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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
2396
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Posted - 2016.04.22 07:54:02 -
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Fin Udan wrote:Like practically everybody else who responds to my posts you have insufficient intelligence to get the point. Personal insult is against rule number 4, Personal attacks are prohibited.
Fin Udan wrote:Is it permissable to publish unredacted chat logs on an external site and then circumvent forum posting rules by posting a link to that external site in this forum ? Yes, that is permissible. As you say CCP cannot regulate or control the internet. Besides, posting chat logs is an accepted practice and done on almost every Eve news site or private blog and is out of the control of CCP. I am sure there is some discretion there and if the ISD's decide you are only doing it to troll or inflame other posters they might step in, but in general, CCP cannot control what players say and post outside the game and their forums.
They do have control over this forum however which runs on CCP hardware and is managed by CCP employees. They have decided that posting chat logs is verboten, as is by the way personal attacks, trolling, and discussing moderation, all of which you are engaging in here.
Fin Udan wrote:The fact is the minerbumping.com link SHOULD be removed. Hopefully CCP will eventually realise just how blatently and cynically James bullyboy 315 is deliberately circumventing forum rules by indirectly posting his despicable website content to this forum. Why should the link be removed? Because the New Order blew up your empty shuttle last month, just before you start with your off-topic ranting?
Eve is suppose to have conflict and villains. CCP as advertised the game as "be the villain", and again underscored it in the Citadel Expansion trailer which has the tagline "Build Your Dreams; Wreck Their Dreams". If some players behave badly when they lose a mining ship to one of these villains, someone should shine a light on it. Much of the bad behaviour featured on minerbumping is despicable, not to mention EULA-breaking, and has no place in civilized society. It is not "bullying" to hold people accountable for their terrible behaviour towards another human being.
This is, of course, completely off-topic. I am not even sure why I am bothering to engage with you as this post will be expunged, along with all your previous rule-breaking posts as before. If you don't like something or think someone is misbehaving on these forums, use the proper channels and either flag it to the ISD and explain why you think something is wrong, or use the convenient "block" button and you will never be bothered by something you don't like ever again. Acting like a petulant child by stamping your feet and yelling because you didn't get your way is not only unbecoming, it makes you look foolish, and is against the rules.
Why Do They Gank?
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.22 08:08:02 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Fin Udan wrote:Like practically everybody else who responds to my posts you have insufficient intelligence to get the point. Personal insult is against rule number 4, Personal attacks are prohibited. Fin Udan wrote:Is it permissable to publish unredacted chat logs on an external site and then circumvent forum posting rules by posting a link to that external site in this forum ? Yes, that is permissible. As you say CCP cannot regulate or control the internet. Besides, posting chat logs is an accepted practice and done on almost every Eve news site or private blog and is out of the control of CCP. I am sure there is some discretion there and if the ISD's decide you are only doing it to troll or inflame other posters they might step in, but in general, CCP cannot control what players say and post outside the game and their forums. They do have control over this forum however which runs on CCP hardware and is managed by CCP employees. They have decided that posting chat logs is verboten, as is by the way personal attacks, trolling, and discussing moderation, all of which you are engaging in here. Fin Udan wrote:The fact is the minerbumping.com link SHOULD be removed. Hopefully CCP will eventually realise just how blatently and cynically James bullyboy 315 is deliberately circumventing forum rules by indirectly posting his despicable website content to this forum. Why should the link be removed? Because the New Order blew up your empty shuttle last month, just before you start with your off-topic ranting? Eve is suppose to have conflict and villains. CCP as advertised the game as "be the villain", and again underscored it in the Citadel Expansion trailer which has the tagline "Build Your Dreams; Wreck Their Dreams". If some players behave badly when they lose a mining ship to one of these villains, someone should shine a light on it. Much of the bad behaviour featured on minerbumping is despicable, not to mention EULA-breaking, and has no place in civilized society. It is not "bullying" to hold people accountable for their terrible behaviour towards another human being. This is, of course, completely off-topic. I am not even sure why I am bothering to engage with you as this post will be expunged, along with all your previous rule-breaking posts as before. If you don't like something or think someone is misbehaving on these forums, use the proper channels and either flag it to the ISD and explain why you think something is wrong, or use the convenient "block" button and you will never be bothered by something you don't like ever again. Acting like a petulant child by stamping your feet and yelling because you didn't get your way is not only unbecoming, it makes you look foolish, and is against the rules.
bibble babble
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
2396
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Posted - 2016.04.22 09:28:35 -
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Fin Udan wrote:bibble babble Wow, you are babbling like a toddler now. Why should anyone take you seriously if you cannot put forth a coherent argument on why the world should cater to your whims?
Answer: they won't. You are just another butt-hurt Eve player resorting to meta-gaming attempts on the forum to try to hurt your in-game opponents. You are definitely not the first to take to the forums after an in-game loss, and you won't be the last.
Cry and debase yourself as much as you like. It isn't going to do anything other than make work for the poor ISDs who have to clean up your mess, much like a parent has to do for their toddler.
Why Do They Gank?
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.22 10:00:33 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Fin Udan wrote:bibble babble Wow, you are babbling like a toddler now. Why should anyone take you seriously if you cannot put forth a coherent argument on why the world should cater to your whims? Answer: they won't. You are just another butt-hurt Eve player resorting to meta-gaming attempts on the forum to try to hurt your in-game opponents. You are definitely not the first to take to the forums after an in-game loss, and you won't be the last. Cry and debase yourself as much as you like. It isn't going to do anything other than make work for the poor ISDs who have to clean up your mess, much like a parent has to do for their toddler.
bibble babble
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
242
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Posted - 2016.04.22 11:58:46 -
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Removed a bunch of off topic post and those quoting them. Reopened
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to Evemails.
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.22 13:32:43 -
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This is a quote from the Original Post of this thread :-
" #1 - 2012-08-06 20:05:56 UTC | Edited by: James 315 17 *** SPECIAL UPDATE*** We now have our very own blog at MinerBumping.com so we're officially a proper EVE business. Cool*** END SPECIAL UPDATE ***"
The inference from this statement is that the MinerBumping.com website is an integral part of this "business"
I think it therefore follows that any post discussing the MinerBumping.com website is 'on topic'
I have read the Minerbumping.com website very carefully and I have failed to find any 'business activity'
What I did find is that it appears that the chief activity of the MinerBumping.com website is to publish unredacted chat logs that would be prohibited if directly published in this forum.
I provide this information purely as a statement of fact.
This post is 'on topic'.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
2398
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Posted - 2016.04.22 14:53:02 -
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Fin Udan wrote:I have read the Minerbumping.com website very carefully and I have failed to find any 'business activity'
What I did find is that it appears that the chief activity of the MinerBumping.com website is to publish unredacted chat logs that would be prohibited if directly published in this forum.
I provide this information purely as a statement of fact.
This post is 'on topic'. You didn't read very carefully then. Not only is there a tab entitled 'Shareholders' at the top of every page, something that screams "business activity", James 315 spells it out directly in the preamble to the Code. Since there is never a bad time to quote the Code, I will cite the relevant passage:
minerbumping.com wrote:THE NEW HALAIMA CODE OF CONDUCT
Although profit is a primary motive of my new business, I strongly believe that corporations should also seek to make a positive contribution to the community. I would like to think that I "do well by doing good." I realize that there is already a EULA in place that governs player conduct, but in my encounters with highsec miners, I often find myself wishing that the miners were of a higher caliber. In my view, many of these miners could become higher quality EVE players (and generally, better people) if they were simply held to a higher standard. The New Halaima Code of Conduct provides that standard.
Further, there are even links there to detailed business reports posted on these forums like this one and many others on the 'Links' page. And if you need further proof, all this New Order talk reminds me that I haven't purchased any shares in several months: Saviour, put me down for another 315 shares - ISK sent.
There, a business transaction in front of your very eyes.
Why Do They Gank?
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.22 16:01:56 -
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I quote from the previous post :-
"Saviour, put me down for another 315 shares - ISK sent. "
I would like some guidance from ISDs regarding the boundaries in discussing in game religions
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Thermal Damage
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
195
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Posted - 2016.04.22 16:08:21 -
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Fin Udan wrote:I quote from the previous post :-
"Saviour, put me down for another 315 shares - ISK sent. "
I would like some guidance from ISDs regarding the boundaries in discussing in game religions
There are no ingame religions.
I was found guilty of Nitshe by the CoCaP
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lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
1099
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Posted - 2016.04.22 16:18:26 -
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Thermal Damage wrote:Fin Udan wrote:I quote from the previous post :-
"Saviour, put me down for another 315 shares - ISK sent. "
I would like some guidance from ISDs regarding the boundaries in discussing in game religions There are no ingame religions.
I don't know about you but I am part of a cult.
Spaceprincess
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Dom Arkaral
Axios
307
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Posted - 2016.04.22 16:43:13 -
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Sad Fin,
Buy shares or gtfo with your rants... You don't seem to learn that this isn't a "grr CODE." thread but an opportunity to support the NUMBER 1 content creators in Highsec.
No one forces you to post here but you come back time after time, even when ISDs clean up your mess.
So yes, I will be reporting your posts for ranting, as it is the only thing I see in them.
Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester. #b4r
Gù+Montreal EVE Meet Organiser
Gù+Come talk in the ingame chan "EVE Montreal" for more info or just to chill!
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Thermal Damage
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
196
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Posted - 2016.04.22 16:51:48 -
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lanyaie wrote:Thermal Damage wrote:Fin Udan wrote:I quote from the previous post :-
"Saviour, put me down for another 315 shares - ISK sent. "
I would like some guidance from ISDs regarding the boundaries in discussing in game religions There are no ingame religions. I don't know about you but I am part of a cult.
Reported
I was found guilty of Nitshe by the CoCaP
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.22 17:08:28 -
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Thermal Damage wrote:lanyaie wrote:Thermal Damage wrote:Fin Udan wrote:I quote from the previous post :-
"Saviour, put me down for another 315 shares - ISK sent. "
I would like some guidance from ISDs regarding the boundaries in discussing in game religions There are no ingame religions. I don't know about you but I am part of a cult. Reported
Hmm what exactly did you report?
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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED CODE.
3515
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Posted - 2016.04.22 17:20:27 -
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Great news! A lot of new shareholders joined up this week. Now we're over 1 trillion 20 billion isk!
OP UPDATED TO REFLECT ADDITIONAL PURCHASES
MinerBumping.com
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ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1168
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Posted - 2016.04.22 17:33:38 -
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Quote:13. Spamming is prohibited.
Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to insert other game nameGÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post, or the practice of GÇ£thread necromancyGÇ¥ which involved bumping of old threads for no justifiable reason.
I have removed some posts and those quoting them for repetitively discussing the same subject. Continued spam will be referred to CCP for account action.
ISD Fractal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.22 17:34:18 -
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James 315 wrote:Great news! A lot of new shareholders joined up this week. Now we're over 1 trillion 20 billion isk! OP UPDATED TO REFLECT ADDITIONAL PURCHASES
How is the posting of unredacted chat logs going on your website? :)
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11775
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Posted - 2016.04.22 18:05:03 -
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Fin Udan wrote:James 315 wrote:Great news! A lot of new shareholders joined up this week. Now we're over 1 trillion 20 billion isk! OP UPDATED TO REFLECT ADDITIONAL PURCHASES How is the posting of unredacted chat logs going on your website? :)
Probably fine, as CCP has no control over a private website.
Get your head out of your arse, shape up and stop posting **** - you're continuing to break the forum rules by endlessly trolling this and other threads. Just stop. Now.
Don't like CODE.? Well, that's apparent. But you're really not helping your cause by making yourself look like a rabid dog barking weirdly at a cardboard cutout.
e:
ISD Fractal wrote:Continued spam will be referred to CCP for account action.
It's clear that I'm not the only one to have noticed your asshattery. Continue, and I wouldn't be surprised if Fun Fin goes on an involuntary holiday.
OT: Congratulations James and the whole of Minerbumping!
I have only recently purchased my permit, but I already feel a part of something greater. The Minerbumping channel is also a great place to lurk! :)
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.22 18:44:43 -
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The moderation of this forum is beginning to constitute a disgrace that reflects very badly on CCP
It would appear that this thread cannot under any circumstances be critcised.
This thread has alway been a complete fake IPO launched by somebody who has spent the last few years manipulating CCP
It is quite obvious that the ISDs moderarating this thread are acting under instructions to redact any and all criticisms of James 315
It appears to me that James 315 is now largely running CCP
Because you criticise James 315 at you peril in this forum
Anyway I have a personal message to James 315 here
You are a bully I hate bullies
And I will oppose you in Eve so long as I have breath in my body
remember Jame 315 that you will always be a bully and you will die a bully
as for ISDs you are worthless individuals who wouldn't recognise integrity if it jump up and smacked you in the face
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.22 18:58:32 -
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ISD Fractal wrote:Quote:13. Spamming is prohibited.
Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to insert other game nameGÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post, or the practice of GÇ£thread necromancyGÇ¥ which involved bumping of old threads for no justifiable reason. I have removed some posts and those quoting them for repetitively discussing the same subject. Continued spam will be referred to CCP for account action.
F*ck You
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.22 18:59:56 -
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Fin Udan wrote:ISD Fractal wrote:Quote:13. Spamming is prohibited.
Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to insert other game nameGÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post, or the practice of GÇ£thread necromancyGÇ¥ which involved bumping of old threads for no justifiable reason. I have removed some posts and those quoting them for repetitively discussing the same subject. Continued spam will be referred to CCP for account action. F*ck You
How much does James 315 pay you?
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ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
245
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Posted - 2016.04.22 19:08:38 -
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Quote: 31. Abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers is prohibited.
CCP operate a zero tolerance policy on abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers. This includes but is not limited to personal attacks, trolling, GÇ£outingGÇ¥ of CCP employee or ISD volunteer player identities, and the use of any former player identities when referring to the aforementioned parties.
Our forums are designed to be a place where players and developers can exchange ideas in a polite and friendly manner for the betterment of EVE Online. Players who attack or abuse employees of CCP, or ISD volunteers, will be permanently banned from the EVE Online forums across all their accounts with no recourse, and may also be subject to action against their game accounts.
I removed some post for the above reason and also a off topic post.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to Evemails.
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Senator BobDoLe
EAT ATTiC
4
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Posted - 2016.04.22 19:38:58 -
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We have purchased 1,315 shares.
Fin Udan - your cheerful bumps inspired this investment.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11780
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Posted - 2016.04.22 20:29:44 -
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ISDs, couldn't you have just edited my post removing Fun Fin's quote, rather than merely wiping it wholesale from the thread? I had an OT comment in there...Thanks for that!
Anyway - as I said in my now deleted post - it has been just a few short days since I bought my permit to show my support for the New Halaima Code, and boy am I glad I did! Nothing shows your anathema of bot-aspirancy and environmental degradation better than this brilliantly shining badge shooting forth from your biography!
Don't be like Fun Fin Udan - get your permit - support emergent gameplay - protect high security space!
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.23 04:18:35 -
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The MinerBumping.com website publishes unredacted chat logs.
This is a statement of fact.
Thank you.
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.23 04:20:27 -
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Bumblefck wrote:ISDs, couldn't you have just edited my post removing Fun Fin's quote, rather than merely wiping it wholesale from the thread? I had an OT comment in there...Thanks for that! Anyway - as I said in my now deleted post - it has been just a few short days since I bought my permit to show my support for the New Halaima Code, and boy am I glad I did! Nothing shows your anathema of bot-aspirancy and environmental degradation better than this brilliantly shining badge shooting forth from your biography! Don't be like Fun Fin Udan - get your permit - support emergent gameplay - protect high security space!
By referring to me as Fun Fin you are attempting to bully me
I have reported this post
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.23 06:23:16 -
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Hi there James 315 :)
I have seen the error of my ways and I've decided to become a supporter
I apologise for all of my previous posts
I would like to purchase a share please. I have sent you one million isk
regards Fin Udan
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11784
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Posted - 2016.04.23 09:57:50 -
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Fin Udan wrote:The MinerBumping.com website publishes unredacted chat logs.
This is a statement of fact.
Thank you.
Yes, and? Their website is privately owned and run, and they chose to publish chatlogs in their entirety...whereas CCP chooses not to allow that at all. I'm still not sure why you're still running around shouting this, as it's common knowledge to all and not disputed in any way.
Quote:By referring to me as Fun Fin you are attempting to bully me
I have reported this post
By referring to you as 'Fun Fin', I am actually pointing out - sarcastically - that you are categorically trying (and failing) to spoil the fun of emergent gameplay in EVE that is well within the EULA.
Also, I don't think you really have a leg to stand on when you tell ISDs and CCP employees to '**** off' (I'm not going to link the EVE Search page but it's there for all to see, if you care)
Quote:Hi there James 315 :)
I have seen the error of my ways and I've decided to become a supporter
I apologise for all of my previous posts
I would like to purchase a share please. I have sent you one million isk
regards Fin Udan
Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
Just give it up and take your saltiness elsewhere, Fun Fin. We didn't see people polluting your investment threads to any degree like you're doing here, so why in fact are you continuing to troll?
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Fin Udan
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2016.04.23 10:53:53 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Fin Udan wrote:The MinerBumping.com website publishes unredacted chat logs.
This is a statement of fact.
Thank you. Yes, and? Their website is privately owned and run, and they chose to publish chatlogs in their entirety...whereas CCP chooses not to allow that at all. I'm still not sure why you're still running around shouting this, as it's common knowledge to all and not disputed in any way. Quote:By referring to me as Fun Fin you are attempting to bully me
I have reported this post By referring to you as 'Fun Fin', I am actually pointing out - sarcastically - that you are categorically trying (and failing) to spoil the fun of emergent gameplay in EVE that is well within the EULA. Also, I don't think you really have a leg to stand on when you tell ISDs and CCP employees to '**** off' (I'm not going to link the EVE Search page but it's there for all to see, if you care) Quote:Hi there James 315 :)
I have seen the error of my ways and I've decided to become a supporter
I apologise for all of my previous posts
I would like to purchase a share please. I have sent you one million isk
regards Fin Udan Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Just give it up and take your saltiness elsewhere, Fun Fin. We didn't see people polluting your investment threads to any degree like you're doing here, so why in fact are you continuing to troll?
I have now seen the error of my ways and I have apologised to James 315. I would thank you to stop harassing me :)
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
11784
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Posted - 2016.04.23 11:04:00 -
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Commenting on your persistent trolling is not 'harassing you', by the way. Have you also apologised to the ISD you swore at?
I just got some abuse in local for having a permit, Minerbumping - I guess the badge is a good one to carry
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
7066
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Posted - 2016.04.23 16:44:15 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Commenting on your persistent trolling is not 'harassing you', by the way. Have you also apologised to the ISD you swore at, or for that matter have you apologised to the other players (me included) who you have insulted while trolling this thread? I just got some abuse in local for having a permit, Minerbumping - I guess the badge is a good one to carry
My mail box is empty.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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