..... Thanks for all the loans China. Guess who singed the promissory note, G.W. Bush and his war!
Discuss further.....
G. W. was able to create situation where car bombs go off in Baghdad and a few other places very very far away from America.
I guess you are one of those people who wants car bombs to go off in New York.
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Master Gotama
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Posted - 2010.11.05 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zendoren
Do you still or have you ever live(ed) in your own home?
yes, yes, i currently own two homes and a ranch. that being said, i carry very little debt. i think the key to the american dream is not to live beyond your means. easy accesss to credit =/= happiness.
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2010.11.05 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue
Edited by: Vogue on 05/11/2010 16:04:37
The Chinese Dream is where it's at:-
Nothing can stop China's rise to pick up the advance of global civilization after the collapse of the Roman Empire.
Ah wrong century...
The USA tends to be a bit arrogant and deluded about their status in the world. You often hear American politicians attributing their superpower status to their political system and their 'can do' spirit.
The truth is that the USA became a superpower because they were the only industrial powerhouse that didn't go up in flames in the two world wars. While the rest of the world was levelled, (with China, the traditional superpower for millennia, being repeatedly levelled) the USA came out of the wars revitalised and stronger than ever.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2010.11.05 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
as far as who killed what in where, best way to see who the culprit is, it's to look at a mirror.
This.
This didn't help much either..
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William Jefferson Clinton killed it.
Just draw the lines from the China Trade Act.. Walmart's growth, China's economic growth and increased manufacturing/jobs to support increased demand on their exporting, less jobs in states via smaller business closer (thank you walmart) and desire for US produced goods (thank you walmart for importing mass products from china), less people to spend money on stuffs, collapse of internet companies/stocks.. all started when Sir Sticky Cigar put his name to paper that day. I don't blame China.. they did whats best for them. And it has obviously paid off very, very, very well for them since that moment in time.
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2010.11.05 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Umega
Originally by: Grimpak
as far as who killed what in where, best way to see who the culprit is, it's to look at a mirror.
This.
This didn't help much either..
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William Jefferson Clinton killed it.
Just draw the lines from the China Trade Act.. Walmart's growth, China's economic growth and increased manufacturing/jobs to support increased demand on their exporting, less jobs in states via smaller business closer (thank you walmart) and desire for US produced goods (thank you walmart for importing mass products from china), less people to spend money on stuffs, collapse of internet companies/stocks.. all started when Sir Sticky Cigar put his name to paper that day. I don't blame China.. they did whats best for them. And it has obviously paid off very, very, very well for them since that moment in time.
I think you are nitpicking here. The truth is that when China acts as a cohesive political state, they are the natural superpower. Trade acts, Walmart, whatever aren't going to cause or stop that. the 20th C wars gave the USA an artificial boost, and destroyed China. China has managed to get back on it's knees now. God help the western world if they manage to get up on their feet and running with their current political system.
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.05 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Zendoren on 05/11/2010 21:08:01
Originally by: dr doooo
I think you are nitpicking here. The truth is that when China acts as a cohesive political state, they are the natural superpower. Trade acts, Walmart, whatever aren't going to cause or stop that. the 20th C wars gave the USA an artificial boost, and destroyed China. China has managed to get back on it's knees now. God help the western world if they manage to get up on their feet and running with their current political system.
Time has shown that Communism (in its purest form) can not work and that you must have some sort of capitalistic system to provide support. (please see this here and here) With that said, if the Chinese switch to such a system (like the Cubans are doing) wouldn't this just be a form of government thats similar to the west's welfare state (see UK and US) but skews more towards government dependence.
Originally by: dr doooo
The truth is that the USA became a superpower because they were the only industrial powerhouse that didn't go up in flames in the two world wars. While the rest of the world was levelled, (with China, the traditional superpower for millennia, being repeatedly levelled) the USA came out of the wars revitalised and stronger than ever.
I agree, this is supported by the issuance of many many loans and bonds that the EU had to pay back after the war so that everything can be rebuilt! I mean lets face it, after a certain someone had his hissy fit and started leveling the country side someone had to clean up the mess! =P
Originally by: Master Gotama
yes, yes, i currently own two homes and a ranch. that being said, i carry very little debt. i think the key to the american dream is not to live beyond your means. easy accesss to credit =/= happiness.
I'm happy that the system is and/or was working for you!
Originally by: Umega
Just draw the lines from the China Trade Act.. Walmart's growth, China's economic growth and increased manufacturing/jobs to support increased demand on their exporting, less jobs in states via smaller business closer (thank you walmart) and desire for US produced goods (thank you walmart for importing mass products from china), less people to spend money on stuffs, collapse of internet companies/stocks.. all started when Sir Sticky Cigar put his name to paper that day. I don't blame China.. they did whats best for them. And it has obviously paid off very, very, very well for them since that moment in time.
I agree with this for the most part, couple this with G.W. Bush's deregulation of the housing sector and you will have yourself a nice little economic pickle! However, dr doooo makes a good point. This is but a single situation and does not explain the whole thing!
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.11.05 21:12:00 -
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Well Germany and Japan had their entire industrial capacity wiped out after WW2. But both of them rebuilt into still the world's second and third largest industrial exporters in the world with brand new machinery. They had their national identities smashed to pieces. So they started anew without the mental baggage of their imperial pasts.
Whereas Britain won in WW2 but was loosing its empire and was bankrupt. And we mentally still carried on with our imperial baggage which I feel held us back until about 30 years ago.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
Angry Dogs
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Posted - 2010.11.05 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
I think you are nitpicking here. The truth is that when China acts as a cohesive political state, they are the natural superpower. Trade acts, Walmart, whatever aren't going to cause or stop that. the 20th C wars gave the USA an artificial boost, and destroyed China. China has managed to get back on it's knees now. God help the western world if they manage to get up on their feet and running with their current political system.
China is doing what we in Britain did with the industrial revolution. Not to put the fear of god into everyone but, our little island ended up building the largest empire the world has ever known so just think of what a nation with well over a billion people can do
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.11.05 21:20:00 -
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There is one thing I hope the rise of China, India, Brazil and others make happen. A paradigm shift that most of the world's population can't have the same wasteful consumer behaviour as the 600 million of so white people on this planet.
The end of consumerism.
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.11.05 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue
There is one thing I hope the rise of China, India, Brazil and others make happen. A paradigm shift that most of the world's population can't have the same wasteful consumer behaviour as the 600 million of so white people on this planet.
The end of consumerism.
Sorry, consumerism is not going anywhere! all you can hope for is for it to become more efficient! And It will! Less the companies have to put into their products for them to sell the more money they pocket! IE Less waist = more money
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Caleidascope
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.11.05 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue
There is one thing I hope the rise of China, India, Brazil and others make happen. A paradigm shift that most of the world's population can't have the same wasteful consumer behaviour as the 600 million of so white people on this planet.
The end of consumerism.
You are clueless.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.05 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue
There is one thing I hope the rise of China, India, Brazil and others make happen. A paradigm shift that most of the world's population can't have the same wasteful consumer behaviour as the 600 million of so white people on this planet.
The end of consumerism.
While you sit there typing away on your computer, TV or stero going in the background, snacks and a drink at your side on the desk there. Right?
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.11.05 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 05/11/2010 22:35:46
Yes I see what you are getting at. I am a smart arse with no social life. And this is true as I don't have much of a RL social life to speak of. And I am also drunk at this present time.
But I do think what I say on forums has merit. Though of course throwing text at someone else on the internet is not as good as an argument in a pub.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.11.05 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zendoren
and G. W. Bush killed it!
Discuss....
The dream is what you make of it, so long as government stays out of your way.
Freedom and libery are elemental wants. Government, in the American expriment, is supposed to stay out of the way, in order to provide the oppertunity for the pursuit of happiness. That is, a life affording scope, in the classical greek meaning.
Each decision government makes for you or your neighbor, however small or hidden, is an affront to liberty, freedom and the pursuit of happiness.
If the dream has been killed, it's been dying a slow death since the 1820s.
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.11.05 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: Vogue on 05/11/2010 22:57:51
Between 1820 and the late 1960's slavery and to the extent of it's legacy was quite alive. So the assumption that USA suffers from a linear decline that is more typical of European nations is false. For USA's strength is not that it is more enlightened than other nations but rather in it's ability to repair it's faults. Like Rocky that can bounce back from the ropes and come back stronger
But in 2010 USA this strength is weakened by the miasma of saturated media bull**** and a bit of an identity crisis. Bill Clinton recognises this and has said 'USA needs to get back into the change business'.
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